Secretary of Education Arne Duncan joined Connecticut Governor Dannel Malloy at a meeting with students in Hartford, Connecticut. The main topic was school security, but at one point a student asked what could be done to cut back on excessive testing.
This was the exchange:
“Student Justin Vega said he feels as if all the time and money spent on standardized testing has compromised the quality of his education. He asked whether the money might be better spent on security.
“Both Malloy and Duncan agreed that it makes sense to find the right balance in testing. Malloy noted that Hartford schools could potentially have a 40 percent dropout rate. “We have to do everything in our power to make sure that doesn’t happen. We need a multifaceted approach which doesn’t overemphasize [testing],” Malloy said.
“Duncan agreed about balance and noted that when he was the head of Chicago schools, he cut the amount of standardized testing by 50 percent.”
The student didn’t ask Duncan about what he had done in Chicago, but what he could do now to reduce the time and money spent on testing.
Does Duncan not understand that his zeal to evaluate teachers by the scores of their students has led to more testing than at any time in the past? Why didn’t he answer Justin Vegas’ question?

Arne Duncan is not the sharpest tool in the shed.
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But he is a tool just the same:
One who lacks the mental capacity to know he is being used. A fool. A cretin. Characterized by low intelligence.
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Duncan is a Self-Polished-Politician..
Duncan…Out the Door-2016.
Duncan and Obama have added Cr*p to the already No Schools left Standing by the previous owners..
I am so disappointed in Obama and so disappointed that he chose someone like Duncan..Race to the Top…Now FALLING FAST OFF THE CLIFF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
What a bunch of mess!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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I so agree. Obama has forgotten the poor children in our public schools.
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Is there any correlation between his not being sharp and being a Harvard grad???
Could it be that he is not averse to exaggeration, sometimes called lying?
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I don’t care where Arne received his undergraduate degree in Sociology. He is not qualified and undereducated for the job of U.S. Secretary of Education.
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Yes, his mom led an after school program, so now he leads us all straight to hell.
As Alan pointed out a few posts ago in reference to our parents’ talents: My dad played the oboe, so I am going to lead the NY symphony.
Let’s dilettante our way thorough ALL manufactured crises.
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He is a horrible listener. It’s because he doesn’t want to listen.
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Well Said..
Duncan wants to run HIS SHOW and HIS SHOW only!
He is despised among all educators…say for the ones in the DOE’s who wash his feet!
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And most likely they are not educators..just bean counters.
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Duncan is a lightweight intellectually, prone to corruption forcwhat he lacks, and s a politician. Politicians don’t answer the question. Instead politicians deflect and restate their agenda one more tinned. This is called marketing and advertising.
He is where he is BECAUSE: ( written earlier) iArne is not the sharpest tool in the shed.” He has to play politics. Sad and a crime.
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Yvonne Siu-Runyan: not the sharpest tool in the shed? Is that why he lectured the attendees at the recent annual meeting of the AERA about Campbell’s Law as applied to high-stakes standardized testing? You know, many of the same experts in educational research and testing who for years have criticized him for inflicting massive damage on education through the destructive testing requirements of NCLB [No Child’s Behind Left] and RTTT [Dash For The Cash]?
On the other hand, if you want to know how to fireproof your home, talk to an arsonist. If you want to know how to protect your valuables from theft, talk to a burglar or a pickpocket. So maybe Arne thought he was doing us a favor by letting us peek inside his mind [although in such cramped quarters, we wouldn’t need to take more than a moment or two to see the whole place].
First heard many years ago on my first full-time job, adapted:
How many Arne Duncans does it take to put in a lightbulb?
One to hold the bulb and nine to turn the ladder.
🙂
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Diane, Do you happen to know of any evidence that Duncan’s claim of having “cut the amount of standardized testing by 50 percent” is actually true? I don’t recall that happening and I haven’t been able to find anything which confirms it.
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Like NC….They cut some exams then added four times as many calling them by a different name and changing the names every week.
They test k -kids to the point where some have to see a therapist and the high kids are now immune and not even interested in any test. I tutor and see this on a daily basis…everyday…
The guide questions are supposed to be Real World…Underworld is more like it….
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We need Karen Lewis here. He lied most likely. His response didn’t even answer the question. BOO, Arne!
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This is the same Dannel Malloy who encouraged teachers to teach to the test, right?
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Wow perfect timing…great minds. Within two minutes of each other and it is only the 5:00 am hour. Go CT teachers!
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LOL! And the question is, what the hell are we doing up so early on our day off?!
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And this is the same Dannel Malloy who has saddled CT teachers with a crazy new evaluation process based on student test scores, multiple observations of both newbies and vets, surveys and a “school performance index” that largely correlates with socioeconomic status. By the way, the website where we record all this nonsense (I live in a district piloting this foolishness) is going down next year. They found a new vendor and are going with a different design. So glad we spent professional development time learning how to navigate the first site…
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Next year will be interesting to say the least as we roll out this crap stew of “reform”. I’m suddenly no longer caring if I get to the magic 37.5 years of teaching before I can retire. Anyone here own a burger joint in New England who is in need of an employee?
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Malloy and Duncan in the same room? They suck so much I bet the barometric pressure in Hartford dropped noticeably that day. Philistines.
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THAT explains the crazy weather around here!
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Also, notice Malloy’s soundbites keep changing…before he said he was fine with teaching to the test if it improved test scores, now we need a multifaceted approach that doesn’t overemphasize testing. New cue card from Stefan apparently.
We have a fleet of Manchurian candidates running our state and national government. Let’s predict the next new reformy lie.
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That’s a change though, which means they’re responding (rhetorically, politically) to what they now understand is a problem with the testing they sold.
That’s progress. They see it as a political problem, something they have to defend.
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I suspect that the soundbites are changing not because we are winning but because he is approaching another election. He has been approaching various union leaders trying to sound reflective and reasonable. In other words, he wants our support again.
I decided this morning that I am going to revive an old 1960’s piece of civil disobedience. If Melodie Peters lends Malloy AFT support, I will withhold the portion of my union dues that go to support AFT-CT.
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The CEA will probably support DINO Dan. The unions are in a tough spot: they have to keep pretending they are major players in the game and the only way to do so is to continue their support of Democrats, who, at one time, used to give a rat’s derrière about the working class. I think they fear that if they do not support a Demo rat and the Democrat wins nonetheless, it will prove they have no power to do anything.
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My iPad changed “Democrat” to “Demo rat”! It seems fitting, doesn’t it?
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One other tragedy in this exchange: the student would shift the money on testing to money for school security… Just what we need: less testing so we can have more money for cameras, body scanners, and good guys with guns…
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Is this why Duncan has a new advisory committee including John White??? Great. Just great.
At least when you google Duncan/White now so many hits about the revolution, push back and grassroots efforts appear as opposed to one month ago when you got nothing!
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This is similar to John King who told the Albany Times that testing has not increased in NY during the past decade. That is blatantly not true. I would check out the Duncan claim of cutting it.
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Let’s see here . . . hmmmmm . . . Before Malloy, we had CMT given once each year in the 3rd through 8th grades and CAPT given once in the 10th grade; now we still have CMT and CAPT but have added NWEA (MAP) given three times every year. I suppose that is what he meant by having a multifaceted testing approach! Decrease testing through increasing testing . . . sounds vaguely Orwellian to me.
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I just heard that, contrary to what we were told, we will probably be giving the CMTs next year because CT is not ready for the Smarter Balance assessments (pause to allow readers to be shocked and surprised.) so, this past year, we spent DAYS hastily aligning our curricula to meet the “rigorous” new CCSS standards and now we assess kids using the same old tests. Does anyone else get the feeling that the state DOE doesn’t have a freaking clue?
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Pryor is making it up as he goes along leading his merry band of Yalie buddies with their fancy new titles…chief of this, chief of that, special master, special mistress.
Rumor has it one position serves double duty as his driver. He is so über reformy he doesn’t have time to drive himself from failing school to failing school.
Not only will we be giving the CMT’s and CAPT, many are administering the NWEA/MAP THREE times a year and some with be piloting the SBAC.
So Dannel, once again you haven’t a clue.
Legally sanctioned child abuse?
Pryor’s Achievement First legacy has been receiving bad press lately for a high rate of suspensions for five and six year olds. Check out the AF leader quote about high expectations for their “scholars” and getting them ready for college.
I didn’t know scholars sit in the office for hours and get sent home with mommy for a tantrum. Did you? This is the newest article picked up by the Hartford Courant. The original was on CT Mirror.
Quote: Marc Michaelson, regional superintendent for Achievement First, said the school, where students annually out-perform their Hartford peers by significant margins on state standardized tests, has “a very high bar for the conduct of our students and that’s because we’ve made a promise to our scholars and our families that we are going to prepare them for college.”
Link: http://www.courant.com/news/education/hc-kindergarten-suspensions-20130525,0,6059434.story
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Yes, we will be giving both the CMT and CAPT next year, as well as the CWEA (MAP testing three times per year. Yet, Malloy could respond to Justin Vega with a straight face that we need a “multifaceted approach”, which apparently means more than one kind of test. His doublespeak is unbelievable!
I wonder what the students took from this.
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“Legally sanctioned child abuse?”
Yep, educational malpractice at its finest. From DSM V” A sub-category of delusional, one who insists that child abuse in the classroom does not have its roots in standardized testing.
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It is pitiful that in his role as Secretary of Education for the nation Duncan is asked a question about excessive testing but pulls on some fact (most likely a fabrication) from his past work in one city school system six plus years ago. THE STUDENT WAS ASKING YOU ABOUT YOUR LEADERSHIP AND DECISION-MAKING NOW, SECRETARY DUNCAN. You hold the highest education office in the country and are leading the way towards (read: dragging us down) a devastating path. Please have the decency to defend your current RAT RACE agenda that is NCLB ON STEROIDS. Please explain the reasoning behind the mandates for excessive testing (via grotesque teacher evaluation systems) that are in place or on the way in most states in the union.
Sorry to raise my voice. I am just so disgusted.
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He didn’t answer the question because it needed a good spin and his puppeteers weren’t there to pull his strings. Plus he is just dumb.
Welcome to politics. I need to think of a good word for politics. Some people equate it with democracy. I equate it with the ultimate in narcissism.
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Does anyone else hate that the reformers never use the word “learning”? They always say student “achievement”. Achieving the correct bubble pattern- not learning how to create and function in a kinder, gentler society. I long for a kinder, gentler society where people really do care what other people think. Someday, David Coleman et. al., you might wish someone cared what you think.
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Robert Tellman: even more telling is the phrase you never hear from the edufrauds when they talk about OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN—”the joy of learning.”
Just consider what the edupreneurs, educrats and edubullies procure for THEIR OWN CHILDREN.
Michelle Rhee, you’re up first. Out of 50 reasons to send one or both of your “most precious assets” to Harpeth Hall: #9: “Athlete, scientist, artist: at Harpeth Hall you can be all three”; #13: “We’ve got heart. For the past 10 years, 100% of Harpeth Hall students participated in community service”; #20: “Confidence: Instilled here every day”; #28: “Harpeth Hall girls form friendships that last a lifetime”; #34: “Encouraging young minds: a middle school where seventh graders build robots one minute and investigate current applications of constitutional amendments the next”; and #43: “At Harpeth Hall, students want to sit at the front of the class.”
A lone instance? How about Cranbrook where future presidential candidate Mitt Romney learned how to organize resistance to those awful ‘nancy boys’ in hopeful preparation for leading the USA in the War on Terror.
Mission Statement: “Cranbrook Schools are independent day and boarding schools that provide students with a challenging and comprehensive college preparatory education. We motivate students from diverse backgrounds to strive for intellectual, creative, and physical excellence, to develop a deep appreciation for the arts and different cultures, and to employ the technological tools of our modern age. Our schools seek to instill in students a strong sense of personal and social responsibility, the ability to think critically, and the competence to communicate and contribute in an increasingly global community.”
Last chance. U of Chicago Lab Schools, favored by Mayor Rahm Emanuel.
Mission Statement: “The Laboratory Schools are home to the youngest members of the University of Chicago’s academic community. We ignite and nurture an enduring spirit of scholarship, curiosity, creativity, and confidence. We value learning experientially, exhibiting kindness, and honoring diversity.”
I lied. Who could end a listing like this without including mention of the school Bill ‘EduExcellency’ Gates himself attended? In “School Life Overview” you can find out that
“IT’S NOT JUST ABOUT ACADEMICS
Lakeside believes there is more to life than academic success. We actively uphold a balanced approach to education; one that develops students who excel both inside and outside the classroom.
We offer a diverse array of activities, from leading-edge experiential learning programs to numerous athletics endeavors, arts experiences, and student activities and clubs. Everyone can find whatever it is that interests them to deepen their involvement in our vital community.
Lakeside also recognizes that it can be hard for some students to achieve that balance. That’s why our student support team is ready to help. Thoughtful and motivated counselors, teachers, and administrators work with students and their families to ensure that all have the opportunity to reach their full potential at Lakeside.”
Most commendable, although I am sure y’all are with me in being very disappointed in not seeing even an oblique reference to SLANT and at least 26% of instructional time devoted to test prep. Maybe next year…
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Duncan…You are throwing around words..
Show us what you cut..Names of Tests.?…..How many Tests?…What Grades???
NEED THAT DATA …DUNCAN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
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Someone should check it. Duncan exaggerated his basketball career. Anyone who would lie about such a lame non-issue has credibility/ huge ego issues.
On a brighter note, I think the fact that they’re so defensive on the ridiculous amount of testing is a political win. You-all are winning on testing. If they’re explaining (and they all are) they’re losing.
The next step is accountability. Why did they push testing so hard? Was that a mistake? Are they willing to admit (finally) that it was a mistake, after ten years? Why did it take them so long and what have they learned?
School reformers lack accountability.
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I do think the rheeformers in CT are getting nervous: we are getting inundated with tv and radio messages urging us to “stay the course on school reform”. I am encouraged by it, although the commercials nauseate me so much I turn off the radio or tv whenever I hear one.
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And you know A better Connecticut is ConnCan is ConnAd….they have multiple identities like Sybil and an never ending supply of money. Their ads are everywhere. Jennifer Alexander is the new Pat Riccards. She writes the same piece over and over filled with lies about charter waiting lists, charter success, etc. See this recent article and wait for comments that haven’t been posted yet. We are on to her for sure.
http://www.ctnewsjunkie.com/ctnj.php/archives/entry/op-ed_lawmakers_must_do_whats_right_for_children_and_families/
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I submitted a comment. Can I assume you are Linda12?
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Yes, yes…I just read yours, too. We are connected! I wish you a smooth and splendid end to the school year and a relaxing summer to recharge! I love your posts. Let’s stay in touch. 🙂
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I enjoy your posts as well: some make me literally LOL. It should be easier to post more when school is out (after my entire classroom is boxed up, that is!) I hope your few remaining weeks of school are also stress-free.
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Also, read the recent Bridgeport parent smack down of Ms. Alexander. Excerpt here, but be sure to read the full letter:
Ms. Alexander goes on to state “our students’ futures” and Bridgeport’s economic outlook depend on our ability to maintain and build upon these efforts. As Bridgeport parents, we speak for “our students,” not Ms. Alexander.
ConnCan is funded by some very wealthy individuals. Their main purpose is to advocate for charter schools and their expansion. We are Bridgeport public school parents and elected parent leaders who volunteer our time and service. We do not receive a dime in compensation for the advocacy work that we do.
Until Ms. Alexander can say the same, we recommend she speak for herself and not for those of us that are in the trenches fighting and advocating for our children’s education every day.
http://www.ctpost.com/opinion/article/Charter-school-proponent-does-not-speak-for-4547394.php
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I love it! Let’s send the carpetbaggers packing!
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I’m reading about the Common Core in OH and the tests are 3 times as long as the battery of standardized testing my 4th grader takes now.
Maybe that can be defended, I don’t know, because reformers neglected to tell parents this little detail.
I really resent the slick marketing and the
dishonesty. We deserve to be treated like
adults.
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Can someone please explain to me how any administrator can be successful in public education if he has never taught. If Secretary Duncan showed any sign of competence in teaching, which he does not have, then he could have replied to the student that tests would be replaced with portfolios. It has been five years now since Arne Duncan has been appointed as our leader in public education, yet the results are plummeting failure. How do we oust him from this position?
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The Dunk Funcan at his best:
“From Living in Dialogue:
In 2009, Arne Duncan spoke out on the subject:
“At the end of my tenure, if only seven mayors are in control, I think I will have failed,” Duncan said.
He offered to do whatever he can to make the case. “I’ll come to your cities,” Duncan said. “I’ll meet with your editorial boards. I’ll talk with your business communities. I will be there.”
It is interesting that when Duncan lists those he needs to convince, voters, teachers, parents and students do not even enter the picture. This is about political muscle.”
Notice he didn’t say anything about meeting with teachers???
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Arne has done a great job convincing the editorial boards at the Washington Post and New York Times but he has lost the support of the people who vote. Mr. Duncan is not a politician, he gets appointed to positions of power because he is a tool.
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I hope the people in Chicago are going to investigate this claim. Considering the source it needs to be verified. If he is just making it up as he goes along, which all the deformers do, that fact needs to be trumpeted to the high hills!
Duncan was on the board of the Broad Foundation while he was Superintendent in Chicago. Michelle Rhee was on the board at the same time he was. In the 2009/2010 Annual Report of the Broad Foundation where they celebrated Dunan’s appointment as Secretary of Education, they say:
“Prior to becoming U.S. secretary of education, Arne Duncan was CEO of Chicago Public Schools, where he hosted 23 Broad Residents. Duncan now has five Broad Residents and alumni working with him in the U.S. Department of Education.”
http://tinyurl.com/6w5sps2 (Page 10)
Considering their whole narrative depends on the canard of “failing schools” based on low test scores due to social conditions over which teachers have no control, this claim is highly unlikely.
It is a sign of the times, however, that he feels the need to make such a claim. This indicates the testing regime has peaked and it’s all downhill from here for them
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As usual, Duncan is myth-making. He probably means that he a) stopped using the Iowa test as a high-stakes test and substituted the state test, the ISAT, but only because they started giving the ISAT every year from 3-8th grade which made it available as a retention test and/or b) he dropped the high school CASE exam which Substance’s George Schmidt and students had already exposed as a joke test. Neither would actually qualify as a 50% cut and neither was anything to be proud of.
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And wasn’t the ISAT replaced by the Prairie in high school, as well as making the ACT mandatory? I mean it’s not like they just stopped assessing kids in high school.
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Assessing students should not be confused with standardized testing. They are mutually exclusive concepts.
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No, assessment is a broad term that includes a wide variety of ways of documenting and evaluating knowledge, skills, dispositions, behavior, growth etc,, including standardized testing. I have taken more assessment courses than I care to count and I’ve been teaching courses in assessment for decades as well.
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He didn’t answer the question because he is not about to turn away from testing. He is bought and paid for. This whole administration is funded by certain interests, and if he likes his check and has any further ambitions in the political arena, he will do what he has been purchased to do… implement Common Core, and create a whole world of customers for those that have been the largest donors to the Obama administration who in turn has put him in the position he has.
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Malloy has more to worry about than school security and trying to negotiate his guest Duncan around uncomfortable questions. Problems include undefined/unapproved teacher evaluation programs (the pilot program was rejected by many districts) and an underfunded pension (CT teachers do not participate in Social Security programs). There is a “perfect storm” brewing in the Constitution State: http://theeducatorsroom.com/2013/05/state-of-education-the-perfect-storm-connecticut/
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