Trump has repeatedly sneered at soldiers and veterans. He avoided service in Vietnam by getting five draft deferments from a podiatrist who rented a storefront office in Queens from Donald’s father. Fred Trump Sr. asked for a favor and he got it, according to the foot doctor’s daughters.
According to one of his chiefs of staff, General John Kelly, Trump called fallen soldiers “suckers” and “losers.” He couldn’t understand why they served. What was in it for them? He mocked Senator John McCain, who spent five years in a prison camp after his plane crashed in Hanoi. Trump said he didn’t like soldiers who had been captured.
His latest insult occurred recently. While he was President, he conferred the Presidential Medal of Freedom on friends, allies, professional athletes, and contributors. Among them were Congressman Jim Jordan, Rush Limbaugh, Orrin Hatch, and Edwin Meese. One recipient was Miriam Adelson, wife of the late casino mogul, Sheldon Adelson. The Adelsons were one of the biggest funders of his campaigns. Miriam is Israeli-born, and she is passionate in her support for Israel.
On Thursday he said that the Presidential Medal of Freedom–awarded to civilans for outstanding achievements–was “much better” than the Congressional Medal of Honor–awarded to soldiers for outstanding service to their country.
Michael Gold of The New York Times wrote this story:
Former President Donald J. Trump on Thursday described the Presidential Medal of Freedom, which honors civilians, as being “much better” than the Medal of Honor, because service members who receive the nation’s highest military honor are often severely wounded or dead.
Mr. Trump’s remarks follow a yearslong series of comments in which he has appeared to mock, attack or express disdain for service members who are wounded, captured or killed, even as he portrays himself as the ultimate champion of the armed forces.
At a campaign event at his golf club in Bedminster, N.J., billed as a discussion about fighting antisemitism, Mr. Trump recounted how he awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom to Miriam Adelson, the Israeli-American widow of the casino magnate Sheldon Adelson. Ms. Adelson, who attended the event, is among his top donors.
“It’s actually much better, because everyone gets the Congressional Medal of Honor, that’s soldiers, they’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead,” Mr. Trump said, using a common misnomer for the military award. “She gets it, and she’s a healthy, beautiful woman.”
Standing in front of six American flags, Mr. Trump added that the honors were “rated equal.”
Brian Hughes, a Trump campaign spokesman, said that Mr. Trump’s comments referred to “how it can be an emotionally difficult experience to give the Congressional Medal of Honor to veterans who have been wounded or tragically killed defending our country, as he proudly did when he was commander in chief.”
But Mr. Trump’s remarks drew swift criticism from Democrats and anti-Trump Republicans, who argued that he has exhibited a pattern of disrespect toward military service members that has made him unfit for command.
“Donald Trump knows nothing about service to anyone or anything but himself,” a spokeswoman for Vice President Kamala Harris’s campaign, Sarafina Chitika, said, adding that his comments “should remind all Americans that we owe it to our service members, our country, and our future to make sure Donald Trump is never our nation’s commander in chief again.”
Mr. Trump’s remarks also threatened to undermine efforts by his Republican allies to attack the Democratic vice-presidential nominee, Gov. Tim Walz of Minnesota, over his military record. Mr. Trump’s running mate, Senator JD Vance of Ohio, who spent four years in the Marine Corps, has accused Mr. Walz of leaving the Army National Guard to avoid being deployed to Iraq and of exaggerating his service record to claim falsely that he had served in combat…
Mr. Vance on Friday defended Mr. Trump, telling reporters at a campaign event in Milwaukee that the former president was a “guy who loves our veterans and who honors our veterans.” Though he acknowledged he had not heard Mr. Trump’s full remarks, Mr. Vance characterized them as compliments for Ms. Adelson that were not “in any way denigrating those who received military honors.”
Mr. Trump, who never served in the military, has faced bipartisan blowback over his posture toward service members and veterans throughout his political career. While campaigning for president in 2016, he disparaged the record of Senator John McCain, a former naval aviator who was held prisoner for more than five years during the Vietnam War.
“He’s not a war hero,” Mr. Trump said then, adding, “I like people who weren’t captured.” Republicans, many then wary of Mr. Trump, immediately rushed to Mr. McCain’s defense.
Mr. Trump also during that campaign fought with the family of Humayun Khan, a slain Muslim-American soldier, after Mr. Khan’s father spoke at the Democratic National Convention in 2016 and railed against Mr. Trump for smearing the character of Muslims. Mr. Trump argued the family had “no right” to criticize him, and the squabble led top Republicans to voice their solidarity with Mr. Khan’s family.
During his 2020 campaign, Mr. Trump was forced to defend his support for American troops after The Atlantic reported that he privately called American soldiers killed in combat “losers” and “suckers,” setting off a political firestorm.
Democrats highlighted the reported comments as evidence of his contempt for those who serve, and left-leaning veterans groups condemned him.
Mr. Trump has vigorously denied he made those remarks. But John F. Kelly, a retired four-star general who was once Mr. Trump’s White House chief of staff, confirmed the former president’s comments disparaging veterans. And at the time, people familiar with Mr. Trump’s private conversations said that he has long expressed scorn for those who served in Vietnam as not being smart enough to have gotten out of it, as he did through a medical diagnosis of bone spurs in his heels.
In a statement to CNN last year, Mr. Kelly cast Mr. Trump as “a person who demonstrated open contempt for a Gold Star family — for all Gold Star families — on TV during the 2016 campaign, and rants that our most precious heroes who gave their lives in America’s defense are ‘losers’ and wouldn’t visit their graves in France.”
Mr. Kelly’s statement came days after Mr. Trump suggested in a social media post that Gen. Mark A. Milley, his former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, should be executed for treason over calls he made to Chinese officials to reassure them of the nation’s stability after the Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the Capitol by a mob of Mr. Trump’s supporters.
Mr. Trump’s comments about military troops and veterans became an issue earlier this year during the Republican primary, after he insinuated that the husband of one of his rivals, Nikki Haley, accepted a deployment to Africa with the National Guard to escape her. The Haley campaign attacked Mr. Trump’s “anti-veteran record” and distributed an open letter from dozens of veterans that condemned his statements.
Mr. Trump met with Ms. Adelson on Thursday to reconcile with her after he insulted her over text messages sent by an aide at the end of July. When he bestowed the Presidential Medal of Freedom to her in 2018, the White House cited her work supporting “Jewish schools, Holocaust memorial organizations, Friends of the Israel Defense Forces and Birthright Israel, among other causes.”
The Presidential Medal of Freedom, established by President John F. Kennedy, is intended to honor people who have “made an especially meritorious contribution” to national security, world peace or “cultural or other significant public or private endeavors.” A president may unilaterally bestow the award.
The Medal of Honor, the nation’s highest commendation for valor in combat, is awarded to a soldier who exhibited “conspicuous gallantry and intrepidity” that went “beyond the call of duty” and involved “risk of life,” according to the Department of Defense. Being wounded or killed is not a requirement for receiving the medal, which is awarded only after approvals throughout the military chain of command.

The dumpster is SICK! 🤢
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I think what Trump meant was that people who receive the Medal of Freedom have not been severely wounded or killed like most Medal of Honor recipients have been, and it’s better to be alive and in one piece. But Trump has limited knowledge and reasoning capacity to explain himself clearly, so what comes out of his mouth often makes him sound offensive and idiotic. That is, to everyone other than his hero-worshipers and cult followers.
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While what you say was probably part of his “thought” process, he also reflexively recoils at anyone with disabilities and those who have passed away, along with those in the military .I wouldn’t give him ANY benefit of the he doubt.
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Chelsea: I thought so too, but in light of the comments by Kelley and others, one has to wonder. McCain was a “loser,” if you recall.
Even if we assume he meant nothing against Medal recipients, his lack of linguistic prowess seems fodder for an entire press corps that eviscerated Biden for his impending dotage. What employed pundits in the weeks after Biden’s fumbling on the debate stage has seemingly not sparked any interest.
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Yes, that’s right. He was pointing out that it’s better to buy honors than earn them with blood, sweat, and merit. It’s a rather uncomfortable truth about our culture today.
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Casualt: . . . never heard such a clear-headed description, . . . or was it an endorsement? . . . of a deadbeat coward- opportunist hiding under a capitalist transactional mindset before. CBK
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Trump has a well documented history of demeaning people whom he deems lovers, and that has included members of the military, such as thr later John McCain.
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What Trump meant is the same bullshit he has spouted for years, in various iterations, on many, many occasions–that people who get themselves shot or killed in war are suckers and losers. He’s an utter POS.
And a moron.
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Chelsea: I think you might want to learn to recognize a degenerate spirit when you see it. CBK
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Having to fill-in what Trump meant to say is problematic territory for those serving under a Commander-in-Chief. How many times has his aides, analysts, FOX & other media had to back walk or explain his “true” intent, knowing what he says first is truly what he means. Not a desirable trait in diplomatic parlances & outrightly dangerous for the military & our national security. In this nation’s era of de-enlightenment, this man is a threat to our well-being & unfit for any office.
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THIS
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If he meant what you suggest, it buys him no slack.
But of course, that’s NOT what he meant.
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YES
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To become angry with people you think are stupid, empowers stupid.
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An ignorant arsonist set a fire in which one of my daughters was severely injured. I was and am angry at him. He was and is a moron. My anger somehow empowers him? No, I don’t think so.
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Yea that is why 99.99% of veterans support Trump, he took care of the vets. These disgusting spins and lies like the disgusting bounty claim is absurd. Trump saved our military by investing billions and getting us new equipment. Another sad lie to try and discredit Trump when Harris and and stolen valor, tampons in bathroom DUI drinking Walz are pathetic
https://www.thedailybeast.com/us-intel-walks-back-claim-russians-put-bounties-on-american-troops
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Ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha. . . ad infinitum
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i’d love to see your numbers here, because you are pulling this claim out of your hind end. Many veterans do NOT support this creep
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Tristan,
If you are a vet, how can you support a draft dodger?
How can you support a manchild whose daddy got him out of serving?
How can you support a man who calls soldiers “suckers” and “fools”? He was no sucker. He lied his way out of serving his country.
Did you agree with Trump that John McCain was “no hero” because his plane was shot down and he was captured and spent five years in a North Vietnamese prison?
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None of these personae are real people. It’s probably one or two people just trolling all the time.
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In years gone by that first disgusting remark about John McCain would have sunk any person with ideas of nomination.
It says much about the current mental state of the Right in the USA that they of all folk let that remark pass and still support this creature of vacuous ego.
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There is no bottom to my contempt for this “man”.
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Same
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Every time Traitor Trump actually says the truth, his staff has to cover with lies by saying he’s being ironic, its satire, he was emotionally overwhelmed.
All lies.
The real Traitor Trump, who has been stuck in that stage of life called the terrible twos for more than 75 years is a toxic-mold medal Olympic serial liar, a convicted rapist, a convicted fraud and a convicted felon who cheats at golf, cheats on his wives, cheats his mistresses, cheats his employees, cheats the contractors he’s hired, cheats small businesses he’s done business with, et al.
I had to stop. If I wrote the entire list for the Orange ET Toddler, I’d be at it for the rest of the month and still wouldn’t be finished.
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Even the Veterans of Foreign Wars has come out against TFG’s comments.
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Trump committed treason on January 6th along with his Russia Republican enablers.
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Ivanka Trump’s high-school friend Lysandra Ohrstrom, now a journalist, recalls how back in high school, she recommended the book Empire Falls to Ivanka. Ivanka replied: “Ly, why would you tell me to read a book about f—ing poor people? What part of you thinks I would be interested in this?” She grew up in privilege and shunned to pollution of coming into contact with non-privileged persons. To her, people like that–THOSE PEOPLE–were dirty.
The apple did not fall far from the tree. Trump has instinctive aversion to people who deal with physical challenges and often makes fun of them. He is an extreme germaphobe. He considers himself, bizarrely, a unique specimen of human, far above ordinary people who suffer from handicaps or wounds of war. Suckers, he calls the latter. Unlike him. His aversion to people whom he considers lesser–in his vernacular, “losers”–is instinctive. It’s breathtaking ironic, ofc, that a lowlife POS like Trump thinks himself better than others, incuding, again ironically, all the Bubbas and Bubbettes who will vote for him in November–the very people whom he would never in a million years allow into one of his private clubs.
An ignorant, deluded, lowlife POS. Will he forever escape justice, the criminal Teflon Don 2.0? I hope not. I hope he eventually gets what he so richly deserves.
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“MUCH BETTER” than the Medal of Honor!?!
The Veterans of Foreign Wars has issued a rebuke (click below) to Trump for saying that the civilian Medal of Freedom that he gave to his billionaire supporter Miriam Adelson is “much better” than the Congressional Medal of Honor that is earned by our bravest warriors.
Here’s a direct quote of what Trump said: “We gave Miriam the Presidential Medal of Freedom. That’s the highest award you can get as a civilian. It’s the EQUIVALENT of the Congressional Medal of Honor, but the civilian version — it’s actually MUCH BETTER because everyone who gets the Congressional Medal of Honor, they’re soldiers, they’re either in very bad shape because they’ve been hit so many times by bullets, or they’re dead.”
That’s worse than shameful.
Click on this link and read the rebuke that the VFW gave to Trump:
https://www.vfw.org/media-and-events/latest-releases/archives/2024/8/vfw-admonishes-former-president-for-medal-of-honor-remarks?fbclid=IwY2xjawEuCBtleHRuA2FlbQIxMQABHSkxVmh_EqbKfY6kKNse-p9MitrvLf2jz3OJTtAOUXBvZlLakYu4t8AYMw_aem_ZrJAyYM2d6y5N6arXNnfww
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Trump says crap like this to assure himself he deserves to be Mr.Big, in spite of the fact that somewhere in the dim and terrifying depths of his mind he know he’s the only person who sees things that way.
He is one of the few people I’ve watched who has no redeeming qualities. None.
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Jsrtheta,
Word.
Trump has no redeeming qualities.
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THIS!!!! Exactly so. NONE.
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Trump is so pathetically transparent. He compares anyone placed high in public esteem to himself– feels lesser than, and a reflexive need to knock them down to size. His past remarks belittling military heroes [captured/ wounded/ dead] clearly reflect his shame and sense of smallness, knowing that others see him by comparison as a draft dodger whose daddy bought him out of active service. He responds angrily by claiming the tough-guy stance that only fools offer their lives in service to their country.
[Tangential but worth thinking about: this attitude may have been passed down in family from his grandfather, who fled Germany in the night [“immigrated” to US] in 1885 to dodge conscription into the German Imperial Army. But Friedrich Trump’s birth country Bavaria had only been part of German Empire for 15 yrs at that point. Son Fred Trump was of between-the-wars generation, so was never called up, but may osmosed the attitude. I mention it because I remember similar attitudes from Italian in-laws of Greatest Generation. They served, but had mixed emotions about sacrificing life for country in the armed services. They too had grandparents born in other countries that became part of Italy, then they or their children emigrated to yet another country. ..]
Trump’s latest blooper is different, I think. In his childish way, he was trying to make up to major donor Miriam Adelson with this public comment. He had allowed angry messages to be directed to her under his name, having been manipulated by another donor with their own agenda. He chose an event discussing fighting antisemitism to riff on how he awarded Adelson with the medal of freedom [for– giving him a bunch of $$$, while being Jewish and supporting Israel]…[ and then tossing off the gratuitous comment that Medal of Freedom awardees were better off than recipients of Medal of Honor because they were generally in better health– as opposed to being seriously wounded or dead!
ROFL!!!
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Diane…I believe this is one of the very best of all of what has been offered to us. I do not know how I could get it to be read by as many as possible, but I hope those with the ability to make it be read will find ways to make it happen.
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Yes, thanks to Diane for providing a forum that makes plain what a lowlife POS the traitorous criminal service-dodger Donald Trump is.
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