A reader asked me to post Congressman Jared Polis’ comment as a separate post. I agreed to do so, along with my response. I also recommend that you read his exchange with Jason Stanford, which I posted earlier. Stanford suggested that it was over the top to characterize someone as “evil” because you disagree with them. Stanford says there truly is evil in the world (think terrorism, think mass murder), but I don’t fit the characterization. I refuse to engage in name-calling with Polis other than to say that he is trying to intimidate and bully me, and I will not be intimidated, neither by his title nor his money nor his intemperate language. I will be speaking in Denver on Wednesday night. I welcome him to attend. And watch his manners in public.
Here is this morning’s exchange:
Jared Polis
September 23, 2013 at 3:02 am
I emailed a similar response to Mr. Stanford and asked that he post it in response to his piece:
The piece by Mr. Stanford is a bizarre defamation of me and my beliefs. Improving our schools is my passion and the main reason that I am in public service. I served six years on the Colorado State Board of Education and ran because I was sick and tired of teachers being vilified. Educators are the champions on the frontline every day and when I started serving on our State Board of Education in 2000 they were being demonized by our Republican then-governor’s policies.
After serving on the State Board of Education for several years, I saw unmet needs for our new immigrant population and among homeless youth, so I founded two charter schools which both continue to operate, Academy of Urban Learning and New America School. New America School works with 15-21 year old English language learners. Academy of Urban Learning works with at-risk youth, dropouts, homeless youth, and youth in transitional housing. I served as Superintendent of New America School for two years and left to run for Congress because I believe that we need to replace No Child Left Behind with a federal education policy that actually works. If I hadn’t run for Congress I would likely still be working in public education.
I have met many other charter school founders and teachers and haven’t met any who believe that charter schools are some silver bullet that “fixes” public education. They play an important role in serving at-risk youth, for instance most of the New America School students wouldn’t be in school at all if it wasn’t for New America School.
I continue to champion our public schools in Congress. I serve on the Education and Workforce Committee and if you look through most of my bills that I am the lead sponsor on they relate to education. Whether it is fully funding special education, improving computer science education, or improving literacy programs, I spend most of my time in Congress advocating for kids.
I strongly disagree with setting some public schools against others. I believe that we all need to get along and not sow dissent. Whether a public school is run by a district, a state, or its own board shouldn’t matter. I support ALL teachers and will continue to oppose efforts to set some public schools against other public schools. We are all in this together and we need to support our teachers and ensure that all children have access to a quality public education.
Yours in solidarity,
Jared Polis
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dianerav
September 23, 2013 at 8:58 am
I have met many members of Congress and the Senate over the years.
I have never met anyone as arrogant and rude as Jared Polis.
When I met with the Democratic members of the House Education Committee in 2010 to talk about my book—there I was, a former member of the George H.W. Bush administration, admitting that NCLB was a failure, that the Republican agenda of testing, accountability, and choice was wrong, that the Democratic agenda of equity was far better–Mr. Polis was unspeakably rude. After my 15 minute summary, he threw his copy of my book across the table and called it “trash.” He said he wanted his money back. I was stunned. I had never encountered such behavior in the halls of Congress, or anywhere else for that matter. Another member of Congress reached into his wallet and gave him $20, or whatever the amount was. He then berated me.
A few days ago, apparently outraged that Randi Weingarten retweeted Deborah Meier’s review of my new book–which I can safely assume he has not read–he tweeted that I am an “evil woman,” doing “harm to public schools,” and likened me to the Koch brothers. He later deleted his initial tweet, but has continued to write insulting tweets to me.
I know that I cannot compete with Mr. Polis in terms of money–he is said to be a billionaire, or close to it, having sold his family greeting card business for $780 million and then sold “Proflowers” for many more millions.
But I did learn one important thing from my family: manners. Jared Polis has no manners.
And I learned a few other things while earning a Ph.D. in the history of American education at Columbia University: free public education is a pillar of a democratic society. Mr. Polis, having founded two charter schools, thinks that public schools are inferior to charter schools. He does not defend or protect them in Congress. He is a champion for charter schools and privatization.
I welcome him to express his views, as my blog is open to all, even those I disagree with, so long as they are civil. When people disagree with me, I do not call them “evil.” I do not insult them. I wish I could say the same for him. He should grow up.
Diane

A very dignified response. You are quite right—Polis is clearly a bully and an enemy of public schools. The policies he advocates will undermine not only education but the basis of democracy.
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“I have met many other charter school founders and teachers and haven’t met any who believe that charter schools are some silver bullet that “fixes” public education.” ARE YOU FRIGGING KIDDING ME? I have an email saved in which Alex Johnston, former head of ConnCAN, boldly claimed, “We know who the real heroes are” – Johnston and the other lying pricks who are trying to kill unions and vilify the hard-working, caring public teachers. Talk about an ego!!! Polis is just another wealthy, arrogant, self-important asshole (as is Johnston, though without the great wealth; he is very-well paid, though, making a quarter-of-a-million per year while selling his soul for ConnCAN and 50CAN. He was also a member of the group that tried to illegally take over the Bridgeport Board of Ed).
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Don’t know who you are, but you to could benefit from Diane’s admonition regarding manners. Surely you have enough education to express your opinion without using gutter language.
Teachers strive to impress upon students that words matter, and that you lose your case when you must resort to your own rude language to make your point.
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Referring above to George P.
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While I appreciate Ellen Lubic’s call for more appropriate language, I will say that I agree with every single word that George P has written above.
George P. is a private citizen. He’s not a member of Congress. He doesn’t yell at people and throw books at them, and insult them in a public forum.
George P. is likely a non-billionaire, like almost all human beings. But it’s quite bizarre to read about a billionaire yelling and demanding his $20 during a congressional meeting.
Polis sounds like a megalomania victim, a sociopath and a obnoxious bore. I don’t like people who are full of themselves; this Polis guy has that problem on steroids!
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Here’s some thoughts for those who truly believe in quality education. First, charter does nothing different because they have the same standardized outcomes. They aren’t allowed to do this: http://savingstudents-caplee.blogspot.com/ So that makes charters and even choice moot. They will continue to gain notoriety by serving those who need us the most. Remember, low income kidsw can also have strong support systems so serving the exclusive poor kids shows nothing about the quality of the school. Go here and scroll down to the 2nd blog for details.
Until public schools are allowed to do something different, they will continue to close and students will continue to be ill served, in all schools!
Maybe Jason will pass this on 🙂
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http://www.wholechildreform.com
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Oh get over it you Victorian-era prude. There’s no need to dress up your language with genteelisms and euphemisms when talking about the vile cretins trying to destroy public education in the US. “Gutter language” is most befitting of them. If anything, I’d say George was a bit too mild and restrained in this choice of epithet.
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I guess I’m a Victorian-era prude, too, although I’m not quite that old, and I can’t say that I have always “minded my ps and qs.” Is that phrase Victorian enough? 🙂 This is a public forum, though, and Diane strives to maintain a civil tone. Do we really do her a favor when we can’t?
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Diane engages in rational debate while Mr. Polis engages in demonizing and propaganda. It just amazes me that all these super rich folks who have so much money to throw around, that they don’t start their own PRIVATE schools which would not take public funds. But, oh no, they start charter schools which are really private schools taking public money. These charter schools do not work in cooperation with the real public schools, they work in competition with the public schools, they drain funds and resources from the district schools. Instead of starting charter schools, why don’t they throw their millions at the actual public schools, hire more teachers, counselors and librarians, etc. Paul Wellstone was not for privatizing the public schools, he was for charter schools subsumed under the aegis of the district schools, the charter schools that he imagined would be working in cooperation with the district schools, not replacing them. Paul Wellstone would be against the reform movement and what charter schools have morphed into. Mr. Polis speaks out of both sides of his two mouths.
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When Paul Wellstone was speaking on behalf of charters – at for example his speech to a joint session of the Mn House & Senate, charters in Minnesota were allowed to exist outside the district public school structure.
Senator Wellstone praised the “marvelous Mn charter idea that is spreading around the country.” He knew that many charters were outside the public school structure because he had visited and praised them. He viewed them as examples of “small d” democracy and empowerment of educators and parents because that’s what many of them are.
He also was a great fan of district public schools, which his kids attended in Northfield, Minnesota.
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If he had lived, Senator Wellstone would be sad to see that the charter idea has now become a favorite project of ALEC, the Heartland Institute, Governor Scott Walker, and all the other reactionary governors and legislatures.
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Joe, are you back here again, after the way you embarrassed yourself last time? It’s incredible.
Last time, you criticized my city’s school board for a 4 year old corruption scandal that was directly caused by the Broad Foundation trained “Ed Reformer” superintendent! Yet, you tried to imply that it was the fault of people like me who despise the poison of charters, vouchers and privatization.
No, it was one of your people—a pro-charter, anti-public schools, Broad Academy graduate—who caused that horrific scandal and then failed to follow up on it.
It’s amazing that you would use something caused by a pro-charter miscreant to try and criticize defenders of public schools.
Then, you bizarrely implied that most teachers in public schools are sexual abusers of students, or enable those who are! And, you used an ultra-right wing source to make your shamefully mendacious case. Here it is, in case anyone wants to see what Joe Nathan considers a “reputable” publication: http://eagnews.org/about/staff/
And, most bizarrely, neither of these “stories” were even remotely related to what was being discussed on that blog. Joe Nathan sent those as sort of “In Your Face/Attack Pieces” for reasons I can’t understand. (Maybe because I live in Washington and those two incidents occurred here? That’s mature.)
I think you need to acknowledge your mistakes and bad behavior here, Joe. Including an apology would be a good gesture too.
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No, Puget Sound Parent, I have not ” implied that most teachers in public schools are sexual abusers of students, or enable those who are!” I have stated that I think this was a problem and asked if others agreed.
Most people on this list served did not agree that it was a problem. There were assertions that a person was innocent until proven guilty. Agreed.
But when I pointed out that there were educators who had been convicted, (using more than one source, not just the one you object to), most people did not agree it was a problem.
Interesting, two weeks ago, when I asked the president of the Education Minnesota (the statewide teachers union here) and the president of the National Education Association, they readily agreed a. teachers deserved due process and that b. Yes there were teachers who had done this and that it should “never, never never” as the NEA president put it, be acceptable.
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Whenever an adult has been found to abuse a child, it is a matter for concern. However, labeling it a problem in schools makes it sound like predators are creeping the halls ready to spring on the unsuspecting. While you are more likely to find child predators where children are, I don’t think we have identified a crisis situation in the public schools.
We all know you are a great admirer of charter schools and have participated in some successful ventures. That’s great, and once the attack on PUBLIC schools is resolved, we can begin to focus on all efforts that have been successful in helping children to learn. Right now, this blog is focused on the corporate reform agenda that is dismantling public schools and ignoring what we know about how children learn. At this point, your attempts to inject the charter message (publicly funded schools) is an irritating distraction to many on this blog. Hyperbole might get the best of us on occasionally (O.K., frequently), but I would guess most of us are aware that public schools are not and have not been perfect and that ALL charter schools are not inherently malign.
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Thanks for agreeing that “Whenever an adult has been found to abuse a child, it is a matter for concern.”
I don’t agree that ” labeling it a problem in schools makes it sound like predators are creeping the halls ready to spring on the unsuspecting. While you are more likely to find child predators where children are, I don’t think we have identified a crisis situation in the public schools.”
It’s hard to know what is a “crisis” these days. Seems like a commonly used word, which trivializes it. So I don’t use that word.
Having worked with families and schools around the country, I do think it is a problem that deserves attention. Everyone has to set priorities. I understand that.
As to charters – I’ve said repeatedly that I think there are outstanding district & charter schools. Same is true of ineffective public schools.
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Right on, Diane. I have been plugging both books in every medium I can.
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Interesting series of posts here. I can’t speak to all of Rep. Polis’s actions as I don’t have enough information. I have found Congressman Polis to be supportive of the public schools in his district which is where I teach and live. I’m surprised to hear that he behaved in such a rude way in the past.
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Kevin, he was not rude only in the past. He has been rude and abusive to me in the past two days. I am a scholar. I am a woman of 75. Does he not know how to have a civil discussion? I hope he doesn’t treat his constituents the way he has treated me.
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I wonder how the teachers and staff in his schools are treated. I’d love to interview them all.
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“Supportive” is lip service for people like Polis, Cory Booker, Jeb Bush, and the rest.
Heck, Michelle “I’ll Tape Your Mouths And Get Rich” Rhee always opens up her odious speeches with a bit about her “love and respect” for teachers.
It’s vile.
It’s similar to the sixties, when then Governor George Wallace would tell stories of how he defended “picked upon negro children” when he was a boy growing up and “HOW DARE ANYONE SUGGEST THAT I’M ANTI-NEGRO!”
Damning with faint praise is bad enough. It’s especially offensive to hear people who have made their careers by fighting for legislation that destroys teachers autonomy, professional status, income and retirement, and right to due process, then claim that they “love teachers and public schools.”
No, they don’t. And I think we have to pay close attention to these politicians who SAY one thing and DO another entirely.
Polis is the epitome of this type. Watch him closely. He’s not to be trusted.
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Guess ENTITLED people don’t think they need to be mannerly. And so they are examples for our young. OY!
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I hope that Mr. Polis reads this challenge or that it is otherwise made known to him. Mr. Polis, it’s time to defend your allegations or issue an apology. You have made these statements about Diane Ravitch: “is doing such harm to public education” and “Can’t think of anybody else who has caused more harm to public schools, except maybe Koch brothers” and “her theories are causing great harm to public schools” You said these things as if they were statements of fact, not just your opinion, and I caution you that claiming them to only be your opinion is not grounds to avoid the issue. Mr. Polis, either describe in detail why your allegations are true by presenting your facts or apologize and issue a retraction. There is no middle ground here, no spin or dissembling will be tolerated. I and very many others await your direct and focused response to this challenge.
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You should just go make a citizen’s arrest of Mr. Polis.
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For now I will limit my remarks to here, fully expecting that you will read them, Jared. Given the visibility your remarks about Diane being an “evil woman” I fully expect someone on either your staff or related to your campaign is monitoring what is being posted on thjis blog with respect to you.
You and I have known one another since the summer of 2007 in Chicago, when at the Candidates event organized by Brian Keeler someone brought you over to meet me when I was talking with Scott Kleeb, and to your credit you recognized the pin I was wearing as a sign of my having achieved National Board Certification.
You and I have spoken multiple times since you arrived in Washington. When I showed up in your office that day, as soon as you saw me you took me over to your LA who covered Education and told him he needed to be in contact with me – despite the fact that you and I do NOT agree on all things on education. I invited you to come out to talk to my students, although we never worked out a date.
You have never been less than cordial to me, and I think it fair to say you would say the same with respect to me.
I will address only what you tweeted.
It was over the line.
You owe a public apology to Diane Ravitch.
That you strongly disagree with her on some issue does not excuse the intemperate language you used – and if it were not you but a staffer tweeting in your name, then you should apologize to that person and appropriately discipline her or him, and still apologize to Diane, since the tweet was in your name.
Your failure to acknowledge how wrong you were in using such language is simply inexcusable and immature.
It is the kind of behavior we might expect from someone currying favor with the Tea Party elements that are dragging the Republican party to ruin, not someone who claims to be a strong progressive.
I do not know if you value what I have to say, but you know that others do.
For now I am choosing to offer this opportunity for you to apologize to Diane in public – here, on twitter, in any fashion appropriate.
If you do not choose do so, then despite the friendship we have had over the past 6 years, I will have no hesitation using the megaphone I have at Daily Kos – on which I remind you I am still the most recommended author, and other than Keith Olbermann and Meteor Blades, the most followed – to express not merely my disappoint, but my outrage.
This is not a threat.
This is a commitment.
I am willing to give you the benefit of the doubt if you acknowledge that you were intemperate in your choice of language and apologize – completely, with no self-justifications.
If not, then for whatever my thoughts and words might mean, I will not hesitate to explain why I no longer think you worthy of the support of any progressive willing to listen to me.
Maybe that is a half dozen people. Maybe it is several thousand.
But I will write it at Daily Kos, tweet it multiple times to my more than 4,700 followers.
It is simple.
You were wrong.
That you disagree with someone is not a justification for ad hominem remarks.
To refuse to acknowledge your error merely compounds it.
To the point that I then have to seriously question whether you have the appropriate temperament to be in public office.
You might choose now to denounce me. You will not be the first.
But my conscience will be clear.
What about yours?
What about right after Yom Kippur your refusal to acknowledge your “lashon hara”???
The next move is yours, Jared.
Don’t take too long to make it.
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teacherken: thank you for speaking with restraint and wisdom.
Krazy props.
🙂
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Ken,
I’m now sitting down as I write this, having just given you a standing ovation after reading your very good, direct and heartfelt letter to Mr. Polis.
Thank you for what you’ve written here. It’s truly superb—pointed, yet understated and dignified.
However, you made no mention of the yelling and book throwing in 2010, where this multi-millionaire loudly and belligerently demanded his $20 back for the book he described as “garbage” after flinging it across the table from Diane Ravitch.
I’m just curious to know if you were familiar with this bizarre and ultra-egregious incident prior to this? I consider that even more offensive than the recent insults and name calling against Ms. Ravitch.
Wrapped up in his ignorance, arrogance and entitlement mentality, Polis sounds truly disturbed. And I don’t mean that in an insulting way. I think he needs help. But he doesn’t need to be in Congress.
Also, were you aware that he outspent his primary opponent by literally 80 to 1 to purchase this seat to begin with, back in 2008?
http://www.opensecrets.org/races/summary.php?id=CO02&cycle=2008
For what it’s worth, I also called on Polis to apologize, on his Facebook page. He doesn’t seem like the type who ever has nor ever will.
But I will be watching closely as we move forward.
Again, thanks for such a moving and wonderful public letter. I’m glad you shared it with all of us.
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what else I know is totally irrelevant to the issue I am addressing, which is the specific ad hominem remark. I passed the contents of this comment directly to Polis, we engaged in an email exchange, in which he doubled down on the remark so I post this at Daily Kos. Polis has responded on the thread there as well, since I did him the courtesy of sending him the link.
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Wellstone would never have gotten duped into believing this feeding frenzy on public schools dollars was somehow “progressive”, nor would he ever spend a decade promoting the idea that all public schools are failing and need to be turned into “no excuses” charter chains.
I wonder what Wellstone would say about poor and middle class kids being sold hard on for-profit cybercharters, or a charter schol promoter who pays himself 5 million a year while attacking middle class teachers.
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Wellstone would and did agree that there were terrific district & charter public schools, and that we ought to learn from the best of each.
He was and would have been disgusted, as I am, at the way some greedy people exploit public funds.
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And who are those “greedy people (who) exploit public funds”, Joe? Can you be specific?
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No, he can’t be specific: it’s always “some” charters that exclude and counsel out children, “some” that loot public funds, “some” that game the political process, yet the charter “movement” is held to be a progressive force, and their schools “public.”
Weasel words from a wholly-owned subsidiary of Education Deform, Inc.
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Over the last 6-7 months of participation here, I’ve tried to point out examples of outstanding work by district & charter educators. I’ve also tried to give examples of behavior I think deserves to be criticized.
The respect I feel for many teachers, principals and union leaders is displayed regularly in the weekly newspaper columns I write that are published in a number of Minnesota newspapers. Here’s a recent example of a column that quoted two union leaders, as well as classroom teachers. The column makes two key points a. the value of high quality, early childhood education and b. the importance of involving teachers in the implementation of this good idea, so that there are not unintended consequences.
http://hometownsource.com/2013/09/12/joe-nathan-column-union-presidents-visit-highlights-potential-progress-problems-early-childhood-funding/
There are many terrific examples of district and charter public school educators. One of the ways I try to use this column is to highlight some of the good and valuable things that these folks are doing.
Sometimes I use the column to question and challenge things. There are examples of people in both district & charter schools who mis-use money, who do not treat students, families and other educators with the respect that they deserve, and who are not doing as much as they could to help young people succeed. There also are examples of testing companies that failed to do the things that the public rightly expects of them.
The vast majority of weekly columns since 1989 have highlighted outstanding things public educators are doing. But I also have used the column to challenge, question and criticize some things.
Most columns do draw reactions, some agreement, some disagreement. I learn from both (and in fact have written some columns that include both).
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For those interested in eloquent works from inner city students based on the wonderful work of some educators, here’s a link to a new CSC publication. It describes offers students’ perspectives on the value of various Dual (High School/College) Credit courses. This is the 4th edition of this booklet. This one concentrates on urban students. Others have included suburban and rural, as well as urban students.
http://centerforschoolchange.org/2013/09/new-3rd-edition-jump-start-dual-credit-booklet-available/
Yes, the booklet was done with help from various foundations. Each of the district & charter public schools have received funds from these foundations. Students also received modest compensation for their essays.
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