Trump had a town hall for Republican women to address women’s issues. He sought to reassure his audience that he would protect them. This is the town hall in Georgia where he claimed that he was “the father of IVF.” No one asked him to define IVF. I wonder if he could.
Jill Filipovic wrote for Slate about Trump’s efforts to calm women voters. He needs their votes.
What, most politicians ask themselves, do women want? American women vote in larger numbers than men. Issues that affect our lives are routinely diminished as “women’s issues,” even as we make up more than half the population. Both parties, but Republicans much more than Democrats, have a male dominance problem. There has never been a female president.
So, what do women want? Last week, Republican presidential contender Donald Trump took a shot at answering that question when he sat down with Fox News host Harris Faulkner and a female-only audience for a town hall event that aired on Wednesday. Trump’s answer to the age-old question? Bizarre ramblings about safety, nonsensical talking points about reproductive rights, and strongman promises to just fix things, democratic processes be damned. What was clear, though, was how Trump and his team approach women: As dependents in need of protection, and as a special interest group that doesn’t particularly interest him outside of the fact that he needs them to win.
If you’ve watched a Trump debate or a Trump rally, very little of what he said on The Faulkner Focus will come as a surprise. His talking points are well-established, if they tend to come out in streams of gibberish and have little relationship to reality. He had the best border; Biden had the worst border. He had the best economy; Biden had the worst economy. This time, he added a few newer ones: He had the best child tax credit, although, he said, it was mostly his daughter’s idea, and Biden turned it into the worst tax credit. (In reality: Joe Biden expanded the child tax credit; Republicans, aided by Democratic Sen. Joe Manchin, then refused to renew it; and this summer Senate Republicans blocked a bill that would have expanded it.) Trump’s Republican Party is also the best on IVF, he said, better than Democrats—and in fact, he, Trump, is the “father of IVF,” an absurd claim he boasted three separate times.
Setting aside how offensive and stomach-roiling it is to hear that phrase out of Trump’s mouth, the claim that Republicans are good on IVF couldn’t be more false. Republicans have opposed Democratic efforts to protect IVF nationally and have introduced bills that could ban it nationwide. But it’s really clear that Trump knows how bad Republicans look on this—and he credited the “fantastically attractive” Sen. Katie Britt of Alabama with teaching him so this year after the Alabama Supreme Court effectively made it illegal in that state.
How he learned what IVF was this year and still became IVF’s father was left a mystery. But this Big Daddy posturing was his central theme.
It was clear from the start that Trump’s team had told him to emphasize safety—that the pro-Trump women in the audience (and they were almost all pro-Trump) wanted to hear about how Trump would protect them. Faulkner kicked off the conversation by complaining about Democratic “prebuttals” to the town hall, playing footage of Georgia Sen. Raphael Warnock telling voters to get out and cast their ballots because Trump is a threat to democracy. Trump responded by bragging about his endorsements from the Border Patrol and the Fraternal Order of Police—not exactly organizations with tons of women in their ranks—and continued, “So when you talk about safety …” (Faulkner had not talked about safety). But Trump did want to talk about safety or, to put a finer point on it, to convince suburban Georgia women that they are imperiled by undocumented immigrants and criminals, and that Trump is the only one who can save them.
Trump also played the protector when asked about the child tax credit, which has become far less generous thanks largely to Republicans. Always careful to maintain a macho posture, the former president actually gave someone else credit for once—his daughter Ivanka, who he said begged him to do something to support struggling families. He suggested he didn’t have any great desire to take on the issue, but, well, his daughter demanded it, and Daddy wasn’t going to say no.
The same theme showed up in Trump’s answer to a question about transgender girls playing sports. The solution, Trump said, was simply to ban it. How would he prevent trans girls from playing sports, Faulkner asked? He would just ban it, Trump said. That’s it—he’ll be the president, after all. Just ban it.
The audience cheered.
On the campaign trail, Kamala Harris has rightly been emphasizing the threat Trump poses to democracy (it is actually Democrats, Trump said in this town hall, who are the real threats to democracy). And many voters are certainly persuaded that democracy is worth defending, and that Trump imperils it. But for Trump’s loyalists, his authoritarian tendencies are part of the draw. He won’t mess around with the separation of powers or slow process of democratic lawmaking. He’ll be the president—if he doesn’t like something, he’ll just ban it. Like the women in the Fox audience, his supporters love it. And if women are good to Daddy, maybe he’ll take their problems into consideration, too.
Women are more than half of the population. There is no one thing we all want. Except, I suspect, the right to bodily autonomy when our lives or health are threatened by a situation out of our control. Trump’s pitch to women is that they won’t need autonomy. They can just trust in the man who promises to bend the country in their favor, even if he winds up breaking it.

TRUMP LIES over and over again. TRUMP IS UNFIT to serve…period.
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Women should not vote for Trump. Most of the leftist feminists in my group agree. However, the Democrats have also abandoned women, as former ACLU lawyer, feminist activist, lifelong Democrat, and writer Kara Dansky discusses in her books and substack. In this article she lays a case against putting men in women’s prisons, allowing male athletes to compete in women’s sports, and against the trans medicalization of children and young people. In a comment on an article in WaPo last week she wrote about the Democrats’ failure to protect women and girls:
Feminists have been telling the Democrats in power how their embrace of “gender identity” harms women and girls since at least August of 2016, when the Women’s Liberation Front sued the Obama Administration for redefining sex to include “gender identity” under Title IX. A radical feminist lesbian explained it to the Democrat-majority House Judiciary Committee live and in person on C-SPAN in April of 2019. The US chapter of Women’s Declaration International has been explaining this in no uncertain terms since 2020. I submitted written testimony to the Democrat-majority Senate Judiciary Committee on behalf of WDI USA in March of 2021. I have published two books on the topic: The Abolition of Sex (2021) and The Reckoning: How the Democrats and the Left Betrayed Women and Girls (2023). Several of us have met repeatedly with Democratic lawmakers at the federal and state level to explain it. WDI USA has asked the Democratic Women’s Caucus for a meeting and offered to connect them with feminist lawmakers abroad who have successfully challenged their own left-leaning parties on this topic; they ignored us. In August, I published an open letter to Kamala Harris, asking her to say at the DNC that a woman is an adult human female; she didn’t. I could provide countless other examples. Rank and file Democrats, including many lesbians and gay men, have been screaming about this for years. The WDI USA Lesbian, Black Women’s, and Detransitioned Women’s Caucuses have spelled out their critiques of “gender identity” clearly; their statements are all at http://www.womensdeclarationusa.com. I personally know lifelong Democrats who are voting for Trump for this reason (among others). The Democrats in power have ignored our pleas. They are perfectly happy to sacrifice women and girls at the altar of “gender identity” and this Republican onslaught of ads is the inevitable result. Women are female and men are male. It’s not complicated. Signed, a lifelong registered Democratic adult human female.
https://open.substack.com/pub/karadansky/p/those-republican-anti-trans-ads-again?r=9benm&utm_medium=ios
The Democrats need to depoliticize the fight for safety and fairness in female sports, stop funding the trans medicalization of children and young people, most of whom will turn out gay if left alone, and stop allowing males to self-identify into female only spaces. Currently in the state of California I stood with formerly incarcerated women (Woman ii Woman) and WoLF (Women’s Liberation Front) to watch the preliminary hearing of Tremaine Carroll, a recently transferred male inmate into Chowchilla, who is accused of raping two women, and witness tampering. He had a full beard and has done no estrogen or surgeries to appear as a woman, just a manipulative conman who has gamed the law, SB132, which allows men to self-id as women and transfer to the women’s prison. I am following both organizations and listening to the female prisoners. Democrats should too.
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Thank you for this very informative comment. Will this blog’s host defy left-wing orthodoxy and publicly agree with you on these issues?
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Absolutely support everything you said. How has my party drifted so far from reality? At the expense of actual women and children? Sex is real and it matters. Sex, not gender–performance of or adherence to sex-based stereotypes–is the vector of women’s oppression. Women are quite simply real–the other type of human. A sex class. Obscure that, and we no longer have the ability to name ourselves, name our oppression or fight for our rights in law. It’s really that simple. Sex is real. Humans cannot change sex. We are a sexually dimorphic species. And one of my party’s biggest projects is to end consensus around this reality and reorder society on the basis of a male-supremacist cult’s faith belief that these things are not true. Insane.
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Thank you for saying this. Trump is unfit to lead for many reasons, one of which is his stance on abortion. He is outright dangerous and an all around terrible person.
But how can the Democrats call themselves the party of women when they promote the practice of housing fully intact, violent male criminals in locked cells with incarcerated women? Women are being raped and impregnated. I’ve worked with incarcerated folks for years and can’t believe my eyes.
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Hilarious (but sad) to read 4 comments by trolls who hate women who have never posted here before but suddenly decided to tell women that Trump is correct about the real danger being trans women and the Dems forcing children to have gender reassignment surgery in schools.
If you were women, you would understand why women are concerned about the fact that voting Republican endangers the health and life of women and children in this country.
And it’s not just abortion and health – it is the many right wing men going into schools and gunning down children in their classrooms because Trump and the Republicans have said they have the right to buy as many assault weapons as they want.
Parents know that right wing Republicans with assault weapons are far more dangerous that their child being friends with a trans teenager in their classroom.
Go away, haters.
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I used to blog and comment regularly. Check out my public school teacher blog- teachingmalinche.com. I stopped after returning to teach in person and from exhaustion as a mother, daughter in law, wife, and local union leader. I still comment from time to time and I work actively in the feminist movement. You don’t need to agree with our leftist feminist movement, but we do have a right to free speech and dissenting points of view. Calling women you disagree with “trolls” and “haters” does not help open up complex issues for rational discussion. It does, however, silence debate and weaken the democratic process.
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I guess (as usual), that you didn’t read the post OR the Substack article by Kara Dansky…..a life long Dem/lesbian/and former ACLU lawyer. You just came to name call (as usual).
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If I wrongly assumed you were a troll, I’m sorry.
But your comments are very similar in tone to the rabidly anti-public school, anti-teachers’ union comments that used to be regularly posted here.
Those posts gave examples of evil “union teacher/sexual predators” and denounced the evil teachers union (and the evil Democrats who were pro-union) for “protecting” those rapist/union teachers and allowing them to remain in their classrooms to assault even more children.
Those posters also identified themselves as non-trolls, just caring people who wanted to protect children from the evil teachers union that “protects sexual predator/teachers” and keeps them in the classroom so they can continue to rape children.
Do you see why these kinds of posts are off-putting? I certainly never wanted a sexual predator teacher to be teaching my kid, but I also knew that the people posting comments about how the evil teachers union was protecting sexual predators and allowing them to stay in the classroom to rape more children were right wing agitators who just wanted to foment hate against unions and teachers and pro-union Dems
Just as your posts seem to be about fomenting hate and violence against trans people and the Dems who fight to stop that hate and violence against trans people.
I don’t want ANY woman sexual assaulted by another prisoner. I don’t want ANY student sexually assaulted by a union teacher.
But you present this the way that anti-public school folks do – that if I don’t denounce the Dems for being responsible for union teachers assaulting young kids, and a trans woman assaulting another prisoner, then I am pro-rapist.
I assume that many teachers on here would understand exactly what you are doing, because that kind of ugly right wing rhetoric has been used to undermine unions and public schools.
Your post isn’t about a rational discussion. It is to foment hate.
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“trolls who hate women”?
That is utterly ridiculous and breathtakingly rude.
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Bob,
“Campbell Brown: Teachers Unions Go to Bat for Sexual Predators”
WSJ July 29, 2012
“…in the last five years in New York City, 97 tenured teachers or school employees have been charged by the Department of Education with sexual misconduct.”
Since I don’t consider you a hypocrite, I’m sure you appreciated when Campbell Brown and her ilk cited anecdotes about children being harmed by predator teachers and protected by teachers unions the way you seem so sympathetic to the folks here saying that Dems are protecting predator trans women in prison who are regularly preying and sexually assaulting women prisoners where they are all housed in the same cells.
Did you post “breathtakingly rude” at all the posters here who challenged the anti-public school posts that repeated Campbell Brown’s claims about predator teachers and the teachers union that threw students under the bus?
No doubt the posters here who attacked teachers unions with Campbell Brown’s anecdotal evidence about predator teachers the union protected just cared about stopping those predator union-protected teachers from raping public school kids. Just like these posters care about protecting female inmates from getting raped by trans women who are being sent there because of Democrats who throw women and children under the bus.
The point of these posts is to push the lie that it is KAMALA (not Trump) who is throwing women and children under the bus, by citing trans women in prison supposedly preying on women in prison almost as much as predator union teachers supposedly preyed on children. Although Campbell Brown cited far more anecdotes of those “bad” teacher/predators than the folks here cited “bad” predator/trans women prisoners.
I am surprised that anyone defends the people trying to demonize Democrats in the same way union teachers were demonized — citing an anecdote and amplifying the message that women and children (or in the case of pedophile union teachers, just children) being thrown under the bus.
I think what Campbell Brown posted to garner hate against teachers union was hateful. And I think what is posted here to garner hate against Dems is hateful.
I am sorry you think doing that is okay. And I hope you don’t think it is okay just because trans women are the victims and not union teachers.
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Thank you for pointing out the left’s involvement in leaving women behind. It seems to get lost on this blog.
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It’s not lost on me. People need to distinguish between gender expression on the one hand and biological sex on the other.
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THANK YOU for saying this. We Democrats are only too happy to point out the serious failings of Trump and the GOP on women’s issues, but attack our own when it comes to those who are decrying our party’s shameful treatment of women being forced to share prison cells with trans-identified male prisoners (around 50% of whom have been convicted of sex-related offenses, compared to around 11% for the male prison population as a whole). Their disregard for women’s safety, privacy, and dignity extends to males in women’s shelters, sports, and facilities.
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Do you have any idea about what happens to most 19 year old trans females sent to men’s prisons? What percentage do you think are sexually assaulted, beaten, hospitalized, and killed? Or perhaps the question is what percentage are not?
Have you actually seen most trans women? They aren’t bearded. You have probably passed many women who are shorter and smaller than the average woman who are trans but you did not know it.
If I were just interested in fomenting hate against folks, I would say that the posters here hate trans women so much they want all of them to die.
We can’t have rational discussions when people just want to foment anti-trans hate.
It’s not a coincidence that it is right wing women who believe women should be subservient to men who are the most anti-trans, along with being anti-lesbian and anti-gay too.
Remember when gays were banned from teaching? Not all that long ago. People like those trolling here would cite some example of a “gay pedophile” and claim they were just protecting children.
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As a lifelong professional researcher, I was curious about your statistics.
The Williams Institute at UCLA, which has a good reputation as a source of data about transgender people, says something VERY different. Trans people are far more likely to be victims of crime than cisgender people: https://search.app/Y6aR9QkSbJmQe5QR8
Find better sources.
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Diane, this KQED report (one year of investigation) shows how much these anti-trans are trafficking in right wing lies:
https://www.kqed.org/news/11964027/california-prisons-fail-to-uphold-transgender-rights-despite-state-law
“The Women’s Liberation Front was looking for a villain. The rumors about Skylit fit its narrative perfectly. Even though there were no eyewitnesses, no prison investigation and a girlfriend who said the rape never happened (DOC), attorneys for the organization gathered hearsay declarations. The attorney handed them over to anti-trans websites and attached them to a motion in the legal docket (DOC), making the declarations public record.”
This organization helped to destroy Skylit not to protect women in prison but to use lies to defeat Democrats and install right wing anti-trans Republicans, like Trump.
That’s why they all suddenly posted here today.
They care about protecting women in prison from the supposedly extreme danger of rapist trans women as much as Campbell Brown cared about protecting children in public schools from the supposed extreme danger of rapist union teachers.
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Thank you for posting this comment containing my comment on the WaPo piece. It’s absolutely true that radical feminists have been explaining the problems with “gender identity” (or “trans”) to Democratic Party leaders for nearly a decade. They have ignored us. This election is agonizing for many feminists who are stuck between voting for Trump (and voting Republican for the first time ever) or voting for a party that has repeatedly, continually, aggressively, and knowingly thrown women and girls under the bus.
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Thank your, Kara, for your leadership and moral clarity on this seemingly neverending patriarchal assault on reality and women/girls/children/LGB. IMO, the sheer scope of Dems’ assault on women’s rights, bodily and single-sex boundaries, and consent that gender theology and gender self-ID represent outweighs GOP’s; if “women” are no longer a meaningful category–adult human females–we can’t advocate for ourselves. Huge step backward for Dems. 👎
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95% chance that you and Kara Dansky (and Dana Skinner and Jane Berns and Samantha Johnson) are the same person.
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We all have different writing styles, so nope. And Kara Dansky is the real deal. But there are many of us in this movement.
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Quite similar in my view. And very odd to have a bunch of non-regular commenters with lockstep opinions on one topic show up at the same time. But no matter.
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I know three of them and shared my comment with them. No secret here. Our voices are silenced in the mainstream, so we often comment where we believe there’s an opening for dialogue among our Democratic siblings. Blogs are great for this.
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If you say so.
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Trump is a death sentence for Ukraine and all of Eastern Europe and for NATO as well.
Dare I say I care more about the fate of Ukraine than your hatred for trans people.
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It is the Republican party that has “repeatedly, continually, aggressively, and knowingly thrown women and girls under the bus.”
If this is the real Kara Dansky and she has the chutzpah to say that the Democrats are doing what the
Republicans are doing, then she sounds like one of the (usually mentally disturbed) Jewish people who denounce “evil Jews” and join the white supremacist neo-Nazi party.
Those folks exist – they just are as few in number as those on the left who believe that it is the Dems – and not the Republicans – who are so bad for women that they demand that Dems be defeated and right wing Republicans should win for the good of women! Give us a break, troll.
“Kara Dansky”, do the Dems and teachers union also protect “sexual predator teachers”? Because I suspect you post about that, too.
These folks have been given the same outsize voice that the parents who oppose “sexual predator union teachers” have – a voice that lies and warns people that Dems are out to do bad things to women and children and only voting for right wing Republicans can stop it.
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Kara Dansky opposes all things transgender. She calls herself a radical feminist yet she’s prepared to vote for the most misogynist candidate in our history. Does she care about the Dobbs decision? She hasn’t said. Is she upset because young women today have fewer rights than their mother or grandmother? She didn’t say.
She and her coterie seem to think that children go to school and come home with a different gender. Where’s the evidence? Who does the surgery? The school nurse?
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I call myself a radical feminist because I am one, and I haven’t said a word about how I intend to in this election. You’re just making assumptions. As for Dobbs, I authored this piece for Women’s Declaration International opposing the decision. https://womensdeclarationusa.com/how-the-supreme-court-got-it-wrong/. It starts “The U.S. chapter of Women’s Declaration International (WDI USA) stands categorically and unapologetically in support of women’s and girls’ right to terminate a pregnancy at will, on demand, and without apology.” Of course I’m upset because young women today have fewer rights than their mother or grandmother. That’s exactly why I advocate for women and girls as a sex class. We all should!
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I’m happy that you care about abortion. You are aware that if Trump is elected, he will have the chance to replace Alito and Thomas with people thirty years younger and equally rightwing. Dobbs will become permanent.
Yet you might vote for Trump?
If that’s what a radical feminist is, I’m not one.
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Of course I’m aware that if elected Trump might have a chance to replace Alito and Thomas with younger justices. Dobbs is already “permanent” in the sense that it was decided. I don’t know why you keep saying I an “prepared to” or “might” vote for Trump. I have no intention of doing any such thing.
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When you posted this comment, you implied that Democrats were betraying women:
“This election is agonizing for many feminists who are stuck between voting for Trump (and voting Republican for the first time ever) or voting for a party that has repeatedly, continually, aggressively, and knowingly thrown women and girls under the bus.”
I would not vote for a party that was “repeatedly, continually, aggressively, and knowingly thrown women and girls under the bus.”
Fortunately Kamala Harris has never done that. The Republicans have, along with Republican legislatures and governors.
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Democrats (including Kamala) absolutely are betraying women and girls. I wrote an entire book about it (see my WaPo comment above). Seriously, you might want to consider that a lot of left-wing feminists are angry at the Democrats for this. Many of those of us commenting here (including me) have lengthy histories of left-wing activism. I’ve done abortion clinic defense. I’ve done environmental activism. I’ve worked at the ACLU. I registered to vote as a Dem in 1990 and the only time I have not been a Dem was a few years when I was a registered Green. I, and so many other women like me, understand the ways in which the Democratic Party has thrown women and girls under the bus. You might consider having a look. I have to leave this conversation now, but seriously, there’s something here. We’re not just making it up. Have a great day!
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So will you vote for the evil Democrats or the evil Republicans?
Evil Kamala or nutty Donald?
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Diane,
That’s my point, too. Kara Dansky is no different than the trolls who frequently posted here about the evil teachers union – and the Democrats – who were protecting sexual predators and letting them in the classroom to rape children.
I assume Kara Dansky has also renounced the evil teachers’ union, and would be happy to offer up some anecdotes of an evil pedophile union teacher who hurt a child because of the evil teachers’ union and evil Democrats “protecting” that evil union teacher.
When I hear ugly rhetoric like that used by Kara Dansky and the other hate-mongers who claim the only reason they are fomenting hatred toward teachers’ unions and union teachers and trans people and Democrats is to “protect” women and children from their evil, then I think those people are trolls, regardless of whether they claim not to be.
They don’t want a discussion – they just want to get people to hate union teachers and trans people and Democrats with the same all-consuming hatred that they feel.
Kara Dansky and her ilk have shown by their posts that they would happily throw women and children under the bus and empower permanent far right anti-women Republican rule if they can just hurt those trans people (or union teachers) that they hate so much.
When you look closer at these folks, you will often find their work is subsidized by the far right haters in some roundabout way. Either inviting them to “present” their views for generous compensation, or subsidizing some part of their work.
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This thread disgusts me. Why TF can we not have a CIVIL discussion of these significant issues? All this knee-jerk ranting in response to legitimate concerns is revolting.
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Thanks Bob,
At least you admit these ARE relevant issues that should and need to be discussed. If those on the left don’t understand WHY the polls are so close or WHY so many people are willing to vote for a con-man felon, they should look in the mirror (as they’re screeching!) and see why. Policies affect people and it shows a lack of empathy when those on the left (or right) shout down or deny people the right to express an educated opinion on a topic that negatively affects so many people.
I will NEVER register as a Dem again as long as the party caters to crazy and loud mouthed activist types who only want to get their way at the expense of the majority. I am firmly planted in the center as an Independent. I am happy among my critically thinking and kind “purple” folks.
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Kara Dansky
October 27, 2024 at 3:00 pm
“Democrats (including Kamala) absolutely are betraying women and girls.”
Bob, let’s have a “civil discussion” about this and about how teachers’ union are betraying young students being victimized by pedophile teachers who the union is protecting.
I have never heard of a “civil discussion” that begins with anecdotes about rapists and says that teachers unions – and Democrats – who protect these terrible sexual predator teachers and trans women prisoners are throwing children (and women) under the bus. But maybe you think it can be done.
So let’s talk about who is worse – the teachers union who threw children under the bus when they allowed 97 teachers and employees (in NYC alone) to rape children, or the Dems who threw women and children under the bus when they allowed trans women to rape women in prison.
Which is worse? Let’s have a “civil” discussion, right?
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So much for civil discussion.
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I have to agree with NYC public school parent, these comments appear to be trollish. But OK, maestramalinche is sincere about her concerns. But her fan club really sounds like trolls. I’m not referring to LisaM who is a regular commenter here, she is not a troll.
The left and Democrats are fighting for abortion rights, how is that against women. The left is fighting for women’s rights in general.
Democrats are forcing trans women on biological women? Really? Totally bizarre and over the top BS. From the screeching you would think that there are armies of trans women abusing and harassing biological women.
There are people who want to murder trans women and have done so.
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Go back and read Kara Dansky. We are real people in this fight. If you haven’t heard a radical feminist critique on these issues, it’s a good time to start! Kara Dansky’s research and writing is insightful and convincing. There are many others, particularly on the other side of the pond.
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I am inside a California state prison several times a month. I care deeply about improving the lives of incarcerated people. I am also a lifelong Democrat. I was asked to make a comment here as I hope to open people eyes to what is happening in women’s prisons. I very much did not intend to come off as a troll. California passed a law a few years ago SB 132 that allows male inmates to self-identify into women’s prisons. They don’t need to take hormones or have surgery. It is a big loophole for men that wouldn’t typically claim a trans identity. These are just men that are taking advantage of a law. Incarcerated women are being raped and impregnated by these male inmates. It is incredibly distressing for them as NO ONE will listen to them. The prison advocacy groups will not listen because they are being raped by the wrong kind of male. If you are curious to learn more then look up the case of Tremaine Carroll. He is being charged with raping 2 different female inmates in the space of 24 hours.
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Kara Dansky gave a disingenuous weasel worded non-response when Diane Ravitch suggested she wanted Trump to win.
In other words, Kara isn’t even honest enough to admit that she is posting here because she wants to defeat Kamala and save women children from what Kara says is Kamala throwing them under the bus.
Lots of word salad that says nothing except Kara – like Trump and Elon Musk – once supported Democrats.
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Women do not need a protector. They simply want equal treatment under the law. The government should not be dictating what women can do with their own bodies. That decision should be between a doctor and patient.
I’ve read enough Jane Austen to know that the idea of women as dependent or less than never ends well for women who could not inherit wealth and were largely the property of their husbands in Victorian England. I am old enough to remember that in Pennsylvania that pregnant teachers had to go on leave when their pregnancy reached twenty-four weeks. In the US until 1970 married women could not open a bank account unless the husband cosigned. When I first started teaching in 1970, my father cosigned my bank account.
The GOP and Donald Trump have no intention of protecting women. They intend to control them and return them to second class status. Women cannot allow the GOP to dismantle their hard fought for rights. As the Harris Walz campaigns declares, “We’re not going back.”
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Your reference to Jane Austen reminds me that she radicalized my daughter. Somehow she heard from Austen that women are people too. Then she promptly went from Pride and Prejudice to all those other novels with adjectives for titles. Now nothing can dissuade her from the idea that women are fully capable of being human. Curse you Jane Austen.
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Earth to left-wing bubble: Women are not a monolithic group. We have different opinions on various issues. Each of us prioritizes some issues more than others. Some of us favor unlimited rights to abortion, others favor restrictions at various stages of pregnancy. Some of us believe that traditional public schools are the best way to educate all children; others believe that other options are sometimes better for certain kids. Some of us support massive immigration of all types; some of us support limits on immigration and measures to enforce those limits. On and on for all other issues.
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“Women are more than half of the population. There is no one thing we all want. “
the author of the above article said this. Of course women are not a monolithic group. The left (I do not believe there is a left any more) actually believes this. Trumpism? Not so much. They want monolithic compliance to his ideas, and offer “protection “ in return.
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Absolutlely, choice as defined by Roe v Wade covers all women fairly, safely and keeps their access to health care private. Women do not need their menstrual cycles entered into state data bases as suggested in extremist states and restrictions on their movements in order to track their reproductive capacities. Women should not be defined by their ability to procreate.
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Samantha Johnson,
Earth to right-wing bubble: Women are not a monolithic group. We have different opinions on various issues.
Each of us prioritizes some issues more than others. Some of us favor the abortion restrictions in Roe v. Wade (and vote for Dems), others celebrate the end of Roe v. Wade and are prefer mothers die in childbirth (and vote Republican). Some of us believe that public schools should be supported (and vote Democrat), and others want to use public school resources to subsidize the richest Americans so they can attend private and religious schools that only teach the students they want (and vote Republican). Some of us support regulated immigration that has made our country – a nation of immigrants – strong (and vote Democrat); some of us support whatever limits will return America to the majority white country they like (and vote Republican). On and on for all other issues.
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When Maggie Thatcher ascended the PM throne in Merry ole England, I predicted that the first woman to nee ed the US president would be, like Maggie, a staunch conservative. Then came the nomination of Hillary and Trump, and I figured I was wrong, given that no sane electorate would name Trump President.
The Republicans could have had the White House with Haley this cycle, but they have chosen to self-destruct. It’s patriarchy or bust, and it could be bust. So we might see our first woman president this fall. And I will be wrong again. Hopefully.
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I hope you are correct and the GOP self-destructs as it has become the party of hate and unfettered opportunism. They need a reckoning as they have so lost their way. They have no empathy and turn a blind eye to violence and lawlessness. They have essentially become a Russian pawn. It is shocking that Musk’s connection to Putin is not getting more media attention, especially since he is now Trump’s good buddy. People need to connect the dots.https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/what-to-know-about-elon-musks-reported-phone-calls-with-putin-and-why-it-matters
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Do republicans understand that this election creates a great opportunity.
Right now they support Trump but how many cringe when they are required to kowtow to him and defend some of the inane things he does.
Maybe it would be tough for a year or too, but the best way to get out from under Trump’s thumb is to ensure he is soundly defeated in this election.
They need not go public with their intent, just go quietly into the election booth and vote for Harris.
Once Trump loses they can turn their backs on him and begin to reconstruct the Republican party into what it was meant to be: a party of conservative Americans who understand their job is to work with other Americans to solve problems for the American people rather than create them.
It also ensures that when Trump is found to be cognitively unable to do his job they will not need to follow J. D. Vance.
Go ahead and think about this idea and let it simmer in your brains. It may be the perfect solution for you and your fellow republicans.
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Lots of Trump’s policies are more evil than inane. Women are dying because of the loss of a woman’s right to choose. Extremist states have created nightmare for women with complex pregnancies that have put their lives in danger. Some of the migrant “kids in cages” have not be reunited with their families. Trump separated children from parents without having a clear record of to whom the children belonged! Lest we forget, his administration violated human rights while big donors like the Geo Group enriched themselves. His next administration with a promise of mass deportation would be worse with the added “bonus” of an economic crisis for this country. https://www.reuters.com/world/us/close-1000-migrant-children-separated-by-trump-yet-be-reunited-with-parents-2023-02-02/
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dianeravitch it serves no one to reply to an argument that was never made. I said that trans-identified males are being placed in prison cells with women. That’s easy to verify. I said that around 50% of those trans-identified males are convicted of sex offenses or category A violent crimes, per the Bureau of Prisons via FOI request: https://4w.pub/50-of-trans-inmates-in-federal-custody-for-sex-offences/. In Canada, it’s 45%: https://torontosun.com/news/national/study-finds-nearly-45-of-trans-women-inmates-convicted-of-sex-crimes In the UK, per the Ministry of Justice, the numbers are a bit higher: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/24/government-figures-70-per-cent-of-transgender-prisoners-are/
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Maybe transgender prisoners should be placed in cells with other trans. In men’s prisons, a transgender woman would be gang raped and beaten to death.
The Trump administration supported trans prisoners in acknowledging their gender of choice and paying for medical treatment.
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My brother was a gay male prisoner in the federal system for 10 years. Times have changed and gay men, even effeminate gay men, are not as poorly treated by other prisoners as they once were. However, pedophiles, rapists, and murderers of women and children are in danger in male prisons. The majority of men self-identifying into women’s prisons today are from this group. Effeminate gay men who dress as women to the best of their ability are not part of the current cohort identifying into women’s prisons. They prefer to stay in male prisons in order to be with boyfriends and have same sex relationships. Likewise butch lesbians, some of whom take Testosterone and identify as transmen, do not move to men’s prisons. They prefer the company of women. I know these things are not reported on in the mainstream news, but as the sister of someone who I worried a great deal about in prison, I was relieved to find out that his sexuality did not put him in as much danger as I had assumed. Now that I am involved in prisoners’ rights organizations, like Woman to Woman (founded by ex prisoner Amie Ichikawa), and All of Us or None of Us founded by Darcy Nunn), as well as knowing teachers who volunteer in prisons here in CA, many of the assumptions around what is actually happen are just out of date and wrong.
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diane,
This anti-trans poster has yet to provide a statistic about trans women in female prisons.
How many trans women are actually housed in female prisons in the same cells as female prisoners instead of being housed separately with other trans women?
These folks keep citing the same one example, which seems to be an anomaly (which I suspect is not what it appears) and the idea that bearded male-appearing prisoners are regularly housed with females because they claim to be female is being put out by people who want to hurt trans people (and hurt Dems) and not protect female prisoners from sexual assault.
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I’m not sure if I should reply to you. There are a lot of accusations against me, my feminist friends, and the ideas I’m presenting. I have several trans identified people in my life, and I want the best research available to support them if they decide to medicalize. I assume you want the same as well for people who suffer from longterm gender dysphoria. And I believe in listening to the large numbers of detransitioners and desisters as they have very complex histories to inform us and make a path forward.
The problems faced by women in prison are now common in Western countries and in several states. Dana Skinner linked the percentage of crimes committed by the men who identify as women in another thread here. I stand with the Women’s Liberation Front, Women II Women and the women who are formerly incarcerated working at the badly funded grassroots level to help women in prison. Nothing here is hyperbole. No one can solve problems or fix legislation if they don’t talk to and listen to the women inside. At Chowchilla women are housed in concrete blocks with 8 women; several of these blocks now have males mixed in with them. When a woman complains of feeling uncomfortable, she may get sent to solitary, where she doesn’t want to be. The women tell me that their stress level is quite high. Most incarcerated women have been victims of sexual assault and violence by men. The trans women in the CA system have by and large not been victims of sexual assault, rather they are male perpetrators of assaults. Here is a link to WoLF. Woman II Woman is also a great organization to support – Amie Ichikawa made us aware last summer of the heat conditions out in Madera County. None of the AC units were working during the intense heat waves and many women were denied even ice and open doors for a breeze. The only way to get this information out to the public is through the female advocates who the women trust because they knew them on the inside. https://womensliberationfront.org/chandler-v-cdcr
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https://www.kqed.org/news/11964027/california-prisons-fail-to-uphold-transgender-rights-despite-state-law
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The anti-trans people posting to demonizing trans women in Chowchilla should be ashamed of their lies.
The experiences of a trans woman supposed “rapist”, according to a well-researched and reported KQED report:
“At a hearing to discuss her situation, records show that Acting Warden Michael Pallares told her he would push to send her back to men’s prison. She claimed he was hostile, “calling me a predator, saying that I’m preying on women.”
In men’s prison, Skylit had lived in constant fear of sexual assault. Now she was cast as a sexual predator. Her disciplinary paperwork relied on “confidential sources” to suggest she was faking her status because she “displays very masculine behavior when with the inmate population.”
In isolation, according to grievances and a government claim filed by Orthwein, Skylit’s gender identity was undermined. She had trouble accessing her hormones and WAS DENIED A RAZOR for 40 days straight. She grew a FULL BEARD.
“People screaming at me, yelling at me, calling me a man, and I need to go back to the men’s prison,” she said. “‘Look at the hair on yo’ face.’ [I was] pleading, pleading, pleading, ‘Please give me a razor, please give me a razor,’ and denied every time.”
A psychologist misgendered Skylit in a report, yet noted (DOC) that an extended stay in isolation would likely increase her mental health symptoms.
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Rumors about a rape started circulating. Skylit said she heard it “from like one or two people. It wasn’t big until the next day.”‘They were surrounding me and pushing me and spitting on me and swinging at me.’Syiaah Skylit, transgender woman in California prison
By then, a fictional narrative had taken shape: In those few moments inside the porta-potty, Skylit had committed rape, while Calvin stood guard. To be clear, prison officials never accused her of rape or sexual assault. The girlfriend told them — and KQED — that it never happened. Still, the rumors proved to be Skylit’s undoing.
That next day, according to Skylit and five witnesses, as she was returning from a mental health appointment, she was roughed up on the yard by 12 to 15 incarcerated people who called her “nothing but a rapist.”
“They were surrounding me and pushing me and spitting on me and swinging at me,” she said.
KQED obtained video of the incident through a public records request. There’s no audio, but the grainy image shows Skylit, who had a pass to be on the yard, doing an about-face as a group of incarcerated people in civilian clothes approached her. One appears to throw liquid at her. A few shove and punch her. She gets agitated. At one point, it’s clear that she’s yelling. But she mostly keeps her arms crossed. She never hits back. Still, she is the only one punished.
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Skylit’s case stands out in one crucial way: The false rape allegation went viral. Her chosen and legal names ended up all over the internet. One outlet called her the perpetrator of a “port-a-potty rape.”
That’s because, as soon as the Transgender Respect, Agency and Dignity Act went into effect, an anti-trans organization called the Women’s Liberation Front started working to roll it back.
In November 2021, it filed a lawsuit (DOC) in federal court alleging the law violates the constitutional rights of cisgender women by forcing them to be housed with trans women who still have male genitalia. Simply having them there, the pending suit alleges, “substantially” increases the risk “of sexual harassment, sexual assault, rape, and physical violence, and to psychological fear of such harms.”
The Women’s Liberation Front was looking for a villain. The rumors about Skylit fit its narrative perfectly. Even though there were no eyewitnesses, no prison investigation and a girlfriend who said the rape never happened (DOC), attorneys for the organization gathered hearsay declarations. The attorney handed them over to anti-trans websites and attached them to a motion in the legal docket (DOC), making the declarations public record.
On the tier in solitary confinement, the taunts of “porta-potty rapist” have been endless.
“I tell people, stop calling me that,” Skylit said. “Then, I’m a problem because I say things like, ‘Well, if I’m a rapist, then you a rapist,’ and then it’s like, ‘Oh, now he’s a threat, he’s arguing, he’s aggressive.’ I’m in a cage. By myself.”
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It is worth reading the KQED link to see all the harm done and the anti-trans lies amplified by the anti-trans women’s group these posters all cite. If they are members of what is basically a hate-group, then shame on them all.
Hurting vulnerable trans women in prison for political gain is unacceptable. What is wrong with these anti-Kamala anti-trans folks who can’t make an honest argument for the hateful beliefs, so simply lie. Their actions are right out of the Trump playbook.
Anyone who defends them (talking to you, Bob) should read the KQED link for a heartbreaking story of what these folks have wrought.
Prison officials could have done so much to make all the inmates feel safe and protected, and instead their goal was to tell people that trans women were “rapists” (with help from these anti-trans groups) and make them miserable.
KQED even has video that was used to prove that the trans women were being falsely charged.
“Civil” discussion indeed.
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dianeravitch it serves no one to reply to an argument that was never made. I said that trans-identified males are being placed in prison cells with women. That’s easy to verify. I said that around 50% of those trans-identified males are convicted of sex offenses or category A violent crimes, per the Bureau of Prisons via FOI request: https://4w.pub/50-of-trans-inmates-in-federal-custody-for-sex-offences/. In Canada, it’s 45%: https://torontosun.com/news/national/study-finds-nearly-45-of-trans-women-inmates-convicted-of-sex-crimes In the UK, per the Ministry of Justice, the numbers are a bit higher: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/02/24/government-figures-70-per-cent-of-transgender-prisoners-are/
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You have not provided a single statistic about trans women being housed in female prisons.
However you have repeatedly claimed that half the trans women in men’s prisons are rapists, apparently in the hopes that people who lack reading comprehension will think they are all in women’s prisons, free to rape and assault women. Even though that’s not true.
I will ask you again – HOW MANY trans women are housed in women’s prisons, sharing cells with the women prisoners there?
You keep citing the same person over and over again, the way the Republicans keep citing the same illegal immigrant who murdered a woman.
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Now that I read the report that KQED and the Fund for Investigative Journalism did (I linked to it above), I see how horrible the anti-trans Women’s Liberation Front people are, and I understand why they are posting here and fighting so hard to defeat Kamala so Trump can win. It isn’t surprising that such immoral people would do exactly the same thing that Trump and JD Vance did when they lied about Haitian immigrants eating pets to garner hate against those who were “other”:
“The Women’s Liberation Front was looking for a villain. The rumors about Skylit fit its narrative perfectly. Even though there were no eyewitnesses, no prison investigation and a girlfriend who said the rape never happened (DOC), attorneys for the organization gathered hearsay declarations. The attorney handed them over to anti-trans websites and attached them to a motion in the legal docket (DOC), making the declarations public record.”
What these people did to this trans woman was terrible and it wasn’t to help victimized women – it was to gain some political mileage against the Dems.
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^This is a heartbreaking read that tells you what the members of the Women’s Liberation Front are really about – hate.
https://www.kqed.org/news/11964027/california-prisons-fail-to-uphold-transgender-rights-despite-state-law
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No one is arguing that trans-identified prisoners don’t deserve protection from other males. We are arguing that women aren’t human shields and should not be exposed to assault from any males in spaces they cannot leave. In the UK, separate wings have been instituted for trans-identified male prisoners after attacks on several female guards and inmates.
Nor is anyone arguing that Trump, climate change, democracy, the rule of law, or any other topic broached here as more important than women’s rights to our own words, spaces, sports, etc. are not, in fact, important. We are simply trying to make visible what the media has been complicit in hiding: that women are in danger of becoming legally indefensible as a sex class, because “gender identity” is superseding sex in legislation and public policy. This means a century of work for women’s rights is being nullified.
I personally am not arguing that trans-identified individuals, or gender nonconforming people in general, should not be treated to equal protection and accommodation. But mixing males in female spaces ignores the fact that women have been oppressed on the basis of our biology for millennia, and that forcing us to contend with males as if language were all that matters is a gross human rights violation. You might be surprised at the number of trans-identified individuals who agree with this.
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If I had a daughter who was incarcerated, I might be more alert to this issue. But I have sons and grandsons, none of whom are trans.
Interesting which issues people latch onto. I’m concerned about the future of Europe, reproductive rights, a government that will create housing for the homeless and jobs for all who want to work.
The plight of women who are imprisoned with trans women is not on my list right now.
We all have different worries. You worry about trans women in prison, and I’ll worry about democracy and Europe and Russian aggression.
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We can all worry about all of these issues simultaneously. Those of us affected by the immediacy of the change in Title IX protections for females as a protected class should not need to be told that it’s a lesser issue. A healthy democracy demands that competing experiences and perspectives be shared and platformed, not silenced or marginalized as “rightwing”. My son identified as trans; I was forced to take a deeper look at the evidence for pediatric and young adult transition. I quickly realized that all research that did not conform to the gender affirming narrative was deplatformed and hidden, at times in collusion with the wealthy donors, NGOs, or governmental agencies. I went looking at the evidence coming out of Europe instead and was able to help my son make informed choices about medicalizing his tenuous and frankly quite questionable beliefs about his body and mind. It made me question a lot of my beliefs and shattered my trust in many of the American institutions we rely on, such as medical practitioners, psychologists, health insurance, and research institutions. Here is a list of some of the research I’ve read and compiled over the last several years. We need to decouple our American political parties from transgender/detransgender care for the large and growing population of gender dysphoric people and detransitioners. I fight for rigorous protocols on gender dysphoric youth and adults, and a wider more longterm evidence base for all medical and psychological interventions. Too many of my young tomboy lesbians appear to be taking puberty blockers and testosterone today. They need societal support in being “different,” we can’t use regressive gender stereotypes to convince young people that they were “born wrong”. We cannot become intolerant of difference like Iran and transition our gay people. https://docs.google.com/document/d/1cs8GiekMYZO6ARW5EREYl46uJ6lsx3WtkzMyj6CEj4g/mobilebasic
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I actually agree with you about a lot of this stuff. The good news is the walls are crumbling (albeit slowly) around the “gender affirming care” model of treatment. I think the US will get to a better place eventually, but it will take time.
I assume you follow the reporting of Jesse Singal. He has a book coming out shortly, I think.
All that said, I would not vote for Trump just because of this one issue. There are bigger issues.
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flerp!,
Do you agree that PARENTS should be making those decisions rather than anti-trans legislators?
This person’s son identified as trans and this person didn’t like it. She “helped” her son, and eventually her son will have the right to choose for himself what he wants.
Other parents have lived with their kid all their lives and might be better judges of what it best for their kid than an anti-trans legislator.
In the old days, parents could send their gay kids to a special camp to drum the gay out of them.
Now, these parents believe they can drum the trans out of their kids.
In both cases, parents believed they were “protecting” their kids. In both cases, right wing politicians held these parents up as ideal parents.
But the posts here seem similar to the Trump lie about kids going to school and coming home a different gender. Kids under 18 who identify as trans need parental approval to take puberty blockers and other medication, except in very rare circumstances in which a minor is able to get a court order to circumvent their parents’ wishes.
So the exaggerated outrage here is misplaced. And it is extremely harmful to many children. I know parents of trans minors who are extremely concerned about their children’s well-being because of people like these posters who seem to want to let right wing legislators decide what parents should be deciding.
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The many comments that suddenly appeared here WHEN THE SUBJECT WAS HOW TRUMP AND THE REPUBLICANS ARE BAD FOR WOMEN are by trolls, period.
Only a troll would post:
“This election is agonizing for many feminists who are stuck between voting for Trump (and voting Republican for the first time ever) or voting for a party that has repeatedly, continually, aggressively, and knowingly thrown women and girls under the bus.”
Someone who was NOT a troll like those people here would have posted:
This election is agonizing for many feminists who are stuck between voting for Trump (and voting Republican for the first time ever) because Trump and the Republican party CONTINUALLY, AGGRESSIVELY AND KNOWINGLY THROWS WOMEN AND CHILDREN UNDER THE BUS, or voting for a Democrat who gives trans women too many rights.
That would have been true. Instead these posts don’t say Trump and Republicans throw women and children and lesbians under the bus, they do the opposite and change the subject.
the problem with these right wing pro-Trump liars is their “tell”. Their “tell” is to NEVER ADMIT that it is Trump and the Republicans who throw women and children under the bus with their policies, but instead it is the Democrats who have “aggressively and knowingly” thrown women and children under the bus by imperiling female prisoners by placing trans women rapists in their prisons.
I checked with a California public defender (for 20 years) about whether that was true about trans men rapists being housed in women’s prisons. And it turns out that the right wing trolls posting here have done exactly what the right wing trolls who hate teachers’ unions and Democrats did here frequently in the past when they said that the teachers union and Democrats were “protecting” rapist union teacher pedophiles. They lied, grasping onto one instance to foment hate and fear against trans people. Just like right wing trolls always do.
Any poster here who says that it is not the Republicans, but the Democrats who have aggressively thrown women and children under a bus is a pro-Trump troll, whether they pretend to be or not.
It’s not a coincidence that this group of trolls wanted to change the subject from how Trump does NOT protect women to how Democrats are worse. Or no better.
They are pro-Trump trolls who want him to win. If they are lesbians who want Trump to win, they certainly are not the first lesbians who have been supporting Trump for years. And like Trump, they always are willing to foment hate and lie to get people to turn against the Democrats.
We all saw that here.
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“women aren’t human shields and should not be exposed to assault from any males in spaces they cannot leave.”
This is ridiculous and proves how disingenuous these posters trying to defeat Kamala and elect Trump are.
Of course Kamala does not support this, but this comment sounds exactly like the trolls who kept saying that “children should not be exposed to assault from pedophile union teachers in spaces they can’t leave” and then implying that evil Democrats (and not the good Republicans) support having children exposed to assaults by pedophile teachers, and they always like to include that Dems are “throwing children under the bus” to protect pedophile teachers.
The tenor of all these rabidly anti-Democrat posts here is to change the subject when Diane Ravitch posted about how Trump will NOT protect women.
These posts are to convince voters that Trump WILL protect women from the evil Democrats who – according to this right wing troll – are allowing males to assault women in spaces that women can’t leave.
I despise how disingenuous these folks are. They do not mind Trump throwing women and kids under the bus, but they pretend to care deeply about the supposed epidemic of women in prison being raped by the rash of rapist trans women being housed with them. Except it’s as much a lie as the Dems supporting pedophile teachers.
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None of us commenting here are voting for T, but there are women and men who have changed sides due to these very issues. We should be very aware of how the Democratic party and institutions have marginalized and deplatformed such experiences, perspectives, and research. Indeed, it explains how the Republicans keep gaining ground. Yes, I follow all the major reporters on these issues. My family’s health and resilience has depended on the brave investigative reporters who speak truth to power on the topic of “gender only affirming care”.
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Women and men have “changed sides” because they believe your lie that female prisoners are in grave danger of being sexually assaulted from what these liars want us to believe is a huge epidemic of trans female prisoners being housed in female prisons where they regularly are sexually assaulting the other female prisoners, since you trolls keep telling us that at least half of these trans women prisoners who are ending up in women’s prisons where they can assault women are convicted rapists?
If your lies convinced them to change sides, that’s on you.
Your 18 year old can choose to get a face tattoo, can choose to put piercings all over her body, including her genitalia. She can choose to get a breast reduction to be AA or enhance her breasts to DD. She can choose to get plastic surgery that makes her look like a doll or sit under a tanning lamp for 4 hours a day until her skin is cooked to the texture of a prune.
The fact that some parents are so obsessed with gender issues is about their own prejudices. Who cares if someone who might have been a butch lesbian in the past identifies as a trans man now? Who cares if someone who might have identified as a “transvestite” gay man now identifies as a trans woman?
Why can’t people mind their own business?
I don’t especially like how many young people – even those working in high paying corporate type jobs – now have tattoos all over their body, but they are adults and at some point what they want is what they want, regardless if it is influenced by what is now acceptable.
Bruce Jenner didn’t become a woman because he read about it on the internet and some evil people “influenced” him to become a woman. He spent his life in the closet, hiding what he was.
Young people today don’t have to do that. And it will be okay. You don’t have to like it, but it will be okay. There is no reason for other people’s gender choices to bother you this much. It’s already being addressed in sports competitions but it is clear that this has never been about sports, but about hate.
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Bruce Jenner is NOT a woman and he admits that! Bruce also has ALL of his male body parts and doesn’t take estrogen because it would mess up his sex life….he admits that! Bruce has had feminizing plastic surgery and chooses to wear women’s clothing…period (he has AGP…Autogynephilia)! Bruce advocates for women’s only spaces and women’s only sports and doesn’t inject himself into those situations.
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I have made it a point not to reply to LisaM’s anti-trans rhetoric, but Caitlyn Jenner does NOT use the “he” pronoun.
And I find it offensive that someone here would object if Caitlyn Jenner – after being imprisoned with all men where she was sexually assaulted – asked to be transferred to a women’s prison.
I find it offensive that the “keep potential rapist Caitlyn Jenner in men’s prisons” folks can’t muster up even an ounce of empathy for teenage trans women who are regularly assaulted in men’s prisons because they keep citing the same single instance of a bearded trans woman who supposedly represents the supposed 50% of trans women who are supposedly rapists and supposedly looking for women to rape in a women’s prison.
I get that it’s convenient to scapegoat the evil trans women rapists and blame the Dems for their evil policies that “throw women and children under the bus”
But that’s fomenting hate and division. I don’t understand why hate is so popular in the anti-trans folks that they use the sickest fear-mongering examples to get people to hate.
How is that any different than Trump and Vance citing the illegal immigrant who rapes and murders and blames Democrats?
How is that any different than the folks who cite the predator union teacher who sexually assaults a child and blames teachers unions and Dems?
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The convicted serial liar, lifeline cheater, malignant narcissist, and convicted rapist, fraud, and felon doesn’t know how to talk to women with his voice.
Traitor Trump talks to them with his eyes and hands as the women keep repeating “stop” while trying to escape his groping hands and ogling eyes.
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Trump’s female supporters firmly believe that they and their daughters/nieces/granddaughters will never, ever experience pregnancy complications that could be life-threatening. And, should that every hapoen, they are convinced that they could buy a compliant doctor to take care of that little problem.
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Anyone who thinks that this is a simple, black-and-white issue is a fool.
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Kara Dansky:
October 27, 2024 at 3:00 pm
“Democrats (including Kamala) absolutely are betraying women and girls.”
Anyone who doesn’t think that is right wing propaganda is a fool.
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SPANK WOMEN!?!
Tucker Carlson warmed up the MAGA Minions at a Trump rally in Georgia on October 23 by saying that if Trump returns to the White House, Trump will be like an angry dad coming home: “Dad comes home. And he’s pissed. Dad is pissed,” Carlson shouted. “He loves his children, disobedient as they may be. You know what he says? ‘You’ve been a bad girl. You’ve been a bad little girl, and you’re getting a vigorous spanking right now’.”
Trump’s MAGA Minions roared their approval, and Trump’s warning for women is clear: “You women defied me by pushing for your personal health rights — and now I’m going to make you suffer.”
Every American woman who wants to retain their personal dignity and not become a handmaiden to MAGA politicians must vote for Kamala Harris and for all Democrats at every level on the November ballot, or face humiliation by Trump and his MAGA Minions.
MAGAMOUTH bullies are hammering on you to vote for their candidates — so REMEMBER that your ballot is completely SECRET, and they will NEVER KNOW that you voted against the MAGAMOUTH candidates and issues.
So, use your SECRET BALLOT SUPERPOWER to beat the MAGAMOUTH bullies!
…and the MAGAMOUTHS will never know why they lost.
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“We are arguing that women aren’t human shields and should not be exposed to assault from any males in spaces they cannot leave.”
Another manufactured “crisis” about women being exposed to assault from trans women in spaces they can’t leave.
It’s similar to the manufactured “crisis” about young children being exposed to assault from union-protected pedophile teachers in schools that they can’t leave.
People amplifying every single anecdote about the bad “trans woman rapist” and the bad “union teacher rapist” .
I am quite surprised that you think that those kinds of comments should be the beginning of a civil discussion to amplify a right wing narrative about an invented “crisis” caused by Democrats. Dems support trans women rapists in women prisons, and Dems support unions who protect pedophile teachers who sexually assault children.
Campbell Brown didn’t write her op ed to start a “civil discussion”. She wrote it because she knew that if the discussion begins with “unions protect pedophile teachers, what can we do to stop this very bad thing caused by teachers unions?”, the anti-union folks win.
And these folks who begin with “Dems are exposing women to sexual assaults from trans women, what can we do to stop this very bad thing caused by Dems?”, the anti-Dems (Trump) wins.
It’s too close to the election to give credibility to these people who are simply here to distract from the message that Trump is very bad for women. “No, it’s Dems who are bad for women”, these people say, “Dems let trans women hurt women.”
You can hate me all you want, but I will call this out because this election is too important to fall into the same trap that made the public think that Republicans who ran to fight the evil teachers’ union were just protecting kids from predators. Do you really think these commenters just coincidentally appeared here out of the blue when Diane posted about how Trump hurts women?
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^^This is a reply to the folks defending the anti-trans comments that blame Democrats as the party that is very dangerous for women and children.
This is a reply to the folks that want to have a “civil” discussion about what to do about the evil Dems who keep throwing women and children under the bus and what to do about those evil Dems to expose women to sexual assaults from the trans women rapists that evil Dems put in the same cell as they are.
The only “civil” thing is to point out these people are trolling for right wing Republicans and that’s why they suddenly appeared on this blog to scapegoat Kamala for the epidemic of trans women rapists in prison and the epidemic of trans minors who are brainwashed by “the left”.
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I’m a woman and, in answer to Diane’s question, NO, I do not at all trust tRump to protect me because it’s well documented that he is a misogynist and a sexual predator. I think that trusting him to protect me would be akin to paying “protection money” to the mob and expecting them to actually help me when they are the very people without morals who are strong-arming me for money.
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To: Maestra Malinche, Kara Dansky, Samantha Johnson, Cali Grable, Jane Berns & Dana Skinner,
Who on earth, on the left side of the political spectrum, posts anti-Dem Party diatribes one week before a “dead heat” election between Kamala Harris and… gasp… Donald Trump? Challenging the blog host to “defy left-wing orthodoxy and publicly agree with [Dansky] on these issues“ no less?
This would be people who seek to undermine the Dem Party. The no-I’m-more-liberal-than-you-in-fact-I’m-radicals who pop out and yell Boooo! just as the Dem Party finally begins to dial itself back from neoliberalism toward center/ center-left.
I found a good synopsis of this topic in The Guardian: Opinion, Susanna Rustin, 9-30-20, “Feminists Like Me Aren’t Anti-Trans – We Just Can’t Discard the Idea of ‘Sex.’ Rustin explains the “Beauvoir vs Butler” sides, and clarifies the position of Gender-Critical feminists. Without, I might add, angry language or spurious accusations against the Dem Party. It’s a thought-provoking issue. I’m glad the discussion here eventually turned to pertinent legal issues like Title IX and prison treatment of trans people.
That said: this is not an issue that should be used to rile up sentiment against the Democrats a week before the election.
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Ginny,
Thank you. Theirs was troll behavior. “Radical feminists” attacking Harris in the closing days of the campaign?
Fishy.
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I do not know how to respond to these strangely aggressive and unwarranted accusations. I have to say I’m more than a bit shocked and saddened by how deeply misunderstood I and other women, some of whom I know, have been treated by others on this blog, a blog that has worked for years to defend democracy and public schools as the cornerstone of a functional and democratic society.
I have always been very honest here and on my own blog about schools, students, testing, charters, computer based learning, funding, the trades, Special education, newcomers with limited formal education, and the psychology of adolescents. I have been interviewed for The NY Times and on KQED Forum on education issues. I have been a union leader and I work with students, parents, school board members, and even politicians on education issues. My writing and advocacy have been a form of bridge building to give real life stories of how students and teachers and administrators engage with policies and curricular changes and mandates. I try to humanize and validate the experiences of my colleagues and try to get people collaborating and working with one another across ideological divides. As a language teacher, my deep work is cultural understanding and emphasizing commonalities. How to register and observe with new eyes, how to listen and truly hear one another across borders of language, social class, and political or philosophical boundaries, how to bring people in and not isolate or belittle or marginalize.
However, on the issues that real life Democratic women have pointed out here, we have been insulted, demonized, chastised, and blamed. There are real problems with transgenderism as a social construct taking the place of sex as a natural category recognized and defined by all humans and our cultures throughout millennia. Few of us have felt the effects of changes to Title IX, but more women and girls and boys are being put through this modern experiment of expanding the classification systems each day. As a society we are not examining the cost that such changes are bringing. And yet, many of us are in the crosshairs of these changes. Thousands of athletic girls and women are losing trophies, rankings, and scholarships to boys and men competing in the female category. An immigrant mother and her daughter come across a fully erect penis at a Korean spa in California and are called “bigots” for not accepting him into the female space. Young lesbians are told they must accept any man who identifies as a lesbian into their sexual realm. A mother finds her son likes to dress up and play with dolls, and she is encouraged to transition him at an early age, without regard to sexual development, consent, or the likelihood that he will become a gay man. Women face manipulative men in prison who are not in any way medically transitioning, but merely say that they “feel like a woman” in order to gain access to a sex class of potential victims. Women who find that their husbands have been secretly cross dressing as an obsessive fetish, and now believe themselves to be female because they like to wear sexy female lingerie (though maybe they choose not to do the chores bestowed on women and mothers). Gender non-conforming and autistic young women feeling anxious about their bodies become convinced that their bodies don’t fit the stereotype of what a woman “should be”. Societal misogyny tells those girls that they can escape the male gaze and the oppression of objectification by cutting off her breasts and growing a beard. The ease with which cross sex hormones and puberty blockers and surgeries are available. The social contagion that runs across TikTok and Discord and Reddit that convinces young people that if they feel awkward during puberty or dislike their bodies, they are probably trans. The outright trans medicalization of gay and sensitive youth. All these stories deplatformed and maligned across progressive and democratic spaces, newspapers, radio stations, tv. And yet the stories continue. Countless numbers of detransitioners, desisters, and resisters. An Indian feminist creates an international documentary in her own home on wives and daughters abused and manipulated by men who declare themselves to be women. (Behind the Looking Glass by Vaishnavi Sundar). Detransitioners who suffered untold horrors of medical and psychological harms caused by transition (The Lost Boys, No Way Back, Detrans, Ritchie Herron, Kobe, Carol “Sour Patches”, Maia Poet, Laura “Funk God”, Chloe Cole, Abel Garcia, Richard Anumene, Prisha Mosley, Keira Bell, the list goes on and on). Parents find that their child who is struggling with mental health problems is taken away from the home to live in sad and potentially abusive foster homes where they will be “affirmed” as the opposite sex. Psychologists, medical researchers, doctors, anthropologists, sexologists, and parents form research groups and organizations to help families navigate the Rapid Onset of Gender Dysphoria (ROGD) that the adolescent suddenly displays out of seemingly nowhere (Genspect, Society for Evidence Based Gender Medicine), Parents with Inconvenient Truth about Transition, ROGD Boys. Feminists and researchers write books, get canceled, fight lawsuits: Helen Joyce, Kathleen Stock, Sall Grover, Maya Forstater, Kara Dansky, Alison Bailey.
And the tremendous work done by Dr. Hillary Cass, commissioned in the UK to study the NIH Pediatric Gender Services after several whistleblowers and lawsuits, that finds that there’s no evidence to support child transition, and the UK outlaws and shuts down the practice of prescribing puberty blockers and other experimental treatments for gender dysphoria in modern youth.
Some may caution us that “this is not the right moment” but silently wonder, others may find their deeply held beliefs are questioned and react in defense and irrationally, and others may pause and discuss with others these significant reversals to women’s progress as a fully recognized separate and equal sex class. We must pay attention to these items of utmost concern to so many women, mothers, daughters, sisters, athletes, incarcerated, working class, lesbians, and not shy away from talking to our healthcare providers, teachers, prison boards, representatives, thought leaders, journalists, and female presidential candidates. If there is a growing body of Democrats who feel unheard, harmed, and slighted by our party’s leadership, we have an obligation to get our voices out there, because that is what the democratic process looks like. If the hesitation and frustration among many of us with our party’s leadership is scoffed at, and uncivilly debated here, as in many other spaces, our party is weaker for it. Silence and silencing is not the way.
For a deep dive and explanation I recommend Arty Morty’s long and in depth discussion of modern transgender ideology: https://open.substack.com/pub/artymorty/p/there-are-no-trans-kids-only-kids?r=9benm&utm_medium=ios
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You have not been silenced.
Transgender people also have free speech. They disagree with you.
I don’t judge other people’s personal choices so long as they don’t hurt others. Government should not come between doctors and patients. True for abortion and true here too.
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As far as I know there are no transgender people who have disagreed with me here. The transgender people I know in real life agree and share these concerns. They are not a monolith. Indeed, many transsexuals feel that the way these topics are deplatformed by the left are causing more harm than good. LGBT Courage Coalition is helping to bring these shared concerns to light.
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Thank you, bethree5
You are always so much better at expressing what I feel. I appreciate it very much.
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For the past few years, I have been living with a transgender roommate who does not feel at all abandoned by the Democratic party and who can’t stand tRump. Caitlyn Jenner, as a lifelong Republican who claims to be socially liberal and fiscally conservative, as well as a tRump supporter, is hardly typical of (or a role model for) most people who identify with being trans –or others in the LGBTQ+ community, IMHO.
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No one on these threads is a Trump supporter, as far as I can tell. Certainly not me, and not other leftists who devote volunteer hours working in prisons and / or with detransitioners. There are several Detransitioners who feel abandoned by their former trans communities, by their healthcare, and by lawmakers allowing the protocols for care to be less rigorous and not evidence based. It’s a real problem.
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“No one on these threads is a Trump supporter, as far as I can tell. Certainly not me, and not other leftists…”
Then quit trashing Democrats only a week before such a close and critical election that could be lost to a very sick dictator-wannabe. tRump is so sick that over 200 mental health professionals concluded that they “have an ethical duty to warn the public that Donald Trump is an existential threat to democracy.” They said, “his symptoms of severe, untreatable personality disorder—malignant narcissism—makes him deceitful, destructive, deluded, and dangerous. He is grossly unfit for leadership.” Please read the following full warning from them, because it should be heeded and take precedence over all else at this truly crucial time:
https://www.psychopac.org/open-letter/
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Do you really think you have the right to tell transgender people that they can’t live the life they want?
I don’t.
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I’m confused. I never said that. Read what I wrote. Pause to be curious about multiple experiences.
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You truly don’t think there should be transgender people. They have a right to exist. None of my business.
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No party is perfect, but anyone who thinks the GOP is the party that will acknowledge and respect gender related needs for women or for LGBTQ+ people is living on another planet. If those needs are going to be supported and addressed by any party, it will be the Democrats, but now is not the time to be focusing on that or damning Democrats for not doing enough sooner.
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I truly believe that people have a right to dress however they like and love whomever they want. I’ve been a gender bending non-conforming woman who has been part of the LGB movement since I was in college. I have known many people that choose to present as the opposite sex. But, the right to present as the opposite sex must be mediated in law for safety and fairness in many contexts. I believe you can find many of the contexts in the various answers I have given and others have given here. And I am an atheist. I’m a gender atheist. No one can actually change their physical sex. And, I don’t believe that young people should be taught that their bodies are wrong in any way- whether it’s their height, the color of their skin, their nose, or their reproductive organs. And I despise that for many young people, same sex attraction is a sign that they were born in the wrong body, like so many of my young tomboy potential lesbian students do. I wouldn’t care so much about it if it didn’t go hand in hand with medical experiments. The teens are addicted to the idea of cosmetic transition and don’t have the cognitive maturity to understand that you can’t really change your sex, and you can’t force people to perceive you the way you want them to. They love getting special treatment and celebrations for it. Teens need validation and tribes. But experimental cosmetics that can change you permanently are not the answer. Cross sex hormones on young people can hurt their ability to have orgasms, often put women into early menopause, and weaken their heart, lungs, and liver. And the celebrations can only last for so long. There are plenty of detransitioners who transitioned young and now regret it. Many more than one might imagine. I think Jazz Jennings is a castrated young gay man whose mother preferred having a famous trans daughter over an effeminate gay son. And he will never experience an orgasm; even his trans woman doctor Marcie Bowers said as much. It’s monstrous. His puberty was blocked at Tanner Stage 2, and he was given a dangerous vaginoplasty that has caused him significant physical discomfort. When my son believed he was trans, he received adulation from adults on line for every sexy twink picture he posted. Meanwhile he begged for puberty blockers and cross sex hormones, all of which sound like a pederast’s dream. The whole thing seems pretty regressive and backwards, and an opening for adults preying on young people when they’re most insecure and seek sexual attention. I don’t care about adults. You can wear whatever you want. But, people have a right to know what the medications and surgeries will do, and there must be protocols in place for determining if medical transition will help someone have a more positive and productive life. I know two people that committed suicide post transition- one female and one male. They both had significant mental health concerns; transitioning did not cure them; in fact, it may have made them worse. But a lot of crossdressing heterosexual men I know think they’re trans now. A few of them are not so nice and have issues with women. A couple of them are nice guys, but I worry about them medically. They have shortened lives due to complications. One man I’m friends with who transitioned, including vaginoplasty, is a complete wreck. He transitioned due to extreme abuse as a child. Getting rid of his penis and his maleness seemed like a solution. Now he wears a diaper, is in constant pain, has no relationship prospects, can barely work, and is psychologically worse off. There were many red flags that his team of “specialists” should have factored in. But they went full steam ahead. (You can look up Richard Anumene if you want to know about his story- it is heartbreaking – he was failed on every level).
I don’t think you have really thought about much of this before. I get it. Most people don’t have to. And that’s okay, but it’s worth paying attention to. I am not a wild rightwing transphobe, as it seems many have described me as multiple times here. But I see things quite differently, and deeply. For a somewhat short and insightful take on medicalizing gender distressed children and young people, Andrew Sullivan wrote a scathing critique on those who would say and do nothing about the medically transition of potentially gay youth, and the corruption at the highest levels of government to hide the research. The facts are in; we know this is happening. What are we going to do about it? I’m tired. I think I will retire from posting more. If you are ever interested in talking and hearing more, please feel free to reach out. https://open.substack.com/pub/andrewsullivan/p/rachel-levine-must-resign-2d7?r=9benm&utm_medium=ios
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You are right. I have not paid much attention to this issue. I am generally laissez faire in believing that people, including parents, should take control of their lives and their children. I don’t want governors and members of Vongress legislating how people should live, other than to follow the broadly accepted laws. Some red states have criminalized any trans medical care. That seems wrong to me.
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What part of “now is not the time” was not clear to you? This is exactly the kind of thing that Republicans are concerned about and love to put the blame on Democrats for, even though targeting them as the cause of it is misplaced. Your inability to drop it for now makes it seem like you wouldn’t mind living under a malignant narcissist’s dictatorship. Most of the rest of us would mind a lot, so we take precautions to help prevent that, and I’d appreciate it if you would do so as well.
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ECE, you are so right. I’ve read that the “trans issue” is the GOP’s ace card, that they’ve spent more money on anti-trans ads than on attacking immigration. It’s a cheap attack for them because it’s a cost-free issue. Trans people are few and wildly disliked. They get beaten up, sometimes murdered by strangers.
I said before that this issue is not one that I’ve paid close attention to. I don’t have an opinion other than my gut reaction of not liking it when powerless people are victimized.
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Thanks, Diane! I’m straight but I feel like you do.
Republicans blame the Democratic party and schools for the higher profile today of transgender (and other LGBTQ+) people and their issues, but Democrats are not the cause. Parents should be looking at their TVs and the Internet for that, because there have been a lot of different shows about those populations which I used to watch when I had cable, such as on TLC, Showtime, HBO, E!, Netflix etc. They can be found easily through an Internet search. (I’ve just had free broadcast TV for the last 10 years and 99% of what I watch is on PBS, so I can’t recall all the names of those shows or their stations –except “I Am Jazz”, on TLC, which is about being transgender.)
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ECE,
By citing the many TV shows that feature gay characters, you demonstrate the idiocy of book banning.
The porn on cable is far more vivid than anything in books but I don’t hear Moms for Liberty trying to shit it down. Maybe they l I’ll e to watch porn.
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When I had cable TV years ago, though I’m not gay myself, I had a few different gay friends and roommates and I watched shows about LGBTQ+populations with them sometimes. Some of their names are coming back to me now: shows such as “Queer Eye” on Bravo, as well as “Queer as Folk” and “The L Word” on Showtime. This goes back to the early 2000s. There were other shows, too, including on broadcast TV, like “Will and Grace” in the late 90s. So the exposure to LGBTQ+ populations on TV is not new –and none of it made me gay.
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Excellent points, Diane! Shows on TV and the Internet (where in some cases people can still watch those old shows) are far more explicit (and unregulated) than books in libraries and schools that the crazies are banning. As to why they’ve kept their hands off of these other sources, you may be onto something really weird…
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Speaking of banning books, one of the things that really disturbs me about that is related to ECE, teachers who often have libraries in their classrooms. They are filled with books not only to be read in class, but also a lending library of books that could be taken home for awhile. That’s because parents reading to young children daily is so important –and virtually the only homework I regularly assigned to my Kindergartners (who were learning to read at their own pace), as well as for Preschoolers who I taught.
Some of the books included in my classroom libraries were to help children understand that there are many kinds of people, and different make-ups of families, since my students came from diverse backgrounds and often non-traditional families, which the Kindergartners usually noticed and brought up.
Sadly, I fear these are the very types of books that the crazies would want to be kept from children, since they are so against diversity. You can see the kinds of books I mean here: https://theeverymom.com/22-childrens-books-that-show-all-families-are-different/
I think that many of the people banning books are just as sick as their hateful leader!
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OMG, Diane, you are right! I just remembered happening upon porn sites when I was looking up something for an online course in Human Sexuality that I was teaching, maybe 6 or 8 years ago. I recall being truly shocked because I didn’t realize those sites were out there. I guess I blocked that out because I really hated having to teach that course, but it was the most popular class at the school and they made everyone in my department teach it every semester, so I had no choice –for several years. Ugh! It would be sooo awful if children found sites like that the way I did! What a horrible experience!!!
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Again, this is anti-trans hate-mongering by people who believe that THEY – and not the parents of trans kids – know what is best for those kids.
When they claim to have extra credibility on this issue because they are lesbians, they sound as credible as the far right women advocating to end all abortion rights and get make birth control illegal “to protect women” citing supposed studies that are being suppressed about how much women suffer when they get abortions or because they took a birth control pill that is dangerous to their health. Just being a woman doesn’t make someone more credibility on abortion issues nor on parenting issues.
Their credibility should be shot after reading KQED’s 1 year examination that showed how their anti-trans hate-mongering, especially their lies about the non-existent epidemic of trans women raping other inmates in women’s prisons, was to achieve their anti-trans political ends and not to protect women. Their organization’s lies hurt trans women and didn’t “protect” anyone except the right wing politicians who use them to garner hate against the Democrats – which is why these folks posted to demonize Kamala as a group right before the election.
The shoddy research they cite invokes the same kinds of research used by the far right not too long ago to ban gay parents from raising kids – even their own – because it was supposedly psychologically damaging for a kid to have to be exposed to a gay parent.
I know trans kids, trans young adults, and non-binary kids. It’s a new world and they date across genders and they aren’t hung up on defining themselves in a binary gay/straight way. Perhaps they actually reflect what humans have always been.
For a very brief time, a handful of trans women who transitioned years after puberty competed in sports and some arguably seemed to have an advantage. It would be interesting to know how many trans women were competing in swimming but were mediocre athletes in the middle of the pack regularly losing races to women who weren’t trans. Trans women athletes weren’t dominating women’s sports just because they were trans. And when it looked like a few trans women who transitioned later in life seemed to have an unfair advantage, sports addressed it. And right wing Republican politicians and their useful idiots made political hay out of.
Not to “protect” women, but to hurt trans people and gain political advantage.
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I looked for “KQED’s 1 year examination that showed how their anti-trans hate-mongering, especially their lies about the non-existent epidemic of trans women raping other inmates in women’s prisons” that you mentioned but I could not find it on the KQED website. Could you please provide a link to that?
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BTW, what I did find were older articles about transgender women (M to F) who were inmates in male prisons that were raped and killed by men when housed there with them, and the need to provide safer, alternative housing situations for those women, such as this: https://www.kqed.org/news/11794221/could-changing-how-transgender-inmates-are-housed-make-prison-safer-for-them
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“I know trans kids, trans young adults, and non-binary kids. It’s a new world and they date across genders and they aren’t hung up on defining themselves in a binary gay/straight way. Perhaps they actually reflect what humans have always been.”
I grew up in the 50s and 60s and my mom, who had a huge heart, was a civil rights activist who had very diverse friends, which included people of all races and religions, as well as those who were gay and transgender. She included her children in her activism, so I was exposed to a lot, where we lived in the North and in our many travels through the Jim Crow South. I learned from a young age to be non-judgemental and accepting of all kinds of people, and also to stand up to those who were determined to deny the rights and freedoms of others.
My mom’s transgender friends were binary, while the transgender people I’m friends with today are much like you described, as they are younger and most are non-binary. So I would agree, it’s a different world today –and I’m glad it is.
I just pray we don’t lose our world to this horrific backlash for having had our first black president, and his support of LGBTQ+ rights, due to a racist, malignant narcissist, dictator-wannabe and his crazy, diversity-hating followers who only value their own kind, want to deny rights and freedoms to virtually everyone else, as well as be the ones to determine how we should live our lives.. (I have no doubt my mom is rolling over in her grave.)
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