I did not cancel my subscription to the Washington Post despite the fact that I was outraged by billionaire Jeff Bezos’s censorship of the editorial board, which intended to endorse Kamala Harris.
I expected that the response of the editorial board and the opinion writ were a would double down on their contempt for the insurrectionist, lying former president.
As this editorial today shows, the editorial board will not be silenced. In this editorial, it draws a straight line between democracy and civility, a character trait that Trump knows not.
Unless Bezos replaces the editorial board with MAGA types, the WaPo editorials will dole out contempt for Trump every day that remains of the campaign. The last paragraph, in particular, is a gem.
Think of it as slow-walking its endorsement of Kamala.
Democracy depends on many things: institutions, traditions, public legitimacy and, yes, a culture of civility. The peaceful transfer of power requires people to have at least a minimum degree of trust in their fellow citizens — that the stakes are not existential. In this regard, former president Donald Trump showed, in his closing argument at a raucous rally at Madison Square Garden, that whether he wins or loses on Nov. 5, he has already done severe damage to American politics by coarsening and corroding public discourse.
Seeking to limit the fallout after a rally speaker referred to Puerto Rico as “a floating island of garbage in the middle of the ocean,” campaign spokeswoman Karoline Leavitt lamented on Monday on Fox News: “It’s sad that the media will pick up on one joke that was made by a comedian rather than the truths that were shared by the phenomenal list of speakers that we had.”
Here are some of the “truths” from the other “phenomenal” speakers, none of which the Trump campaign disavowed: Businessman Grant Cardone likened Vice President Kamala Harris to a prostitute. “Her and her pimp handlers will destroy our country,” he said. David Rem, billed as a childhood friend of Mr. Trump’s, called Ms. Harris the “Antichrist” and “devil” while waving a cross onstage.
Radio host Sid Rosenberg called Hillary Clinton a son of a b—- and dropped an f-bomb as he said that all Democrats are “degenerates … lowlifes.” Rudy Giuliani, disbarred over his misconduct as a lawyer for Mr. Trump’s effort to block the 2020 election results, said Ms. Harris is “on the side of the terrorists” in the Israel-Gaza conflict. Donald Trump Jr. claimed Democrats want to “replace” Americans with immigrants.
The stand-up comedian who made that nasty crack about Puerto Rico, Tony Hinchcliffe, made other tasteless ethnic jokes about African Americans, Latinos and Jews. The Bulwark reported that Trump campaign staffers reviewed a script of Mr. Hinchcliffe’s routine in advance and asked him to excise only a line that referred to Ms. Harris as a “c—.”
Even so, a pro-Trump group funded by Elon Musk, who also spoke at Sunday’s rally, posted on X, the platform he owns, and later deleted a video that referred to Ms. Harris as the c-word. After some innuendo, the video’s narrator clarifies that they mean she’s a communist.
To be sure, Mr. Trump has been destabilizing civil discourse since even before he started his 2016 campaign: It was in 2011 that he started voicing support for the false notion that President Barack Obama was not born in the United States. Yet in the final weeks of this election, he seems to be making the normalization of incivility one of his campaign’s de facto objectives.
He opened a rally this month in Latrobe, Pennsylvania, by commenting on the size of golfer Arnold Palmer’s genitalia. Mr. Trump told the crowd that night that his wife, Melania, has urged him to use less foul language and that evangelical leader Franklin Graham wrote him a letter pleading the same case. His punchline is that he cannot help himself because Ms. Harris has been a “s—” vice president and everything she touches turns to “s—.” The crowd started chanting “s—” in Latrobe. A top-selling shirt outside his rallies describes Ms. Harris as a “hoe.”
True, Mr. Trump’s campaign is not only a cause of this society’s spreading incivility but a consequence of it. Moreover, norms regarding profanity follow a cultural dynamic separate from politics, and the culture is more permissive about such things than it once was. This may explain why Ms. Harris has also occasionally been using four-letter words on the stump. She swore up a storm in a Rolling Stone interview and said being vice president has made her more profane. Her running mate, Tim Walz, called Mr. Musk “a dips—” during a rally last week. Not a great example. But Mr. Trump’s Madison Square Garden rally and events like it are in a class by themselves, not least in their threatening tone.
When he finally took the stage on Sunday, the former president declared without irony: “The Republican Party has really become the party of inclusion.” Then, over 80 minutes, he promised to invoke the 1798 Alien Enemies Act to deport undocumented immigrants, called Democrats “the enemy within” and the mainstream media “the enemy of the people,” described the United States as “an occupied country,” and predicted Nov. 5 will bring “Liberation Day.” Even without a vulgarity, it was the most offensive language of all.

The article says that Trump began to raise questions about Obama’s birth in 2011 but neglects to mention that those rumors were originally started by Hillary supporters in 2008.
https://www.factcheck.org/2015/07/was-hillary-clinton-the-original-birther/
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“One of the authors of the Politico story, Byron Tau, now a reporter for the Wall Street Journal, told FactCheck.org via email that “we never found any links between the Clinton campaign and the rumors in 2008.”
“The other coauthor of the Politico story, Ben Smith, now the editor-in-chief of BuzzFeed, said in a May 2013 interview on MSNBC that the conspiracy theories traced back to “some of [Hillary Clinton’s] passionate supporters,” during the final throes of Clinton’s 2008 campaign. But he said they did not come from “Clinton herself or her staff.””
Why do you hate Democratic nominees so much?
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OMG, this is really as low as it gets. Normalizing Trump leading the birther movement. Shades of Trump saying “Hillary made me do it”.
When I said this election is one where it is the voter who shows their character, this is what I meant.
What next? I guess she will interrupt a discussion of the bad things Hitler did to Jews to remind us that someone else started the blood libel rumor?
The only reason to do that is to pretend that Trump’s blatant racism and hate is acceptable because “Democrats do it too”. They do NOT lead birther movements. But that doesn’t really matter to some folks who reveal their character.
It’s not shocking, given that this person spread the rumor of Putin just fighting Ukraine Nazis whenever other people expressed concern about Putin annihilating Ukraine families.
Talk about a character reveal.
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What’s character revealing is how the same behavior that is (rightly) condemnable when conservatives/Republicans do it is somehow always excusable or at least overlookable when liberals/Democrats do it. It’s almost as if it’s not about values at all but just about team sports. Go Blue!
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What’s character revealing is accusing someone of doing what you yourself do, which is exactly what you are doing now.
None of us “overlook” anything. We don’t try to deceive others by posting false propaganda to demonize others. We aren’t so scared to defend our own choices that we can’t acknowledge the flaws of our candidates, put those flaws in some perspective, and explain our rationale for still supporting them.
Here’s an example: Kamala doesn’t support Medicare for All. However, she does support expanding access to health insurance and believes in public health care. So why would I ALLOW a right wing authoritarian spewing hate, promising retribution, inciting violence if he doesn’t win elections who stands against expanding healthcare and fought to undermine the small gains won in expanding coverage who just happens to ALSO be a clear and dangerous threat to democracy itself win? Of course I am voting for Kamala.
Whereas you said that if a candidate doesn’t support Medicare for All but that candidate does support expanding health care, you would work hard to defeat that candidate DESPITE knowing that if she loses, the candidate who doesn’t just oppose M4All, but opposes the very idea of a tax-funded public health program that isn’t about enriching some privatizers, would win.
You accept an outcome that we don’t. We have explained why we don’t. You have never explained why that outcome of having Trump – knowing he is a racist, authoritarian inciting violence, spurning the constitution, insisting that any election he doesn’t win is illegitimate, is acceptable to you if you don’t get Medicare for All. You just seem to avoid acknowledging what it is you are fine with. Like Roy’s acquaintance who says the outcome is getting a “rude” candidate. Because she probably can’t acknowledge even to herself that that what she is “okay” with is not “rudeness”. We all know what Trump is, and we know it is a reflection of your character whether having him as leader is an acceptable outcome to you if you can’t get exactly what you want.
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Okay, so acknowledge the flaws of your candidates. I’ve never seen you do that before.
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I’ve done it many times. I have never seen you do it (and I don’t count your “harsh” criticism of Trump having orange hair).
But then again, maybe you can explain the difference between the people who cheer on a president as morally and ethically unfit as Trump, and those who are content to empower a president as morally and ethically unfit as Trump because they didn’t get Medicare for All.
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Incidentally, I’m not the one enabling Trump. You have to look to your own party for that. I’m not the one who first promoted him with the Pied Piper Strategy. I’m not the one giving him the constant attention he seems by squawking about every outrageous thing he says, which he says specifically to get liberals to squawk. And most of all, I’m not the one constantly steering the party to the right trying to chase people who are going to vote for him anyway while spitting in the faces of those most likely to vote against him. If you don’t want to enable him, then call for an arms embargo, scaling back the military, an end to fracking, a nationwide public transportation system, single payer healthcare, a minimum wage increase, outlawing of corporate ownership of the housing stock, debt relief, paid parental leave, free daycare and college, literally anything that would actually help people.
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I like some of your demands, but not all of them. Other progressive voters like other parts of what you demand, but not all of them. That’s what a democracy is.
No wonder you are so drawn to Putin and pretend Trump is just an orange-haired oaf. You keep telling us that if every one of your demands aren’t immediately met, you are content with being ruled by a right wing anti-progressive spewing hate and promising retribution, who has already announced that any election he doesn’t win isn’t legitimate. You aren’t worried one bit.
If your wish comes true, and the Dems are defeated, you get an authoritarian government led by a right wing leader who has made it clear he stands for the opposite of everything you are demanding. That right wing authoritarian who has normalized the idea that elections the right wing doesn’t win aren’t legitimate, has promised retribution on Americans who disagree with his right wing agenda.
But you oddly feel safe from that retribution. It’s one reason some folks assume you are a right wing troll.
You never spew ugly bile at Trump, but now you even spew bile at AOC and even Bernie.
We both agree that the one thing you want is the defeat of the Democrats. But why do you have to lie and deceive to defeat them?
Your lie above that the Dems won’t offer “literally anything that would actually help people” tipped your hand. Really takes a lot of chutzpah to say that. Doesn’t that describe the Republicans?
You’ve made it clear that you’d rather have Trump than a Democrat in power.
Stop blaming your choice on other people. It’s your choice and the fact that you agree with Trump voters that it’s much more important to defeat the Dems than to defeat Trump is your choice alone. No one “made” you do it.
If right wing authoritarian rule by a leader spewing racist and xenophobic bile, inciting violence and promising retribution, who says elections that he doesn’t win aren’t legitimate, doesn’t bother you as much as having a moderate Dem, that’s entirely on you. Every Trump voter feels the exact same way.
And if a moderate Dem doesn’t “earn” your vote by supporting democracy and your right to organize and fight for the progressive legislation you claim you want, then that is just another way that you share the character of a Trump voter.
If you don’t get all your demands met, you would be fine with Trump.
I think you know what you are doing is wrong. Why else would you have to lie and say it’s because the Democrats literally don’t do anything that actually helps people. That’s as much of a lie as your “Putin invaded Ukraine to fight Nazis lie”.
If you need to lie to yourself to justify what you support, I suspect it’s because you know deep down it’s wrong. I hope you can put aside the extreme hate you have for the Democrats and do the right thing.
You shouldn’t do the right thing to help the Democrats. You should do it because you care about all the vulnerable people who will suffer under a far right authoritarian government that works to destroy all you say you support, and even worse, works to make it dangerous for progressives to keep fighting for those things you profess to care about.
Do the right thing. Or don’t. But “I didn’t want to stop white supremacist fascists because the other party wouldn’t give me Medicare for All” just doesn’t cut it.
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This election is no longer about Trump’s character.
It is about every voter’s character.
There are two kinds of voters. Those who know this is not okay, especially the racism, the promises of retribution against Americans who dare to disagree, the fomenting of hate and violence, the promises to be an authoritarian ruler, the spurning of the Constitution, the promise that in the future, the only “legitimate” election will be one that the right wing candidate wins.
And those who aren’t bothered by that future. Because they believe that the retribution, the hate, the violence, will be targeted at other people and not them and the people they love.
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Good point, NYC public school parent.
Thank you.
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Most voters I know who support Trump say that people who believe that Trump really means all the stuff he says are “Suffering from Trump Derangement Syndrome.” They say they will take his being rude to lower prices, save babies, and best back the tide of immigrants threatening their way of life. So there really is a dichotomy here, people who believe what he says and people who discount it. A third group probably believes what he says and stands behind his call for mass deportations and tariff walls.
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How will Trump lower prices?
He will take away health care from millions of people.
He will cut Social Security and Medicare.
How will he reduce the cost of living?
I haven’t even heard a “concept of a plan.”
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It is clear to me that Trump supporters could have raged through the streets of NYC acting out their own form of Kristallnacht and voters of a certain character would stay in character. They would refuse to vote for Harris/Walz because they LIKED the promise that there would be a lot more of that retribution, or they would refuse to vote for Harris/Walz DESPITE knowing full well that if they lose, there would be more of that retribution.
I don’t see the difference.
I like to think that most people are basically good. But we will find out next week.
The one thing we all agree on is Trump is showing us full out what he will be. This election is about whether there are more voters who think what Trump has shown us is acceptable or unacceptable. The ones who know it is unacceptable will vote for the Democrats.
I would vote for Mike Pence if the Democratic candidate was spewing hate and violence against Christians, talking about how the priests in their neighborhood Catholic Church were kidnapping children and sexually assaulting them, and promising retribution against everyone who opposed him because the only legitimate election was an election he won. And I would vote for Mike Pence even if that Democratic candidate who promised to trash the Constitution to get what he wanted said he supported Medicare for All and the Green New Deal.
People who trade democracy and civil society for Medicare for All or making abortions illegal are showing us their character. Since when is some policy idea you like a legitimate reason to proudly vote for a candidate spewing hate, fomenting violence, who says the only legitimate election is one that he wins, and promises retribution to his enemies?
David Duke was a racist like Trump but he didn’t even promise a violent future and retribution on his enemies. He was just an out and out racist. His supporters weren’t held up as people of good character who wanted xxx policy- they were held up as people who were happy to vote for a racist. Because that’s what they were. And many conservative white Louisiana voters were too ashamed to support him because they knew it was wrong.
No more. Our culture has changed to present those voters as good people who just cared about making Louisiana great again.
Today, we are told it is no longer racist to vote for a candidate spewing racism and hate and retribution. “Even the liberal media” reassures you every day that you are a very good person and anyone who criticizes you is the very bad person who needs to shut up.
It’s why we are in this mess. No more shame in voting for the candidate spewing hate, violence, authoritarianism, retribution, who says any election he doesn’t win isn’t legitimate. Will he round up people and put them in camps? Today’s liberal media knows it is fine if you don’t care whether he does.
It’s also fine if you care so little about what that candidate does to other people (and democracy itself) that you vote 3rd party to send the message that “I don’t care”.
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Roy writes:
“They say they will take his being rude to lower prices, save babies, and best back the tide of immigrants threatening their way of life.”
That’s a sane-washed version of what they are doing but is similar to what the media does.
Here is the accurate version:
“They say they will take his racism, lies about immigrants, they will take his inciting an insurrection, and they will accept Trump’s fomenting hate and violence and promising retribution to Americans who don’t support him,they will take his authoritarianism and his spurning of the Constitution, to save babies, and beat back the tide of immigrants threatening their way of life.”
Which is why this election is about character.
Your version is unfortunately what the media presents to make sure these folks are admired as “good people”.
All of what Trump is, sane-washed into “Trump being rude.”
There is nothing wrong with voting for a candidate who is JUST rude if that candidate isn’t ALSO spewing racism, inciting insurrections, promising retribution, fomenting violence, spurning rule of law and the Constitution, etc. etc. etc.
She is more than willing to voter for all of that other stuff and that’s because of her own character. It’s not “rudeness” she is willing to accept. It is the other stuff.
We’ve all been propagandized – myself included – after years of the so-called liberal media writing stories that edit out every true fact that would make these voters feel shame.
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The contradiction that goes over me is the save baby paradox. For some reason, babies that are defenseless in the womb suddenly become self sufficient and need no health care.
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It doesn’t surprise me that someone who votes for a fascist who is inciting hate and violence, who demonizes non-white people and promises to reign retribution on Americans who don’t agree with him, would not care one iota about what happens to a baby once the baby is born. If fits perfectly with their character.
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I know he’s “rude”, but I like what Hitler is saying about the economy, so I’m voting for him.
Said every complicit German who was fine with antisemitism and a leader fomenting hate.
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The sad part is that Hitler never got a majority of votes in German elections. The highest the Nazis got was about 33%. BUT, around half of Americans will vote for Trump.
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Check out an article in the Down Yonder about down ballot races. The author quotes Peter Greene.
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https://wapo.st/3UuDukO
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Donald, who became a traitor on January 6, 2021, and then a convicted rapist, fraud and felon, Trump’s hate and lies has marched [Nazi style] millions of his loyalist ditto heads wearing MAGA hats into a septic tank so toxic, the waste cannot be released for thousands of years.
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