Everyone knew it would be a close election. Few anticipated Trump’s sweeping victory over Kamala Harris. The New York Times editorial board endorsed Kamala Harris. This is their next-day reaction.
American voters have made the choice to return Donald Trump to the White House, setting the nation on a precarious course that no one can fully foresee.
The founders of this country recognized the possibility that voters might someday elect an authoritarian leader and wrote safeguards into the Constitution, including powers granted to two other branches of government designed to be a check on a president who would bend and break laws to serve his own ends. And they enacted a set of rights — most crucially the First Amendment — for citizens to assemble, speak and protest against the words and actions of their leader.
Over the next four years, Americans must be cleareyed about the threat to the nation and its laws that will come from its 47th president and be prepared to exercise their rights in defense of the country and the people, laws, institutions and values that have kept it strong.
It can’t be ignored that millions of Americans voted for a candidate even some of his closest supporters acknowledge to be deeply flawed — convinced that he was more likely to change and fix what they regarded as the nation’s urgent problems: high prices, an infusion of immigrants, a porous southern border and economic policies that have flowed unequally through society. Some cast their votes out of a profound dissatisfaction with the status quo, politics or the state of American institutions more broadly.
Whatever drove this decision among these voters, however, all Americans should now be wary of an incoming Trump administration that is likely to put a top priority on amassing unchecked power and punishing its perceived enemies, both of which Mr. Trump has repeatedly vowed to do. All Americans, regardless of their party or politics, should insist that the fundamental pillars of the nation’s democracy — including constitutional checks and balances, fair-minded federal prosecutors and judges, an impartial election system and basic civil rights — be preserved against an assault that he has already begun and has said he would continue.
At this point, there can be no illusions about who Donald Trump is and how he intends to govern. He showed us in his first term and in the years after he left office that he has no respect for the law, let alone the values, norms and traditions of democracy. As he takes charge of the world’s most powerful state, he is transparently motivated only by the pursuit of power and the preservation of the cult of personality he has built around himself. These stark assessments are striking in part because they are held not just by his critics but also by those who served most closely with him.
We are a nation that has always emerged from a crucible with its ideals intact and often toughened and sharpened. The institutions of our government, hardened by nearly 250 years of disputation, turmoil, assassinations and wars, held firm when Mr. Trump assailed them four years ago. And Americans know how to counter Mr. Trump’s worst instincts — actions that were unjust, immoral or illegal — because they did so, over and over, during his first administration. Civil servants, members of Congress, members of his own party and people he appointed to high office often stood in the way of the former president’s plans, and other institutions of our society, including the free press and independent law enforcement agencies, held him accountable to the public.
Mr. Trump and his movement have all but taken over the Republican Party. Yet it is also important to remember that Mr. Trump can’t run for another term. From the day he enters the White House, he will be, in effect, a lame-duck president. The Constitution limits him to two terms. Congress has the power — and for some ambitious Republicans, perhaps the political incentive — to set a course away from Mr. Trump’s antidemocratic agenda, if it chooses to pursue it.
Governors and legislatures across the nation have spent months shoring up their state laws and Constitutions to protect civil rights and liberties, including access to reproductive and gender-affirming health care. Even states that voted overwhelmingly for Mr. Trump, including Kentucky, Ohio and Kansas, have rejected the most extreme positions on abortion. Other institutions of American civil society will play a crucial role in challenging the Trump administration in the courts, in our communities and in the protests that are sure to return.
The rest of the world, too, has no illusions about the leader who will soon again represent the United States on the world stage. The countries of the NATO alliance were shocked, during the first Trump administration, by his willingness to undermine that long and valuable partnership. But European nations, defying Mr. Trump’s predictions, not only came together with the United States in the face of Russia’s invasion of Ukraine but also expanded their ranks right up to Russia’s border.
For the Democratic Party, rear-guard action as the political opposition will not be enough. The party must also take a hard look at why it lost the election. It took too long to recognize that President Biden was not capable of running for a second term. It took too long to recognize that large swaths of their progressive agenda were alienating voters, including some of the most loyal supporters of their party. And Democrats have struggled for three elections now to settle on a persuasive message that resonates with Americans from both parties who have lost faith in the system — which pushed skeptical voters toward the more obviously disruptive figure, even though a large majority of Americans acknowledge his serious faults. If the Democrats are to effectively oppose Mr. Trump, it must be not just through resisting his worst impulses but also by offering a vision of what they would do to improve the lives of all Americans and respond to anxieties that people have about the direction of the country and how they would change it.
The test for members of this new Congress will begin soon after they take their oath. The president-elect has promised to surround himself in his second term with enablers prepared to pledge loyalty to him, who will be willing to do whatever he commands. But a president needs the Senate to approve many of those appointments. Senators can stop the most extreme or unqualified candidates from taking cabinet positions like defense secretary and attorney general, as well as seats on the Supreme Court and the federal bench. They can act to keep clearly unfit candidates from holding any powerful position. The Senate did that in 2020, when it blocked Mr. Trump’s attempts to seat unqualified people on the board of the Federal Reserve, and the chamber should not hesitate to do so again.
Perhaps the most important responsibility lies with all of those who will serve in a second Trump administration. Those he appoints as attorney general, as secretary of defense and to other top leadership roles should expect that he may ask them to carry out illegal acts or violate their oaths to the Constitution on his behalf, as he did in his first term. We urge them to recognize that whatever pledge of loyalty he may demand, their first loyalty is to their country. Standing up to Mr. Trump is possible, and it is the duty of every American public servant when appropriate.
But the final responsibility for ensuring the continuity of America’s enduring values lies with its voters. Those who supported Mr. Trump in this election should closely observe his conduct in office to see if it matches their hopes and expectations, and if it does not, they should make their disappointment known and cast votes in the 2026 midterms and in 2028 to put the country back on course. Those who opposed him should not hesitate to raise alarms when he abuses his power, and if he attempts to use government power to retaliate against critics, the world will be watching.
Benjamin Franklin famously admonished the American people that the nation was “a republic, if you can keep it.” Mr. Trump’s election poses a grave threat to that republic, but he will not determine the long-term fate of American democracy. That outcome remains in the hands of the American people. It is the work of the next four

Trump worries me greatly. But JD Vance, Elon Musk, Peter Thiel, and RFK Jr. worry me more.
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I agree. Trump may not live till the end of his term, due his rapidly progressing dementia, and then Vance will take over
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Hitler’s imp.
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A big loser of this election outcome is the mainstream media. They barely even pretended to be fair in their coverage of the presidential race. I have a low regard for Trump, but the media’s anti-Trump slant was way over-the-top even for me.
The MSM proved beyond all doubt that their problems go far beyond outrageous partisan slant – they are often outright corrupt. All political journalists in DC – ALL OF THEM – knew that Biden was too cognitively impaired to complete a second term in office. But they withheld that information from the public, the eventual consequence of which was the nomination of the politically weak Harris. The MSM’s corruption – their failure to do their basic job of informing the public about important news – has led to exactly what they fervently opposed: a second Trump term.
Alas, there will be no introspection among 99% of journalists, and the MSM will get even worse as the younger generations take full control.
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You can go pick up your check now, Jack. CBK
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If you are capable of a serious reply then try again.
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Read on, Jack. That was my SECOND reply after I read you joke of a note a second time.
In case you don’t get it, the con’s pattern is to head off voters’ critical consciousness even before they hear or see anything from the “other side.”
But don’t listen to me, Jack . . . I’m just a democrat doing my democratic rhetoric against poor-baby Trump and his parade of useful idiots. CBK
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Jack,
All of them ALSO know that Trump is too cognitively impaired to be in office.
And unlike Biden, Trump isn’t just cognitively impaired, but he is a convicted criminal, who incited an insurrection, led the birther movement, and preaches hate, racism and preaches “retribution” against his enemies.
But I guess you forgive Trump his cognitive impairment because you like all the other things?
Sorry, but the fact that people like what Trump is offering either means they share Trump’s values, or that they are misinformed about Trump’s values and don’t really share them.
Which is it? Do voters who elected Trump share his (and your own) values? Or are they misinformed about what his values are?
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NYC: The list is long . . . let us not forget he’s a diagnosed sociopath and convicted sexual predator. And he loves to blackmail everyone he can. My guess . . . and it’s only a guess, since that’s Trump’s own power venue . . . is that Jeffrey Epstein gave him pictures to blackmail people into silence who had attended his sex parties, like perhaps Congresspeople working on the impeachments, and even SCOTUS justices.
Ah, but that’s just fiction talking. I’m hoping for Trump having a case of the Broken Clock Syndrome–even a broken clock tells the right time twice a day. He could get lucky in international, national security situation. You never know.
Another talking head said he would self-destruct–it’s just a matter of time. We can all hope. CBK
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How about like an intelligent adult you respond to the actual critique. Did the MSM cover up Biden’s mental incompetence or did they not? Did that have negative or positive consequences for the election? Somehow you skip right over the substance of the statement. You are so brainwashed that you cannot even process information that doesn’t exactly conform with your “beliefs” and go right to insults and attacks. It is the a weak mind that cannot see and defend their position.
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and a man who fellated a microphone is a better candidate? A man who foments division and hatred?
The mainstream media sanewashed Trumpvand minimized his harmful rhetoric.
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I watched MSNBC almost every day. Those newscasters never sanewashed Trump.
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The main stream media should just abandon Trump. Big chunk of his power comes from his continuous exposure. Instead of analyzing his weaving or making fun of him, just ignore him.
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Mate,
It’s hard to ignore Trump.
Impossible.
He’s a malignant presence.
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He’s also going to be the president again. So it’s back to 24/7 Trump. Four years of this, if he can make it that long.
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I guess we’re just out of touch idiots who are in the minority now. If this many people support a maniac like this, then we must be missing something if we oppose him. Now they’ll have control of all 3 branches plus the Supreme Court, so let’s see how they will make America great again & fix all the problems that they claim to know how to fix. There will be no opposition & therefore no excuses for Republicans now. So proud to be an American!
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We are victims of our own naïveté. Americans are a lot more selfish and shortsighted than we could have ever known. It does us no good to point fingers at one another. We need to deal with our current reality and move forward.
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I think there is a simpler explanation for the Trump victory. America at its heart is still a settler colonial racist country!
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I don’t buy it Jack. You’re in their camp already, by choice? I don’t know.
Here’s the deal, as if you don’t already know:
Most of what was said about Trump came directly from HIS SPEECH AND ACTIONS, a daily firehose. No one had to “say bad things” about Trump. All journalists had to do was REPORT what Trump said and did. . . . And, lo and behold, pretty soon it began to be normalized.
So, what’s the problem? Part of it was/is a whole web of Orwellian news” organizations, like Murdoch and Musk, and so many of his enablers, deliberately confused the reality of Trump’s horrible behaviors with people who rightly complained from the “other side,” as you are doing above in your note. It’s a common divisive fascist ploy.
So that whenever anyone on that “other side” said anything “bad” about Trump, the Trump Firehose Fake Press jumped up right away, fists flying, and made sure it was interpreted as “just the bad rhetoric coming from the democrats.” This, while Trump mirrored and shot back at the writer/speaker the same complaints, even in the same words.
“Don’t listen to those democrats–it’s ALL just talk and none of it is true anyway.” And so, there goes truth. It becomes just a battle of personalities instead of civil discourse. Poor Trump, people treat him so bad, all that bad talk from those nasty democrats.
So, the voters turn off their hearing aid along with their brain ABOUT ANYTHING–and Trump gets insulated from criticism, from the get-go, and literally gets away with anything, because there is no truth to his horrible speech and actions (fill in with a very long list here, including that he is a felon. . . it’s just biased judges and the democrats’ political rhetoric, for instance, when they say he is a fascist and acts like a nazi; which, by the way, democrats should “tone down.”
So, if it’s “way over the top,” even for you, and if you are real, perhaps you should consider that you, too, have been lied to, conned, and scammed, like so many others who, if they really listened and paid attention to the evidence, we all wouldn’t be where we are today. And MY GOD, even the Supreme Court.
But the voters would not even listen to the best we had to offer from the arts, from our military, from scads of law professors and other Republicans, and so many others.
I have no sympathy any more for what, in fact, is a bunch of adult third-grader mentalities with mush for brains, aka: “garbage.” CBK
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Almost all political journalists deliberately withheld important information about Biden’s cognitive decline. That’s journalistic corruption – they were protecting him. Then when his cognitive state was obvious to all rational people – after the debate – most of those same journalists said either that it was just a bad night for him or the Democrats couldn’t push Biden out because the only feasible alternative – Harris – was too politically weak to beat Trump. Then when Harris became the default nominee because of Biden’s endorsement, those same journalists tried to persuade everyone that she was actually a great candidate: brilliant, “brat”, great on “vibes”, etc.
No way would Harris have been nominated in an open primary or if the Democratic convention delegates had debated on the nominee at the convention and then voted. In all likelihood, a stronger Democratic nominee would have beaten Trump. The MSM’s corruption was an in-kind campaign contribution to Trump.
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Jack . . . give it up. And crawl back under your rock, in the dark, where you need think of nothing.
BTW, I think Kamala is wonderful and, with that resume, probably would have won for it not for misogynists and people whose brains are as good as new. I hear there’s a drug for that, btw. CBK
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CK,
You just demean yourself with your childish insults. You act just like Trump does. That is so typical of this blog.
I did not vote for Trump, and I have been very critical of him online and in private conversations. And I’ll happily compare my intellect and my professional accomplishments with you any time you please.
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Jack: Admit it–if you are a real person and if what you say about yourself and Trump is true, then you’ve been scammed by the con man of the century . . . no . . . TWO centuries.
You notes remind me of a corrupt referee at a football game–calling every foul . . . for only one team. CBK
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Jack: Tra-la. CBK
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CK,
Why do you feel the need to personally attack me? I voted for Harris; my observations about her as a candidate have been said by many other writers who also supported her.
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Jack: Glad to hear it. The con leads people, especially one’s with defensive preset agendas, right down the path to “what-about-ism.”
Do I need to rewrite my notes? CBK
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Jack,
Again, it is a fact that people voted for Trump after Trump ran a campaign focusing entirely on hate, aggression, scapegoating, flouting the rule of law. And, this is the guy that voters already knew led the birther movement and incited a violent insurrection.
And Trump is easily as cognitively unfit as Biden, if not significantly more.
The NYT treated Biden and Trump very differently. They told voters in every story that Biden was too cognitively unfit to be president. Period. They pushed a narrative that every Dem wanted him to step down because he was too cognitively unfit to be president.
They told voters that Trump may be cognitively unfit, but what was newsworthy was that so many very good people who cared so much about making America great still wanted him to be president.
Apparent a majority of Americans WANT a president with a long history of racism and conning people, who ran a campaign based entirely on anger, in which he lied and lied and lied, often to demonize the most vulnerable people.
That’s the bottom line. There isn’t much that can be done about that, especially with the Republican efforts to make sure that the people who want that kind of president can vote and those who don’t should have as many barriers as possible stand in their way.
But it’s long past time for people to stop making excuses for folks who voted for a racist con man who promised hate and retribution.
Germany knew this. They didn’t teach about how very good people who weren’t antisemitic at all voted for Hitler because they liked one of his policies.
They taught that when you vote for someone because YOU DON’T CARE about that person spewing hate and violence (because it will affect other people, not you) you are complicit. Not a “very good person who just wanted to make Germany strong again.”
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NYC: I’d also like to see something done (I don’t know what (but lawfully) about a huge problem that I think cannot be overlooked after this election.
You rightly chastise those who sit on the sidelines but who are also responsible for how they vote. But I think the press (like Fox) shares in the complicity in the case of this just-past election. There should be some way to hold them to account for their egregious lies, distractions, and omissions and their careless and contemptuous manipulation of the people who trust them to be an actual news organization, with journalistic principles, who try to tell the relevant truth and that, together with the utter ignorance of voters that the help bring about, brought this upon the rest of the nation.
I am seething about having our lives turned upside down like we know is going to happen. I just read where the sciences in several countries are bracing for the fallout from this unnecessary, embarrassing, painful, and dangerous event in our country.
If we’ve come to the point where one or two people (Murdoch, Musk, etc.) can be so dangerous and, on a whim, cause such damage to entire countries and cultures, then something needs to be done with the power that still rests in the hands of well-founded people. If they cannot adhere to principle, then they need to be prevented.
We know from the lawsuits that Fox underwent with the voting machine people–and lost–because we heard and saw court filings about what they knew and when, and still lied and misled everyone for the most self-serving of reasons.
Democracy is not necessarily a suicide pack. CBK
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CBK,
Read how the NYT presents the very good people who voted for Trump:
“It can’t be ignored that millions of Americans voted for a candidate
even some of his closest supporters acknowledge to be deeply flawed — convinced that he was more likely to change and fix what they regarded as the nation’s urgent problems: high prices, an infusion of immigrants, a porous southern border and economic policies that have flowed unequally through society. Some cast their votes out of a profound dissatisfaction with the status quo, politics or the state of American institutions more broadly.“
Notice how “deeply flawed” (which is similar to how the NYT described HRC and Biden and Gore and Kerry and Kamala) does A LOT of heavy lifting here.
The NYT did NOT write:
“It can’t be ignored that millions of Americans voted for a Constitution-spurning authoritarian-loving candidate
even some of his closest supporters acknowledge was morally unfit — convinced that a candidate spewing racist epithets and encouraging hate and violence and promising retribution to Americans who didn’t vote for him was more likely to change and fix what they regarded as the nation’s urgent problems: high prices, an infusion of immigrants, a porous southern border and economic policies that have flowed unequally through society. None of those voters cared that Trump offered only vague “plans” – they cast their votes for a billionaire racist authoritarian and offered up this unlikely reason: that it was out of a profound dissatisfaction with the status quo, politics or the state of American institutions more broadly.“
Here is the absolute truth: There are MANY voters who are dissatisfied with the status quo. Most of us are. We DON’T vote for immoral authoritarians who preach hate and violence.
The ones with a moral compass worked to defeat Trump.
The ones who liked the man spewing racism and hate and violence and promising retribution shared Trump’s values and they voted for him.
The fact that the NYT believes that the only voters who matter are Trump voters, and presents them as caring folks who only want to make America great again?
That is exactly the false narrative that was rejected when Germany took stock after Hitler’s defeat.
But the NYT abandoned the norms of journalism a long time ago. If you don’t say that there are many good people who voted for Hitler, you just are too anti-Hitler and the anti-Hitler bias of NYT journalists is something they must work very hard to overcome, as they must be careful not to give the public the impression that Hitler supporters were not very good people.
And to show they aren’t “biased” against a morally unfit liar, they must be careful to push the narrative that very good people vote for him.
But the problem is that the existence of millions of voters who ALSO care about all of those issues but they know that it is morally unacceptable to vote for a man like Trump.
The NYT has a name for us, too, and they used it many times today.
“elites”
Kamala is an “elite” and Trump isn’t.
Just once I wish that a NYT reporter was actually forced to define the term “elite”.
It seems to be defined as “everyone who challenges the lies of Trump”
And therein lies the problem.
We are all “elites”, from AOC to union teachers to the wide range of everyday folks I saw coming out for Kamala and the many regular folks who knew it was wrong to vote for Trump.
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NYC: I stopped my NYT. But nothing surprises me anymore since Scotus fell on its face. But all that I hear about or from Trump voters screams of misinformation. I thought it was priceless that a higher up in Australia was being interviewed on MSNBC about the problems with our election . . . . such irony . . . . didn’t they throw out Murdoch before he came here? CBK
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Jack you will never convince this crowd, they want to be deluded. They Contributed to hiding Biden’s dementia and DENIED it! No one on this blog will admit responsibility. I’m conservative so, naturally they hate me. It has been racist, transphobe, misogynist, NAZI, homophobe, etc. For eight years!!! The projection and lies on the left is unbelievable.
Democrats are incapable of uniting the country. They don’t want to.
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jacquilinehardt5598: Oh, now I get it. We need to unify around Trump, who happens to be a “racist, transphobe, misogynist, NAZI, homophobe” as well as a liar, cheater, a totalitarian sociopath and a wannabe dictator.
Oh gosh, Jacq, I must be projecting AGAIN! What’s a woke leftie to do?
How about Steve Bannon. Am I wrong about him also? Or did I hear HIM talking about wanting to dismantle the administrative state and so send the entire nation into chaos? . . . . Oh, no, it must be me!
Okay hmmmm . . . let’s do Stephen Miller–nope, I only see in him as my own need to separate little children from their mothers! God, this is awful!
One more time . . . how about, . . . . oh well, the list is so long and my own projection keeps taking me down a horrible rabbit hole where I hate and want to kill everyone who doesn’t agree with me!
Thanks, J, I’ll go back in my closet of mental problems–for a minute, I thought it was YOU who was projecting. What’s wrong with me! CBK
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The people are incapable of self-reflection.
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Jacq: Unlike you, who is becoming my beloved mentor (even if you don’t want to), I’m incapable of self-reflection. Sheesh. OKay, . . . got me.
Well, then, I want SO MUCH for you to like me, so how about a little poem based on my defugalties? Here it is:
I want so much to be like you,
But it’s the locked-in goosesteps I just can’t do.
How’s that? Oh, well . . . back to my woke drawing board. CBK
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Jacquiline: I want to keep following your notes. Are you going to have a job when they shut down the press and blogs like this one? CBK
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Jacqueline writes: The “people are incapable of self-reflection.”
. . . and now they have chosen leadership they can trust to do their thinking for them. I’ll go get the popcorn. CBK
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Jack, you have not outlined your reasons for calling Harris a weak candidate. Most of the narrative that is being pushed about her electability stems from the premise that she was relatively unknown. She is the vice-president of the United States. If she is unknown, then people are living under a rock and deserve to be beaten down by a Trump administration that likes the uneducated.
If you perceive her as weak for her record, provide the records of those you think are better candidates who would have left her in the dust if she were in the primary. Comparatively, she was as strong as, if not stronger than, others in the party considering she was in a better position to understand the job.
I’m not going to hold my breath that evidence will be provided, however, I will take the position that people did not want a woman, especially a woman of color, to lead this country because they don’t trust women to lead. Women have to amass far more credentials than men to even be considered on the same playing field, let alone be brilliant, passionate, and ideologically strong in their policies toward governance. She was just seen as “not good enough” despite her long list of accomplishments in public service. It’s not surprising that the majority of people saying Harris was weak are either men or women who bow down to the patriarchy. We have a problem in this country—we can’t shake the status quo that states “a strong man will save us.” Exhibit A: A male felon and known narcissistic liar was the more popular choice. His platitudes, insults and lack of detail showed a weakness in governance prowess while Harris had solid policy plans. Differences in ideology aside, her platform showed she was a better candidate for the American people, but darn it—she is a woman so she just isn’t good enough, right?
BTW, Biden has always stuttered which takes a considerable amount of cognitive energy to control. Most people would not even attempt the public spotlight with that disability. His mind is still sharp and while his gait and speech may have slowed, his cognitive competence is still on the level. His vast and storied experience informs his perception, and I would not want anyone else in charge of this country after an abomination like Trump 45. Biden set us on the right path while preventing further damage. He never got to finish the job because of ageism and optics. We have all lost because of it. I supported Harris because she had a strong and successful background in public service—people can nitpick one or two past decisions while ignoring the thousands of good decisions all they want (they would still be foolish)—and she had a wonderful mentor in Biden. Not many people can say they learned from one of the best presidents we have ever had. Too bad we were too short-sighted to keep either one of them in the executive branch. A majority of voters missed the mark, and we will all suffer greatly.
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Two things: First, On the Gaetz nomination and second on the Musk-starlink speculation about stealing the election:
On the Gaetz Nomination
Though the vomit in my mouth comment was a bit over the top, I laughed out loud several times yesterday watching the reactions of the House members and others to the Gaetz nomination.
Then I think of that quote (paraphrased), ” . . . when they came for x, . . . when they came for me . . . .”
Trump is coming for his own GOP members who cross him, to eat them alive. They already crossed him on the Thune election (they could do that because it probably came through Musk). If they cross him on the Gaetz nomination, he will go after them in person-appropriate ways. I would be happy but surprised if Trump is not already threatening them all and they all show up later with really plausible arguments about why Gaetz is a good nomination.
But it’s not about Trump’s ignorance but rather about his planning—putting people in offices who can only destroy the institutions they are supposed to lead. No sane person can say he was not elected because of the big lie and the breach of trust that’s been going on for years, and that the big lie was perpetrated ad nauseum by Fox et al. Buyers’ remorse is next up.
Also, this is from that Guardian article someone here linked to earlier:
“And my friends in other countries know exactly where this leads.“
Maria Ressa, the Filipino journalist. Photograph: Alecs Ongcal/The Guardian
“Another message arrives from Maria Ressa, the Nobel prize-winning Filipino journalist. In the Philippines, the government is modelled on the US one and she writes about what happened when President Duterte controlled all three branches of it. ‘It took six months after he took office for our institutions to crumble.’ And then she was arrested.”
Trump is working right out of the fascist playbook and wants “our institutions to crumble.”
ON Stealing the Election: The other thing is about the chatter concerning Trump having stolen the election by moving votes around—via “the little secret,” which . . . speculating, is Musk and his Starlink technology. Interesting to think about but not verified.
However, I wonder about the “big payoff” for Musk in the transactional deal between Trump and Musk. Trump has severely humiliated Musk after getting scads of money and X coverage from him. But how vindictive is Musk? If Musk understands the depth of Trump’s put-down from yesterday, and if he did have a technical hand in stealing the election, then, he “has something” on Trump that could put the whole election in a tailspin. He would have the evidence himself of how it went down. If not, then he’s under the bus and probably will stay there: “He won’t go home . . . I can’t get rid of him.”
My friend in Europe says at least Trump has a sense of humor about his choices of cabinet leaders, it’s not a sense of humor Trump has. It’s a fascist plan that is nothing new at all. CBK
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I do not, today, have confidence that our Constitution will protect us or that it will be upheld. Maybe tomorrow, I will but not today.
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I’m with you, Ned. Trump is very well aware that any mechanism to subvert his riding roughshod over the Constitution is under his control. He has all three branches of government, and he has learned how to string out litigation forever. Plus, now he will have absolute immunity for his actions. What’s to stop him?
Protest? Arrest us for disturbing the peace or accuse us of rioting. Use the military to disband us.
Are we suppose to hope that there are some good actors among the Republicans? Why should we hope that? The honorable ones have resigned and/or have actively protested against another Trump presidency.
Medicare and Medicaid, Social Security, Affordable Care Act,…SOCIALISM! Of course, under that definition so is anything we pay for as a community. Libraries, schools, police, fire, public health… anything Trump’s one percent enablers can buy for themselves is on the chopping block. After all, none of this is in the Constitution for our originalist justices. But if you want an AK47, hey, have at it.
Do I sound a little bitter and betrayed? You better believe it. And I’m a white woman. Why, he promised to take care of me.
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Anyone notice that no one is talking about the election being stolen anymore?
No one wants the votes hand-counted the way they were in 2020.
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NYC: They are not talking about the election being stolen because they stole it back. Who cares that it wasn’t stolen in the first place.
I’m really afraid that that old health thing that “got” Elvis will get Trump. But, no to worry. We’ve always got Vance to bring youth and vigor and political excellence to keep the stars in the sky bright as ever. CBK
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How could two sentences be so right… and so horribly wrong? “[H]e will not determine the long-term fate of American democracy. That outcome remains in the hands of the American people.” Yes, trump will not determine that future. The malefactors of great wealth who stand behind him, mostly in the shadows, will.
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The people who voted for Trump because they didn’t care if Trump undermined democracy already determined our fate. They are joined with the people who didn’t vote for Kamala because they believed that having Trump and Vance in office with complete power was acceptable, but voting for Kamala was not.
The rest of us – all the people who worked to have a different fate – can only credit all of them for the outcome. They either bought Trump and own him, or they chose to undermine his opponent (but supposedly didn’t vote for him) and they own him. At least they got their 2nd best outcome – Trump who promises to enact the retribution on the Democrats that makes them so happy.
How much do you want to bet that their faux concern for what’s happening in Gaza ended as fast as their faux concern for the Afghani women? Or as fast as Trump’s faux concern about “voter fraud” ended.
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Trump said things that would have demolished and destroyed any other politician’s career for all eternity and beyond. I have no idea how he gets away with all the baloney and balderdash that he spouts on a regular basis. Harris ran a good campaign and she ran as a centrist not some far left ideologue. Did a lot of Democrats and independents not vote because of the war in Gaza and the support for Israel? Maybe. Four years of political hell ahead of us, ugh. Musk and RFK Jr. will have the run of the White House, yikes.
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I want to know where all the voters who turned out in 2020 went. The total vote count as of this morning is almost 20 million less than the final count in 2020.
Trump won in 2024, with a smaller total then he lost with in 2020. A gap of millions.
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I find it hard to believe that some 15 million voters did not understand the assignment.
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If the numbers dropped spread across the states by a similar ratio, that should set off alarms.
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Christine, there was an assignment only in the 7 swing states.
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That’s kind of worse. Did they put all the kids who don’t test well in the same class?
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People didn’t have a great motivation to vote in non-swing states. I almost didn’t vote, since I am a TN resident, and I hate to feel that my voice is not heard due the mindlessness of the electoral college, but we had a gun control item on the ballot in Memphis which needed my tick.
I think they should stop showing the result of the popular vote; it’s irritating to see.
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I get it
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”. . .large swaths of their progressive agenda were alienating voters . . .”
I’d like some clarity on this statement because my first instinct is that it’s saying the party needs to be more like the Republican party.
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Trump’s ads focused on trans issues to attack Democrats.
The trans population is tiny, perhaps 1%. That makes them an easy target.
It seems to that issues of trans kids should be resolved by doctors and parents, not legislators.
I go not consider that to be a “progressive agenda.” I consider it to be an issue that simply should not be political. It should be private.
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i already have a trans student scared for his safety.
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Diane: IN MODERATION. CBK
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Well Ben apparently we can’t keep it.
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Pretty words, almost all of them useless and/or false.
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Please stop its not Trump. He is merely a reflection of the vile scum who elected him. There are no socioeconomic factors tt to explain the depravity of those that voted for him. The rewarding part of the situation is that his working class supporters will suffer along with the rest of us.
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Most will suffer. A few who are already filthy rich will profit. The convicted rapist, fraud and felon will probably profit the most. In four years, this time the malignant narcissist, lifeline cheat and serial liar may leave wealthier than Elon Musk.
The fascist’s MAGA’s propaganda machine, like FOX News, will blame liberals and immigrants. As usual. It seems to al ways work.
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Joel,
What do you think of this?
Twitter:
@Strandjunker:
2020
Biden: 81 million votes
Trump: 74 million votes
2024
Trump: 71 million votes
Harris: 66 million votes
These numbers do not match up with either the empty Trump rallies or the packed Harris rallies, and she should definitely not too quickly concede.
The numbers are indeed anomalous, and where there’s an anomaly, there are shenanigans afoot.
2004 Kerry – 59M
2008 Obama – 69.5M
2012 Obama – 65.9M
2016 Clinton – 65.9M
**2020 Biden – 81.3M **
2024 Harris – 66.4M
Trump won with fewer votes than in 2020.
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The numbers are indeed anomalous,
Well, Trump did say many times that voting is rigged all over the country. Maybe he knew something we didn’t, and this time he did tell the truth.
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By those numbers, 2020 is the anomaly.
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If you’re sincerely interested in why the turnout was so low for Harris this year, this individual gives you multiple reasons. But you didn’t listen then, so I have no hope that you’ll listen now.
https://x.com/KreelanWarrior/status/1854193528810676698
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“dianeravitch
I think the Democrats are more than capable of picking up fraud in the Tabulation.
In 2020 many states made it easier to vote by mail and encouraged voting by mail which brought voter participation way past recent norms.
But why go to conspiracy theories when the answer is smacking you in the face
1 in 5 polling places has been closed in recent years and we know where they are!
That is the real voter fraud. Although early voting on Long Island had rather long lines I have never waited more than 15 minutes at my polling place. I voted early for the first time. But I am told election day the polls were fairly empty out here. If I had to wait up to 5 hours on a line (without water ) I would move to Portugal and say to hell with it all.
But lets hear the real reason Kamala lost Morning Blow tells us why: it was Transsexuals competing against our daughters in HS that White and Hispanic men. And Democrats were afraid to answer and offend .
Offend who?
“Save Women’s Sports, an organization advocating for banning transgender athletes from competing in girls’ sports, identified only five transgender athletes competing on girls’ teams in school sports for grades K through 12.”
That is pathetic. There 3.4 million players . Would it be offensive to say that any voter who was concerned about this issue had his or her brains up their …
If it was a failure to offend it was a failure to offend those Homophobic Morons.
“Its all about the hate ” and lets not pretend otherwise. Trump took the Band aide off the festering scab . The only good Germans wound up in Camps !
There is no socioeconomic reason to explain the vote.
You would not know it from the bad news media including the NYT . But real (Inflation adjusted ) gross median (at the 50% mark ) weekly wages in2023 were higher. than in 2019. Now I get that not everyone neatly fits into a statistical model . And that 50% was not earning as much . How much less is a different story. A large percentage may have been doing almost as well.
I also get that doing better than 2019 when Trump says it was wonderful . Does not mean you are doing well. But you are not doing worse.
This piece from EPI shows the increase in wages adjusted for inflation and breaks it down to income deciles . It is the bottom 80% of earners who saw the largest increase in earnings . While the top 10% who earn the most don’t need it .
https://www.epi.org/publication/swa-wages-2023/
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These numbers are creeping up. Trump is now at almost 73 million, and Harris is at 68 million.
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Trump voters should closely observe his conduct in office? That is hilarious. They can barely get their knuckles off the ground
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“It took too long to recognize that large swaths of their progressive agenda were alienating voters, including some of the most loyal supporters of their party.“
What a load of crap. Half of the US population elects a convicted criminal, but we, the good and honorable half, are the ones who are supposed search our souls, and find ways to understand why or how Trump voters lost their moral compass? These so called “experts” in their nutty “analysis” now try to guilt trip democrats and are making excuses for MAGA members for bringing the wrath of their cult leader to the World. No, there are no excuses in sight.
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The Democratic Party is certainly under no legal obligation to try to find ways to extend its appeal beyond the people who voted for them this election.
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FLERP: Wake me up when you say something worth remembering? CBK
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I’ll let you keep sleeping.
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So do tell us what it is you recommend.
Please remember, I am the disgruntled Blue collar worker . Of course this Snow flake probably has a different perspective than a Trumptard. But have at it ,I would love to hear your suggestions.
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Fair question because talk is cheap. Of course you are not the voter that the Dems need to attract because you, like I, will literally come out to vote for any Dem with a pulse if the alternative is someone like Trump.
But I would say Dems need to do two things simultaneously. On the one hand, they need to stop leaning into identity politics and cultural issues that are not broadly popular. That means don’t talk about how trans women are women. Don’t talk about how America is systemically racist. Don’t support affirmative action. Don’t talk about toxic masculinity or highly suspect stats about how women only earn x cents for every dollar men make. When Republicans highlight TikTok videos that show elementary school teachers talking about how they’re teaching students about the crucial distinction between sex and gender identity, don’t have your first instinct be to defend the teacher or deny that it happened. This is the era of social media. Recognize the power of memes that you cannot control. Cultural stuff can be worth fighting for. But a lot of cultural stuff is marginal and should be treated as such. This is politics, not civil rights activism. Politics is about winning so you can enact better policy.
This first part is not just switch that can be flipped unfortunately because this stuff is deeply embedded in the Dem brand at this point. It might take decades. The Dems will move in that direction ultimately whether they want to or not because that is the way our culture is moving.
On the other hand is the positive stuff. You have to give voters a concrete reason to vote for you, something that they think will benefit them. This is tricky because we don’t have unlimited money, and even if you do this part fairly well, it can be drowned out because of the cultural stuff. I personally loathe the DSA and what I call the dirtbag left, and I think they should be marginalized at all moments by the Democratic Party. That said, someone like Bernie Sanders (who I do not loathe) was pretty effective at this in his presidential runs. He also had the benefit of being very smart and very authentic. You never got the sense with Bernie that he was reading talking points provided by his aides, or that he was afraid of engaging directly on any issue. And for the most part, Bernie didn’t get too caught up in social justice politics (for which he was hated by many). Contrast that with Harris and her infamous “we will follow the law” non-answer or her studious refusal to take a position on California’s Prop 36 (increasing punishments for certain drug and theft crimes and requiring jail for offenders who don’t complete drug treatment), which apparently she found too risky to do and which ultimately won with 70% of the vote in California.
Above all, when you are an elderly and frail President elected at nearly 80 years of age, do NOT insist on running for reelection even while your approval ratings sink into the low 40s and high 30s. Make it clear early that you are stepping aside, and give the people a chance to have a full primary process so that the strongest possible candidate can be fielded. I’ve said before that I was impressed with how well Harris campaigned and I think that’s true. But she was not a strong candidate.
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“FLERP!:
So let me see if I can understand this since Barry Goldwater the Republican right (and there has not been a left since the 70s ) has been running on Social issue Trump was not the first to call this Nation a failing Nation .
“Tonight there is violence in our streets, corruption in our highest offices, aimlessness among our youth, anxiety among our elders and there is a virtual despair among the many who look beyond material success for the inner meaning of their lives. Where examples of morality should be set, the opposite is seen.” Barry Goldwater…
Nixon ran on a southern strategy twice . By 1979 the aMoral Majority. Was using opposition to Abortion rights and Women’s equality as social issues. Of course even deep throat came out of the dark eventually and they could not help detailing their success in biographies. . The real concern of that despicable bunch of characters was opposition to integrating Christian Academies and Liberty University. Then came gay rights and they had another bogyman.,,,
So they have been pushing social issue for 60 or more years and you say Democrats should not defend the oppressed.
Seth Moultin said today in his version of an autopsy; that frankly he doesn’t want his daughter mowed down on a playing field by a male/ female athlete. How is the weather in Manhattan today 72 and sunny without a cloud in the sky . His daughter stands a better chance of getting struck by lightning on 5th Ave today than getting plowed over by a Trans sexual athlete.
It is a non issue there are 3.4 million female athletes k-12 . The Republicans were able to document not 5,000 not 500, not 50 . They were able to document all of 5 in their hearings to protect woman in sports . As my gay female friend said to me, with all the hate no body just chooses to be gay . And certainly they don’t chose to be Transsexual. So this Bernie Sanders Populist is okay with Democrats standing up for the oppressed.
You say that they should stop playing the race card. As if Republicans have not played it ,again since 64.
Forget the stats that compare wages of White HS grads to Black College grads.
It is an undeniable fact that White Youth and Black Youth use drugs in almost equal amounts. Yet the Black arrest and incarceration rate is multiple times that of White youth. If they had set up a stop and frisk operation outside my kids ELITE LI Public HS, half the school would have attended the State Pen instead of Pen State. The Town Supervisor and the Police Chief would be seeking reconstructive surgery and going for hormone treatments. Long Island has some of the most segregated schools in the Nation that is not an accident. Lets stop with the post racial BS… .
Now I’m glad you brought up Sanders this populist lefty canvassed for him in 2016.
Andrew Sullivan had said he was a demagogue . I agree with him. However the poor oppressed one percent were very capable of defending themselves . They sacked him in the media negative articles 21 times a day in WaPo …. But that aside how did he do in the primaries . The minority communities that his policies would have benefited the most rejected him. So where is the traction. Besides Sherrod Brown who was equally populist
was ejected…
So here is what I know. If Donald Trump were President he would have starting in late 2021 even with the inflation, calling this “the best economy ever” Every Republican would have defended that in the Halls of Congress and in the Media. They would have pointed out the pace of Job creation and what turned out to be Covid disruptions that caused transitory inflation. While screaming to the roof top that Labor shortages were giving workers raises that outpaced inflation. Democrats on the other hand did not want to be seen with Biden . Allowing the dismal economy narrative to set in.
Please explain to me how I have heard 5 times in the last 4 days on BBC , MSNBC and CNN how Americans can not afford the price of gas. Gas is $2.80 a gallon adjusted for wages and millage it is dirt cheap .
Trump was not wrong about everything. One of them the media . They sacked Biden/ Harris with a false narrative about an economy that even the WSJ says is the envy of the World.
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I certainly did not say Democrats should not defend the oppressed.
Thanks for the rest of your comment. I’ll ponder it.
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Speaking of the Bern, he appears to agree with me, based on this statement in today’s NYT. This may give palpitations to certain commenters who like to chastise people for not “trusting Bernie.”
“It’s not just Kamala,” he said. “It’s a Democratic Party which increasingly has become a party of identity politics, rather than understanding that the vast majority of people in this country are working class. This trend of workers leaving the Democratic Party started with whites, and it has accelerated to Latinos and Blacks.”
Mr. Sanders, a political independent who has long criticized the influence of the party’s biggest donors and veteran operatives, offered a pessimistic forecast: “Whether or not the Democratic Party has the capability, given who funds it and its dependency on well-paid consultants, whether it has the capability of transforming itself, remains to be seen.”
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I submit that no political maneuvering will save the day for democrats, especially in the climate of (rightful) distrust of politics and politicians. Instead of endlessly listing what mistakes were made, what issues shouldn’t be pushed—since they don’t cut through Trump and his message—we need to identify two things
A cult cannot be broken up by telling the members “we understand where you are coming from, and we feel your pain”. No, what I think needs to be done is to make the cult leader appear weak and useless to its members.
Talking about the cult leader all the time accomplishes the opposite, since it confirms his importance.
For the German people a war was needed to wake up from their immoral dream, and the task ahead of us is to deliver the wake up call in the US peacefully.
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I don’t think rhetoric or messaging will do much, especially considering how badly messaging and rhetoric have failed. What will turn things is Trump failing miserably at all his promises, including mass deportation, which seems very likely to happen.
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Trump can damage a lot of people, institutions, and norms in four years. And no one will stop him.
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For sure. Assuming we lose the House (seems likely), we can start putting the brakes on in two years. If we can win.
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I think one place the Democratic Party might want to look is in policies to address the rising inequality between men and boys and women and girls. My university has more BIPOC students than male students. This is now common in higher education. Folks here might be interested in reading (or listening) to Richard Reeves discussing the issue: https://www.niskanencenter.org/why-men-and-boys-are-falling-behind-with-richard-v-reeves/
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How does this sound to you as an excuse?
I am a non-BIPOC male hence I am willing to vote for a criminal.
I am guessing a perfectly reasonable recipe for preventing WWII would have been for non-Nazi people to soul-search themselves to find out what they did wrong when they heard
I am a factory worker in 1931 in Germany and hence I am supporting Hitler.
and then to move closer to his views and demands to appear non-distinguishable from Hitler.
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I am not offering an excuse, I am suggesting an explanation.
Explanations are important. If you want to prevent a person from supporting Hitler, prevent a person from becoming a terrorist, prevent a person from voting for Trump, you have to understand why they support Hitler, why they become a terrorist, and why the vote for Trump.
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Cult is a cult, isn’t it? Herbert von Karajan was a Nazi, too, under the spell of Hitler, as were poor and not so poor workers, prominent scientists, Jews, Americans and many other foreign nationals. Their individual grievances were as varied as the colors of the rainbow, but their devotion to Hitler glued them together.
Make no mistake, there are many college professors who are crazy about Trump.
While the media’s constant preoccupation with Trump helps him to appear significant and hence powerful (to many, even sent by God), I think it’s a good idea to try to understand the exact movement of money that made it possible for Trumpism to seep into and infect the minds of 70+ million Americans and hundreds of millions more World wide.
The new movement of the democratic party is not to the right but to finally arrive to the 21st century where the rest of the Western (and not so Western) World has free or freeish child and health care, higher education, sub 40 hours work week, mandatory minimum 20+ days vacation time, all without economic collapse, though the production of billionaires is certainly lagging behind the US’s.
The media should abandon Trump and instead direct their cameras away from the streets of NYC, LA or New Orleans, and show how the rest of the world raise kids, spend their vacations, learn without collecting lifelong debt.
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Máté Wierdl
I agree with you 100% . Just one problem those who need those policies the most have voted for the opposite since the 1980s .Some since the 70s…
Overcoming the Constitutional difficulties in passing that legislation. The party who benefits the most by having Government fail people . Has benefited by getting the votes of those that government failed .
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I don’t know any voter who was “alienated by Dems progressive agenda” who wasn’t a right wing supporter of Trump.
If someone else knows of these people, I truly want to know. I grew up in midwest Trump country and I can tell you that reading facebook, there are plenty of very upset working and middle class women who are not progressive – they would probably veer toward conservative in many ways – who understood that it is morally reprehensible to vote for a guy running the campaign of hate and promised retribution that Trump did.
People without a moral compass voted for Trump. They are “good” people in the way that the German families who lived happily near concentration camp crematoriums are good people.
When I was a kid, growing up in a community where Holocaust survivors regularly spoke to classes and we all asked ourselves what was wrong with the Germans that they let that happen, we sometimes had a joke “Hitler was nice to dogs”. It was a stupid kid thing which accepted as a unquestionable fact that whether Hitler was kind to dogs or his mother or anyone else was the most stupid, idiotic excuse for the very BAD people who voted for the man promising retribution to the Jews because it made them complicit. The idea that it mattered one iota that Hitler was nice to dogs was a joke.
But now the NYT tells us that because Trump is nice to white supremacists, or because Trump is says he is going to blow up the system or miraculously solve health insurance or deport all the immigrants or end inflation, it’s perfectly okay that Trump spews hate and foments insurrection and lies to demonize vulnerable groups and promises to be an authoritarian on day 1 and exact retribution from Americans who won’t let him do anything he wants.
In other words, the NYT says as long as the “very good people” who vote for Trump say they are doing it because he has the cure for inflation, the fact that Trump shot someone on Fifth Avenue and they still want him to be president still means they are very good people.
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It’s not just NYT but all leftish media, like MSNBC and CNN, suggest that the loss is our fault for not making an attempt to understand the motivation of the MAGA cult.
I say, we have plenty of understanding of the MAGA cult, or cults in general.
As I see it, a cult falls apart without its charismatic head, and I think our best case scenario is that in the next couple of years, Trump’s dementia will advance enough so that Vance would have to take over who is only a smooth talking neanderthal without a sense of humor or any hint of charisma.
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Vance is a right-wing zealot, with the added bonus of understanding how to sell his poison to Trump’s fools. Vance is not a man who intends to remain the second banana.
He also thinks Trump is a useful idiot.
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Agreed. Vance is opportunistic. His first judgments about Trump were right. Has he really changed?
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These people don’t change. They just get weirder and more evil.
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While obviously Fix “News” deserves the lion’s share of the blame for making this creep seem “normal ,” I also blame the legacy media for not doing more to demonstrate how strong our economy actually is and also sanewashing. In Nazi Germany, the highest total the Nazis got in a vote was about 33%. Think on that…
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While Fix was autocorrect, it actually works. Meant to say Fox News ofc.
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I agree 100%, but there are those who say that you are suffering from dementia if you don’t know that the media is very, very anti-Trump and pro-Kamala.
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Here’s how George Conway put it in The Atlantic:
“the nation was on notice…By 2020, after the chaos, the derangement, and the incompetence, we knew a lot better…most other Americans did too, voting him out of office that fall. And when his criminal attempt to steal the election culminated in the violence of January 6, their judgment was vindicated.”
“SO THERE WAS NO EXCUSE THIS YEAR (emphasis mine). We knew all we needed to know, even without the mendacious raging about Ohioans eating pets, the fantasizing about shooting journalists and arresting political opponents as ‘enemies of the people,’ even apart from the evidence presented in courts and the convictions in one that demonstrated his abject criminality.”
“We knew, and have known, for years. Every American knew, or should have known. The man elected president last night is a depraved and brazen pathological liar, a shameless con man, a sociopathic criminal, a man who has no moral or social conscience, empathy, or remorse. He has no respect for the Constitution and laws he will swear to uphold, and on top of all that, he exhibits emotional and cognitive deficiencies that seem to be intensifying, and that will only make his turpitude worse. He represents everything we should aspire not to be, and everything we should teach our children not to emulate. The only hope is that he’s utterly incompetent, and even that is a double-edged sword, because his incompetence often can do as much as harm as his malevolence. His government will be filled with corrupt grifters, spiteful maniacs, and morally bankrupt sycophants, who will follow in his example and carry his directives out, because that’s who they are and want to be.”
“…I daresay I fear we shall see a profound degradation in the ability of this nation to govern itself rationally and fairly, with freedom and political equality under the rule of law. Because that is not actually a prediction. It’s a logical deduction based on the words and deeds of the president-elect, his enablers, and his supporters—and a long and often sorry record of human history. Let us brace ourselves.”
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/11/trump-election-presidential-term/680562/
Let’s repeat. THERE WAS NO EXCUSE. EVERY AMERICAN KNEW, OR SHOULD HAVE KNOWN.
I’ve read comments here that people — DESPITE the burgeoning economy and job and wage growth, and infrastructure green energy investments — who voted for Trump were driven to it by “$6 eggs.”
Oh, please. That’s just inane.
Peter Baker at the NY Times said it like this:
“…for the first time in history, Americans have elected a convicted criminal as president. They handed power back to a leader who tried to overturn a previous election, called for the “termination” of the Constitution to reclaim his office, aspired to be a dictator on Day 1 and vowed to exact “retribution” against his adversaries.”
“Rather than be turned off by Mr. Trump’s flagrant, anger-based appeals along lines of race, gender, religion, national origin and especially transgender identity, many Americans found them bracing. Rather than be offended by his brazen lies and wild conspiracy theories, many found him authentic. Rather than dismiss him as a felon found by various courts to be a fraudster, cheater, sexual abuser and defamer, many embraced his assertion that he has been the victim of persecution.”
Hmmm. Sounds sort of like fascism, does it not? And sheer stupidity, no?
It appears that a healthy segment of the American voting population is either cognitively impaired or wholly disconnected from the democratic values and principles that are the foundation of the republic.
Or both.
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Hello DIane and everyone,
I’m just coming to terms with it all as so many others are. I can see the stress in their faces here at work. But I am so grateful that we had such a fierce, powerful, compassionate warrior to lead us. Who out there would have wanted to take up the challenge of running against Donald Trump? Look at yourself and ask if you would have been fierce enough, courageous enough to stand against the personification of our collective American shadow in this moment. Could you be fearless? Could you have done it with the grace, the eloquence, the caring and the class that Kamala Harris showed? She made me PROUD to be a woman, PROUD to be a fighter for all people. Thank you, Kamala Harris.
“It is not the critic who counts; not the man who points out how the strong
woman stumbles, or where the doer of deeds could have done them better.
The credit belongs to the woman who is actually in the arena, whose face is
marred by dust and sweat and blood; who strives valiantly; who errs, who
comes short again and again, because there is no effort without error and
shortcoming; but who does actually strive to do the deeds; who knows
great enthusiasms, the great devotions; who spends herself in a worthy
cause; who at the best knows in the end the triumph of high achievement,
and who at the worst, if she fails, at least fails while daring greatly, so that
her place shall never be with those cold and timid souls who neither know
victory nor defeat.” (changes mine, of course)
In the end, let that be the lesson to all our sons and daughters who will carry on the fight to live up to the best of American ideals.
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I am almost glad my long wordy response probably didn’t send / post.
Was SOCIALIST Bernie not the Chair of the Senate Committee on Labor and Education. In essence appointed by the Party Leaders including the ultimate leader Biden . Was there not 500b billion in Soft / Social infrastructure included in the bill the House passed . Were tax increases on the wealthy to pay for this not in the House version , Did the Pro Act not Pass the House.
Was Voting Rights not passed in the House , Minimum wage not passed in the House. Now you I assume know why so much of this did not pass the Senate part of that goes back to our legacy of slavery (although for a slightly different reason at the time ) . I am tired of being a second class citizen whose electoral power and legislative will are lower than a cow in near half the states. Why not call his office and ask him why none of this passed. Was it the Party or was it the very Nature of the US Senate . The good news is the 70% of voters in WV where not even a respectable immigrant will settle; These voters will now become fewer as programs get cut . They voted to die sooner. But the not even the obstructionist Manchin would have survived as the destitute Troglodytes of WV rejected a Progressive alternative.
But lets just talk about one subset of the Blue collar working class. The first Bill that was passed by these supposed Elite Democrats included the rescue of not just the Teamsters Central States Pension Plan and some other plans in or near default. It rescued every Multi Employer plan in the Nation from near bankrupting fees and requirements that would have followed the failure of the Pension Benefit Guarantee Trust Fund.Mostly construction Unions .
Then there was the infrastructure and Chips act that created full employment in the Union Construction Industry with provisions for Union Labor and American Products . Full employment outside a few big Cities hit by the Covid induced Work From home that has decimated Commercial Construction . With the promise of full employment as these major infrastructure projects get going . It took 5 years from the 1/17 to 11/22 for JFK to see a construction Helmet .
How did these Blue collar construction workers who bent over backward to help, vote in 2024 .
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Who Biden bent over to help . How did they vote.
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If the Democrats are to effectively oppose Mr. Trump, it must be not just through resisting his worst impulses but also by offering a vision of what they would do to improve the lives of all Americans and respond to anxieties that people have about the direction of the country and how they would change it.
Why do the Democrats have to have policy to counter a Republican administration when the Republicans can simply gridlock a Democratic administration?
This is the same argument that states a man doesn’t have to jump through nearly as many hoops as a woman does in order to be taken seriously—or a woman being aggressive is bad but a man being aggressive is normal. NYT, you can do better.
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I thought Kamala offered an excellent batch of related policies that would have improved the lives of working class and middle class Americans.
Trump offered deporting millions of immigrants. You can get the jobs they left behind, like farm worker.
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