Two news stories shine a bright line on the allure and failed promise of AP courses.
Liz Bowie of the Baltimore Sun has an outstanding article about AP courses in Maryland, which has invested heavily on this strategy to lift achievement.
She writes that the expansion of AP courses has not lived up to its claims. “It has not delivered vast numbers of students from low-performing high schools to selective colleges with credits in their pockets, helping to bridge the academic gulf between the nation’s rich and poor. Too often, students who haven’t been prepared in earlier grades flounder in AP classes, or are awarded A’s and B’s in the courses and then fail the AP exams.
“The high grades for course work can lull students into a false sense of security, said Steve Syverson, a board member of the National Association of College Admission Counseling and a former dean of admissions at Lawrence University in Wisconsin. Many students arrive at college with AP courses on their transcripts, but with skills so low they must take remedial classes.
“The kids are … doing what society is telling them to do,” he said. “We just set those kids up for complete failure because they just get hammered when they get to college.”
“A Baltimore Sun analysis of test scores showed a troubling discrepancy between grades for AP course work and scores on the exams. In at least 19 high schools throughout the Baltimore region, more than half of the students who earned an A or B in an AP class failed the exam.
“Failure rates of 75 percent on the exam were common at Woodlawn and other Maryland schools with large numbers of minority and low-income students. For the 2011-2012 school year, the most recent available data, about 40 percent of students who took an AP test in the nation failed. But nearly 75 percent of African-American students nationwide failed, and the pass rates for Latinos and low-income students are far below those for whites and Asians.”
In a related story, Stephanie Simon at politico.com reports that the national picture is troubling:
“Taxpayers have spent hundreds of millions of dollars in recent years to nudge more students into Advanced Placement classes — but a close look at test scores suggests much of the investment has been wasted.
“Expanding participation in AP classes has been a bipartisan goal, promoted by U.S. Education Secretary Arne Duncan and by Republican governors including Bobby Jindal of Louisiana and John Kasich of Ohio. In the last five years, the federal government has spent $275 million to promote the classes and subsidize exam fees for low-income students; states have spent many millions more.
“Enrollment in AP classes has soared. But data analyzed by POLITICO shows that the number of kids who bomb the AP exams is growing even more rapidly. The class of 2012, for instance, failed nearly 1.3 million AP exams during their high school careers. That’s a lot of time and money down the drain; research shows that students don’t reap any measurable benefit from AP classes unless they do well enough to pass the $89 end-of-course exam.
“In its annual reports, the nonprofit College Board, which runs the Advanced Placement program, emphasizes the positive: The percentage of students who pass at least one AP exam during high school has been rising steadily. Because so many students now take more than one AP class, however, the overall pass rate dropped from 61 percent for the class of 2002 to 57 percent for the class of 2012.”
No matter what happens to the kids, the nonprofit College Board does well indeed.

Interesting to see a post suggesting that the results of a standardized exam more accurately reflect a student’s academic ability than teacher assigned grades. Are there other standardized exams where that is true?
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No, and it’s not true for the AP. Most AP teachers do/will teach to the AP test that’s all.
AP is a farce.
Disclaimer-I’ve been certified to teach AP Spanish but have in the past and curretnly am resisting efforts in my district (due to the inordinate pressure put on the district to teach AP and how that effects our state’s assessment of the district.) to teach to the AP.
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In my school district fifth year Spanish is AP Spanish. Is it different a there?
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in my state the chiefs for change Commissioner Gist put AP classes in Central Falls the state run school and the poorest school in the state…Poverty is high in this school but she pushed AP classes and made them free for parents…They don’t know any better so they thought this would be great self esteem for their sons and daughters…. If they only knew the Jeb Bush’s RI hub in his Chiefs for Change organization is Gist’s boss and her ulterior motive!
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I really disagree with the idea that the way to judge “success” in AP course work is dependent on the score on final test. I rarely agree with Duncan and company, but in this case I believe that should be judged for all students based on the skill sets and content learned AP classes. The question is not if AP classes are “worth the money” for minority students, the question is why are we encouraging students (especially those who may need it the most) to “test out” of the foundation classes in college that help build the skills and confidence to succeed in more advance college coursework.
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Exactly.
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Would the way to judge AP classes be by the skill set a student brings to college? That seems to be the criteria Steve Syverson is using in the post.
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I always thought AP courses were no more than another way to sort and track kids in high school (although now it starts at Junior High) that never really helped anyone. The problem I see is that instead of placing kids by abilities and helping those who are probably already on track for college, it tends to work the other way, labeling some kids as being of lesser ability and sets them back. A sort of race where there are losers and non-losers, but not really any winners. In the wealthier suburbs, your child’s placement may have as more to do with the parents social status and involvement in the school and community than ability in the classroom.
High school is for high school students; college work is for college.
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The most able students at my university come in with sophomore or higher standing their first year in college, so AP does save some money even though the courses may not be aligned well with the general education requirements of the institution.
I don’t think the line between high school and collage work is that sharply drawn. Living in a college town, students from the high schools can continently take courses at the university and several do each year. Some are even taking graduate classes at the university while in high school.
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In the college town I grew up in, the kids who were AP level took 1st year college courses as the satellite campus in the summer before they started college, or they gained special admission to take courses on campus in their senior year. The high school students were much better off for it because we all gained from having the higher achievers mixed in with the school’s general population and resources were spent on all of us, not just the chosen few.
In my husband’s small rural high school he didn’t get AP classes, but this didn’t stop him from gaining admission to Stanford. He took extra courses as a senior at his local community college.
I didn’t know that AP was about “saving money” I don’t even see how it would really.
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Very strong students in my local school district typically begin taking courses at the university their junior year in high school, usually in mathematics. They take other courses in the high school as well. Transferring college credit for incoming freshman, however is difficult (Stanford, for example does not take any transfer credit for incoming freshman, though I believe it does take AP credit) as it is not that common a practice yet.
Savings from AP classes would likely depend on how a college or university charges for tuition. Many schools charge by the bucket. The college my middle son attends, for example, charges the same tuition for between 9 and 12 courses over a year. Other schools, like mine, charge per credit hour. In the latter case, AP credits can result in savings for the student.
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Jamie ~ in our EdReformer’s fast forward world, high school is not for high school kids. HS is for Middle School kids, Middle School is for elem school kids and Kindergarten kids are asked to declare their college majors. A K-ACT is now available to begin the PreK college track. Per Duncan/Obama/Gates! Must preserve the US practice of separating the poor kids and step on their fingers as they clammed toward the goal. Then, the top brass manipulates the cut-off scores to assure that poor kids remain at the bottom. Once charters remove the top students, ELL, Poor & SWD are left. Now, we need to amp up AP classes for minority kids? Call me crazy!?
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Perhaps part of the issue is that we typically track students by age. Certainly appropriate for many, but not all students.
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When I was in HS, the maximum number of AP classes a student could take was 2 and a student had to be approved to take the classes. Now I hear some kids take five AP classes at a time. I heard one girl say how she got a D in math,but her counselor told her she could sign up for AP statistics. I also heard that in some schools a student doesn’t have to be approved to take an AP class, and even if they aren’t qualified to take the class, they cannot be denied a spot in the class.
It seems like we are in a huge rush to make our students take advanced classes. I even question why children need to learn to read in K.
I took no AP or honors classes, I did not have calculus in high school and still managed to get into a nice technical college and graduate with a BS in engineering. I took a class for students who did not have calculus in HS (It was basically the same calculus class everyone else took, but we started with chapter 1 instead of chapter 3). I wonder if I would even get accepted to that school today and if they offer a freshman cal class for students who didn’t have it in HS.
I don’t understand why everyone is in such a rush to push students and maybe the load of AP classes explains the overstretch of the common core down to the lower grades.
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l have the same question about standardized tests. If they are fundamentally flawed, the results shouldn’t be used in any argument.
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I couldn’t agree more. I took no AP classes and no calculus in high school, did not take so much as an SAT test, and still graduated from Harvard Extension with honors. Again, I think that tracking and sorting kids at the high school level is a bunch of hooey. Providing each and every child with a sound science/math/humanities/arts high school curriculum should be the goal for public high school no matter where the child is headed after. If the student wants college coursework beyond, then maybe the parents can work with the school to find something outside of school.
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About every three years a student from my local high school takes graduate classes in mathematics at my local university. What high school class would you have them take to help develop their mathematical abilities?
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If there is one student every three years who is able to handle the graduate class, then I think it is fine for him to do so – as Jamie last statement also reflects. I like the idea of allowing the students who are truly ready for an advanced class to attend a nearby college if it is practical. It is better than offering AP classes for 20+ students when in actuality only one or two are ready for the material.
I also think that the coursework Jamie describe would provide a sound education and I hope students who don’t take a ton of advanced classes aren’t overlooked when it comes time for college.
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Jamie may be correct that it is impossible goal to provide a better education for all in the public school system. Private schools and parents paying tuition to universities for their children to have special student status will fill the need for students from affluent families. For those with sufficient means, there may be more schools like Bard College at Simon’s Rock.
I think that this will be an increasing problem for school systems in the future. New communication technologies have reduced the connection between student learning and what schools are teaching. There are likely to be many more students who realize they are capable of much more than the local school is providing.
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What an interesting parallel to common core and testing. There is nothing more common than the AP curricula and its closely linked exams. These results should be blasted nation wide to show how rigor, accountability, even the best teachers in these schools cannot overcome the effects of poverty.
Many years ago I taught USAP in the Bronx. Many of my kids got “3” s..Most “2”s…but it did help them improve their level of work. However back then we were taught by AP expert and advisors to be as flexible as possible in reaching our kids. Many approaches were suggested. Today, that is no longer the case. Today, they have stressed the same “one size fits all” prescription for failure as CC and its test prep writers are stressing. Shame on us for not learning from previous experiences.
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I worked with AP issues in my former school district. I want to point out that according to College Board there is no such thing as a passing AP exam score. Different universities use different scores on those exams to determine whether to give credit. In the past the usual score that universities used was a 3 but that has changed in the last few years. Some require a 4 or 5 and some will give credit for some exams but not for others. Additionally College Board touts research that they claim indicates that students who participate in an AP course regardless of their score on the exam are more likely to be successful in college. There was constant conflict in my district between those who believed that students should not be admitted to an AP course unless the likelihood that they would score a 3 or better was high and those who wanted open access.
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Janet,
It is in the self-interest of the College Board to keep recruiting enrollment in AP courses, no matter whether it benefits students. It benefits the College Board.
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I understand College Board’s self interest. My point was to correct the notion that there is a “passing” score and to point out that College Board, at least, justifies their recommendations based on research. Perhaps the research should be reviewed and its faults, if any, should be exposed.
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In fact..in many colleges don’t ask for credit unless u have a 4-5. The high number of test takers has driven up the score needed for either advanced placement or credit….even the old trick of going directly to the dept chairs with a portfolio of work doesn’t cut it much anymore.
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Most departments at my university still give credit for a three. Some, like the math department, give different amounts of credit in different classes (business calc vs engineering and science calc) for different scores on the BC calc exam.
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But Jay mathews says it is a sign of a quality school when they enroll more students in AP classes and more take the exams. It provides a challenge, it prepares them for college, blah blah blah. In an ideal world, that might be true. In education, putting kids into classes in which they have no preparation or have not mastered the required basics will not raise self esteem. And then we get the grade inflation from schools for children who cannot pass the exams. And, as many have pointed out, credit may or may not be given depending on the program, college and course taken. But it sure sounds good and our ed reformers push for this.
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And some selective colleges don’t recognize AP at all…
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Examples?
I would like to let my students know.
Thanks,
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My daughter got into Amherst and Brown in 1996 having scored 4 and 5 on two of her AP exams and neither school would have recognized them. If your students are applying to competitive schools they should ask when they visit the school.
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Asking is a good idea. Most universities will list their policies on the web. Here is Brown’s policy: http://www.brown.edu/Administration/Dean_of_the_College/courses/ap.php
Here is Amhest’s policy: https://www.amherst.edu/campuslife/careers/students/gradstudy/health/guide/part1/advanced
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I suggest looking at my blog for overall graphs of total numbers of kids attempting an AP exam and pass rats. Those pass rates have remained fairly steady over the past few decades. I don’t see a decrease from 61% passing to 57% as enormous. In fact, the steady but explosive growth –exponential growth!! — in AP rates for American kids appears to me to be a real sign of success in American secondary education. Look at gfbrandenburg.wordpress.com and search for “advanced placement”.
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The snob factor at AP training is palpable. I teach poor kids and I was introduced by my instructor to a guest speaker as a teacher who teaches “unconventional AP students.” Like my kids have hairy knucles and sloped foreheads… Is it my fault that my students don’t have a copy of the New Yorker on their coffee table in the formalliving room?
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This is also an object lesson in the downside of ratings. The Washington Post’s ratings for HSs used AP tests as a metric for defining it’s “best HSs in America”, which applied pressure to schools to offer AP courses and had the effect of increasing AP test taking across the country. Jay Matthews, the WaPo columnist who helped develop and promote these ratings, contended that it was a good proxy for high quality curriculum. Ratings based on proxies are easy to develop but have questionable value.
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As an AP Language and Composition teacher of mostly minority children raised in poverty, I can attest to the challenges of getting students to pass the AP exam. However, many of my students do pass one or more exams and save thousands of dollars in tuition. Even those that do not pass will be significantly more prepared for college and will acquire stronger writing and critical thinking skills than their peers in regular classes. Those familiar with the exam (I passed it myself in high school and study it frequently with students) know that the level of difficulty on the exam is actually much higher than many college courses. The exam was probably harder than the English classes I took at UT Austin, and it is definitely harder than community college courses. So the notion that students aren’t prepared for college if they fail the exam is a myth.
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The idea of grade inflation is interesting to me, though not surprising. As a teacher and school board member, I think too many teachers are bullied or coerced into inflating grades, or they’ve simply given up because they know there will be hell to pay by certain parents. Maybe some want to boost the self-esteem of their students.
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One year I and several of my fellow teachers were called down to the library for a special meeting about our high failure rates. When the principal began his remarks, I pulled a small tape recorded out of my purse and set it on the table in front of me. The next words out of the principal’s mouth were, “Now, I can’t tell you not to fail a student who deserves it.” At that time, principals were evaluated on failure rates and suspension rates in their school so, yes, there was a lot of pressure to inflate grades.
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Sometime in the early-mid 2000s the AP program went severely astray through their advocacy of so-called “access.”
When I went to a week-long instructional AP seminar in the summer of 2007, on the first day the instructor wrote the word “access” on the whiteboard and declared that word the theme of the day. He made it clear that AP is not only for the best and brightest students; that selecting the best students for AP is a fraudulent way for the teacher and school to ensure “success” by picking kids who would be successful anyway, similar to the “skimming” of already developed talent charter schools are doing these days, and that schools had no business not allowing more moderately talented students to enjoy the fruits of the program. The College Board strongly emphasizes this idea to this day.
The 2007 seminar was otherwise excellent, but I was troubled by this theme. First and foremost, I wondered why we were assuming that denying “access” to AP necessarily relegated students to a bad education. College Board predicated their assertions on the tacit implication that any non-AP class is mundane, superficial and rote. Even though I was there as my school’s new AP English teacher, I took offense to that implication because I knew that this was certainly not true at my school, and I doubted it was typically true in most public schools. (And where it IS true, the problems of the school run much deeper than can be fixed by affixing the AP designation to classes.) I agree that cherry-picking the best students to make an ideal class is a fraudulent way for a teacher to appear successful, but CB seemed to take this idea as a premise to run far in the other direction and colonize every school’s curricula, since they were suggesting that nearly everyone in every school should be in AP.
And CB has an obvious financial motive for trying to get as many kids to take as many AP tests as possible. This of course went unmentioned at the meeting.
Now we have an absurd situation where vast numbers of kids are taking AP exams whether they are ready to or not. Schools justify this by saying that the exam challenges kids and helps them to think deeply and critically, as if such goals can only be reached through the AP program. These exams were originally for college level classes in high school, which by definition would only be for a minority of students who were atypically advanced–after all, high school is high school, not college; why should a typical kid in high school be ready for college? The majority of high school students should not be in many if any AP classes, and the AP program is obviously NOT the only means by which students can be challenged; but instead AP has wrongly come to imply the REAL college prep experience. In some states apparently taxpayers pay for the kids’ tests, which is absolute fraud as far as I’m concerned. When five hundred kids in a school take an AP exam and 450 of those kids get 1’s and 2’s, instead of saying “wait, most of these kids aren’t ready for this exam, so let’s narrow the AP course down to fewer sections and offer most students a more appropriate course,” they say, “well, at least they improved.” As if they couldn’t do that in a non-AP class.
Just to be clear, I’m a strong supporter of the AP program because the exams themselves are well-designed and well-scored, and are supported with excellent ancillary materials. The downward spiral the mean scores have taken recently is to the program’s credit, since with so many kids taking the exam the only way they could NOT go down is by lowering the bar, and the standards of the exam have maintained noticeably consistent since I’ve been involved in the program. But we should stop thinking that AP is something other than an assemblage of excellent tests, materials and suggested curricula.
Prediction: In the next few years, Coleman is going to make the AP exams entirely online. This will follow the online Common Core assessments and will solidify the tech companies’ financial reach into the public school sphere. And of course it will all happen under the banner of “progress.”
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“why should a typical kid in high school be ready for college?”
Sorry, I meant to write: “why should a typical kid in high school be currently performing at college level?”
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I think the explosion in AP classes in high school is one of the biggest scams in education these days. They are not necessarily good classes, they are essentially run out of a kit and by definition are taught to the test. And I think they set up a conundrum — if you are good enough in science to take AP biology as a 10th grader, than chances are when you go to college you will probably want to take biology when you get there. If you are not that good in science, you should not be in a AP Bio. (A course that was completely redesigned after my daughter took it because it was agreed that it was a mile wide and an inch deep.)
When I was in college for my basic undergrad science requirement I took an excellent series of biology classes for non-majors that I think were far better than the jam-packed, Nascar-paced AP bio class my daughter took. I would hate to think students miss out on excellent general ed. classes when they go to college because they took an AP class instead. (Though, I do appreciate wanting to save tuition money. But is the way to do so by off-loading college work to high school?)
Another thing to consider — how many of us took four or five college classes at once? In high school you often hear of students take four or five AP classes — often while they are taking two more classes, probably honors level. And don’t forget those extracurricular activities that look good on a college application! No wonder they don’t do well on the exams! Why are we putting so much pressure on high school students? What is wrong with high school work in high school?
But for urban public schools like the one my daughter attends, a list of available APs is a quick way to demonstrate academic rigor and that the bright, college-bound middle class kid will be isolated from the “general population.” It is certainly easier than making sure there are plenty of good classes for all levels of academic ability.
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New Jersey Teachers association uncovered this many -headed hydra. I hadn’t seen it all in one place any where else.
Pearson has acquired PARCC, SAT testing, GED testing, and was the central player (through Achieve) in the design of the National Common Core Standards. Pearson, the largest provider of education related materials (read: textbooks, testing materials, test preparation materials, National Common Core materials and teacher training workshops…), and ALEC. Some of Pearson’s associations with ALEC and/or parallel corporate-model approach to privatizing education at a profit include the following:
Connections Academy – ALEC’s private-sector chairwoman, Mickey Revenaugh, is a co-founder and executive vice president of the Connections Academy, which operates online classes in numerous states – recently acquired by Pearson.
America’s Choice – recently acquired by Pearson. America’s Choice is directly associated with Lumina, and the Broad and Walton Foundations, all active members of ALEC. They promote educational “innovations” that favor corporate-model reform
University of Phoenix – recently acquired by Pearson. U of P is the largest for-profit online private university system. (My nephew in OK taught engineering for them and quit ; I shared that on an earlier comment)
Connections Academy was, and University of Phoenix still is, subsidiaries of the Apollo Management Group. CEO of Apollo Charles (Chaz) Edelstein was Managing Director of Credit Suisse and Head of the Global Services group within the Investment Banking division, based in Chicago. He is also on the Board of Directors for Teach for America.
Bryan Cave LLP is the lobbyist firm for Pearson. Edward Koch is currently one of the partners at Bryan Cave. Edward Koch also conveniently sits on the board for StudentsFirst of NY, a state-level branch of Michelle Rhee’s brainchild StudentsFirst initiative.
Pearson also has a business agreement with Stanford University to deliver the Teacher Performance Assessment (TPA) – measuring the effectiveness of teacher candidates nationally – which means that Pearson will now oversee teacher preparation assessments as well.
Pearson’s Chief Education Advisor . Research shows that Barber is a powerful supporter of union busting, merit pay, and turning public schools into privately run charters.
Pearson contracts with PARCC which was developed by Achieve. Achieve is funded by Lumina, State Farm (both are members of ALEC), and The Alliance for Excellence in Education (AEE).
The Tucker Capital Corporation acted as exclusive advisor to The American Council on Education (ACE) and Pearson to “drive” the future direction, design, and delivery of the GED testing program. (personal note: I hate cliches like “drive” and “roll out” . There is one principal in Natick who slams her shoe on the table and says “we are a data driven school” when you question a student’s IEP.. she’s afraid of losing her job. )
TheCouncil of Chief State School Officers(CCSSO) – partners with a whole cast of other “non profit” organizations who promote a corporate anti-public education reform measures. “Partners” such as McGraw-Hill and Pearson and with Jeb Bush and whose associations with ALEC has spurred “Cheats for Change” . (CCSSO was a reasonable organization when people like Greg Anrig, Mark Shed and Gordon Ambach led the agenda ; as I mentioned in a previous email I had the honor of shaking hands with each of them and can attest to their integrity in their positions. I am starting to feel like John Lewis, the only living representative who was at that meeting).
GradNation – GradNation is a special project of America’s Promise Alliance …Grad Nation sponsors include State Farm (ALEC), Walmart Foundation (ALEC), AT&T (on the corporate board of ALEC), The Boeing Company ALEC), the Pearson Foundation, and Philip Morris USA .
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I don’t think that Massachusetts tax payers are aware of these intricacies….. I don’t think that the average taxpayer/voter in MA would consider ALEC to be the best representative of “local control” which has always been a value for public schools. Even the right leaning state of Maine newspapers called out the Governor and SEA chief for brining ALEC into plan their educational system. (But the governor can deny access to the newspapers if they tell)
The bullets above I credit to the New Jersey teachers; the opinions stated are my own.
My next post will be on Annie Dukin and Archie Duncan; how cheating at test scores and chemical tests will keep lawyer$$$ in business for decades.
jean e. sanders
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I teach in an urban public high school which began enrolling all seniors — including those with IEPs — in AP courses a few years ago. This move was engineered to assist in moving our school off probation. For the time being, schools in my district receive favor for the amount of students enrolled in AP courses, rather than for the amount of students who perform well on AP exams. During a recent lesson, many of my students did not know the meaning of the words “confrontational,” “contentment,” “magnify” and “brew.” Many of my students are unsure of how and when to use periods for ending a complete sentence. At least educational profiteers are getting something out of my students’ enrollment in AP.
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