The editorial board of the Orlando Sentinel spoke out against a bill that would declare fetuses to be persons from the instant of conception. Not only would this extend Florida’s draconian six-week ban on abortion, it would outlaw abortion for any reason—rape, incest, the life of the mother. Even if a woman learns early in her pregnancy that the fetus will be born without a brain or has some other fatal defect, she will not be able to terminate the pregnancy. At this time, the Florida Supreme Court is deciding whether to allow a referendum on abortion to proceed; its sponsors have collected over one million signatures. Will the people of Florida have a chance to express their views?
The editorial board wrote:
For Floridians who are already deeply uneasy about women losing the right to control their own bodies, what happened Wednesday in the House Judiciary Committee was truly terrifying. One by one, lawmakers voted yes on legislation that would, for the first time, declare fetuses to be people from the moment of conception — turning wombs into war zones before most people even know they are pregnant.
Bill sponsor Jenna Persons-Mulicka, R-Fort Myers, did her best to hide the radical nature of her legislation, which creates civil liability for anyone who causes the “wrongful death” of a fetus in utero. But everyone in that committee hearing room — and those watching remotely — knew exactly what was at stake. Conveying full rights on a fetus would be a shattering blow to reproductive independence for Floridians capable of becoming pregnant, reaching past debates over viability and bans on abortion at a specified number of weeks. HB 651 would kick in at the very start of a pregnancy, and create an easy stepping stone from wrongful deaths (including from abortions) to anything that threatens the health of a fetus, even if it is meant to benefit the mother’s health.
Floridians should bombard their state senators and representatives with messages letting them know that this potential law is far too radical for anyone who cares about freedom. Then they should turn to their congressional representatives and call on them for legislation to nip this hazardous movement in the bud.
They can start by letting lawmakers know they see through the pretense here. Persons-Mulicka pointed out, more than once, that the language of her legislation (HB 651) specifically excludes a pregnant person. But that’s a nearly negligible speed bump, especially if Florida’s Supreme Court picks up this theme and uses it to obliterate abortion rights in Florida.
Think they won’t? Think again. Justice Carlos Muniz was already hinting in that direction last week, during oral arguments over a ballot question that would (with voters’ approval) explicitly protect abortion rights in Florida.
But advocates of so-called “fetal personhood” think they’ve found a way around that language. By declaring a fetus to be a person, the Legislature and/or court would at best set up a collision course between two competing interests that just happen to share a body — along with the well-being of medical personnel being asked to care for both.
Because the fetal personhood bill does not protect the doctors, nurses and other people who perform abortions, even if the procedure is otherwise legal. Taken in context, that looming threat is clearly a large portion of the intention behind this bill…

Hoping for federal legislation protecting IVF is probably too much to hope for.
The current IVF system is not perfect, but fix “details” such as custody of the fertilized eggs with a divorce will not be fixed by equating a fertilized egg with a person.
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Acorns are not oaks. Eggs or sperm are not persons. Fertilized eggs are not persons. Dust around a star is not a planet.
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Did you hear this one?
“Why did the egg cross the road?”
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HAAAAAAA!!!! ROFL.
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I was trying to make some egg Cordon Bleu, but it turned out a terrible mess.
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I hear you, Ms. Fan! Anything positive from our stalemated Congress is too much to hope for.
A group of baboons is called a flange, a troop, or a congress. The last of these names insults baboons.
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This insanity should be a wakeup call to all rational voters to vote in 2024.
AND VOTE BLUE because our lives depend on it.
I also think this will not be a safe and easy election to vote in, unless they belong to the MAGARINO mafia, who will cheat and lie like there is no tomorrow. With help from Putin.
If the MAGARINO Christian Nationalist movement, with that help from Putin, isn’t stopped in 2024, it will never stop bulldozing sanity into a toxic swamp. Like a stage four lung cancer killing its victims, they will usher in a brutal dystopian future that doesn’t value any life once it’s born. I can’t think of any dystopian film or book that reveals how horrible this possible future might turn out to be.
Does anyone have a film or book that might fit?
Sadly, I think red states like Alabama, Texas, Florida, Tennesse and Wyoming are lost forever to that spreading, evil malignancy.
In Russia, Putin and his war to build a brutal empire is supported by the Russian Orthodox Church. In the United Stats, Putin is support by the Christian Nationalists that support Putin’s puppet, Trump.
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I love it. Alienate more voters. Make clear which party is the extremist party.
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Interesting, isn’t it, how the news is so dominated by what damned fool thing Flor-uh-duh is doing now.
Back when Trump was occasionally playing president, I used to wake up every morning and wonder what the outrage of the day was going to be. This utter imbecile and con man and traitor to his country never failed to provide one.
Well, with Flor-uh-duh under DeSanctus, it’s every other day.
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I agree. It almost appears as though conservatives are mocking themselves with caricatures of their logic.
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I’m not optimistic by nature but I am optimistic about the way the politics will play out on abortion.
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If Trump is elected, the team of Carrie Severino (Judicial Crisis Network) and, Roger Severino, (VP of Domestic Policy for the Heritage Foundation and formerly, a Trump official in the Dept. of Health and Human Services) are already making plans to restrict abortion. The Hill, 2-26-2024, “Ex-Trump officials (Roger Severino) plot sweeping abortion restrictions…”
(BTW- the head of the Heritage Foundation was formerly President of the conservative Wyoming Catholic College).
IMO, Koch has wanted trump to win for some time and, in this go-round, will Bloomberg be as committed to stopping him?
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It’s great to let the public see how extremist the far right can go before an election. It should generate a tremendous backlash at least among women. It also shows what an avalanche of confusion and regressive policy can come from overturning Roe. Actions have consequences, and extremist policies would cause a shortage of Obgyns in Florida.
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There just has to be some manner of metalaw to invoke to automatically cut short such @#$%^&* stupidly foolish law making.
“First articulated by attorney Andrew G. Haley in 1956, Metalaw was the term Haley coined to refer to his hypothesis regarding the proposed existence of fundamental legal precepts of theoretically universal application to all intelligences, both human and hypothesized intelligent extraterrestrial life. Writer Frank G. Anderson proposed that the definition be expanded to cover all intelligent species, extraterrestrial and terrestrial – which would include any/all intelligent animal life.”
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The insanity of all of this is at the moment of conception, it is not a fetus. That is not until the 10th-week mark. They have no understanding of biology. This bill would outlaw the pill and the IUD, which works by stopping implantation.
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worth a read, The Hill, a right wing publication, “Ex-Trump officials plot out sweeping anti abortion restrictions for return to office.” (2/26/2024) As fully expected, no religious derivation for the political agenda is in the article.
Roger Severino, a former Trump official in the Dept. of Health and Human Services who is now the VP of domestic policy at Koch’s Heritage Foundation is quoted. Severino helped draft Project 2025. His wife heads the Judicial Crisis Network.
The public learns daily that right wing, Christian protestants are the sole religious sect that politics as anti-gay, anti-abortion, that promotes school choice, that defines the common good as privatization and, that is pro-Koch economics. The nation would really been in trouble if another religious sect, like that of the Severino’s joined with them.
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Well said, Carol!
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