The New York Board of Regents has demonstrated that they are out of touch with the people they serve.
One of the few independent-minded Regents, Harry Phillips of Westchester, said recently that the Regents would not fireccommissioner John King despite his arrogant, dismissive treatment of parents at a community forum in Poughkeepsie.
Leave arise for the moment that nearly half the principals in the state have put their name on a petition objecting to his half-baked, destructive educator evaluation plan. The other half were not willing to stick their necks out, in a climate characterized by fear and intimidation emanating from Mr. King.
The issue at hand is that Mr. king announced five public meetings at which he promised to engage in dialogue with parents and listen to their concerns. What happened in Poughkeepsie was no dialogue. Instead, Mr. King lectured parents for over an hour, then gave them two minutes each to respond. He frequently interrupted parents to disagree with them. When the meeting degenerated into boos and catcalls, Mr. King stalked off, claimed that the meeting had been captured by “special interests,” and canceled the four other scheduled meetings around the state.
Many parents have stepped forward to say that their “special interest” is their child, and the only person trying to manipulate the meeting was Mr. King, who clearly had no interest in hearing from parents unless they agreed with him. He made the mistake of thinking he was in North Korea, but he was in Poighkeepsie, where parents rightfully believe that the state commissioner is a public servant, not their supervisor or boss.
So the Regents will keep John King. Will he take lessons in listening instead of lecturing? Will he learn how to show respect to the parents who care more about their children than he does? Can he pretend humility?
Although John King and Arne Duncan claim that the only critics of the Common Core standards and testing are Tea Party fanatics, we have learned in recent days that the man who is most effective in building opposition to the Common Core in New York is John King himself. Parents have learned that the state does not care what they think, does not care about the damage they see done to their children, and is deaf to their voices.
We will watch with interest to see how the next parent meeting with John King goes, if there is one.

In the present environment, this kind of politicizing seems normal.
How VERY tragic.
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Here’s NY Education Commissioner
John King behind-the scenes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvKVkitKOgk
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Reblogged this on CNY Teacher.
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He’s a hypocrite. He’s glad that 2/3 of all NY kids fail PARCC, and yet as soon as he’s met with failure, he turns tail & runs away. The kids don’t have that option.
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Not PARCC yet. Last April was just a Pearson preview. Pearson is one of the consultant groups writing test items for the PARCC 20 state consortium. PARCC tests are scheduled for 2014 – 2015 school year and are to be administered on computers (No paper tests) in both math and ELA. A logistical/financial nightmare for all school district in 20 states. PARCC also requires math and ELA batteries at the 70% and 100% points in the school year. Yes, third graders are expected to type their essay responses in a timed test!
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If the regents are going to dig their heels in and protect Mr. King then they and Mr. King need to be prepared for the blowback. I doubt that Mr. King will be able to appear anywhere in public without being challenged by parents, students, and teachers ever again.
Despite the choice to protect one of their own they will not be able to ignore the people whom they are supposed to be serving. The arrogance of the political class and the rich has passed a tipping point in this country and the people are going to push back and take control once again.
The honorable thing would be for Mr. King to resign while apologizing so as to mitigate the damage that will be done by the massive resistance to his policies from this point forward. He will have no power any more and the group of those who support him will dwindle as the controversy grows.
Politicians, no matter how arrogant, are easily reminded that no matter how much money their owners give them the people decided whether they continue in office or not. Does Cuomo aspire to the White House or anything beyond the governorship of NY? Is his support of his corporate masters and their reformy soldiers like King worth the cost of losing his future and sacrificing his ambitions?
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They won’t fire him because he is doing EXACTLY what they want him to do. He represents them. So, remove him from the stage. Bring the rest of them front and center and what do you have?
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Also, it would sort of be admitting defeat on their part, huh? They are not going to leave with their tails between their legs, by golly!
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It’s clear Dr. King has no interest at all in hearing what parents, or teachers for that matter, have to say. The Poughkeepsie event demonstrates that very well. No need to pretend with any other events.
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Thankfully, we have seen the real King at work, and I fear these new meetings will be tightly controlled by the politicians to protect him. But parents are much stronger and wiser than those who are making ed decisions. I think King has done more for the Opt Out Movement than any “special interest” group.
Diane,
Are you familiar with this professor? I just read an article about his upcoming book and I think you both have reached similar conclusions.
Has the NYTimes interviewed you yet on your new book? If so, I missed it and would love the link. If not, shame on them!!
http://economix.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/10/18/the-gap-between-schooling-and-education/?emc=edit_tnt_20131018&tntemail0=y&_r=0
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Thank you for that link, but I was wondering if she got a sit-down interview?
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I’m sure any appearances will now be invitation only, with invitees thoroughly vetted to be sure they agree with Com. King. The Regents and King can’t risk anything else that would prove how many parents and educators disagree across the state, and that it’s not just a small extremist few.
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Read it and weep:
NY Education Commissioner John King got an earful from parents in Poughkeepsie on Common Core, but when he decided to cancel the rest of the forums planned he received a lesson in civics. Parents banded together and called for his resignation. Today, King has reconsidered and says he will reschedule the meetings. Funny how well a reminder works that he is public servant who works for the people and not the other way around. That kind of reminder might need to be sent in more places than just NY.
King is holding a small, invitation only session? Who gets to go to that one? Parents should find out.
Note the tone in the brief article below from WNYT:
Town hall education forums, canceled due to disruptions, will be rescheduled.
After the first in a series of public meetings scheduled to discuss the controversial common core curriculum became unruly in Poughkeepsie last week, Education Commissioner John King called off the remaining forums in the state.
According to the state Education Department, new events will be scheduled around the state but in a different format. One will be a small, invitation-only session, but the spokesman confirmed there will be other regional meetings that are open to the public.
The spokesman says the commissioner hopes to iron out the details within the week.
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Regent Harry Phillips is part of the problem. The Regents hired a man who has NEVER taught in any public school, and only 2-3 years in a for profit charter school. King hasn’t even been an administrator in a public school, and yet this board sees him as highly qualified to inspire and sell our public school administrators and teachers on a huge, threatening reform and testing in which he predicted and then ensured 2/3rds of our students would fail? King has insulted parents and teachers, calling us “special interests”- when King is the man allowing corporate investors to control and then privatize our schools. King sends his own children to a private school and then protects such schools from the rigid curricula and high stakes standardized testing he inflicts on the children public education. Time for him to go- and call a halt to his destructive reforms. All of NY’s children are just as deserving of a rich, child centered curricula, experienced teachers, and non-punitive meaningful assessments that drive instruction that King prefers his own children to receive.
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hey, folks
Is it time for a national or community, or state coordinated strike. Keep kids out of school for a day to show the powers that be that parent’s mean business. Then do it again and again. Yes it would be a hardship. Yes, it might be impossible to coordinate. There are more of you than there are of them. That’s how grass roots movements get started. Maybe it’s a crazy idea, but when the only power you have left is yourself, maybe it’s time to use it.
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I agree…. have been pushing this idea locally in Seattle for several years…. sadly, it seems parents dont have imagination to see that the consequences of this action are not as dire as they fear – “oh we cant do that, our kids wont get into college”!
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The Regents should be fired. They represent the interests of the Billionaire Boys Club, not NY state students.
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True.
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There is a petition calling for John King’s resignation. Consider signing it. http://www.change.org/petitions/new-york-state-board-of-regents-terminate-the-employment-of-state-education-commissioner-john-king
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I never dreamed I would say this, but I would get on my knees to get Rick Mills back. He knew how to roll out change and reform. And when he screwed up the physics exam, he created remedies.
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Carol! YES! I thought it was James but you are right! Long for the days of Mills! He had respect and so did the Board of Regents. He listened and you had to have the research…. He would never allow the “build the plane in the air” nonsense.
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John King, New York’s Commissioner of Education has three years of teaching experience. He taught for one year in a private school in Puerto Rico and two years in a charter school in Boston. According to New York’s 2013 High School Principal of the Year and New York’s 2010 Educator of the Year, Dr. Carol Burris, “After his short career as a teacher, he became the co-director of Roxbury Prep, a charter school with fewer than 200 students during his tenure. Five years later, he became the managing director of Uncommon Charter Schools.” I was unable to find information confirming the percentage of students in New York State who attend charter schools. In New York City it is 5%. It is probably safe to assume that it is no more than that statewide, but if I am wrong, anyone who reads this, please feel free to correct me. If I am right, than our state Commissioner of Education has zero experience working in the sorts of schools that 95% of the students for whom he is responsible attend. He attended public schools in New York some decades ago. His own children attend a private Montessori school, so his personal experience with public education is dated and limited. How is it that someone so obviously lacking in personal experience and professional credentials has been given the responsibility of overseeing New York’s public schools?
He was appointed by the New York State Board of Regents. The Regents Chancellor, Merryl Tisch, is married to billionaire John Tisch. She attended private schools, taught in private schools and sent her children to private schools. She has zero personal and professional experience with the public school sector, yet for some mysterious reason she decided that she should be appointed to a position that is one of the most responsible for creating and implementing public school policy. For some mysterious reason, despite the fact that a number of career educators sit on the NY State Board of Regents, its members decided that she was the person on that board who was best qualified to hold the Chancellorship and in 2009 they elected her to that position.
The New York State Board of Regents is responsible for appointing a neophyte charter school operator and electing a dilettante philanthropist to oversee New York’s public schools. The result has been a disaster and not only for people who take issue with the CC standards and the assessments. Even people who like the idea of assessments, standards, accountability, VAM and all the rest of the reform stuff agree that here in New York, the implementation has been a debacle because the people doing the implementing are incompetent. What can one deduce about the judgment of people who would give people who are so clearly unqualified the responsibility of overseeing the education of millions of school children? If King were to resign or be fired tomorrow why would anyone believe that the Regents would appoint someone who was more qualified or competent?
Below is a link to an article that describes the process whereby the Regents themselves are “elected”. It is interesting reading. The people charged with overseeing New York’s public education system are several degrees removed, in terms of accountability, from the people who are most affected by their policies. The system is, in my view, altogether undemocratic and in need of a drastic overhaul.
http://gothamschools.org/2011/03/08/albany-votes-in-new-regents-amid-complaints-over-selection/
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I’m sick and tired of having our leader’s only qualification to develop and implement school policies the fact that they once WENT to school (preferably a private school) and/or know someone who also attended a school (also private).
It doesn’t make sense that a country who spouts idealistic prattle about improving our educational system seems hellbent on ruining it by ignoring common sense approaches and proven learning styles and techniques.
We are fools if we allow this to continue.
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In no other sphere, public or private, business, finance, medicine, the military, you name it, would we allow people who are so clearly completely ignorant about that which they are responsible for managing to have such power and responsibility. What is it about public education that leads people to believe that no experience whatsoever is required in order to understand it or oversee its development?
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I am so glad Tisch (and by association King) was the reason de Blasio won the primary. The UFT should learn an important lesson—sleeping with the Reformers is not working. Back candidates who truly back public ed and not the Gates/Bloomberg agenda should be sort out and supported. We have yet to see “real” reform, instead we see teachers lined up like ducks in a row waiting for the testing bullet to end their careers.
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Let’s see. David Coleman doesn’t care what students think; John King doesn’t care what parents think; and Arne Duncan apparently can’t think. Isn’t education supposed to be about thinking?
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And we have a winner!
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What a great statement for t-shirts, bumper stickers, and posters. Display them proudly, along with Diane’s book, at some of these NY “meetings.”
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Real strange how the deformers all have to have their meetings controlled and the questions limited. John White did the same thing in Louisiana. So did the Recovery District which supposedly oversees the charter schools. They really don’t want to get to the truth.
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“Special Interests” are to today what “outside agitators” were in the 1960s.
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So e of were here on the 60s. Maybe we should remember our cry “Hell no, we won’t go!” And see where it leads us.
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We, the parents who live in Poughkeepsie, NY will continue to pursue John King at ALL future meetings, bringing with us exponential numbers of parents and educators. We WILL be heard. We WILL NOT cede control of our children over to Albany educrats. If you want a war with us, you will get one.
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Show them no mercy, for you will receive none in return.
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Independent-minded Regent Harry Phillips speaks loudly and proudly for those segregated suburban districts that are gosh darn it not going to put up with change just because the rabble in the cities can’t get their stuff together. ‘We have a lot of great schools. When you factor out the poorest kids, we do great,” says Harry.
Sounds familiar!
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Truly profound…if you remove all of our failing schools then we’re doing just fine! Oh wait….more than half of our children are educated in major cities just between Buffalo, Syracuse and NYC…well…his statement IS still true…
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True. Our best are the best in the world. Our second best are also competitive. Do we want all our kids to be on the top – yes, but not necessarily in positions which are for the book smart. There are lots of ways to achieve – we still need professionals who work with their hands. Such as plumbers, roofers, masons, electricians, mechanics, landscapers, farmers, musicians, artists. actors, etc. These positions require people of much ability, but they don’t necessarily have to pass an irrelevant CC test to be successful.
Just saying . . .
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There was a time when New York State Commissioners of Education fought to help all the state’s children become well educated, while keeping in mind that they also needed to be treated humanely. On a list that includes James Allen, Jr., Ewald Nyquist, and Thomas Sobol, it would be ludicrous to add the name John King. Richard Ognibene
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Don’t you love it when the Blowback lands on their heads!!! When you see this kind of action, you know you have them on the run. Now is the time to take the heat on them real high. Then watch them make more fatal mistakes and immediately take it up again and watch them implode and self immolate themselves. They cannot take the public process and exposure. Thanks to the Ravich Blog they are not getting away with this. Too many people not only read but many are following to see what the conversations are. This is why they are going crazy. They are so in denial that they are very vulnerable now. Take advantage of it. Endlessly call them what they are for staying away from the “Big Banana, N.Y. Public Schools with around 1.1 million in one district. You have the power if organized and with a new mayor like Di Blasio.
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concerned educator at 6:07 PM up there: Great comment– GOOD thinking (on your part)!
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Thanks. I learned to think, write and synthesize ideas attending NY public schools K through master’s.
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How do the Regents get their jobs? I’m guessing they’re not elected, right? Who appoints them?
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Dienne,
The NY State Legislature “elects” them. I was unclear as to what that meant, since I certainly never had the opportunity to “vote” for the Regent who represents the area in which I live. Then I found the article linked below. The people who develop and implement NY State education policy are several degrees removed, in terms of accountability, from the people who are most affected by their decisions. Many of them have little or no experience as educators. Thus, they appoint a neophyte charter school operator and a philanthropist with no personal or professional public school experience to oversee New York’s public schools. We really need to overhaul the process.
http://gothamschools.org/2011/03/08/albany-votes-in-new-regents-amid-complaints-over-selection/
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Regent Bennett calls the request for King’s resignation “silly and stupid” and claims King is “in demand…….globally.” http://www.wgrz.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=229554
Regent Bennett was the first to testify Wednesday at the Regent Reform Agenda hearing in Buffalo. He left immediately after testifying. He obviously doesn’t care what anyone else has to say.
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Wonder what “DIRT” they have re: King?
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Good Evening —If the New York Regents will not listen to the concerns of the people / children that they serve, they need to step down. They are sadly out of touch. The psychological and emotional abuse of The Innocents ( the children) needs to end. Marge
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