In this post, Rebecca Radding explains why she was asked to leave at the end of her third year as a Teach for America teacher in a KIPP school in Néw Orleans.
She could not teach like a champion.
She writes:
“I was never much of a champion, to be honest. KIPP defines a successful teacher as someone who keeps children quiet, teaches children how to answer each question on a test composed of arbitrary questions, and then produces high scores on this test. Mind you, I was teaching Pre-K and then kindergarten at a KIPP school in New Orleans—and these were still the metrics by which I was being evaluated. Since my definition of a successful early childhood classroom looked very different from silence and test prep, I had to figure out how to survive. I lasted three years.”
“By year three it had become very, very difficult for me to hide my disdain for the way the school was managed. In the previous two years, I’d fought hard for the adoption of a play-based early childhood curriculum, only to see it systematically dismantled by our 25-year old assistant principal. When this administrator told us that our student test scores would be higher if we used direct instruction, worksheets and exit tickets to check for their understanding, I lost my shit. I’m sorry, but five year olds don’t learn that way.
“I was fired a week later. Well, to be fair, I was told that I *wasn’t a good fit*—most likely because I talked about things like poverty and trauma and brain development, and also because at that point I knew significantly more about early childhood education and what young children actually needed to grow and develop than the administrators who ran the school. And that made me a threat.”
She goes on to explain what it means to “teach like a champion” and why she found it increasingly impossible to comply.

She says, “I’ve discovered that it’s actually very easy to be strict when you deeply believe that what you’re requiring kids to do is for their own good and for the good of the community.”
It is the difference between educating from a place of love & respect and treating them as an animal that must be broken.
BTW: Sir Ken Robinson mentioned KIPP favorably in a speech. Anyone know what is up with that?
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I can only imagine that it was pre- understanding… I have read both his books at this point, and no where does it sound like he would support the KIPP model, if so, I would have to re-evaluate my admiration of him and his work…
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TEACH LIKE A CHAMPION is a book written by a guy who runs some charter schools on the East Coast. I heard him on an interview, and it sounds like the book contains teaching strategies that will save education if incompetent public school teachers will just take the time to apply them. Of course, it also sounded like these strategies are things I learned as far back as my ed classes 25 years ago, and that, by the way, most of my public school colleagues use most of the time as highly trained, competent paid professional educators. But, that’s probably where the “teach like a champion” thing comes from.
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His videos are easily available online. Here’s one for starters: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EC0ltKOwF_A
Watch that thing and decide if you’d want your child to have a teacher like that. I’m not sure I’d want my dog to have a trainer like that.
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We need more teachers like you! Bravo!!!
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Unfortunately, far too often this is what “education reform” is really all about.
Not at an outlier, but at one of the very biggest players in the charterite/privatization movement. And one that often serves as a model of success.
Read also these two posts by Gary Rubinstein about his visit to a KIPP school in NYC:
Link: http://garyrubinstein.teachforus.org/2012/11/14/my-visit-to-kipp/
Link: http://garyrubinstein.teachforus.org/2013/04/10/teacher-quality-at-kipp/
Obedience school is for dogs; school should be for children. It was in Sarah Carr’s HOPE AGAINST HOPE (2013, p. 97), that I came across a KIPP student’s definition of the Knowledge Is Power Program: “Kids In Prison Program.”
Put simply, what is so very twenty first century about the old idea of treating young children like small adults to be whipped into shape?
Self-styled “education reform” only make sense if you skip the inconvenient 19th and 20th centuries with their “failed” experiments in faddish teaching and learning like, for instance, what continues to be practiced at the schools the children of the leading charterites/privatizers send THEIR OWN CHILDREN to—
Harpeth Hall, Cranbrook, Sidwell Friends, U of Chicago Lab Schools, Delbarton School, Lakeside School, Harvard-Westlake and the rest.
Oops! Forgot… cage busting achievement gap crushing “innovation” is only for the Centres of EduExcellence reserved for OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN—
My bad.
Actually, THEIR bad.
Rheeally!
And really!
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And yet growing numbers obfuscated families send their kids to Kipp schools. Why do you think they do this despite ongoing critism from many who post here?
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“And yet growing numbers obfuscated families . . . ”
Do you mean “numbers of frustrated families”?
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Parents believe the hype..plin and simple.
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Duane, for once Joe Nathan spoke honestly, if inadvertently, about charter schools: everything about them has been “obfusacted,” and intentionally so.
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Michael, this week I was mostly out of the office trying to help district high school students deal with the inappropriate towing of their cars after a snow storm (I wrote a little about this elsewhere on this list serve) and helping one of our youngsters and her husband deal with the suicide of her mother. So I did not carefully check the brief note I sent.
” of frustrated families” unfortunately turned into “obfuscated families”. My apologies.
Our 3 children all attended and graduated from urban, not admission tests public schools. My wife and I together worked for 47 years for urban public schools.
Would you care to share what kind of public schools you have/are working in, and where if you have children, they attend(ed)?
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I have taught in a high poverty NYC public school that serves a 100% immigrant population for 17 years.
You know, Joe, the kind of kids that “some” charters take, but that the overwhelming majority of which do not.
Both of my daughters went to real public schools, K-12.
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Thanks for the update, Michael. You described the school where you’ve worked for17 years. Thanks for working with those youngsters.
Unlike the magnet schools in NYC that use standardized tests to screen out students who they don’t want to attend, charters are not allowed to use admissions tests.
You mentioned that your 3 children went to “real public schools.” Were those public schools with significant percentages of low income students? Were they public schools that refuse to allow low income students from neighboring districts attend?
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My daughters went to zoned, neighborhood elementary schools.
By the time they reached high school, Bloomberg had destroyed the comprehensive neighborhood high schools, so that wasn’t a “choice.”
Anyway, I see you motivation in asking this question about magnet schools, but, as usual, it’s deceptive: magnet schools, while problematic in some ways and a topic for another discussion, make no bones about their admission standards, unlike charters, which claim to be open to all, but play all sorts of semantic and institutional games to choose their student bodies.
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One of the reasons to offer options is that not all youngsters do well in the same kind of school. Another reason to offer options is that adults differ in the way they want to teach.
For example, Both Core Knowledge and Montessori promote use of the arts. Both have research showing they help many students. But they are quite different in approach.
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Right, Joe, so let’s destroy the public schools so that parents can have “choice.”
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“Another reason to offer options is that adults differ in the way they want to teach.”
Then why are your “reformer” friends trying to standardize and “teacher-proof” education?
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Bingo……we are waiting Joe.
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Linda, “teacher proof” is the opposite of what we’re working for. We’re working to help empower district and charter educators. Some educators really like some of the “teach like a champion” strategies, and not others. Some educators use other strategies. I wouldn’t force any teacher to use “Teach like a Champion.” strategies.
But one of the things that TLC does promote is recognizing students who are actively participating, and encouraging others to do the same. In some classrooms I’ve seen, students who are disrupting get too much attention and not enough attention and encouragement goes to those who are working with the teacher.
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People approach improving schools in a lot of other different ways. There are lots of us who believe many different approaches are important and valuable.
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“Both have research showing they help many students. But they are quite different in approach.”
Which to me implies that there is more than one way to skin a dead cat and that the current attempts to “standardize” almost everything is wasting a lot of human intelligence, talent and resources.
I have no problem with alternative private schools that do not take dollars from the local community public school that is supported by all taxpayers and not just those who happen to have kids in the schools at the time. If those private alternative schools can provide a “proper and adequate” education while making a profit for their owners that’s fine with me, just don’t use taxpayer monies and facilities (without paying rent) to support them. And the public schools should not have any other requirements other than living within the boundary of the taxing district.
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Duane, for decades districts all over the country have set up “alternative schools” for students they did not want in the traditional schools.
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Joe… You taking a lot of heat here… I would add that a bit (insert respect here however). I think all that Charter school can do that is good, can be/should be offered under the auspices of public school. Indeed it is true that different kids have different need, and in recent history public schools have done a great deal to assist in that I.E. Alternative Schools. The problem with charter schools, and the reason that we can’t refer to them as “alternative schools,” is that they have an intention behind them. They are here to undermine. They directly and indirectly carry the Ethos: “We’re here because public schools are not good enough for your child.” They are, metaphorically speaking, crossing a picket line while the teachers in public school are striking.
In addition when I hear about what Kentucky Fried Charter Schools do well, I am struck the realization that they are doing what everyone in public is doing. TLC, is great, as far as direct instruction goes… The problem is that it’s be sold as something innovative, that public schools don’t do. That’s just not true.
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James thanks for your note. More than 40 year ago, when a group of parents asked the St. Paul Minnesota schools to create a k-12 option, the same argument was made: creating an option will hurt district schools.
Actually, one result of the new option that was approved despite some opposition was that parents and teachers came forward with other options – Montessori, Core Knowledge, a Spanish Immersion, a Chinese immersion, etc. etc.
In many districts, parents and teachers have not been allowed to create new options. Indeed, as Al Shanker wrote in the late 1980’s, teachers who try to create new (in district) options often are “treated like traitors or outlaws for daring to move outside the lockstep.”
We’ve actively worked with local teachers unions in several states to encourage boards to create new within district options. I think those can be great.
Both district & charter public schools vary widely. I’ve seen terrific examples of both.
Having some options outside the district can encourage districts to turn to teachers within the district, asking them to help create new programs. Sometimes this happens (as it did with Pilot Schools in Boston and LA districts). Sometimes not. There’s no single strategy that will improve all public schools.
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I would say that’s the key… If it’s done in concert with teachers… Here’s a little poem I wrote is response to a teacher friend of mine who worked at a charter school (Sorry for the length- but I hope it’s worth it).
Hello All! Come support Trillium Charter School! Proceeds go towards the NY/Boston trip and the high school Mexico trip. Thanks for your support.
I cannot come
For supporting charter schools is dumb
In the GOPs plan
That cowardly klan
Privatization will save the day
They preach that it’s a better way
Charter Schools are their first action
but their having trouble hiding the contraction.
But public schools should be first priority
It’s really what’s best,
and not just for the majority
First of all, charter schools ARE public. 80% of our funding comes from PPS and ALL PPS students are able to come to Trillium. Second of all, smart-ass, the money went to support my students, and they do not have a pot to piss in, so whatever we can do to further their educational experience, we will do. Especially since we must fundraise for the missing 20%.
To spite the funding and the open attitude
Charter schools still are used for a conservative platitude.
You say you are public, but it does seem trite
Because like I said before, you are the first step in undoing what is right.
You say your students don’t have a pot to piss in,
but I know it’s untrue,
because I have the demographics;
I work for Portland Public too.
80% this year, how bout next
No matter what year it comes,
Your funding is hexed.
It takes away from those in need
And you have the audacity
to clothe it with sanctimonious greed.
Charter schools say “we do it better, schools should be a choice!”
This sounds like the ring of a capitalist voice.
Next they will say –
“How much did you pay
for the expectations that you have today?”
You say you are open to all students in the city,
Except when their behavior or ability isn’t very pretty
You also experience a higher level of parental support
If you don’t get it, the student gets to go to different resort.
All this adds up I say!
Break your denial,
And see there is a better way.
You can still take the paycheck and know that’s it’s wrong
But you insult your intelligence, and mine,
By singing this less than righteous song.
Love with wit I extend to you,
But you know what I say to be true.
Come back to us, our side will welcome you.
I wish I could just write up a witty little poem, but I just cannot. You are too good. Oh, and wrong! You do not know much about charter schools my friend.
Get the facts
get them straight,
You do not have the time to wait
It is your song that is so wrong
And it’s one that that you have sang for way too long
You should do some research
And please… do not besmirch
Check the funding record and you will see,
A conservative outline as clear as can be.
It is the goal of the charter to undermine
You don’t have to look to close to read between the line
Yes I am witty,
But don’t take offense
Look for the insight
It’s just good sense.
I’m here to help
Truly heart felt
It’s love I have for education
It’s not just an egotistical inflation
You have forgotten that schools are mirror
They reflect the absence of the values that we held dearer
Public Schools are not the cause of the problems,
So to abandon them is to give-in to capitalist goblins.
Also, know that I come from a place respect
For you who have lost your way
All I ask is that you reflect.
Come back from the dark side we await your return,
But know that the more time you spend
The more funding you’ll burn.
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You insist on calling charter schools public schools, which muddies any commentary you present. You have asked before to be specific in your language, and even after recognizing the confusion, you continue to conflate public and charter schools. I can only conclude that your purpose is to obfuscate.
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Is that for me, or is that to Joe…? If it’s to me, I would say, the Poem may have been unclear in that I did not differentiate between her (the charter teacher) responses and mine very well… I didn’t realize the Italics would not translate- sorry.
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Sorry, James. It was for Joe.
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Each of the 41 states and the District of Columbia that have charter laws regard them as part of their program of public education.
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Joe,
Charters have turned into a dual system of education.
Black schools in the segregated south were also part of the public system.
Do you feel okay about being in the same camp with the Koch brothers, Scott Walker, John Kasich, Rick Snyder, Eric Cantor, and the reactionary libertarians?
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As we’ve discussed previously, supporters of charter public school movement includes a variety of people. Among others, it includes the late Rosa Parks, the late US Senator Paul Wellstone, Bill Wilson (former Minnesota Commissioner of Human Rights), and a vast array of progressive educators throughout the United States. I agree with some people on charters while disagreeing with other positions that they hold.
Coalitions are fascinating things. Some of the people who post here and agree with you about some things Diane, are extremely conservative. Perhaps I am incorrect, but I assume that you disagree with some positions of extremely conservative people who agree with you about, for example, the Common Core.
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They didn’t support charter schools in their current inversion. They supported alternative schools, under the auspices of public schools. That is the deception of the corporate reformers… They have adopted the language of progress and care to advance privatization, and undermining of public schools….
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Actually, all the people I mentioned did (and in the case of people who are alive) support the idea of charters that could be approved by either local boards of education or another group.
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You believe that Rosa Parks wanted undermining of public schools…? In addition when I read the people that are talking about charter schools in positive light they are saying the two things that I mentioned earlier:
1) They are referring to practices that well trodden in the public school sector, and Charters are kind enough to present that as innovative… However, when you speak to any public school teacher you know that it’s not…
2) They mistakenly believe that Charter schools are just another form of public school… I.E Alternative school. Certainly that is the way that they are portrayed by the charter industry. But as we know through experience, they are not.
I would again state: All of what they are doing in a charter that is good, and that’s not necessarily a whole lot… could (and dare I say should) be done in a public schoo
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James, Rosa Clark wanted more strong public school options for inner city youngsters. She spent part of the last decade of her life trying to help create charters in Detroit.
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Do you really think Rosa Parks would cheer on Rocketship or some of the other ubiquitous corporate models?
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I’m sure Rosa Parks was not advocating charters in their current inversion… No, she was probably advancing “Alternative Schools” under the name charter school.
As Diane outlines in her book “Death and Life…” Charters did have a gracious beginning, with institutional values that were admirable. They have been (as I, and many others, have said) coopted by corporate reformers for the covert, and overt purpose of undermining public schools. The jury is already back on this…
They practice a kind of segregation by drawing the high performers from public schools. In addition they misrepresent what they do by relabeling best practices (that you find in any public school) as innovative- I.E. Teach Like A Champion.
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I seriously doubt that they support the current bastardization of the charter idea.
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That is not the point and you know it.
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I keep forgetting that by the time I post responses, they may end up at the tail end of a lot of other folks remarks. Again, I am guilty. My last response should be directed to Joe: “that is not the point and you know it.”
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No Worries… This kind discussion blogging is kind of a rhythm… I would agree with what Diane is saying and add, just because they have an official designation as “Public Schools” doesn’t make them such… They are a corporate entity working to privatize… Their intention is flawed (at best) and nefarious at worst (which is more likely).
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For the sake of young children, I hope this thoughtful early childhood teacher has already found, or will soon find, a school that a “better fit.”
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In a decade, will the people who were a good fit try to distance themselves from what will eventually go out of fashion? “Champion”ism in education is a fad. When it passes, who will proudly say they were a “champion?”
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Joanna Best: or from another angle—
It’s all about the adults. Looking good—to your administrator, to visiting dignitaries, to prospective clients [aka parents], to reporters taking their obligatory Potemkin Village tour of your charter. Putting on a show designed to impress and influence others. A pageant staged to keep the $tudent $ucce$$, political support and MSM favor flowing your way.
Actually doing good, well, another matter entirely.
That’s a trade-off that the leading charterites/privatizers are perfectly willing to make for OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN. For THEIR OWN CHILDREN, just take a gander at Cranbrook Theatre School:
[start quote]
The Summer Theatre School, our oldest summer program, presents classic theater skills like character acting, lighting, dance, voice, costuming, set design and other stage crafts. The Theatre School operates from Cranbrook’s beautiful Greek Theater grove, an outstanding full sized stone replica of a classic outdoor Greek theater setting nestled in a mature pine forest. Evening outdoor theater productions attract ample crowds from neighboring communities.
[end quote]
Link: http://schools.cranbrook.edu/programs/theatre
Why the startling difference? It can be measured oh so precisely in the ROI [return on investment], open or disguised, that delights the hearts of the leaders of the “new civil rights movement” of our time.
The real civil rights movement? The indisputably genuine article? I refer viewers of this blog to a recent posting:
Link: https://dianeravitch.net/2014/02/08/james-meredith-time-for-an-american-childs-bill-of-rights/
Game, set, match, James Meredith.
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Not sure what you mean by “championism”. Please explain!
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Being a champion teacher as suggested by this KIPP school where this teacher was deemed not a good fit.
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You know. The five weeks of training beat the odds stuff. The “if we demand success we will get it!” Magic teachers stuff.
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This are truly not teachers . teachers use best practices, differentiated instruction, revised literacy strong curriculum. ..This stuff makes me crazy. This KIPP thing is totally wrong with a your Principal. Crazy!!!
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but they are building GRIT.
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Having taught in urban schools, I can see the appeal of schools designed like KIPP —these schools do restore order and safety to often chaotic school environments. You cannot teach in a school where teachers and student are afraid and each hour brings a new crisis. The dilemma that these schools confront is the process for restoring order violates the the pedagogies that will result in the kinds of thinking these schools claim to achieve. Reading the G. Canada’s book, Whatever It Takes, was an awful account of what instruction looks like in school where law and order becomes the sole goal of schooling. The bread and butter of schools like KIPP is their firm belief in power of regimentation and a form of corporate revivalism that requires students to attend to what is being “taught” or else with the goal of becoming a “champion.” There is no attention given to the fundamental questions of schooling: what knowledge is of most worth? how should subject matter be organized? how should we assess what students understand? how should we teach?
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Let’s not paint all of KIPP with the same brush. Public schools across districts vary wildly based on their leadership and school culture. It’s no different within the KIPP network. Some schools are great places to work, while others I wouldn’t go near if you paid me a million dollars.
Assuming this type of teaching is encouraged across the KIPP network is misleading. Needless to say, I have also seen it encouraged in a very large public school district at a school I worked at.
The KIPP school I worked for in Houston was a great school, and I worked with amazing an amazing staff. They also weren’t all 23 years old. However, I admit that I worked at one of the better KIPP schools in the nation that had a lot of experienced and skilled older teachers.
They type of prescriptive teaching that Rebecca alludes to is happening across the country in large urban and suburban districts as well as charters. The only schools who escape it are those with maverick school administrators, private schools, and high performing public magnet schools.
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I’m going to confess right here in front of God and everybody, that I read and liked all of Teach Like a Champion… I actually got very into it, when our new vice principal (a TFA graduate) convinced our principal that we teachers were all suffering and in need. She “conveniently” had a grant waiting in the wings and bought it for the entire school.
Shortly thereafter, a friend of mine gave Me “Death and Life…” and I noticed that all the examples in “Champion” were from Charter schools… But that wasn’t the clincher.
Later in the year our new vice principal, while doing my evaluation, made the comment, “You have a lot of respect for the students, and that really gets in the way of your teaching.”
At that moment, right there in my classroom, at 3:21, February 18, I experienced what I would characterize as a “cascade of realization.” I have heard people talk of narrowly avoiding affiliation with a cult because they suddenly saw the big picture. That is probably the closest thing I can compare it to.
I put the book down at that point and hadn’t picked it up for some time until recently. As I reviewed it again, I cold see, all the example are from charter schools, it’s all direct instruction, and classroom management is the key. None of these things in and of themselves are bad, but the tone of the book is such that there is little else to good teaching. So to sum up… What I would say “Champion,” now is that it’s just too narrow, and it empowers an approach to teaching that’s akin to bullying.
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“You have a lot of respect for your students, and that really gets in the way of your teaching.”
Thank you, James, for being present to document what should be the epigraph of so-called education reform.
Stop them, before they kill again…
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‘ “You have a lot of respect for the students, and that really gets in the way of your teaching.” ‘
That statement is really scary.
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2old2teach: I had the same reaction.
Don’t be surprised, though, when the shills and trolls who haunt this blog sneeringly dismiss that as being “anecdotal” rather than “hard data.”
Except, natcherly, when it comes to their own [allegedly] indisputable examples of personal delight and satisfaction with [pick your name] charter school/chain.
“Hypocrisy is the homage vice pays to virtue.” [François de la Rochefoucauld]
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Yes… and that is their modus operandi, the unspoken narrative, to the “results” orientation of reformers. “Who cares if the kids are respected, who cares if there is love of wisdom in the classroom, these kids are here to have their mind filled with stuff from the curriculum- that’s it.”
I remember seeing the 2005 (I believe) teacher of the year on Charlie Rose. He was a TFA graduate. He said something is response to the character of good teachers and his comment was “They may good people, but they’re not necessarily good teachers.” The way he said it may me think of the Emerson quote “What you are is speaking so loudly that I can’t hear what you are saying.” It was as if the kind of person that you are doesn’t matter in teaching, as long as you do what you are told. As long as you do these things… as long as you follow the program…
Though it won’t submit to data, there is something so wrong about that approach to teaching… The mechanistic priority inherent to that point of view is amoral.
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I teach in a public elementary school with 90% poverty, 50% EL (24 different native languages are spoken by children), and a 50-60% transience rate. It’s difficult for many, many reasons. I have read Teach Like A Champion and employed several of its strategies. They do help with student engagement, and, unlike some others who have posted, I haven’t found these strategies to be disrespectful of students. However, I do not use all of the strategies–many are inappropriate for 1st graders. I use my knowledge of children and my common sense to pick and choose what works for me and my students. That’s the art of teaching: You read a lot, you go to lot of professional development, and then you use your expertise to use what you can to help your students. The key is to be given the autonomy to make decisions likes that for your own classroom. As a teacher, I just want to be respected enough to not have to follow a script or be boxed in to a certain teaching style. Perhaps that’s more the fundamental issue here than the ideas in the book itself.
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Well out, Dayna. Common sense is sorely lacking these days!
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Well said, Dayna! I found some of those techniques worked well in my high school classroom. They’ve been around for years.
The controversy is in the teaching style. I also hate to see administrators pop into a classroom for a few minutes with a checklist of techniques, check off which one(s) s/he sees the teacher use, then sends the teacher a note to explain why the others weren’t being used.
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This was a great post! Radding reminds me (in her current incarnation!) of my best elementary teachers in the ’60s.
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Rebecca did not get fired or pushed out. She quit, mid-week, with zero advance notice. By email.
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Teachers have no voice. 😦
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Teacher voice varies from school to school, whether district or charter. There are some schools in which teachers are the leaders in setting school policy
http://www.educationevolving.org/blog/2014/01/event-teacher-led-schools-great-environments-for-professional-teachers-great-outcomes
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Regardless of whether or not she agreed with her administration, I am personally appalled that because she’s angry about quitting/getting fired, she decides to throw KIPP and TFA under the bus. This is one school in a network of thousands and in no way defines what KIPP or TFA are about. I personally started teaching with TFA in Newark, NJ ten years ago and have been at a KIPP School for the past 6 years. I have had incredibly positive experiences with both organizations.
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