In a scathing essay in TIME magazine, Leon Botstein, president of Bard College, lacerates the SAT.
The recently announced changes, he writes, are “too little, too late,” and are motivated mainly by the competition between the SAT and the ACT, which now tests more students than the SAT.
What Botstein makes clear is that the hoops and hurdles of the SAT are archaic and have little, if anything, to do with being well prepared for college.
He writes:
The SAT needs to be abandoned and replaced. The SAT has a status as a reliable measure of college readiness it does not deserve. The College Board has successfully marketed its exams to parents, students, colleges and universities as arbiters of educational standards. The nation actually needs fewer such exam schemes; they damage the high school curriculum and terrify both students and parents.
The blunt fact is that the SAT has never been a good predictor of academic achievement in college. High school grades adjusted to account for the curriculum and academic programs in the high school from which a student graduates are. The essential mechanism of the SAT, the multiple choice test question, is a bizarre relic of long outdated twentieth century social scientific assumptions and strategies. As every adult recognizes, knowing something or how to do something in real life is never defined by being able to choose a “right” answer from a set of possible answers (some of them intentionally misleading) put forward by faceless test designers who are rarely eminent experts. No scientist, engineer, writer, psychologist, artist, or physician—and certainly no scholar, and therefore no serious university faculty member—pursues his or her vocation by getting right answers from a set of prescribed alternatives that trivialize complexity and ambiguity.
The testing “experts” who write questions for the College Board or for Pearson or for McGraw Hill or for any of the other testing giants are seldom (if ever) scholars. The review process for the questions and answers is highly bureaucratic. And the scoring of the essays–which will now be abandoned on the SAT–are often done by people hired from Craig’s List and working for $11 an hour (or less). To learn more about the unsavory practices of the testing industry, read Todd Farley’s Making the Grades, which tells the sad story of the fifteen years he spent in that particular line of work.
Botstein goes on to criticize the value of the SAT:
First, despite the changes, these tests remain divorced from what is taught in high school and what ought to be taught in high school. Second, the test taker never really finds out whether he or she got any answer right or wrong and why. No baseball coach would train a team by accumulating an aggregate comparative numerical score of errors and well executed plays by each player, rating them, and then send them the results weeks later. When an error is committed it is immediately noted; the reasons are explained and the coach, at a moment in time close to the event, seeks to train the player how not to do it again.
What purpose is served by putting young people through an ordeal from which they learn nothing?
He ends on a hopeful note:
The time has come for colleges and universities to join together with the most innovative software designers to fundamentally reinvent a college entrance examination system.
I do not share his optimism. Since everyone, including David Coleman, the president of the College Board, agrees that high school grades say more about a student’s readiness for college than a one-shot college entrance examination, I doubt that even our most innovative software designers can come up with an examination that will mean more than reviewing students’ transcripts and other evidence of what they studied and how they showed their interests and commitments during their time in high school.
Competition to get into a prestigious college has grown incredibly fierce; going to the “right” college is seen as the key to a high-status occupation; the SAT and the ACT are not likely to give up their role as gatekeepers for these institutions; and as we know from ample research, the students who lose in this competition are those whose families lack the income, the connections, and the social status to compete. We are indeed in a testing quagmire. The best way to end it is if more and more colleges and universities go “test-optional,” that is, abandon the SAT and ACT as requirements for admission. This is one instance where the market might actually work, if the institutions are wise enough to take heed of the research on what matters most in picking their freshman class.

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What are your thoughts about this recent post by Diane Ravitch, Educational Historian?
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How will schools like Bard adjust high school grades to account fo the curriculum and academic programs in each individual high school?
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Wxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx In ‘my day’, [late ’60’s], SAT’s were merely (1) component considered by college admissions. The admissions essay (2) was also important. However, the key ingredient was (3)a good GPA earned from a solid curriculum taught at a good high school, supplemented by extracurricular activities demonstrating a ‘well-rounded’ experience. There was a common-sense understanding that test-taking was not necessarily indicative of a student’s ability to achieve academically. Admissions people made it their business to know the comparative values of GPA’s from the nation’s high schools.
That was well before the advent of SAT prep-courses & frequent re-taking of SAT’s (which have served to diminish the significance of SAT scores), & prior to the consequent over-emphasis on the essay, resulting in internet & tutorial guidance prepping, honing & polishing application essays to a fine point (likewise diminishing their significance).
Item (3) would appear to be holding its own, & I expect college admissions people have retained a handle on comparative rigor of the nation’s high schools.
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So the key would be to go to a high school that the admissions office respects. Sounds very good for folks at well known high schools. Less so for us folks in the part if the countryost fly over.
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The third component of your trio of requirements can be the most elusive for students whose parents are not well-to-do. This formula eliminates most students who dwell in urban communities and who do not attend private or test-in academic high schools. Since the high schools are failing to provide this, the students are already at a disadvantage. Once again, the formula will conspire to leave intelligent, intellectually curious lower class students behind. Colleges and educators need to put forth more creative energy into breaking the cycle and reward raw intelligence rather than affluence or cultural competency.
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With CCSS, the leveling to the lowest common non-scholarly fill in the bubble curriculum, lack of full instruction, and disconnected contents with close reading nonsense…over time, will make it easy for respected universities to avoid students from public schools, charter schools and ONLY select them from private institutions. US public schools will have come full circle in several decades. Thanks to the wisdom and greed of the undereducated super rich and the American Greed.
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H.A. Hurley: interesting point…
Another way that a two-tiered education system can be made to look natural and inevitable when it would be anything but.
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Today’s New York Times Magazine cover story is also about SAT.
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TE – like they already do! certain public schools have well deserved reputations for rigorous courses, and their students have cleared the way for those to come. knowing which schools have those curriculums is part of the admissions officer’s job (if that individual is any good at selecting top candidates).
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Not to mention other materials in the application dossier, like recommendation letters, essays, etc.
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It is the other material that makes testing the statement that standardized test scores do a bad job of predicting university achievement. I have a longer comment in another thread talking about this, but the short version is that the admissions office will only admit low standardized test score students if they have reason to believe that the test scores do not accurately reflect the student’s academic potential from the other material (though I would be curious to know what percentage of any admission essay is the actual work of the applicant). We never get to see the university grades of those with low test scores that the admission office think actually reflect the student’s academic ability because those students are not admitted in the first place.
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The advantage of the unrevised SAT was that the college got a copy of the essay. It might be the only unassisted sample of the applicant’s writing they would get. Scoring them was expensive. I bet the “best” colleges will still require that writing sample, but the College Board won’t have to hire as many scorers.
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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Harlan I do not quite follow: did the better colleges get a copy of the essay from the admissions application, or is that an SAT essay to which you refer? Either way, interesting point. I would agree a ‘better college’ would be loath to admit an applicant without an authentic writing sample.
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I think better colleges and universities admit students without a clarified writing sample all the time.
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One concern here is that SAT is highly correlated with income. Do you think a high school’s reputation for quality academics is any less correlated with income?
I come from a rural state in the middle of the country where the majority of high schools have fewer than 250 students. What sort of reputation do you think those high schools have on the coasts?
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TE – how many of those kids will even apply to schools on the coasts? and, if they do, i would bet the admissions officer would be very interested just because those students (if they have excellent grades…), would be great in regards to adding to the diversity of the campus. i do, however, still like the combination of grades, recommendations & SAT or Act score. of course, who will need these scores if common core tells us who’s college & career ready – NOT!
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Admissions officers might be interested because of geographic diversity, but you would have to weigh that against the lack of access to challenging course materials. The small rural schools in my state do not have AP classes, for example, and some excellent students have had trouble adjusting to the academic requirements of my institution, to say nothing of a place like MIT or Caltech.
I do agree with you that students should have a variety of opportunities to demonstrate academic promise.
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The AP is nothing more than an extreme metric, offered by the self-same College Board. It’s a false assumption that all AP courses represent challenging course work.
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Indeed, just like any other class there is no guarantee of quality. The exam gives some independent verification though. AP exams also give students from smaller schools the ability to demonstrate what they know without taking a class.
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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx Just a layperson here, but if I were an admissions officer, I’d take a close look at students fortunate enough to attend a small high school- particularly those who came up through the local system, which lends extra credence to faculty recommendations.
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I suppose teacher recomendations might get more weight, but exactly how do you evaluate the student who has been universally proclaimed to be the best student ever to come out of Deer Tick?
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Speaking of SAT, and Zombies, and nastiness….
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/reset/201403/mr-job-seeker-show-me-your-r-sum-and-sat-scores
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Well, it seems that McKinsey & Co. are doing it – that’s where David Coleman used to work!
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I fear for our educational system if college acceptance is based only on high school grades. I have two college students, but during their high school years I noticed that the best grades often were earned by students who were best able to regurgitate back information and who were good teacher pleasers, teacher pets if you will, pluggers, the ones who do what they are told no matter what — the jump-off-the-bridge-if-the-teacher-says-so types. The out-of-the box thinkers, the innovators, the weird gifted kids who seem out-of-step because they see beyond what is being taught, the kids who teachers resent and downgrade because they aren’t the grade-grubbers-they-were-in-school, etc. are some of the ones who will suffer. There’s nothing wrong with pluggers and I admire their persistence, but there is a problem when only pluggers are rewarded to the exclusion of those with high-flying potential. Even more so than today, kids will take classes to get the grades and not to learn or to expand their horizons. University populations will become less diverse. I see this already happening at my alma mater, a state university where the entrance requirement more and more is dependent on GPA. The fall 2014 freshman class has an AVERAGE GPA of 4.4. Yet I hear stories and see when I visit how the student body is becoming, in general, less interesting, less well-rounded, less active in student organizations, less aware of world issues, more focused on grade grubbing, more focused on short-term results and less focused on the future. In short, these students are not the movers and shakers of the world; they are narcissistic and care about one thing only — getting a grade. Maybe this could also be said about those who study for the SAT, but I’ve known kids who were bored to death in high school come alive for the SAT and nail it. The kids who have poor grades but high SAT scores sometimes are brilliant underachievers who are misunderstood in high school and just need to get to college to study what interests them. These are the kids who some day will make a name for not only themselves, but for the university that accepted them and allowed them to use their abilities. Some of our best thinkers who have contributed most to the world were not great always students — Stephen Hawking and Albert Einstein to name two.
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This is where teacher recommendation letters come in. Often teachers will see potential in a student that the tests and the GPA don’t pick up. Not all admissions departments consider teacher letters, but I think they should (even the big state schools).
You make some great points, but no matter how you characterize individual high school students, the SAT isn’t going to predict career success.The idea that grade-conscious students are less likely to do great work in the future while gifted underachievers have a better shot at changing the world just doesn’t hold up. In most fields, persistence is generally more important for success than either talent or academic attainment.
I’m with you on the whole idea of diversity among college students, and diversity on school faculties. This is one of the reasons I’m against setting high academic entry requirements (in terms of both test scores and GPA) for schools of education. Diversity is a must, in cognitive style and teaching style, if only because of the great diversity among students. Great administrators already know this.
That’s another reason why relying on standardization is a bad idea. Such schemes as the CCS and this new version of the SAT tend to encourage everyone to think the same way (i.e., like somebody’s half-baked version of the ideal knowledge worker). Not every student is going to be able to conform to the template, and well they shouldn’t!
I can’t remember the source, but one writer has made a good case for this predictor: People who keep a collection or pursue some other kind of hobby during childhood are far more likely to succeed in their work lives than those who don’t. This makes a lot of sense to me, but it could easily correlate to family income as much as the SAT does. Kids who don’t have the capacity to avidly pursue their interests are placed at a disadvantage.
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I disagree with some of your points, especially about the teacher recommendations. Many universities and colleges do not accept teacher recommendations any more because they are biased. Neither of my children were required to submit them with their university applications because the schools saw less value in them than in the SAT. No one ever submits a bad teacher recommendation, so many schools just don’t read them.
For quirky gifted kids, this is just as well. Too many teachers resent these students for personal reasons and don’t want to write recommendations for them even if the student deserves a good recommendation. Teachers often resent students who often don’t have to work as hard as they did in school or because these students don’t seem to try when the work is too easy, even though the student just doesn’t have to work as hard and no one is allowing the student to work at his or her level. One school district in Florida actually designed a gifted program where the gifted students are spread across the general population of students in regular classes with the only differentiation being that the gifted students are given extra test questions that have nothing to do with what was taught in the class. The students are supposed to guess what will be tested with no clues given beforehand, but are expected to know the answers just because they are “gifted.” Then when the gifted kids get lower grades on the tests, the teachers tell the kids, “well, you aren’t really gifted” and then use that as evidence that the children do not need a special program. Needless to say, the GPAs of these brilliant children are reduced and their spirits broken.
I have headed up two different advocacy groups for gifted education and I can tell you what gifted kids get in my state, despite gifted programming being state-mandated, is horrible. Accountability measures were implemented in the 1990’s and have been accelerated through the years to the point where the curricula has been narrowed tremendously and teachers are afraid to teach anything outside the prescribed grade-level scripted course material; too many gifted kids are languishing. Teachers do not write favorable recommendation letters for these kids, the same kids they teach and downgrade for not being able to deal with a low-level, slow, boring curriculum. Too many times I have seen teachers reward failing students who try hard for effort, but fail to give any credit to the gifted student because that student shows a lack of effort despite the teacher not providing that student with appropriate challenges.
I agree with you about not relying on a standardized test as the only measure of a student. I advocate against the annual state FCAT in Florida. That test is a low-level, poorly designed instrument that serves political purposes only. Students pass or fail based on a cut score decided by the DOE which is designed to show the public what the DOE wants to show. The high stakes nature of the test puts too much pressure on the average to low ability student. Parents and teachers are asking the state to put more reliance on a set of evaluation tools rather than one test. Although the state has standards that are assessed, there are too many standards to assess them all. Since FCAT questions are predictable, the metrics used to meet the overall education goal of students are reduced to the test questions. As Motorola employees who were subject to Six Sigma used to say before the company imploded, partially due to a too great emphasis on that accountability system, “be careful what you measure because the metrics become the goal.”
However, despite my dislike of the FCAT I do recognize that for gifted students the FCAT is often a savior because those kids usually do well on this test regardless of what is offered in the classroom. It is that difference that shows up between classroom performance and test results that indicate a problem exists. Unfortunately, in this age of accountability, most schools are not willing to address the issue of a curriculum being too low level to meet a gifted student’s needs. Similarly, the SAT also allows an admissions office to discover this same problem. The problem may not lie with the student being lazy, but simply with the school for not providing an appropriate curricula for a high level student. These are the students who need to be admitted to the university and who often do well once put in an appropriate environment. Overall statistics do not tell that story.
My overall position on the SAT is more nuanced and mixed than just being good or bad. I do not have a problem with using the old SAT, and in fact I like the idea of having a independent measure of a student separate from teacher evaluations through grades and letters of recommendation. Teachers, are, unfortunately, biased based on their own experiences and prejudices. The SAT may not in itself predict success, but it is just one tool in the box admissions offices can use. Parents and teachers resent using the FCAT as the only tool for measuring student achievement in k-12 education, so likewise why should GPA be the only measure for college? I know statistics show that GPA is a good predictor, but it is not 100% accurate and students who should be admitted to certain colleges are overlooked when only one measure is used. Since GPA would still be one of the tools, a school still could reject a student with a poor GPA, but at least the school might consider a student with a high SAT. Both measures can be influenced by outside forces — bias, family situation, poor school, student health, learning disabilities, etc. Why not give students the best chance possible to demonstrate their abilities?
The same criticisms of the FCAT and state high-stakes testing k-12 cannot be made of the old SAT. While both the SAT and the FCAT are used for student evaluation, the purpose of each evaluation is different. The FCAT, and similar tests nationwide, are used purportedly for student benefit — to see if students have learned the metrics and if they haven’t, to remediate the students. The SAT, however, makes no claim to be part of student’s education; it is only for university admission decision purposes; there is no post-test remediation or feed-back for teachers to address. The SAT is not for the students, it is for the admissions office. (However, if a student does poorly and wants to study for the test to remediate himself or herself, I have no problem with that. There are plenty of cheap materials available for all students to use, and frankly those materials are just as good as having an individual tutor; focused pluggers will get as much out of a Princeton Review taken out of the library for free as a child with an expensive individual tutor.)
Regardless, even for those who study for the SAT or ACT, there is only so much most students can improve a score. I’ve never seen too many get a huge bump. And if a student studies for the SAT and learns something, well what is wrong with that? I give more kudos to the student. That’s no different than studying for a high school test and learning something. When is learning something ever a bad thing?
The SAT used to be promoted as a test to gauge thinking ability, not fact regurgitation which is the reputation of the ACT. In changing the SAT, I hear that it will be more like the ACT and will reflect the Common Core standards. If true, then the College Board, through David Coleman, will virtually control our k-12 education curricula for college-bound kids, and I’m not convinced that is a good thing.
Gifted underachievers often come alive in college; these students are often identified through the SAT, at least through the old version that required more thinking ability than common core fact regurgitation. When placed in the right environment, which usually isn’t the traditional high school setting, these kids often become the persistent student. Gifted kids are usually tenacious when studying a subject they love. Another mark of gifted kids often is asynchronous development. While these kids may be able to process information at a level above the general population, they often lag behind in other areas such as emotional development, social development, physical development, etc. They often are subject to extreme sensitivities other populations don’t experience — see Dobrowski’s studies and the web site for SENG (Supporting the Emotional Needs of the Gifted http://www.sengifted.org.) These kids often mature late, but by college they are ready to move on in a more mature manner even though their past history may not give such an indication. Since by definition giftedness is only 2% of the population, and gifted underachievers number fewer than that, the success of these students in college probably doesn’t get tracked well when looking at overall success rates. I don’t think anyone can say that these kids won’t do well college. My point is, gifted students are very misunderstood by most high school teachers and by most people in general. While many think these kids are perfect, high achievers, they are very complex beings who think and learn differently and who often thrive in a post-secondary educational situation better than they do in a k-12 setting. Unfortunately, they can’t be identified by GPA alone or by teacher recommendations. Why limit college acceptance only to those who meet the narrow criteria of GPA? Why define success only by high GPA, especially when obtaining a high GPA means that a student simply jumped through standardized hoops? Universities should welcome those who think differently, who learn differently, who define success differently. To graduate from college only those who fit a narrow mold cheapens a value of a college education and does a disservice to our country; let’s let the creative, out-of-the-box thinkers, those who move beyond the common core metrics, benefit from the rigor of a post-secondary institution education.
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What you post about is certainly consistent with my experience.
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Jennifer and Teaching Economist: Thank you! Thank you! I tried to express this view on an earlier post and felt shut down by the person who responded. Colleges need several measures of student potential. Limiting data to only GPAs is as discriminatory as limiting data to only standardized tests. My son falls into the quirky, underachieving, gifted category. PLEASE don’t take away his chance at college admission because he cannot get organized or motivated enough to complete all his high school homework! In his own way, he tries every day and every night. It is hard on him and on us. His test scores are the reason he doesn’t lose his self-esteem.
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Jill,
The SAT isn’t a panacea, a magic pill, that will magically open college doors for your son and lead him to earn a valuable college degree. Once he’s in college, he has to do the work he isn’t doing now. The odds are high that he will be just another statistic of kids who started and dropped out never to finish college.
Even colleges that accept the SAT as one of the measurement tools for acceptance use other measurements to compare and accept students who are also competing. That means your son will be up against students who also score well on the SAT but who also have a higher GPA and ma even be scholar athletes.
In fact, is there any college, anywhere that only uses the SAT and nothing else to accept kids?
I think you put too much value in the SAT. I think your son may be a much better student than I was at his age and I managed to go to college without ever taking the SAT. After Vietnam and the Marines, I started at a local community college on the GI Bill, and they put me on probation due to my high school GPA, which was horrible. I earned my way off probation by learning to study and do the work. That first two years was hard because I had never worked like that before. I literally had to teach myself to be a student who paid attention, took notes, did homework, read the assignments and studied, something I never did in high school. Then after earning an AS degree, I was accepted to a four year college without any problem.
Although I never took the SAT, the SAT would never have taught me how to be a student. And even with a high SAT score, I’m sure that my GPA would have sunk me in competition with students who had similar or higher SAT scores and higher GPAs.
For instance, Stanford accepts about 7% of its applicants. With that level of competition, do you think a student with only a high SAT score but a lousy GPA signaling poor study skills is going to be moved to the head of the line.
Most colleges have a waiting list of students who hope to be accepted if someone from the few who were accepted opts out. If you put all your hopes into a SAT score to overcome his poor study habits, I think you will be very disappointed.
By the way, if you don’t mind, what is his academic GAP? If he isn’t into studying while in high school, why do you think he’ll change if he goes to college. Is it possible that going to college is more your goal than his?
Every year during the many years I taught ninth grade English at the high school, I asked my students how many planned to go to college. 99% raised their hands but more than 60% didn’t read books, do homework or study. They may have said they wanted to go to college but their study habits, no love of reading and lack of cooperation in the classroom said that few of them would go to college or finish. They were just raising their hands because it looked good.
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I think your interpretation of a low high school GPA as a signal of poor study skills might be incorrect. For some students, the mindlessness of the assignments can make it much more difficult to get through the work. My middle son, for example, had a much higher GPA in the university courses he took while in high school than he did in his high school classes.
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Maturity plays a roll in the difference between high school and a student’s college performance. And even then there’s the college drop out rate of students who couldn’t adjust to actually doing the work in really boring classes where attendance was not mandatory and the instructor could drop you without a law getting in the way.
From what I’ve read, almost half of college students drop out without graduating and half of those who remained made poor choices of major and ended up facing few job offers after graduation because there weren’t that many jobs in the field they majored in.
College professors are often not as skilled or trained as most public school teacher who never stop learning how to teach and how kids learn. How many college professors even take one class in how to teach let alone understand the different learning modalities?
There is absolutely little or no pressure on college professors to motivate students. In college, motivation is all on the student shoulders.
When I was teaching and working toward my MFA in literature/writing, I had few college instructors who were as skilled as public school teachers. Many of them were downright boring. They lectured endlessly while pacing in front of the class as us graduate students took endless notes. The methods were no different from when I was earning my BA in journalism.
I recall one professor who stopped his long lecture because a girl in the back was ignoring him and having a conversation. He embarrassed her in front of a packed room and dropped her from the class after telling her to get out. Then he enrolled one of the waiting students who was standing by the wall. Once that was done, he went back to his droning lecture of all the work we’d be doing. More work in one semester, than many high school kids do from 9th to 12th grade.
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I certainly agree that maturity plays a difference, but in my post i was comparing high school GPA to college GPA for college courses taken when still a high school student.
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Do you mean advanced placement classes and exams?
I understand that the number of AP classes a high school offers is usually based on the number of students who are capable of taking them and succeeding, and high schools mired in poverty usually don’t have a high ratio of kids that can succeed in AP classes so those schools don’t offer many.
Our daughter took a slew of those in high school. I didn’t. She took the SAT and her score was average or below average. All I remember is she wasn’t happy with the results of the SAT. I never took the SAT. She was a nervous wreck for days before she took the SAT.
I went to a state colleges, graduated and worked in industry for a few years before moving on to teaching for thirty.
Here’s what Stanford says about AP credit:
A maximum of 45 quarter units of Advanced Placement (AP), transfer credit, and/or other external credit (such as International Baccalaureate) may be applied toward the undergraduate degree. Note the following points regarding College Board AP credit:
Scores of 4 or 5 in a foreign language AP exam satisfy the Foreign Language requirement
AP examinations do not satisfy the General Education Requirements, with the exception of the University Foreign Language requirement.
AP credit may be removed from your record if subsequent Stanford course work duplicates AP credit course content.
AP credit may be applied as elective units toward graduation and toward the major if allowed by the major department.
Up to 10 units of credit per discipline is allowed for some of the AP exams
To request AP credit at Stanford, contact the College Board to request that your scores are sent to Stanford. The eligible AP credit is updated to your student record through an electronic process. If your AP credit does not appear within a month, bring a hard copy of your AP score report to the Student Services Center, 2nd Floor, Tresidder Union. For incoming freshman, AP credit is posted to your student record in mid-September.
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No, I mean 25 credit hours at our local university, 15 hours of lower division classes (freshman sophomore) including one honors class, 7 hours of upper division classes, and 3 at the graduate level. He of course took some AP classes (including one virtual class through K-12) as well, and based on those and independent work (two independent studies and some conversations with me along with a textbook), he scored a 5 on all 9 of the AP exams he took.
Stanford’s AP policy is not very different from most schools. It is unfortunate that Stanford does not accept transfer credit from incoming freshman. The admissions office was very clear about this.
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And what college is he planning to attend?
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He will graduate after three years at Chicago.
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He’s been in college for a year then?
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He is in his last year of college.
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Congratulations.
His last year and he did it in three. He must have gone to school year round and avoided taking summers off. Sounds like a young person who knows how to set goals and get things done.
What’s his major, if you don’t mind?
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Actually he did not go year round, just the typical three quarters a year. A combination of AP, placement, and typically four courses a quarter are enough.
His major is math. He finished the major requirements, with honors, in two years.
That is not really the point of this thread, however. I am just using him as an example of an alternative explanation for relatively low high school GPA: a poor fit between a student and the high school curriculum available to the student. The further a student is from the mainline student a high school is designed around, the more likely a poor fit is to be the explanation for a relatively low GPA. For students out of the mainline, standardized test scores like SAT, SAT 2, AP, AMC 10/12, AIME, etc can provide important insight into a students academic abilities.
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There are always exceptions. But how many students with low GPA benefit in long run from high SAT scores to get into a college?
It was my experience that grades are based more on classwork than tests or quizzes and kids who do the work and get it right usually do well with GPA. Again, there are exceptions. There are teachers who base grades heavily on quizzes and tests but how many are there compared to the whole? I knew a few who did this but most did not. I didn’t.
And more importantly, what do employers want, an employee who scores well on tests or one with a proven track record for showing up on time, setting goals and getting work done.
In addition, many highly skilled and trained public school teachers include critical thinking, problem solving and cooperative work in their assignments that’s also part of the GPA that a standardized test does not demonstrate.
Most higher paying, high skilled jobs require those skills.
The GPA represents grades earned from as many as 50 or more teachers from K to 12 (almost half of the teachers were in high school—a student may have six or more teachers a day for an hour at a time).
But the SAT test is based on a few hours sitting down and filling bubbles. Kids with better memory retention and the ability to access those memories usually do better but does that measure what most employers are looking for.
What’s even better is a high GPA and a high SAT score and then if a kid is a scholar athlete involved in many extracurricular activities while in high school, that’s even better.
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The further you are from a main stream student the more likely your high school GPA reflects your distance from the mainstream than your intellectual ability and work habits. Grades based more on classwork than grades and quizzes reward compliance more than learning. For some students the mindlessness of assignments is so intellectually taxing that the students can not deal with it. The constellation of standardized test scores, PSAT, SAT, SAT 2, AP, AMC 10/12, AIME, and USAMO can be very helpful in identifying those student for whom the single number between 0 and 4 is a poor indicator of academic potential.
I certainly agree that athletic prowess is a big advantage for college admission. I doubt Stanford would be competitive in many sports if they determined admission based only on academic potential.
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“For some students the mindlessness of assignments is so intellectually taxing that the students can not deal with it.”
I don’t agree. Assignments that require critical thinking and problem solving are not mindless when a student has trouble understanding them. It just means the student may not have the skills to deal with assignments at that level in that subject area.
Correct me if I’m wrong, but you did say your son was graduating this year with a math major, right? When someone has an interest and strength in math or the sciences they may not have a strength or interest in literature, art or history.
If math is where your son’s strength shines, then the SAT may not have been as important as his majoring in math because of the coming shortage of science, technology, engineering and math majors.
For instance, if there are 1,000 seats open for the college math major your son applied for but only 700 applied, then the odds strongly favor that he would be accepted regardless of his GPA and SAT scores as long as there was an indication that his strengths are in that specific area—the major he applied for.
http://content.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,2074024,00.html
An example: our daughters boyfriend is finishing his PhD in engineering and technology at Stanford and the government pays all of his tuition, room and board with a stipend included because of the major he’s in—due to projected shortages in his specific field. He designs and builds drones from scratch.
But high school is not like college. Graduation requirements mean a student must earn passing grades in English for all four years in addition to other academic classes. High school does not focus on one area like the last two years of college do.
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It may be the case that a research one university has a 16 year old high school senior taking a Ph.D. class because they have extra seats available due to a shortage of STEM majors, but that does not seem to be a likely explanation, does it?
It may also be the case that the University of Chicago has inadequate distribution requirements in the celebrated core, but they certainly think that the core requirements are extensive. Others might disagree.
Is it really that hard to believe that a curriculum designed around an “average” student is ill suited to students that are not average? I do think the difference is especially obvious in mathematics. How many of the best authors of the twentieth century do students read in an English class? Compare that to the number of twentieth century mathematicians are read in an a mathematics class. Did students in your high school do any mathematics that was less than 300 years old?
Students in mathematics are much more limited by the curriculum than English class.
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I didn’t teach math. Curriculum meetings were by department.
Your son is sixteen and he’s in his third year of college?!?
We did have Honors and AP classes in addition to the live TV lectures from a local college for students who signed up and could do the work.
Other than that, if the money isn’t there to support extra programs, the schools can’t do them. And right now from everything I’m reading, the states are starving the public schools.
The reality is that the schools can’t be everything to everybody. The money isn’t there and the law focuses on children with disabilities—creating more challenges to squeezed budgets.
There’s that old saying, the squeaky wheel gets the grease and the squeaky wheel in public ed for decades has been in support of kids with learning and physical disables—and very little for kids at the other end of the spectrum who probably would still be learning even if the teacher had been dead for a week and no one knew it yet.
We told our daughter that learning was her responsibility and it doesn’t matter if the teacher was boring or not. Pay attention. Do the work. No excuses. Ask questions and when needed take advantage of the teachers’ office hours before school, at lunch or after school ends. That’s what she did.
The problem in this country is that when kids aren’t getting whatever the parents want (grades, coursework, etc), most parents who aren’t Asian blame the teachers or the schools
The reason most Asian kids outperform all other racial groups is because in most Asian cultures the mother holds herself responsible if her child isn’t doing well in school and seldom if ever blames the teacher. And if our daughter came home with anything less than an A on an assignment instead of bad-mouthing the teacher and accusing them of being incompetent, she went to the school that same afternoon to meet with the teacher to find out what our daughter had to do to fix it. Two or three of those visits and our daughter made sure her mother would never have to do that again.
You get several Chinese mothers together who have school age kids, and the main topic is school and how their kids are doing. Get white, black or brown mothers together and for sure they aren’t talking about how or what their kids are doing in school—they’re probably talking about Dancing with the Stars or what some star wore to the Academy Awards.
At Gunn High in the Palo Alto Unified school district near Stanford, about half of the students are Chinese and the pressure on the public school teachers there is to challenge their kids and not boost their self-esteem and entertain them.
Look at the programs offered at Gunn High.
http://www.gunn.pausd.org/school-reports
http://www.gunn.pausd.org/school-reports
Kids learn fast. If teachers or the schools get all the blame, why try their best.
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About AP courses: The College Board does not dictate who may take them. Individual schools do. Some schools have an open policy–anyone may take AP courses. Some schools require students taking the course to take the exam. Some do not.
About AP exams: It is College Board policy that anyone may take AP exams. They do not have to take the course. In some states, ALL graduating seniors are REQUIRED to take the English Composition and Language exam. The exams demostrate that many are completely underprepared.
The syllabus audit and the exam scoring are handled by companies hired by the CB. They are two different companies.
Not all colleges have the same policies for AP. Many leave the policies up to the individual departments. Some colleges allot six credits to a student who takes on English exam and earns a 3 (a poor policy, in my opinion). Some will not give any credit at all. Some actually use the Advanced Placement as it was meant to be used: to place students in the correct course, not as a way to avoid taking essential foundation credits (that one’s an opinion).
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I think if you learned more about gifted students you might be surprised. It’s amazing how many teachers don’t understand these kids. Even when k-12 teachers think they have the best interest of the child at heart, too many inadvertently cause the issues that plague these students and then make assumptions about the students’ future and college performance that often don’t have any basis in reality. Gifted kids are a greatly misunderstood groups of students. Put these kids in an appropriate setting, which usually isn’t k-12, and they often soar. Too many people think they know what gifted means, but unless they make a point to learn about giftedness, are gifted themselves, or live with a gifted student, they rarely get it. Also, people reading these posts understand that the Ivies and Stanford are quite selective in their admissions processes. Using an elite school to make your argument is rather limiting when the discussion is about school admission policies in general and not just in the more extreme cases.
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What does taking the SAT have to do with gifted kids?
My son was considered gifted and so was his mother but both decided not to use those gifts or go to college. His mother worked as a bank teller and then secretary until she retired. Nothing wrong with that. She earned a living and paid the bills. A job is a job as long as it pays enough to survive.
Our son didn’t do well in high school. He was only interested in chorus and drama. He’s almost forty and has worked as a bartender and/or waiter since HS graduation. He never went to college or developed his gift, and he’s managed to survive too.
A high IQ; a gifted designation and/or getting a high score on the SAT is not a ticket to a successful life, fame and wealth.
However, a high GPA is an indicator that the student is disciplined and has the ability to fail and learn from that failure in addition to setting goals and carrying them out. Goal setters tend to be more successful in life than kids who were gifted, had high IQs or scored high on a SAT test.
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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx It’s important to keep in mind that the unconventional student will not necessarily thrive in a college setting where most are also ‘pluggers’ (just like in h.s.). You need to let them find a school with like minds.
I had kids who were unconventional learners, & not necessarily great test-takers either (very average SAT’s). IEP’s helped the GPA’s (as they did have excellent IQ’s, hampered by LD’s), but where my kids shone was thro artsy extra-curriculars (reflected in glowing faculty rec letters).
Mine ended up at “average” state colleges with coursework/ majors in their specialty areas. On the one hand, they way outshined their peers in areas their rigorous high schools had emphasized (e.g. communications esp. writing), which was great for the ego but made them wonder at first if they had underestimated themselves. But in their special areas of achievement– tech areas that don’t show up in GPA’s like music & arts tech– they at last found peers, competition, & formed networks that have helped in careers.
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Please see my reply to Randal Hendee above.
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But some colleges do ask for teacher recommendations just like some colleges don’t require a SAT/ACT for admissions submissions.
Stanford, for instance, asks for recommendations.
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Why do we need another test to replace the SAT. It is very clear that consistently, across the US (WITHOUT COMMON NATIONAL STANDARDS!) a student’s high school GPA is the best, most reliable predictor of college success. As William Hiss, author of the most recent peer-reviewed study on this issue, told me, both endeavors (high school and college) are long-distance races. So success in one long-distance race is a good indication of the work ethic and tenacity needed to be successful in the other. http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Lecker-A-crisis-of-low-standards-5298374.php
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Wency Lecker: thank you for all your efforts.
Re your comment: as I wrote in a recent response on this blog to deutsch29 [aka the redoubtable Dr. Merecedes Schneider]—
“deutsch29: as a numbers/stats person, what is the probability that the edufraud ideologues and accountabully underlings of the leading charterites/privatizers would come up with the cage busting achievement gap crushing twenty first century equivalent of reinventing the wheel as a square rather than round object?
And proclaim far and wide that they’ve improved on the original design?”
So when you already have a better [not perfect, by any means] measure that you want to replace with another more defective one, and $tudent $ucce$$ is at stake, doesn’t it make ₵ent¢ to plow full steam ahead?
NOT!
Really!
Not Rheeally!
Again, thank you for your comments.
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There’s no money to be made from GPA’s. And, using them would be trusting teachers’ judgements about their students. But when you start from the premise that teachers know nothing about assessment, the GPA’s predictive ability to measure student success must, perforce, be faulty.
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Christine Langhoff: exactly!
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Ahh, I met Botstein some 13 years ago up at Bard. He is a musician and a conductor among his other job, i.e. president if the college. Glad to see he’s taking on a leadership role outside of Bard.
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Profitable….
just like Common Core and SBAC and everything else that greedy people who care about money, not kids, keep coming up with!
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All state and national standardized multiple choice tests—the SAT, ACT and IQ tests, etc—are based on unproven theories that they measure something valuable. Then they use that measured assumption to pigeon-hole people and judge them.
A theory is an assumption. There’s an Oscar Wilde saying, a truism, about assumptions: “When you assume, u make an ass out of u and me.”
Helen DeGeneres put her own spin on that: “You should never assume. You know what happens when you assume. You make an ass out of you and me becasue that’s how it’s spelled.”
Forbes magazine did a piece on leadership back in November 2012.
“What do pollsters and generals who get things wrong have in common? They base their actions on faulty assumptions.” …
The conclusion says:
“There is another more human reason why we fail in our assumptions and it because a good assumption gives us comfort. It provides a sense of order and when it does we feel that we are safe in taking actions. But if those assumptions are proven wrong, then the trouble that ensues is often worse that nonaction.
“Assumptions will be made; it is up to leaders to question, probe and validate them before acting on them. Easy to say but hard sometimes to remember.”
http://www.forbes.com/sites/johnbaldoni/2012/11/26/oops-assumptions-can-make-an-ass-of-you-and-me/
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I remember Ralph Nader taking on the College Board and ETS many years ago. As usual, he was right. As usual, he didn’t get much support from mainstream political leaders.
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Botstein says: “The blunt fact is that the SAT has never been a good predictor of academic achievement in college. High school grades adjusted to account for the curriculum and academic programs in the high school from which a student graduates are.”
Help me understand the difference between SAT, HS grades & academic achievement in college. In my logical thinking and understanding, I correlate K-12 instruction/grades to SATs. Isn’t this the idea of common core which is to make kids college ready? So if a kid isn’t passing formative/summative assessments in K-12 which is all common core related which then determines HS grades as a result, then forget about achievement in college. This is another reason why I feel there is no reason to take the SAT. It’s redundant if it only serves as part of an college entry evaulation.
So how does “High school grades adjusted to account for the curriculum and academic programs in the high school from which a student graduates are,” as stated by Botstein? I need clarification, anyone?
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Jon,
Study after study shows that the best predictor of college success is high school grade point average, not the SAT or ACT.
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What predicts college success better, GPA + SAT/ACT, or GPA alone?
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Sorry, no cut-and-paste answer for that.
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The SAT and ACT weren’t designed to be “predictors.” They only measured preparation for college, which is NOT the same thing. These exams being touted as predictors or indicators of I.Q. or college success or career success have been lies perpetrated by the media and by “reformers.”
I will say it over and over until I am blue in the face. The lies about the SAT and ACT were exposed years ago by Biddle and Berliner in their outstanding book “The Manufactured Crisis.” They explained just how the tests came to be, and what they measured and what population students were being measured against. The book is still timely today.
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Check out “The Manufactured Crisis” from the library or get a copy of it. It was published in 1995, but this brilliant book needs to be read now. It exposed these tests for what they were and are.
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@Flerp:
Do you disagree then with Ravitch that we can measure how well high school GPA predicts college success, and how well the SAT/ACT predict college success? Or do you think that you can measure each of those individually but not together?
@susannunes:
You said “The SAT and ACT weren’t designed to be ‘predictors.’ They only measured preparation for college, which is NOT the same thing.” If you have a known quantity for college success (say, college GPA or graduation rate), then you can measure how well *anything* that is itself measurable predicts college success. You could measure how well “# of times a student clips his or her toenails per month” predicts college success, regardless of the obvious fact that toenail clipping is not designed to predict college success.
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xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx I think you are saying, if in theory kids are being taught to the common core, which in theory makes them college-ready, why wouldn’t GPA based on Common Core preclude the need for any further college-entry exam. In theory, that’s logical. But (a)there are no kids yet who have done common core for K-12 (& won’t be hopefully ever or at least not until about 2021), & (b)so far we have not seen any signs of assessments which actually measure achievement of standards set forth in common core.
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Correct.
On the other hand, HS kids will soon have GPAs based on CC instruction/assessments in the next couple of years (hopefully not). So will those GPAs be as good of a measure of college success as the GPAs of “yesterday”?
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Are high school GPAs meant to be a good measure of college preparation? At my local high school about half of the valedictorians do not qualify for admission to our state universities because they have not taken sufficiently academically challenging courses. This is not an error in advising, but a choice that these students make.
I should add that our state only uses unweighted GPA, and our out of state students have their GPA’s unweighted before they are considered for admission.
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Guess by now you’ve seen the cover story in today’s NYT Magazine section. David Coleman is painted to look like a benevolent altruist in his efforts to revamp the SATs. The people who left comments apparently see it otherwise. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/09/magazine/the-story-behind-the-sat-overhaul.html?ref=magazine&_r=0
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Hoaxes are frauds.
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Let the next race to the bottom for GPA inflation begin . . . now!
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My own limited perspective: When I was in high school and applying to colleges, I was very glad that someone like me from an obscure public high school in the middle of the country had something like the SAT as a way to score myself against the kids from Exeter and Andover and Dalton and et cetera. In retrospect, I’m not just glad, I’m grateful.
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Who cares? That’s not what the SAT measures, anyway. All it measures for is college preparation, not how smart you think you are.
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I cared.
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“cared” is past tense
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In what sense does the SAT measure “how smart you think you are”?
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Hi FLERP. Well, apparently Susan doesn’t care about you, but I do. And being from South Dakota, I also appreciated being able to see if my education compared to the snazzy East Coast schools. And my SAT score showed that it did. I cared and care. Past tense and present tense.
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Perhaps ones views about the merit of the tests depend a bit on location.
Those of us in big square states in the middle are concerned that admission officers are far more familiar with Scarsdale High and Thomas Jefferson High and New Trier High and Stuyvesant High than our small town high schools. My middle son applied to the most competitive schools in the country and the only university to accept him was the one in e middle of the country. I suspect that distance and attitudes had something to do with that decision, though his university also seems to be more favorably disposed to younger students.
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Another thing that needs to be tossed into the garbage can or completely boycotted by the nation’s colleges and universities are those idiotic “rankings” by US News and World Report and other publications. All those do is put more pressure on kids by their helicopter parents to shoehorn them into schools that may not be all that (like the Ivy League) or not a good fit but give parents bragging rights.
Years ago I used to read Peterson’s and Barron’s guides to colleges and universities. They would go into great detail about the colleges and so forth. They also labeled schools as to their “selectivity,” which doesn’t really mean anything if a school makes the conscious decision to limit enrollment in a freshman class. This somehow got perverted into something meaning these schools are the “best,” but that isn’t necessarily true. Lots and lots of young people don’t bother with “selective” schools anyway having nothing to do with grades but because of a desire to be close to home and friends and more suitable majors.
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The only thing that really makes me worry about the use of the SAT for college admissions is that US News and other ranking publications include average incoming SAT score as a factor in determining a school’s overall ranking. This creates an incentive for colleges to factor SAT into ranking even if it doesn’t actually matter for student quality, since (because the huge majority of people care a lot about the US News ranking of their college) colleges care a lot about their US News ranking.
That concern aside, I’m happy to let any college decide whether (and to what extent) to use SAT/ACT, If it really is useless, smart admissions offices would exploit this inefficiency to gain an edge in student quality.
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My concern is that averages tell candidates little about admission because they are not competing against all the other applicants, they are competing against other applicants with similar specialized skills. Football players and distance runners applying to Stanford do not need to worry about the median SAT or anything else for that matter. They only need worry about the qualifications of other football players and distance runners.
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When you realize the SAT/ACT aren’t measuring anything other than preparation (and in the above-mentioned Berliner and Biddle book, they even quote ETS, the original publisher/creator of the SAT saying as much) for college, there shouldn’t even be rankings based on this. The students are entirely self-selected anyway to take those tests. The tests merely give admissions officers a taste of what courses the students had in high school, or what they can recall from what they took in high school. They aren’t predictors of anything.
Lots and lots of us never even took those tests and went to college. Lots of us may not have finished college during the traditional age and went back, like I did. There are many factors involved in college success, and just because somebody is good there doesn’t mean they will “succeed” in life, whatever that is, especially given this terrible economy.
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After all of the comments about the SAT pro and con, it occurred to me that maybe some colleges don’t think the SAT/ACT is all that important and sure enough, here’s a link to the list:
Colleges and Universities That Do Not Use SAT/ACT Scores for Admitting Substantial Numbers of Students Into Bachelor Degree Programs
http://www.fairtest.org/university/optional
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My institution admits any instate student with a C average in a set of academic courses. The old admission standard was a high school diploma.
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Is your institution on the list?
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It is on the list.
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I saw a lot of good choices on that list. The SAT is not a necessity, a life or death thing.
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Botstein calls for a new generation of high-tech tests that will plumb reasoning, argumentation,etc skills. O happy day, Leon: behold the Smarter Balanced and PARCC tests! Give ’em a whirl. Botstein seems very Common Core-ish in general. He does not seem to care much for transmitting knowledge; it’s all about constructing arguments, etc.
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..at least that’s the impression I got from reading this article and the first third of his book Jefferson’s Children.
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This particular fraud has had a long and profitable run.
Time to end it.
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If only it were so…
But, probably not gonna happen…the SAT (and PSAT) and AP are “aligned” with Common Core….the train is leaving the station.
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It was my pleasure and privilege to spend the last 13 years of my career teaching at one of Boston’s “exam schools”, so-called because admission was based in large part on a score from the ISSE. (When I was a student, part of the admittance to these schools was a teacher’s recommendation – imagine how old I must be!) Unlike the other exam schools, however, our kids were 89% minorities, 66% English as a Second Language speakers, and the vast majority of them qualified for a free or reduced lunch. Many kids were undocumented. Exiles and refugees are drawn to the Boston area because of its reputation for its universities and hospitals, so when the Bosnian conflict broke out, we had both Serbs and Croats sharing a lunch table. Boston is home to the second largest Dominican population in the states; has a Haitian population to rival Miami’s; and a sizable Cape Verdean, Nigerian and Albanian presence as well. Diversity was well reflected in our school. (Of course, because SES tracks standardized test scores so well, the other exam schools with higher cut-off scores for acceptance were – and continue to be – whiter, wealthier, native-born English speakers.)
Naturally, a large number of our students were first in their families to attend high school and so college, especially American style college admissions, were mysteries. Advice on college was woven into the daily fabric of life in our classes as a continual reference point. Returning student visitors were compelled to recite their experiences, both positive and negative for the next group coming up. The question we were always gratified to hear answered in a positive way was: “Did you feel prepared?”
We imparted the information that there were about 48,000 colleges and universities in the U.S. and that each was different from one another. We emphasized that there was a college (including community college) to fit each student and encouraged kids to explore, which was much easier when internet access became more widespread.
The SAT did invoke fear and trembling, but we told kids that they didn’t want to apply to schools who would only judge them by a number; we helped them labor over essays, especially if they were optional, and we wrote teacher recommendations which pointed out the perseverance and tenacity which had gotten each student that far (those grit people have NOTHING on these kids!). We encouraged kids to go and meet with admissions officers (and paid out of our pockets for bus fare when needed). This worked well. The admissions officers knew the GPA’s reflected real work and the recommendations weren’t trumped up, but what cinched the deal was when they met our kids.
There was a period when we had a pipeline to some very selective schools with excellent financial aid – we sent about a dozen girls to Smith, kids were admitted to MIT several years in succession. One of my favorite kids turned down a full 4 year tuition offer to Bowdoin because he had never heard of it and thought it couldn’t be a “real” college.
When I hear the President’s proposal’s for higher education and ranking institutions of higher learning, I (to borrow Diane’s phrase) want to throw up. The colleges which accepted our kids would be penalized because these kids don’t finish in four years – they often have family responsibilities which mean they have to work, taking time off. They don’t earn large salaries – they’re interested in working towards social justice and giving back, not IB banking. Some of them even are Art History majors!
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Sorry to hear that a student turned down Bodwoin. Having graduated from a small liberal arts college, I have a great appreciation for the schools. A friend’s oldest son is going to graduate this spring from there. He plans on being a middle school science teacher.
I would not knock art history majors. One of my best students argued that economics and art history were perfect preparation for law school. She has did very well in law school and very well in practice.
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Here’s the crux of Leon Botstein’s Time magazine piece:
“The SAT is part hoax and part fraud…The College Board has successfully marketed its exams to parents, students, colleges and universities as arbiters of educational standards…The blunt fact is that the SAT has never been a good predictor of academic achievement…High school grades are…why do we remain addicted to the College Board’s near monopoly on tests? Why do they have an undue influence on college placement?”
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Leon Botstein wrote a thoughtful essay for Time magazine; one that is accurate.
Here, by contrast, is an essay in abject stupidity by Kathleen Parker, columnist at The Washington Post. In it, Parker claims the College Board’s changes to the SAT just “made the going easier.” She says that “rigorous standardized testing is more crucial than ever.” Yes…she gets paid (well) to write this drivel.
http://wapo.st/1oyNgK4
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While I agree with Botstein, please note that ETS does NOT hire people on Craigslist to score SATs. This is done by people with credentials. The College Board does not score any of the tests it markets–Educational Testing Service, a subcontractor, hires people to do that. My first thought on hearing that the essay was no longer mandatory was, “Now that they don’t need people to score the essays, will they reduce the price of the test?”
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I am concerned that this ends up being one more attack on boys. Many have written about how smart boys are not getting (or being given) grades at the same level as their test scores, and as a father of a boy I have seen cases in which this is a result of prejudice, either against boyish behavior in school, or simply that resulting from an unwillingness to recognize, for example, that a boy might indeed be a big reader. So if do yet more to reward the Straight A students (the apple polishers?), we may well be doing yet more to push boys and men out of our colleges and thus deprive them of intellectual and economic opportunities.
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