Eugene Robinson, a regular columnist for The Washington Post, says that Bret Baier intended to make Kamala Harris look bad when he interviewed her on FOX News, but he actually allowed her to demonstrate that she’s articulate, fearless, and strong.
He writes:
One of the people Vice President Kamala Harris might want to thank in her victory speech, if she wins the election, is Fox News anchor Bret Baier. His combative interview Wednesday gave Harris the chance to display qualities — and present facts — that Donald Trump desperately wants to keep hidden from the network’s millions of viewers.
Don’t take it from me; take it from Baier himself. He said afterward that he thought Harris came to the interview seeking “a viral moment” and added: “I think she may have gotten that.”
Baier was surely referring to the exchange about Trump’s repeated threat to deploy the U.S. military against domestic critics he calls “the enemy within” — using the language of totalitarian despots. Baier presented a too-brief clip from a town hall event, aired on Fox earlier Wednesday, in which Trump denied saying any such thing. This was gaslighting: A slightly longer clip would have shown Trump railing against “the enemy from within” and naming two leading Democrats, Reps. Nancy Pelosi and Adam Schiff, as being part of that “sick” group.
Baier obviously knew that — and Harris called him on it.
“Bret, I’m sorry, and with all due respect, that clip was not what he has been saying about the ‘enemy within,’ that he has repeated. … That’s not what you just showed,” Harris said forcefully. “Here’s the bottom line: He has repeated it many times, and you and I both know that. And you and I both know that he has talked about turning the American military on the American people. He has talked about going after people who are engaged in peaceful protest. He has talked about locking people up because they disagree with him.”
Only after having her say — and mentioning that retired Gen. Mark A. Milley, who was chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff under Trump, believes he is a threat to U.S. democracy and national security — did she let Baier move on to another topic.
Practically since the day Harris became the Democratic nominee, Fox News hosts and guests have blasted her for not doing more unscripted interviews. Wednesday’s half-hour encounter was a reminder that we should all be careful what we wish for.
From start to finish, Baier was more of an inquisitor than an interviewer; there was none of the deference that fellow Fox anchor Harris Faulkner had given Trump when she moderated his town hall. Baier repeatedly interrupted the vice president, trying to talk over her and posing questions seemingly cut and pasted from the list of Republican talking points.
Intentionally or not, all of this was a gift to Harris. She stood her ground, refuting the Trump campaign’s claim that she is weak and easily pushed around. She spoke fluently and cogently, putting to rest GOP claims that all she offers is word salad. She brushed off the most tendentious questions, engaged with the substantive ones, and insisted on finishing her answers whether or not Baier liked it.
When he laid an obvious trap, asking whether she thought the millions of voters who support Trump are “stupid,” she sidestepped it with ease. “Oh, God, I would never say that about the American people,” she said — before reminding Baier of some of the vicious things Trump does say about Americans who oppose him.
Harris got to present facts that Fox tries to keep its audience from learning. Viewers heard that Harris had just come from a rally attended by 100 prominent Republicans who are crossing party lines to endorse her candidacy. They heard about the host of Trump administration officials who oppose giving their former boss another term in office. They heard Harris say she does not favor “decriminalizing” undocumented border crossings, despite what some Fox hosts regularly claim.
Fox viewers heard, perhaps for the first time, that Harris has offered concrete plans to boost the economy and support middle-class families. And they learned about all the economists who say Trump’s policies, compared with hers, will make inflation much worse and add trillions of dollars to the national debt.
In a contest that polls show as margin-of-error close, will Harris’s foray into hostile territory make any difference? Who knows. It is hard for me to imagine anything Harris might say or do that would weaken the bond between Trump and the core MAGA faithful. They are accustomed to believing what their Dear Leader says over the “lies” told by their own eyes and ears.
But there are moderate Republicans and right-leaning independents who recognize Trump’s faults but have been told by Fox News that Harris is insubstantial, inarticulate and unqualified. If they watched the interview, they saw a woman whose policies they might not love but who has command of the issues, handles pressure with ease and is nobody’s pushover. Those voters saw a viable alternative to four more years of Trump and his insanity.
Some might think Baier was properly adversarial, others might think he was obnoxiously rude. Either way, the Harris campaign ought to send him flowers.

Harris tried to dodge every question. She knows that the Biden record – her record – is not popular with most voters, so she droned on and on, saying nothing of substance. Her handlers made sure she arrived late for the interview, and they frantically waved at the producers to cut it short. People who are not blindly partisan know this fact.
Here’s an example of someone who is not a blind partisan for Harris or Trump.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2022/09/donald-trump-is-still-a-lunatic/
https://www.nationalreview.com/2024/10/kamala-harris-is-an-idiot/
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It sounds very much like you have confused your opinions with facts. That’s a common problem these days: it happens every time Donald Trump–and most of the members of the fascist organization that used to be the Republican Party–open their mouths.
But hey, party on Garth!
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Nobody cares if she dodges questions because she is running against the worst GOP nominee in history. Your candidate is an absolute joke.
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Trump is not my candidate; neither is Harris. People on this blog assume that anyone who sees any flaws in Harris automatically favors Trump. Not true.
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lol, sure.
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Who never answers a question? Traitor Trump.
Never forget that Trump is a convicted rapist, fraud and felon. Harris isn’t. Never forget that Trump became a traitor on January 6, 2021. Harris supports the US Constitution that Trump wants to replace with his Project 2025.
Donald Trump repeats remark he’d be dictator on ‘one day’ if reelected (usatoday.com)
Also, I do not think Rachel Johnson is unbiased regarding Harris or Trump.
The headlines that claims Harris dodged questions comes from FOX.
“Kamala Harris hit for being vague, dodging questions in recent interviews: ‘She owes us these answers'”
Just like Trump is the liar in chief, he’s also a mean-champion question dodger.
“The Many Challenges of Questioning President Trump”
The Many Challenges of Questioning President Trump (voanews.com)
Harris interview with Fox News showcases a change in strategy for Democrats with network
Vice President Kamala Harris has brought her campaign to a place many Democrats have long considered enemy territory — Fox News Channel
Harris interview with Fox News showcases a change in strategy for Democrats with network – ABC News (go.com)
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Some clown at the National Review says that Harris is an idiot. Why am I not surprised. The National Review has really sunk to a new low of “intellectual” bankruptcy. Me thinks the writer of the article is a closet misogynist.
These trolls all read from the same script: Trump is horrible but Harris is just as bad, blah, blah, blah, blah, etc., ad nauseam.
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To many conservatives it will not matter how bright and reasoned Harris is, they have made up their minds. Some of them are so partisan they cannot conceive of voting for a Democrat. I commend Harris for working hard for every vote, and I do hope she can convince the undecided to vote for democracy and the rule of law.
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Still, Traitor Trump may lose 10 to 15% of the Republican vote. Many of them may have sat out the election and not voted, but now that may have changed. The number of voters for the Republican Party is about 38.8 million
3.88 to 5.82 million voters are not insignificant.
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When Baier asked her why the race was so close and presented the Trump clip, leaving out what he said about going after “the enemy within”, that she said to him, I wish she said, “it’s because your network has lied to it’s audience for years. You’ve been successfully sued & had to pay huge fines for lying. Many of your hosts try to have it both ways by saying that their shows are just entertainment and they don’t necessarily have to tell the truth. Then you should stop calling yourself Fox News”.
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How are the FOX evening shows any different than those on CNN and MSNBC? All of them are very partisan for their respective sides. None of them is worth watching.
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Roger Ailes started the Fox thing, claiming “liberal” bias. Problem is, Fox was started by admission to counter a narrative.
There is news and then there is news commentary. When News drives commentary, it is sometimes legitimate. When commentary drives news, you get Fox.
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Corina: Here’s a clue: The people on MSNBC and CNN tell their watchers to watch Trump at his rallies–as did Kamala Harris. Go to the source and see for yourself.
On the other hand, Fox runs everything through their propaganda machine, and what comes out is . . . guess what: propaganda made from selective gaslighting. CBK
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Corina– to me there’s a definite difference in tone, but I don’t enjoy listening to relentless liberal POV either, even tho I’m a liberal.
For domestic news/ events I stick to CSPAN. (No commentary!) I also enjoy the guests interviewed on their a.m. show – it’s commentary for sure, but they are dutiful about bringing on people from left & right– often both sides represented with a panel of two. Also lots of neutral informative topics. I gave up on PBS Newshour 5 or 10 yrs ago. I gave up on Maddow longer ago, despite her intellect which I appreciate. I liked her better in early yrs when she was mostly digging up & investigating relatively unknown stories.
For international news, can’t beat BBC. I also enjoy Amanpour for int’l even tho she’s quite liberal, because they go into each story with lots of on-scene, indepth, interesting coverage.
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Вернись в Россию.
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Thank you, Zorba. I translated on Google translate. Good advice.
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How about a box of chocolates instead of flowers?
“Life is like a box of chocolates, you never know what you’re gonna get,” Forest Gump referencing his mother’s saying
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How can you cover the news when you become the news? Yes, MSNBC is partial to Kamala, but they don’t twist the truth or downright lie about an issue. Remember Swift Boat?
Ultimately you need to listen to both candidates and fact check their comments. Exaggerating a point and presenting “alternative” facts which don’t even resemble the truth (they are eating cats and dogs) are not the same.
The assault on the capital was not a love fest.
There is so much disinformation out there, if you are uninformed and you hear the lies often enough, you might start to believe them.
It is my hope that the individuals on this blog are a more discerning bunch who can cut through the rhetoric and make an intelligent choice when they vote (and I know everyone here is voting).
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Sadly, my older sister believes that FOX News always tells the truth.
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They make the fake news entertaining and if that’s all you watch that’s all you know. I can’t watch it for more than a few minutes because I know they are twisting the truth.
Your sister (and one of my daughters with a Republican boyfriend) have been brainwashed.
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Diane: Mine, too. Everyone I know seems to know someone else who is also brainwashed by Fox News. CBK
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Catherine– My husband has been intensely involved in learning new instruments/ playing in local/ regional bands for years. One of his most revered mentors has this affliction! Thank god any post-rehearsal conversation revolves almost entirely around music. (He is a dear person so – if/when he vents, listen patiently, period.)
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Diane, I sincerely sympathize. I cannot imagine if any of my 3 siblings turned out anything but flaming liberals like myself. It is a source of solidarity & bonding that adds to the close sibling connection.
Our parents weren’t that. They were Republicans of the mid-20thC genre, who both came around to Dem POV eventually (Mom during GWB, Dad a bit later), mainly due to finding our small family biz was hurt economically by Rep policies developed during & after Reagan.
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Ginny, I have 7 siblings. Two are Trumpers. Can’t talk politics with them.
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Ok everyone. New Rule–Never use the terms Fox and News alone together (unless News is in parentheses). Try:
Fox
Fox (News)
Phony Fox News
Faux News
Fox propaganda
Fox Fantasies
Also, what are the odds that Brett Baier ends up on CNN or another outlet after the election, just like Major Garrett, Chris Wallace & Shepard Smith???
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The mix of consecutive questions and consistent interruptions without allowing sufficient time to respond was at the heart of the recent interview with FOX News, which by the way could be a bit tricky and confusing. In fact, one would think that before answering any questions, time or a pause is needed to digest the information and then proceed.
Literally speaking, the idea of getting into a lion’s mouth and surviving the experience is difficult to believe. But, growing up I heard that if one can think calmly in the face of a lion 🦁, without panicking, there would be nothing in this world that would intimidate you. Perhaps, this idea may be related or resembled to what happened in this interview.
During the discussion, the Vice President demonstrated to be very attentive, and comfortably in full control of the discussion. As we all know best, time will soon tell us the final results.
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Baier’s misogyny was blaring throughout the interview. I suppose, like many other MAGA men,Bret has to bloviate to make up for his shortcomings in other areas.
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Baier kept trying to interrupt her & move on when her answer included information he didn’t want heard. What struck me most about that interview was we always see interview subjects evading uncomfortable questions, but this is the first time I’ve seen an interviewer trying to evade an answer! Loved how she stood up to him & wouldn’t be bullied out of answering his questions when his “gotcha’s” didn’t work out as planned.
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