How One Rogue Democrat Saved Vouchers in Arizona

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1. Ellen Lubic says:

   July 6, 2013 at 2:27 pm

   Proving once again that Dems can be as foul and corrupt as Repubs.

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   • Ms. Dee says:

     July 6, 2013 at 3:55 pm

     Amen, Ellen!

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   • schoolgal says:

     July 6, 2013 at 6:14 pm

     And I wonder who is contributing to her campaign coffers??? Unfortunately, the Supreme Court doesn’t allow us to find out. So much for open government.

     Diane,
     Check out the editorial about Bloomberg’s success in NYC. As I recall, his “small schools” did well because they didn’t have ELLs or special ed students.

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     • dianerav says:

       July 6, 2013 at 6:23 pm

       Yes, the small schools were allowed to exclude high -needs students for their first two years

       Don’t know who is watching them

       Everything the mayor does is reported in glowing press releases by his DOE

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     • schoolgal says:

       July 6, 2013 at 6:34 pm

       Not only is Bloomberg lauded, but so are the NYC charters that are allowed to counsel out students. And the Times doesn’t believe the community should decide on co-locations. In fact, parents should have no say if we follow this logic. You were the one who warned about the high test scores being phony. And you were right. Every move has been political. Every dollar spent has been political. Not one penny every reached the classrooms.

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2. Greg Patrenos says:

   July 6, 2013 at 2:40 pm

   As an Arizonan, I’m not surprised. As far as our legislators and business leaders are concerned all public school teachers should where targets.

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3. Greg Patrenos says:

   July 6, 2013 at 2:41 pm

   OPPS, make that wear targets.

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4. Harlan Underhill says:

   July 7, 2013 at 4:30 am

   Here is a link to, if you’ll pardon he expression, Goldwater Institute, about the Arizona so called ‘vouchers on steroids’ law.

   http://goldwaterinstitute.org/article/education-savings-accounts-questions-and-answers

   It does appear to be a way around the Blaine amendment in many state constitutions prohibiting the state from directly funding religious schools. Rather the money is deposited by the state in an Education Savings Account in the name of the parent, who can then draw on it for education related expenses in a number of different ways. The parent requests the dispersal. Yes, it’s a little fishy, but so far it has withstood legal scrutiny.

   What has not been mentioned so far is that the children are exclusively special needs children.

   It does take kids out of the public schools. But have you no compassion for children with disabilities?

   I tell you it is your blind hostility to anything that takes away your funding, even when its purpose AND effect is to help parents fund education for their special needs kids that loses you credibility, that, of course, and your knee-jerk socialism and statism. Public education is under attack because of the irrational anti-business stance of so many of the people employed in it. If you would just all admit that you what you really want is the same kind of power other bureaucratic agencies have, the IRS, the EPA, and the like, those who are inclined to want the public schools to be great but despair about the ideology of their defenders, could support you, but the rhetoric of your defense, such as that monopoly public schools are the ONLY way to perpetuate democracy, makes you look like self-serving hypocrites just worried about your jobs rather than people who want the best for the society. You are descending from a “profession” into ideological thuggery, from responsibility into powerless snarkery.

   That Indiana was successful in suspending implementation of the CCSS was owing to a coalition which included tea party groups all across the state. But when people here gag at any mention of the tea party organizations, turning up your noses, as if tea party patriots were dog turd, you betray yourselves as modern day bolsheviks. You’ve HAD control for almost 40 years now. You HAVE control of the Presidency and the Senate (and what good has it done education?). If you refuse to work with everyday citizens to solve real problems, in the American way of compromise, you are behaving like radical Islamists whose ideological stance won’t permit them to compromise, ever.

   In Egypt Morsi was thrown out because, as an Islamist, he CAN’T compromise. Don’t cast yourself in the same kind of socialist, communist, absolutist ideological mold.

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   • Duane Swacker says:

     July 7, 2013 at 6:30 am

     HU,

     Who is the “you” in your and you’ve and you?

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     • Harlan Underhill says:

       July 7, 2013 at 6:43 pm

       You, of course Duane.

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   • Michael Fiorillo says:

     July 7, 2013 at 9:24 am

     Harlan, you forgot to add “liberal” to your socialist, communist, Islamist, absolutist laundry list of bads.

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     • Harlan Underhill says:

       July 7, 2013 at 6:44 pm

       You are correct to supply the omission.

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5. lindathomas724 says:

   July 7, 2013 at 11:40 am

   I am on the Oracle Elementary District #2 School Board which is in Senator McGuire’s legislative district. I also work with the AZ School Board Association to promote public education legislation. I’ve met with Senator McGuire and have communicated with her on numerous occasions. This is not the first time she’s voted against public education. Here’s the blog post I did on June 14th, right after Senator McGuire sold us out: http://restorereason.com/2013/06/14/senator-mcguire-votes-against-public-education/

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6. Yvonne Siu-Runyan says:

   July 7, 2013 at 12:38 pm

   DEMs are the same as the REPs. No difference. Out for $$$$$ and total control. We do not have a representative government. We have a fascist government run by pansies.

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   • Harlan Underhill says:

     July 7, 2013 at 6:45 pm

     Ooooooooh. Your bad. Politically incorrect word alert. But thank god that the tea party is at least honest.

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7. retiredbutmissthekids says:

   July 7, 2013 at 4:33 pm

   In addition to the words “villainthropist. villainthropy and villainthrope,” I now add a word for some who call themselves Democrats but are, in reality, “Demoncrats.”

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