This comment was written in response to a post I wrote about Tom Friedman blaming lazy students and parents for America’s education woes:
“To echo everything you said about the current state of affairs and add one important thing you did not explicitly mention, there is the child; the child entering kindergarten, moving onto middle school and with great hope graduating high school and going on to college. The child developing through adolescence and onto young adulthood. Twelve incredibly dynamic years for which we have come over the past generations to a fairly good understanding of what works best in terms of his or her education. And now in the space of ten years all of this has been turned on its head and every child in a public or charter school in the USA is being cheated by greed. Class size? Who cares! The Arts? Unnecessary. Foreign language instruction? Es eso un problema? PE? Who has the time? A well paid and motivated group of teachers. Why? Isn’t there TFA? Children who should all be well fed, clothed, with quiet and safe spaces at home in which to work, spaces where they are loved and encouraged to love school by their loving families, are now asked to learn more with less!! Students told their teachers are failures, that they are failures, that they will never make it in the competitive global economy without longer school days, less summer vacation, math for which they are not developmentally ready, books chosen by lexile analysis, classes where the teacher is presented via the internet. And more tests, harder tests, longer tests. For the most part children are no longer being hit in schools across the nation, but right now the powerful are wielding a heavy and awful hand against them.”

I tried to post a comment in response to Tom Friedman’s article this morning. Although, I revised my post several times in order for it to pass the New York Times system of “moderation”, it did not appear on the Times website. Here is my comment, “Mr. Friedman, I’d be happy to show you examples of parental involvement and parents who take education seriously. It’s curious that in spite of your training as a journalist you seemed to have overlooked some good examples. It’s thousands of parents in New York State showing up to forums all across our state only to be spurned and ignored by the Commissioner of Education, John King (a product and some say “puppet” of the failed education “reform” policies of your hero, Mr. Duncan). It’s two moms, sitting at a kitchen computer and launching a petition to stop the New York State Education Department (NYSED) from sharing confidential information without parental consent and violating the privacy rights of students and parents. (and I sincerely hope you’ll take a minute to please read and sign here http://petitions.moveon.org/sign/protect-new-york-state)
These are just a few of countless examples happening in NY and elsewhere. I wonder why you haven’t reported on them. Could it have something to do with which companies spend the most advertising dollars in newspapers and who stands to profit as public education crumbles? Now that’s a story I’d like to see you write about. And as a follow-up you might investigate Mr. Duncan’s role in revising and weakening FERPA, a federal law originally designed to protect the privacy rights of students. I know an informed parent who would be glad to explain the history to you.
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Great post.
Pundit, n. One who pontificates authoritatively about matters about which he or she knows nothing.
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Tom Friedman, who can usually be counted on to be wrong on both foreign and domestic policy issues, is now wrong again on the state of education in the U.S. Diane just gave him a much-needed reality check!
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Steve Nelson is head of the Calhoun School, a private school in New York City. He wrote this thoughtful and heartfelt column for one child, and for every child. Mr. Friedman would do well to read it closely.
Children Have Value in the Here and Now
http://www.vnews.com/opinion/10244935-95/column-children-have-value-in-the-here-and-now
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The problem with the test makers is that they are not educators, they are psychologists with no background in child development or education. They have no idea how children think or learn so they write tests in response to what their adult bosses want and expect. The disconnect to the classroom is 100%. Also, the average teacher or administrator (or, for that matter, parent) has no idea how to interpret the tests resulting in the shaming of children, teachers, schools, and whole communities. It’s wrong, and it’ got to stop.
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I would think it virtually imposssible for a certified psychologist to have no background in child development.
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Imagine if the money we are putting into excessive testing and TFA training was only put into smaller class sizes the immediate benefits we would see. Of course there are lots of things/ways we can improve but sometimes it doesn’t need to be quite so complicated. My last year of teaching I had 27 first graders. I felt like no matter what I did there were kids falling through the cracks and the reality is I had good kids. What happens when you have 27 students who are in some of our neediest schools and a teacher with minimal training?
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A disaster. They just keeping short-changing the schools and packing the kids in
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retiredteacher,
I’ve also been saying the same thing for years now. We could have taken all the billions and billions of $$$ spent in this country on tests, test production, testing companies, supplemental materials for tests, EXPENSIVE CONSULTANTS who HAVEN’T seen a classroom in years, etc., etc., and upgraded the schools in our country that are crumbling, then built new classrooms everywhere, hired more teachers, and had classrooms of 10-15 in elementary and 15-20 in middle and high school. Wow! Our country would have been at the top of EVERYTHING! What a GREAT LOSS our country has suffered and is continuing to suffer!
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The reason that hasn’t happened is they never ask teachers what they think. I can’t tell you how many times our central administration told us class size didn’t matter. Even if you had 20 students in a class it can be a totally different experience each year. One child can totally change the complexion of a class. I sure had that happen some years. Anyone who has stayed in the classroom for awhile knows that. Unfortunately the people making the decisions didn’t stay in the classroom – it was too hard. And then you have business people who never even taught adding their “expertise”. I guess teachers should start telling hospitals how to run an operating room – or perhaps tell Congress how to run Washington!
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The reason that hasn’t happened is that smaller classes aren’t profitable.
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It would be AMAZING to have only 15-20 in each of my middle school history and geography classes! As it stands, in Utah, I feel fortunate if I have less than 30. Even 25 would be amazing!
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retired teacher
Both of your comments are so correct!
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From one retired teacher to another……I actually remember teaching when every kindergarten and first grade teacher had an fulltime aide to assist the classroom teacher. Makes a world of difference when dealing with five and six year old children. The highly paid consultant is of course acceptable today, but a caring classroom assistant receiving minimum wages, too excessive.
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That was just a few years ago in my Title I school. Eighteen students and an aide. Now its 25 students and no aide.
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It is only a small step to go from Tom Friedman’s POV to openly proclaiming that those who are small children now and end up at the bottom of an increasingly unequal and inequitable society are there because—
They chose to be disadvantaged, they chose to be without merit, they chose to be without any redeeming marketable value.
In other words, those lazy, shiftless and unworthy uneducables that Mayor Emanuel Rahm is not losing any sleep over. And such losers are certainly not to be confused with Michelle Rhee’s “most precious assets.”
The casual cruelty and callous contempt of such folks is, thankfully, completely unacceptable to decent people.
Just my dos centavitos worth…
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We are so “fortunate” to have Tom Friedman around to educate us on every topic in the news. From Israel, Iraq, the economy and education Friedman pontificates, offering solutions no one else is wise enough to come up with.
Or, maybe we are wrong about Friedman…he can merely be another gasbag in the employ of the NY Times, which itself believe anything it prints is the final word on any subject.
What’s worse…too many people believe anything in the NY Times should go unchallenged. ajbruno14 gmail
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Friedman writes “we are failing to recruit the smartest college students to become teachers…” The real problem is that we are failing to recruit those college students who love kids, are driven to teach, want to be role models, and are lifelong learners in whatever their subject matter, to pursue careers in education. They are a lost generation of wonderful educators, lost to our children because of blowhard “reformers” like Friedman who haven’t a clue about what makes a good teacher and what it takes to become a good teacher. They will be lost to our children because of corporate reform policies which have lowered pay scales, eliminated positions, ended tenure protections, and turned our schools into testing mills.
He follows up with his stock criticism of “reform-resistant teachers’ unions…” In all of his world traveling, has he never visited Finland? There, excellent schools, teachers, and unions somehow manage to go hand and hand.
Pray for our country.
Jill Stein for President!
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I couldn’t agree with you more, GST.
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I agree with most of what you said, but I think it is too generous to describe Friedman as a clueless blowhard. He presents himself as an everyman, but he’s actually a very crafty advocate for the interests of his fellow billionaires. He knows what makes a good teacher (no doubt his own children attended excellent schools), but his aim is to keep taxes low and to convert schools into cash cows for tech companies and Wall Street investors.
When enormous amounts of money are involved, it is safe to assume that the people who argue against the best interests of our children (not their own children, but other people’s children) are motivated by profit.
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La educación es un problema muy muy grande. Me gusta cuando tú pone : Foreign Languages “eso es un problema”.
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No entiendo exactemente lo que estas diciendo. Puede explicar mas, por favor? Estoy curioso . . . .
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I actually didn’t find this article so terrible. As a veteran teacher, I agree with the two teachers mentioned in his articles. I was doing extra work this weekend at school, and you should have seen the parents there for sporting events. It’s a big waste of time for 99% of the kids. Where is the enthusiasm for education and learning and excellence? It just isn’t there. Some parents (most are Indian or Asian) want a rigorous education for their students, but most just want their kids to “have a good time.” I usually don’t like Friedman and don’t see him as an intellectual at all. Yet, he is right that the blame lies with the families themselves and the students. They need to stop making excuses and start working. My family came here after WW2 from Germany with nothing on a cattle boat. Grandpa went from being an architect in Germany (and soldier) to working in a furniture store. All of his kids went to college, including my father. My father and his brothers weren’t out assaulting and murdering other teens. They were working their asses off. (like most Germans) All of this education malaise is culture!! I have seen a huge drop in student effort in only 15 years. Kids won’t make up missed tests, attendance is terrible. Kids drop electives like Latin and French if they are too hard and valuable programs are eliminated. It’s disgusting. Administrators fire teachers with too many parent complaints. That is the reality of the situation. I catch kids cheating and parents turn on me and accuse me of “seeing things.” It’s ridiculous. I am at a top public high school, so I don’t know what goes on in the bottom 25,000 high schools in this country. Let’s stop blaming teachers and put the onus back on the individual student and his parents. The problem is that there is no “cure” or “fix” for bad parenting or poor values. In this way conservatives are right that people have to feel the “stick” of poverty and learn the hard way. Should I even discuss contemporary American culture?
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Putting the onus on students, parents, and contemporary American culture means ignoring all the institutional problems that plague our schools by design.
You say people have to feel the “stick” of poverty before they will change. What about students who feel hopeless about education, and rightly so, because they, and their school, and their community, have already been severely beaten by poverty?
For students who see poverty and racism all around them, who see that there is almost no hope of leaving their neighborhood, who see that their school is a neglected dump, and who see that street smarts rather than book smarts are the key to their survival, ignoring their teacher (who is probably clueless, who probably doesn’t come from their neighborhood, and who probably means well but has little experience, or maybe just 5 weeks of training) is a rational choice.
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How do all my Polish, Vietnamese, Korean, Indian, and Chinese succeed? They are dirt poor too, but they know how to work hard and value education (you know, they actually want to learn things). Same goes for my Nigerian and Jamaican students. Why aren’t they using these excuses? They probably experience racism (nothing like the last generation), but they don’t let it stop them. Human beings are lazy by “default” and violent. It takes parenting and training to get human beings to work hard, respect their elders, share, be kind, etc. My 2 year old son scratched and bit his brother until we taught him how to behave. In the inner city we are seeing human nature in the absence of parenting: lazy, violent, ignorant, tribal (gangs), etc. This is what all of us would be without “civilization.” Just keep making those excuses for everyone. If they wait for society or human nature to be “fair”, then they will be waiting forever. Why did Oprah Winfrey build a school in South Africa? The kids in Chicago had no interest in learning, and she knew it. Bad values, faulty culture. It’s not poverty; it’s culture and values.
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Oprah built a school in South Africa to serve her own ambitions. She could easily have built the school in the U.S. I teach students from every ethnic group imaginable. Some of the parents speak no English and are of the groups that you say do not care about education. But they are at Parent Teacher Conferences. Sometimes they have their children or another adult interpret for them, but they are there. These parents care overall. I have parents I can never reach, too, but they are the minority. We need to work WITH the parents, NOT denigrate them. That goes for teachers as well as pundits.
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Yes, Friedman said some stupid things, but I like that they are turning it more towards the student and the parents. Teaching is not the deciding factor!! If the teacher gets the information across, a hard working student will succeed. I have a girl in my class. The mother is Romanian. This girl works so hard, takes meticulous notes, asks me intelligent, probing questions. If I had a class of girls like this (even 40 of them) I could fly to the moon with my classes. Instead she sits there surrounded by glassy stares and students constantly thinking about their cellphones. These other students (mostly upper middle class) only ask only one question: “May I go to the bathroom?” My limitations as a teacher are all about how far the kids are willing to go. I am always trying to push them, but they (except for a few gems) push back constantly and complain to their parents, or drop. It’s a fine line we walk. American teachers are limited by many lazy, apathetic, uninterested students. It’s not race or ethnicity, it’s culture!! That’s the truth of teaching in America, and many veteran teachers know what I am saying is true.
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john
I am lol…I had the same situation with a student from another country…who was adopted by an American Family…….. and yes…”May I go to the bathroom?” was the question asked most….
I had another class that was the opposite..It was smaller and we were flying everyday…..
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please don’t lump “exiles” into this posting; there are many useful purposes of lexile… if it is being MISUSED then that is the problem…. the basic understanding is (a) children have different levels : instructional level, independent level and frustration level — and this has been known and acknowledge in the literature for 50 years or more…. Further, the Vygotsky “zone of proximal development” (ZPD) is misunderstood and those who don’t understand the construct mis-apply their poor understandings… we need a stronger knowledge base and pedagogy and I think the best teacher’s colleges have developed this so misuse of concepts can be addressed….
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should be “Lexiles ” of course; sorry about that
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Short and sweet,
Tom’s a tool.
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And a fool.
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As we are mostly speaking from personal experience here, I’ll add one opposite anecdote on the cultural front: a mom of Indian students of mine– a strict academic task-master at home who supplements their schoolwork with additional assignments– met with her fifth-grader’s LA teacher to ask whether a strangely age-inappropriate new project was a ‘one-off’, or would there be more of them…
The school has just begun applying Common Core standards; the [9th-grade-level] project was adapted from Coleman’s sample youtube lesson on MLK’s letter from the Birmingham jail…
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I am plagued by this recurring notion that the “reformers” lack an awareness and appreciation of who children truly are. Rather they conceive of children (no irony intended) as a what and I fear that no amount of reason can alter their lack of insight or compassion. It is as if they were the developmentally unable to comprehend the beauty and innocence of childhood.
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U are amazing! Please keep moving us forward!!
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I have been reading all the responses to the grossly misinformed Friedman article and wish that there was a single comprehensive response that could be published in the NYTs, one that does not assume prior knowledge on the part of the Times readers. Marc Bernstein’s was the wrong article. Any suggestions? Thanks for your ongoing heroic efforts. Joan
Dr. Joan Daly-Lewis jdl Socratic Solutions (631) 928-5669 9 Sands Lane Port Jefferson, NY 11777
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I accidentally deleted a longer response to this blog, so I will post a shorter one. I just read the Friedman article, and while there are many things that I do disagree with, I empathize with the teachers who wrote in the article…10 years ago I began teaching at a city-wide, application school in DC Public School. One of the things that struck me is that even in classes like AP Calculus we as the teachers were the people who were blamed if the students did not succeed. Like the teacher who wrote in the article, I stayed after school and offered extra support, I recognized where the students came from and tried to get them caught up. I was no Jaime Escalante, and my students didn’t earn 4’s and 5’s on the AP exam. But all of my students, including those who were taking Pre-calculus (as required by all students at the school), I offered amongst my 10 rules for learning that the students had to do their part in learning. I as the teacher could only do so much for them,,,
One of my principals (the second principal in the school history) often chastised me and, in essence, helped convince me to leave teaching when he came up with an acronym he called SMILE (I am blanking on the meaning of each letter, but the M stood for motivate and I believe that the E may have been entertain/excite). This is the principal who would suggest extra credit points or candy/food as means of motivating students. To me, these were gimmicks…
I think that we need to stop placing blame – on students, on teachers, and recognize that we have to work together.
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