I have just returned from a multi-city trip to talk about my book and had a wonderful (though exhausting) time. On the flight from New York City to Denver, I wrote an opinion piece that appeared in the Los Angeles Times on October 2, the date of my first lecture there.
I started in Denver, where I spoke at North High School to about 600 people, mostly teachers. I also met the brave insurgent candidates who are running for the Denver school board as a slate, hoping to bring nine long years of corporate reform domination of the Denver public schools to an end. They are: Meg Schomp, Roger Kilgore, Mike Kiley, and Rosario c. DeBaca. They will be up against the same corporate funding machine that has elected previous boards. The odds against them are long, but I hope they win.
One night in Denver, then I flew the next morning to Seattle. There I had a meeting with the Garfield High School teachers who led the MAP test boycott, along with some of their parent supporters. I grabbed some Mexican food across from the hotel, then off to the University of Washington. There too were about 800 people, a very enthusiastic crowd. When I was signing books afterwards, the bookstore ran out of books, and people gave me other things to sign. At one point, I was asked to sign a weather-beaten copy of The Grapes of Wrath. I was hoping that John Steinbeck would not mind.
The next morning, I left for Sacramento. On the flight from Denver to Sacramento, I wrote an article for the New Republic blog about testing, challenging the claim that we need even more testing. That evening, I was preceded by a wonderful lineup of speakers, including Anthony Cody, Linda Darling-Hammond and State Superintendent Tom Torlakson. We spoke in the grand Memorial Hall–a historic building–to about 1,000 cheering people, mainly teachers. While I was signing books, a very handsome young man crouched alongside me and told me that I had inspired him to become a teacher. I asked him to explain. He said that he had served in the Marines, and when he left the Corps, someone gave him a copy of my previous book The Death and Life of the Great American School System, and now he is a teacher and he loves it.
Next day, a drive to San Francisco, where I stayed in the Intercontinental, near the Moscone Center. A hour or two of rest, and I was off to Berkeley, where I spoke in a large auditorium to what seemed to be nearly 1,000 people. I was introduced by my old friend Dr. Bernard Gifford, who was long ago the Deputy Chancellor of the New York City public schools and has lived and taught at Berkeley for many years.
Sunday, thankfully, was a day of rest, a chance to take a swim in the hotel pool, balm for my aching back. Then lunch with Anthony Cody and Adam Bessie.
Monday morning, I was on the Michael Krasny show on San Francisco NPR. He is one of the best-informed book interviewers I have ever met. Then off to Los Angeles. Each of two days was consumed with radio shows on NPR stations. One NPR station, KPFK, was near the end of a fund-raising drive. The announcer periodically interrupted the show to say that they were desperately trying to match a $10,000 grant, and they would lose the offer if they didn’t get enough new members. When they had only 25 left to go, I offered to join. When I concluded my segment, they had only one member needed and 45 seconds left to meet the goal, and I paid for one of my sons to join, so I left the station with the satisfaction of knowing that I had enabled them to raise $10,000 by joining twice!
My first appearance in Los Angeles was at Occidental College, a beautiful campus that is now 126 years old. Beforehand, there was a reception, where I met many education leaders from Los Angeles, Pasadena, and elsewhere. But the most moving moment of all was when a woman unknown to me threw her arms around me and thanked me profusely. I was baffled, and she was crying, but then I understood that her name was Irma Cobain. She was the principal of Weigand Avenue Elementary School who had been ousted because of the efforts of Parent Revolution. She was very grateful for the support I had given her when she was under so much pressure from the people who wanted her head on a platter. At that moment, I felt that all the blogging was making a difference. What she read had lifted her spirits. She was clearly a warm, kind, empathetic person.
That evening at Occidental, I was introduced by Steve Zimmer, an elected board member of the LA district. He told the story of how down-hearted his campaign was when he received an email from me, saying that he could beat the money assembled to crush him. Just keep saying that Los Angeles is not for sale, I wrote him. And in the question-and-answer period, a beautiful young girl came to the microphone, and I recognized her at once from her pictures: I shouted out, “Hannah,” and got an electric smile from this tiny young woman. She was the same Hannah Nguyen who had dared to ask an unscripted question of Rhee when she was on her “teacher town hall” tour.
Afterwards, there was quite a lot of picture-taking and hugging all around. What a nice campus.
The last night of my magical mystery tour, I went to the campus of California State University at Northridge. This is a major teacher training institution, which seems to have a strong program in special education. Almost everyone I met was either a professor of special education, a teacher of special education, or a graduate student planning to enter the field.
The big excitement was the arrival of Matt Damon and his mother, the wonderful Nancy Carlsson-Paige. Everyone was excited to meet Matt, and he is an incredibly regular guy. He was wearing glasses, and I thought if you passed him on the street, you wouldn’t recognize him as one of our super stars. In the green room, everyone took pictures of themselves with Matt and Nancy. He made a beautiful introduction, and I gave him my personal copy of the book. Speech over, sign books. There on the line was Monica Ratliff, the beautiful and spirited woman who beat the billionaires and won a seat on the LAUSD board. And there was a teacher who wanted me to have a large squash from his school’s organic garden. And there was every variety of American, of every imaginable ethnicity and hue. All of them shook my hand vigorously and said, simply, “Thank you.”
I came home Thursday night very tired. Friday night, I was on the Chris Hayes’ show. I will be honest. I much prefer radio to television. With radio, you know that people are thinking about what you say. With television, everything seems to be about appearances–your hair, your lipstick, your jacket, your expression– and the time flies past. And always, always, I feel this tremendous responsibility, this weight on my shoulders. I think to myself, I can’t let the teachers down. I can’t disappoint them. They are counting on me. I have to get this right.
I left on Saturday morning for a meeting of the National Superintendents Roundtable in Washington, D.C. I was preceded at the podium by the great Pasi Sahlberg. He is a wonderful speaker, with great graphics to demonstrate his points (sorry, I don’t do that). I took a few notes on what he said.
Pasi said that if we traded every teacher in Finland for every teacher in Indiana, the results would not be any different. Despite the highly competitive teacher selection program in Finland, despite the high esteem in which Finnish teachers are held, they would not be able to overcome the deep poverty of so many children in Indiana. On the other hand, the Indiana teachers would thrive because of the excellent conditions of teaching and learning in Finnish schools; there they would find autonomy, encouragement, and professionalism. And he also said, “Standardization is the enemy of creativity.” And another aphorism: “Accountability is what is left after all responsibility has been taken away.” The lesson of Finland, he said, was that “excellence comes with equity, not with choice.”
So, now, after a long train ride, I am home. I am not yet unpacked. My desk is a mess. The letters have piled up. Tomorrow I will see my two youngest grandsons. Tuesday night I will be at Congregation Beth Elohim in Park Slope, Brooklyn, in conversation with David Denby of the New Yorker. Thursday night I will be at Northern Michigan University in Marquette, Michigan.
Life goes on.

Thank you for this account of your trip. It was nice to read. I was fortunate to be at CSUN to hear you speak. (Thank you for signing my book.) I also got a chance to speak to Monica Ratliff, and tell her about the outrageous class sizes at my LAUSD elementary school. She hugged me when I showed her a photo of the magnet I received for supporting her campaign. You are making a difference, Diane, thank you for all you do!
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Diane…I was so delighted to be able to find a seat for Monica Ratliff in the front row, so that we could be first in line and I could introduce you to each other. She is so grateful for your help with her election and with all your vital educational insights, and she is a shining light on the LAUSD Board of Education, making us hopeful that we can affect change in LA by working in unison.
Now, having 5 teachers on the Board will make a big difference to our community. But we still, all, must keep informing them of our opinions. Monica assured me that they do read our emails.
And yes, Donna, Monica is a big hugger…a warm and genuine woman of strength, determination, and great intelligence.
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BELOW is a transcript of Hannah
Nguyen’s comments at the
Michelle Rhee Students First
Town Hall.
Hannah and her group Students
United for Public Education (SUPE)
just launched their “Resisting
Teach for America” campaign
last Tuesday, October 1, 2013.
Donate HERE:
http://www.gofundme.com/4ar298
In addition, Hannah is a USC
sophomore, (and an aspiring
teacher!), having been accepted
there after her recent graduation
from Crenshaw High, which was
re-constituted against the will of
the community and faculty. In
fact, the teachers union UTLA
is filing and unfair labor practice
on the grounds that all of the UTLA
activists were not asked back to
teach at the reconstituted
Crenshaw—as a retalition against
their prior activism.
Hannah is living, breathing proof
of the quality of the former
incarnation of Crenshaw:
http://laschoolreport.com/teachers-union-files-two-unfair-labor-practice-charges/
Without further ado, here’s
a link to Hannah’s speech
at the Students First event
(which has gone viral,
approaching 18,000 hits!):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rL4zOuJe0hQ
Here’s the transcript:
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HANNAH NGUYEN:
“Hi, everyone. My name is Hannah, I’m
a student… Just a few things though, I
felt like this whole event was very much
looking at these educational policy
issues as a reformers versus teacher
unions kind of issue, and as a student
standing here and watching this battle
it is really disheartening, because it’s
a lot deeper than that, and these are
everyday realities.
“And this is more than a reformers
versus teachers union battle, this is
a social justice issue.
“And there’s a lot of things brought
up — going back to poverty —
reformers say that poverty isn’t
destiny, and that sounds great, and
I believe in that, and that’s
awesome.
“But you know what, if you really
care about students, you should say
that poverty shouldn’t be.
“Yes, we need to work on in-school
factors, and simultaneously we need
to work on out-of-school factors and
caring about the whole child.
“Back to high stakes testing. I don’t
know a single student — I’m sorry, I
have a lot of friends, and I have
friends at other schools too — I don’t
know a single student who says that
they learned something from a
high-stakes test, and the way that
their school is structured. They
should be given the freedom to
learn what they want to learn, open
curriculum, well-rounded, arts, music,
humanities….
“I used to stand by reformers, I will
admit it, I did. But after seeing the
facts, and the data and everything,
and my own lived experience. I
cannot – I’m sorry — stand by what
you preach if it has to do with
high-stakes accountability, this
“school choice,” which sounds great,
you know, choice — who can argue a
gainst that?
“But, I don’t agree with the fact that
charter schools, and how they push
our certain students, and I’ve seen it
happen.
“My main point is, listen to the
students. Listen to the students.”
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Once again my thanks for all you do….please rest up and savor the turn in the road towards truth, honesty and decency that you have directed. So many are now following your path towards bringing back our democratic education. Sadly, we still have so much to do to fix the wreckage that has come in our path. You energize us and make us see hope!
A teacher, Ellen Nutters
Sent from my iPad
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This was a wonderful post. The indefatigable Diane Ravitch. Most of all the children you are fighting for thank you.
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As a retired teacher in Michigan I am happy to see you are going to Marquette Marquette is a long way from where I live in the lower peninsula or I would drive to hear you. Take care of yourself and know that you are indeed a true warrior for public education. You have my deepest respect.
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I am exhausted just reading this. Please take a restful vacation when your book tour is over!
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I don’t know if you read every post of hers, but you should read this one.
Julie
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Chris Hayes treated you shabbily – I saw it. Usually like the litter bugger but
am writing to tell him he is turning into a sorry shitty little snot.
Hang in there. I used to write you at Manhattan and tell you how stupid you were
for what you all were pushing there.
Well, I suppose there is a Road to Damascus for all. I got mine in Vietnam.
Keep up the good work, now that you have turned to the good side.
William A. Franklin
806 Warwick Court
Burlington, NC 27215
336-263-2062
wafranklin@earthlink.net
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We need you, DESPERATELY, in Fresno.
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Joe….please let us know what is happening in Fresno. We are mighty in numbers and maybe we all can be of some help.
You can contact me through
Joining Forces for Education
joiningforces4ed@aol.com
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Fresno is one of the CORE districts that was granted a waiver for the DOE.
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Your presence and your work, whether locally or nationally, is deeply appreciated and admired. In four more years, when I am financially able to retire, I hope to join you in your herculean effort to change the course of this insane movement toward standardization and the demonization of teachers. Thank you for all you do!!!!
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Radio or television, it’s what’s on the inside that counts:
“Be careless in your dress if you will, but keep a tidy soul.” [Mark Twain]
And if you keep a tidy soul you will:
“Do the right thing. It will gratify some people and astonish the rest.” [Mark Twain]
Color us gratified and astonished.
You’ve earned a good rest. Take it.
🙂
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Diane, you do carry a tremendous weight upon your shoulders. It’s a heavy burden bear, but you are doing a wonderful job. Thank-you.
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I am so glad to hear that both Pasi and yourself were allowed to talk to this group. I had hoped my earlier request to PBS and Charlie Rose to have a discussion between Pasi, yourself, Bennett, and Rhee would be appealing to Charlie Rose’s producers. It would wonderful for the Public to hear both sides of this issue and then make educated decisions for how to best proceed with any reforms for their children and grandchildren.
Thank you for ALL of your tireless efforts on behalf of America’s children and grandchildren.
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I need to watch you on Chris Hayes, since i was otherwise occupied at 8 that evening. Glad you got together with so many wonderful folks I consider friends, like Anthony and Linda and Pasi, who has been kind enough to make sure I get invited each time he speaks at the FInnish Embassy here in DC.
It is not just the money of those driving “reform” with which we have to contend, but also the way their message dominates the media. And again, right now, we have to deal with the atrocity that is Education Nation.
But things are changing. You and your books are a part of that, a major part of that. Perhaps words from 1st Manassas are appropriate. As the Confederates struggled, Gen. Bernard Bee is reputed to have said to his men “There is Jackson standing like a stone wall. Let us determine to die here, and we will conquer. Rally behind the Virginians!” Thus Thomas became Stonewall.
For many in education we have been able to point at you, Diane – there stands Diane like a Stone Wall. Let us determine to fight on this ground and we will conquer.
You are finding so many willing to rally to the ground on which you chose to make your stand on behalf of public education, the teachers who serve, and the students whom they serve.
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Thank you for sharing your outreach Diane, I felt like I was on your book tour with you! As I was reading, it struck me that I felt like I knew everyone you referenced, from our teacher heroes who stood their ground in Seattle and just said “No!” to Monica Ratcliffe and Steve Zimmer who fought power and money with truth and justice and won, Irma Cobain, our hero principal, all the teachers who are hanging on by a thread …. We are all connected in our community together here on your blog. Get some rest and take good care of yourself, your community thanks you Diane.
A grateful teacher and parent from Columbus, Ohio
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Diane…Although I sent you a personal thank you note as soon as I got to my computer after your most inspiring presentation at CSUN, I want to do the same thing publicly. You hit all the cogent points, and particularly, we in LA were delighted to hear your words, and humor, regarding our problems with the Billion Dollar iPad fiasco.
You inspire us to hang in and keep up the fight….and once again we all recognize that your blog site gives us the fulcrum to find each other and share our information.
Personally, in this past year I have had the opportunity of cyber meeting so many wonderful and informed educators and community members from all over the US. In California we have amazing people like Rene Deidrich, Robert Skeels, and so many others who use their own sites to keep educating us.
Thank you for all of it. You are a treasure.
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I was at your talk at Occidental. Unfortunately, you were not on KPFK radio in Los Angeles – which is not associated with NPR but is part of the Pacifica Radio network (we are independent and take no corporate underwriting). Although I did not hear it, I am sure you were on KPCC which takes much corporate underwriting, including much from Gates, Broad and charter $. Their “education” blog on their website is coincidentally (not) uncritical of Gates, Broad, charters. http://www.scpr.org/blogs/education. I am glad you were on a NPR station so they could hear an alternate point of view – for a change. I am on the board of KPFK and, unfortunately, cannot speak to why you weren’t on KPFK.
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Kim…thanks for the link…though some of their, scpr, info is blatantly wrong, such as how CC was formulated.
Dr. Steve Krashen, with whom I was interviewed on KPFK, was also in the audience at CSUN. He is the emeritus professor from USC who is a major voice on reading education.
It would be wonderful if KPFK did ongoing, as in daily, interviews for our community so as to spread the word on education issues. Many local educators would brave the freeway traffic to this end.
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I’m in San Diego, and didn’t get to hear you speak. But I was thrilled to listen to your NPR interview Monday morning as I drove to work. It was a great interview–both the questions and your responses. Thanks so much! You are turning the tide!
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Thank you for taking the time to share this with us.
Having followed the events of Hannah Nguyen, Steve Zimmer, Monica Ratliff and Irma Cobain, on your daily blogs, as they stood up for public education , I found it poignant hearing about your meeting them in the flesh. I hope that your tour continues to touch peoples lives, inform the national debate on education, and build in momentum so that this house of cards called school reform will come tumbling down.
With tremendous gratitude,
J.
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Bless you for your tireless work. Please make sure you take care of yourself. Rest and refresh. You are truly one energetic, dynamic and amazing lady. Thank you.
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While you were out west, Buffalo had a forum with 2,500 in attendance hearing about excessive high-stakes testing and its impact on our children.
http://www.buffalonews.com/city-region/education/forum-on-testing-reform-draws-2500-vocal-teachers-parents-and-administrators-20131002
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I read about it and will post it.
Fantastic news from Buffalo.
Our movement to stop the carnage is growing.
We will win!
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I read the account of your trip, and found myself choked up with tears. You have NO IDEA how much it means to know that someone is on our side. There are no words.
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It is far too often that we read in the popular press about all of these issues, all from the point of view of the “eduformers” !
It is a pleasure and privilege to have such a powerful spokesperson to combat the rhetoric.
Thank you,
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Pasi: “excellence comes with equity, not with choice.” I guess it depends on how you define excellence. Finland is not exactly known for innovation. They unwisely put “all their eggs in one basket” – relying on Nokia as far too large a percentage of their GDP. Now they are suffering because Nokia is being “out-innovated.” A couple years back, Finland literally increased their government spending in the name of innovation because they were so not innovative. A couple major magazines have called Finland among the most innovative countries but when you peel back their measure, it is all about input not output, investment not results.
Yes, they have equity (mostly due to the homogeneous make up of their citizens) – highest mean on the PISA with low deviation, but how do their best and brightest stand up to the best and brightest in other countries including our own? Also, while the PISA is a good test for equity and for basic skills, it is not a good test for excellence. It measures skills that most 15 year olds are expected to have – not skills they may have. Example math problems from the test are at highest Geometry but mostly Algebra 1. Example science problems are actually reading comprehension not science. Not only do I know many students who have taken Calculus classes by 15, I was one. PISA puts a false ceiling and thus not only doesn’t allow top students to stand out, it actually depresses the mean for many countries whose students could score higher. Sure, adding Calculus, Physics, Chemistry, etc. questions would increase the standard deviation but it would also be a far more fair measure of educational excellence globally.
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Sigh…I guess if you really think Finland is the right role model, it is no wonder that corporations are trying to take over. So, they will continue to send jobs overseas or to hire immigrants. Think about it.
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Diane,
You are the Rosa Parks, the Eleanor Roosevelt, the MLK jr. that will lead education out of this horrible mess the reformitorium has created. I support and appreciate all that you do for teachers, parents, children and education. Thank you!
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Thank you, Laureen. I am humbled by your comment.
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Absolutely agree. Diane is the civil rights leader of our time. Her grace, intelligence, and tireless efforts will one day be part of our nation’s story. I feel a great sense of pride in being one, of many, who stand bravely and proudly beside her.
Integrity and character have disappeared in many aspects of our society, yet both are found in abundance on this blog. Thank you Diane for inviting and gathering so many concerned and caring people into your living room. Public education, humanity and civility are all being saved through your leadership and efforts.
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Diane,
I am one of the fortunate people (parent, community activist, rabble rouser and now school board candidate for the Denver School Board) who met you, listened to you speak at North High School, and then got to speak with you even further about the many challenges Denver and Colorado are facing, trying to protect our children from the corporate takeover of our public schools. Your visit was so significant to our movement, and there are not enough words to thank you for supporting our efforts to stop the train our district has been riding, get new engineers, and move in a different direction — one that honors our teachers, students and families. You are a true inspiration and NPE fosters tremendous empowerment which we all feel when we connect with each other.
Rest up, and enjoy your family. Thank them for the sacrifices they surely have made by sharing you with the rest of the world. Let them know what a difference this sacrifice is making on millions of kids.
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I read your blog most every day and this was the most comforting, inspiring entry–not that there haven’t been great entries daily but the warmth of your spirit and the authenticity of your voice poured out of this one, Diane, leading me to believe that change and sanity may be within our grasp. While you were in CA I was with a small group of Education deans from N. GA who were pondering how to work together to move beyond the concerns and regulations handed to us about all of the “terrible” teachers we prepare and we agreed to read Reign of Error before our meeting in Nov.! What–do something something intellectual, collaborative, and catalytic?…yes it is happening all over!!!! Thanks for your model.
My only suggestion is not to refer to Cal State Northridge, or other institutions with fine teacher preparation programs, as a teacher TRAINING program. So much more goes into preparation than does training, more subtle, nuanced, and complex–it’s not technical in the sense of of one-to-one correspondence between stimulus and response of behaviorism as suggested by the term “training”. Exemplary teacher educators are difficult to find (and keep).
I really appreciate your efforts Diane–the travel, the writing, the blogging, the interviews–you are unadulterated, and a great leader.
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Diane,
As a retired by budget shortage Hoosier teacher, this was the quote of the day for me from your blog: “Pasi said that if we traded every teacher in Finland for every teacher in Indiana, the results would not be any different. Despite the highly competitive teacher selection program in Finland, despite the high esteem in which Finnish teachers are held, they would not be able to overcome the deep poverty of so many children in Indiana. On the other hand, the Indiana teachers would thrive because of the excellent conditions of teaching and learning in Finnish schools.”
Since my congressman is also Todd Rokita, our governer is Mike Pence, and we are burdened with yet another “Suicide Caucus” congressman, there is soooo much more I could say about the other problems Finnish teachers would face in Indiana, but I won’t waste your time. Hoosier teachers keep decorating their foxholes and trying to teach while digging the sub-basement.
Thank you for the work you do.
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My wife, Colleen, and I, retired local NJEA presidents and frequent MSNBC viewers, watched your appearance on Chris Hayes show on Friday night and we are still reliving our disgust with the way your interview was handled. Except for your tiny little segment, the entire show was devoted to the federal government shutdown. That didn’t stop Mr. Hayes from using you as a “teaser” before each commercial and making it seem that you would be “coming right up.” As if cramming your portion into the show within its last 5 minutes wasn’t insulting enough, Hayes totally dominated every minute leaving you precious little time to respond. You did a marvelous job under the pressure of his rapid fire, nerdy speaking style, and you knocked every pitch he threw into the upper deck. He clearly has consumed more than his fair share of the “Kool-Aid’ provided by the corporate reformers, but you clearly demonstrated that he would learn a lot more from his guests if he did more listening and less talking.
Please continue to keep us posted about upcoming interviews and appearances. Hopefully they will be more fruitful than the one described above. We had the pleasure of meeting you at the NJEA convention in Atlantic City and Colleen informed you that you were “a national treasure.” You have more than lived up to that compliment. You continue to inspire with your Daily Blogs. We read all of them. Hope to catch you at some point in your book tour.
Dennis Loughlin
P.S. If you should ever wind up on a panel with Cory Booker, please give him a copy of your books and tell him he has a reading assignment from me, his 5th grade social studies teacher at Harrington Park School.
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Diane, will you run for president?
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