A few days ago, the New York Times published an article that claimed that Trump is actually a political moderate—not an extremist— whose successes were attributable to the negotiating skills and insight that he learned as a successful businessman. The article was written by Matthew Schmitz, founder and editor of Compact, an online magazine, and a contributing editor to The American Conservative. The title of the article was “The Secret of Trump’s Success Isn’t Authoritarianism.”
At first, I thought the article was satire since Trump has recently been using Hitleresque language, referring to his enemies as “vermin” and warning that the current wave of migrants was “poisoning the blood of our country.” Even Mike Godwin, the guy who coined “Godwin’s Law” —about invoking an analogy with Hitler as a cheap rhetorical trick— said in an interview with Politico that “Trump is actively seeking to evoke the parallel” by his choice of language.
But then I wondered if the Times’ opinion page was responding to an article by James Bennett in The Economist, who was fired as the editor of the editorial pages for running a controversial article by conservative Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton. Bennett complained that the Times’ staff was scornful of conservatives and had become increasingly illiberal and intolerant of hearing from the other side.
Maybe the decision to publish Schmitz’s article was a response to Bennett’s critique.
For me, I can think of a long list of reasons why Trump is no moderate. Here are a few: How is it “moderate” to incite a mob to attack the U.S. Capitol as it was voting to certify the results of an election he lost? What kind of “moderate” would devote four years to denying that he lost an election? What kind of “moderate” would undermine the most democratic of our institutions: the elections? As for Mr. Schmitz, it is indeed ironic that he ends his defense of Trump’s “moderation” with an appeal to the free and fair electoral process that Trump has belittled and besmirched. In Trump’s telling, every election is “rigged” unless he wins.
Judge for yourself.
If the presidential election were held today, Donald Trump could very well win it. Polling from several organizations shows him gaining ground on Joe Biden, winningfive of six swing states and drawing the support of about 20 percent of Black and roughly 40 percent of Hispanic voters in those states.
For some liberal observers, Mr. Trump’s resilience confirms that many Americans aren’t wedded to democracy and are tempted by extreme ideologies. Hillary Clinton has described Mr. Trump as a “threat” to democracy, and Mr. Biden has called him “one of the most racist presidents we’ve had in modern history.”
In a different spirit, some on the right also take Mr. Trump’s success as a sign that Americans are open to more radical forms of politics. After Mr. Trump’s win in 2016, the Russian philosopher Aleksandr Dugin crowed that the American people had “started the revolution” against political liberalism itself. Richard Spencer declaredhimself and his fellow white nationalists “the new Trumpian vanguard.”
But both sides consistently misread Mr. Trump’s success. He isn’t edging ahead of Mr. Biden in swing states because Americans are eager to submit to authoritarianism, and he isn’t attracting the backing of significant numbers of Black and Hispanic voters because they support white supremacy. His success is not a sign that America is prepared to embrace the ideas of the extreme right. Mr. Trump enjoys enduring support because he is perceived by many voters — often with good reason — as a pragmatic if unpredictable kind of moderate.
To be sure, Mr. Trump’s wild rhetoric, indifference to protocol and willingness to challenge expertise have been profoundly unsettling to people of both political parties. His term in office was frequently chaotic, and the chaos seemed to culminate in the Capitol riot of Jan. 6, 2021. In the current presidential campaign, Mr. Trump has promised to appoint a special prosecutor to “go after” Mr. Biden; he continues to argue that the 2020 election was stolen and that America does not have “much of a democracy right now”; his fondness for incendiary language has not abated.
But it is worth remembering that during his presidency, Mr. Trump’s often intemperate rhetoric and erratic behavior ended up accompanying a host of moderate policies. On matters ranging from health care and entitlements to foreign policy and trade, Mr. Trump routinely rejected the most unpopular ideas of both political parties. Voters seem to have noticed this reality: When asked whether Mr. Trump was too conservative, not conservative enough or “not too far either way,” 57 percent of voters in a recent poll picked “not too far either way.” Only 27 percent of voters regarded him as too conservative.
Such characterizations may baffle Mr. Trump’s detractors. But even his most provocative comments since leaving the White House — that he would be a “dictator” for the first day of his second term; that Mark Milley, the former chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff, deserves to be executed for “a treasonous act” — likely matter less to many voters than how he governed while in office. Inured to his braggadocio, they see him now as he was then: less an ideological warrior than a flexible-minded businessman who favors negotiation and compromise.
This understanding of Mr. Trump, more than any other factor, may explain why so many voters have stuck with him, and why, a year from now, we may be looking ahead to a second Trump administration.
Mr. Trump’s moderation can be easy to miss, because he is not a stylistic centrist — the sort who calls for bipartisan budget-cutting and a return to civility. His moderation is closer to that of Richard Nixon, who combined a combative personality and pronounced resentments with a nose for political reality and a willingness to negotiate with his ideological opposites. Mr. Nixon, an ardent anti-Communist, displayed his pragmatism most memorably by going to China. But his pragmatic nature was evident also in his acceptance of the New Deal order, which many conservatives continue to reject.
Likewise with Mr. Trump. Start with his stance on health care, which defies Democratic and Republican positions alike. When asked in 2015 whether he supported universal health care, he said, “Everybody’s got to be covered” and “The government’s going to pay for it.” In office, he proposed an alternative to Obamacare that conservative congressmen denouncedas a “Republican welfare entitlement.” Last month, when he again attacked Obamacare, he emphasized that he didn’t want to “terminate” the program but rather “replace it with much better health care.”
Mr. Trump’s views on Medicare and Social Security have a similar middle-of-the-road quality. “He and I fought about Medicare and entitlement reform all the time,” the former Republican House speaker Paul Ryan complained last year. “It became clear to me there was no way he wanted to embrace that.” In the current Republican primary race, Mr. Trump has attacked Ron DeSantis, the governor of Florida, as a “wheelchair-over-the-cliff kind of guy,” citing votes that Mr. DeSantis cast as a congressman for proposals to replace Medicare with vouchers for private insurance and to raise the eligibility age for Social Security.
On trade, Mr. Trump broke with the free-market orthodoxy popular among Democratic and Republican elites — but out of favor with much of Middle America. Accusing China of unfair trade practices, he placed tariffs on more than $300 billion worth of Chinese goods. Mr. Biden has maintained these tariffs, lending Mr. Trump’s act bipartisan legitimacy. Mr. Trump also pulled the United States out of the Trans-Pacific Partnership, the free-trade agreement supported by the Obama administration. Mr. Trump’s economic record is now his main selling point in 2024. Voters may regard his businessman’s instincts as preferable to the formal training of economists, especially in the face of inflationary pressures that many economists understated.
On foreign policy Mr. Trump displayed a prudence and a willingness to negotiate that was at odds with the strident post-Sept. 11 tendencies of both parties. In 2019, for example, he defied hawks such as Mike Pompeo, his secretary of state, and John Bolton, his national security adviser, by calling off a planned missile strike in response to Iran’s destruction of a U.S. drone. Mr. Trump argued that an attack that could kill 150 people wasn’t “proportionate to shooting down an unmanned drone.”
Among Democrats and Republicans alike, the imperative of condemning adversaries as war criminals and terrorists has increasingly overtaken the conventional art of diplomacy. Mr. Trump, with his love of deal-making, has attempted to buck this trend. In July he rejected calls to prosecute Vladimir Putin as a war criminal, warning that politicians who endorsed this effort increased the risk of escalation by making it “impossible to negotiate peace.”
On social issues, Mr. Trump has also positioned himself as a kind of moderate. Though he championed the overturning of Roe v. Wade and has charged Democrats with supporting laws that make it legal to “rip the baby out of the womb” in the ninth month of pregnancy, he has also broken with abortion opponents. After Mr. DeSantis signed Florida’s ban on abortions after six weeks, Mr. Trump called the move “a terrible mistake.” Mr. Trump’s critics on the right often accuse him of being insufficiently committed to conservative social views. That may be true — but it is hardly an electoral liability. By criticizing both late-term abortions and the most comprehensive restrictions on access, Mr. Trump has managed to reflect the muddled views held by much of the electorate.
Consider, too, controversies over gender and sexuality. Mr. Trump did not hesitate to approve limits on transgender people in the military. But no one mistakes him for a Bible-believing evangelical or Midwestern moralist. His irreverent demeanor and promises to “protect our L.G.B.T.Q. citizens” are a reminder that life in New York’s real-estate and media worlds taught him a rough form of tolerance, however politically incorrect he may be. (Senator Ted Cruz of Texas was pointing to this reality in 2016 when he accused Mr. Trump of embodying “New York values.”) In this way, Mr. Trump represents a conservatism that has come to terms with the fact of diversity, even as it resists the left’s understanding of everything “diversity” should mean.
People on both sides of the political aisle, overlooking Mr. Trump’s moderation, have assumed incorrectly that his rise has been powered by appeals to fringe ideologies. The presidential campaign of Mr. DeSantis offers a vivid example of this mistake.
The campaign has boasted of Mr. DeSantis’s uncompromising conservatism and sought to deploy the quasi-ironic aesthetic radicalism of the online right. One video it created this year criticized Mr. Trump for promising to protect L.G.B.T.Q. people, and bragged that Mr. DeSantis had signed “extreme” and “draconian” laws. Another video made by a campaign aide superimposed a sonnenrad, a symbol associated with neo-Nazis, over Mr. DeSantis’s face. Mr. DeSantis’s subsequent slide in the polls reflects a host of factors, including his reserved personality, but his dead-on-arrival attempt to channel the energy of the online right suggests that its “meme magic” isn’t the reason for Mr. Trump’s success.
To be sure, Mr. Trump has had contacts with members of the bizarre right-wing fringe, most famously in a dinner last year to which the performer Kanye West (now known as Ye) brought Nick Fuentes, an outspoken racist and antisemite. But Mr. Trump differs in significant ways from the extremists with whom he is sometimes identified. For example, he has pushed for criminal justice reform, signing the First Step Act — a bipartisan measure denounced by Mr. DeSantis as a “jailbreak bill” — and explicitly promoting it as part of his outreach to Black Americans.
More recently, Mr. Trump shared on social media the results of a Reuters investigationthat found he was the only living American president who wasn’t descended from slaveholders. (“I hope that every African American in our country is reading this right now,” he wrote. “Remember!”) In the eyes of some conservative critics, Mr. Trump had lent credence to the case for reparations. It is well known that the left objects to Mr. Trump’s record on race, but — more quietly — so does the right. This underappreciated fact may help to explain why Mr. Trump has increased his support among Black voters.
How does one square Mr. Trump’s moderation with his frequent rhetorical excesses? In his 1987 book, “The Art of the Deal,” he offers a clue. He describes his approach to negotiation with a story about preventing a bank from foreclosing on a widow’s farm. When Mr. Trump’s initial pleas are ignored, he threatens to accuse the bank of causing the suicide of the widow’s late husband. Faced with this unpleasant prospect, the bank relents. Mr. Trump observes, “Sometimes it pays to be a little wild.” Whether or not this story is perfectly factual, it illustrates what Mr. Trump aspires to be: a canny negotiator whose outrageous statements help to achieve reasonable settlements.
Of course, Mr. Trump has not been moderate at every moment or on every issue. Looking ahead to a second term, he and his policy team promise to use the U.S. military to attack drug cartels in Mexico and overhaul civil-service rules to allow him to aggressively reshape the federal bureaucracy. His vow to appoint “a real special prosecutor to go after” Mr. Biden should prompt a more serious consideration of the arguments some have made that special prosecutors are inconsistent with our legal traditions.
Claims from Trump campaign officials that some of the most ambitious of these proposals are “purely speculative” and “merely suggestions” may be an attempt to obscure the full extent of Mr. Trump’s ambitions. Or perhaps those proposals reflect his longstanding negotiating strategy of talking big before making more modest deals. A second Trump term may indeed be more radical and less pragmatic than the first; it’s a possibility voters can’t dismiss, but also one that his first term gives them reason to discount.
Immigration is the issue on which the promise and limits of Mr. Trump’s form of moderation will be put to the test. He now pledges a more comprehensive and effective crackdown on illegal immigrants than he achieved in his first term, including the construction of detention camps. According to a recent survey, 53 percent of registered voters trust Mr. Trump more than Mr. Biden on immigration, with only 41 percent preferring Mr. Biden.
Perhaps that disparity reflects a lack of knowledge about the extent of Mr. Trump’s plans. Or it may indicate widespread dissatisfaction with the present state of affairs. In October, staff members from Customs and Border Protection interactedwith more than 240,000 people who attempted to enter the United States along the southern border, and between October 2022 and September of this year, 169 people whose names matched those on the terrorist watch list were arrested while trying to cross.
Indeed, it is easy to overstate how radical Mr. Trump’s record is on immigration. Mr. Biden kept in place Title 42, a Covid-era measure that Mr. Trump had used to speed deportations, and expanded its use before ending it this year. In 2021, Mr. Biden declared that “building a massive wall that spans the entire southern border is not a serious policy solution,” but he has nonetheless extended Mr. Trump’s signature policy. Alejandro Mayorkas, Mr. Biden’s homeland security secretary, acknowledged in October “an acute and immediate need to construct physical barriers” so as to “prevent unlawful entries.” Even Mr. Trump’s promise to construct detention camps is not entirely at odds with current policy: This fall, the Biden administration reopened two camps to house minors who have crossed the border.
It is also worth considering that many voters may not consider Mr. Trump’s excesses to be as unusual as his opponents do. They may regard the events of Jan. 6, for example, as comparable to the violence that occurred after the death of George Floyd (when protests outside the White House resulted in the injury of more than 60 Secret Service agents and more than 50members of the U.S. Park Police). They may regard Mr. Trump’s effort to overturn the 2020 election results as not altogether unlike Mrs. Clinton’s statement that she “would not” rule out questioning the legitimacy of the 2016 election over claims of Russian collusion. Whether or not such equivalences are warranted, they are available to voters who remain angry that Mr. Trump’s opponents, including elected officials, challenged the legitimacy of his presidency even before he first took office — and seem no less committed to the project today.
The idea that Mr. Trump poses an existential threat to democracy is now closely intertwined with taking certain extraordinary legal steps against him. Though the legal merits of the four criminal cases brought against Mr. Trump vary, their political effect, given their timing and Mr. Trump’s continued popularity, is the same: They imply that defending democracy requires burdening, shutting up or even jailing one of the two highest-polling candidates. This is also true of lawsuits filed in several states arguing that Mr. Trump is ineligible to hold office.
If support for Mr. Trump really did indicate an incipient radicalism in the American electorate, such legal actions would be more understandable. Their political costs, however grave, would be easier to justify. But even those who think that some of the indictments of Mr. Trump are well grounded might conclude that the costs of prosecution, given the possible appearance of a partisan motive, are too high — that they pose the sort of threat to democratic norms that they purport to guard against.
For those sincerely concerned to preserve our democratic traditions, there is no need to take such drastic measures. As disruptive as Mr. Trump can be, his success testifies to American voters’ desire for moderation and skepticism of extremist ideologies. In November, Americans may well decide that they again prefer Joe Biden to Donald Trump. But if the United States really is a democracy, they will be permitted to make that choice freely.

Donald Trump is no moderate. That is the most ludicrous thesis I’ve encountered in a LONG time. Trump is a would-be Fascist dictator, but he did not have, in his first term, the knowledge or skill or support to make that happen. If it steps like a goose:
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Is Matthew Schmitz drunk and/or high? Maybe Schmitz got rubles for writing this ridiculous piece.
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good question
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Trump is an opportunistic “let’s make a deal” fat cat. How does that make him a moderate? Perhaps in the twisted world of right wing extremism Trump could be perceived that way. Voters should not confuse Trump’s “art of the deal” mentality with centrist politics. Trump is a serious threat to democracy, and he must not be granted a second term. Democrats need to awaken from their caves and win back the votes of the young and people of color. They need to campaign hard, knock on doors and ring doorbells. Biden is a far better candidate than anyone on the right. All that glitters is not gold. The stakes couldn’t be higher.
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No chat about the other black supreme court member who cannot identify what a women is? Not reporting husbands financials, ohhhh the blinders are onnnnn .Election interference in colorado shhhhhhh, we cant let the people vote for whom they want.
Bob haha a dictator lol, you mean bidens regime of mandated vaccines, lockdowns, compliance, bowing to china, censoring.
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Let’s hear it
What a Women Is,
by Snoop [fake troll name]
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I smell Mikey
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“Though he championed the overturning of Roe v. Wade and has charged Democrats with supporting laws that make it legal to “rip the baby out of the womb” in the ninth month of pregnancy, he has also broken with abortion opponents. ”
What an idiotic statement. Trump is trying to soften what he did because he is running again, and he knows that people are furious because HE WAS RESPONSIBLE FOR THE OVERTURNING OF ROE V. WADE. He was the one who put the “justices” on the court who did that.
Because Trump does not really care about any issue except the welfare of Trump. So, when he thinks it helps him with Repugnican donors and his base base, he will be virulently anti-abortion, and when he thinks it will hurt him with the general electorate, he will attempt to counter the awareness of what he in fact did.
He is an opportunist and a con man and a criminal and a traitor to his country.
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And at the time, Trump was clear about why he was supporting those justices, about the fact that he was looking for ones who would overturn Roe. So, now, Trump is just backtracking, which he can easily do because, again, he has no actual stance on anything except how to work and angle to improve things for Trump. He is an utterly amoral psychopathic malignant narcissist. And so now he is lying. And this writer takes his lies for his actual position. Unbelievable. Gullible much?
When the day comes that Trump shuffles off this mortal coil, my take is that his tombstone should read,
Here lies Donald Trump,
but that’s nothing new.
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What Matthew Schmitz fails to acknowledge is that Trump has no core beliefs. He will agree or disagree depending on his own personal benefit. He is not religious. He has no convictions other than self-interest.
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LOl roe lied about the whole thing, she was paid from the dems, that whole ruling is a farce. Trump allow women to have abortions if raped or incest, relax. Planned parenthood wants those baby parts and cells to sell on black market.
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“Planned parenthood wants those baby parts and cells to sell on black market.”
Evidence?
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Snoop is a Trump troll who says ridiculous things and never has evidence. I have put him in moderation repeatedly so I can screen his comments before posting. He has frequently changed his name and IP number to avoid moderation. I don’t mind letting his comments get posted because they are so Idiotic that they are self-refuting.
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Elves are, you might know, a bit crazy. Clausette cases, all of them.
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Please don’t stop, Snoopy ole buddy, your posts just keep getting more and more ludicrous and funny!
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Snoop is what passes for humor on this blog.
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So, Moses comes down from the mountain. He says, “I have some good news and some bad news. The good news is that I got him down to ten. The bad news is that adultery is still in.”
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So, two psychiatrists run into one another on the street. The first says, “Funny I should run into you. I was just thinking about a recent experience with a Freudian slip.”
“Really,” says the second, “tell me about it.”
“Well,” says the first. “I was having dinner with my mother on Sunday, and I meant to say, ‘Could you pass the dinner rolls, please?’ but I actually said, ‘How come you ruined my life, you bitch?'”
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So, what is Santa most known for, politically?
His solidarity with the Pole-ish peoples.
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Republicans are feverish about Trump and about abortion. They didn’t convict Trump in impeachment because they always insist on carrying a baby to full term.
Thank you. Thank you very much. Thank you all. I’d also like to thank the Academy, my parents, and the internet.
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A cartoon I drew ages ago:
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And lol, very funny, Lefty!!!
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This author does not mention the suggestion on the part of John O Paxton that he felt Trump had, after Jan 6 proven his fascist nature. Should I, his reader, accept the qualitative judgement of a partisan or the measured judgement of the historian of European fascism? That is a no-brainer.
What this author discounts is that all the moderation you see in Trump is a political pragmatism that knows that his constituents do not really believe what he says. They really do not believe that “good people” in Charlottesville hate Jews. They return to Trump in spite of his rhetoric rather than because of it. He makes them feel like he protects their fear of loss. This is why his rhetoric tries so hard to make the populace fear.
This author does not see that this is the first step toward personality cult. But Alexander Duggin sees it. He likes what he sees. And John O Paxton sees it. He does not like it.
I am with Paxton. Freedom depends on civil discourse.
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Dugin and Trump (bad peas in a pod):
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Bollocks. Anyone who claims he will deport 10 million people and build detention camps for migrants is no moderate.
Pull the other one – it’s got bells on.
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Exactly
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Anyone that removes children from parents, puts them in cages and then forgets how to return them to their correct family is no moderate.
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Indeed. In fact, under international law, what Trump, Miller, and Sessions did there is a crime against humanity.
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Which puts them in a category with the Slobodan Milošević and Vladimir Putin and the leaders of the Rwandan genocide. Perhaps Schmidt could write a piece about these guys’ moderation to complement the article on trump.
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AGREE with your comments, retired teacher!
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Also agree with Bob, too. Both of you are “right on.”
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Obama deported more people than any other POTUS. Take off the blinkers.
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James, if you listen to Republicans, all Democrats want open borders. This is nutty, because it was always the big employers who wanted a steady flow of migrants to supply low-wage workers.
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Obama was a right-wing neoliberal.
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Obama bailed out the big financial institutions instead of the little homeowners. Those he let lose everything. He continued Bushy Jr’s illegal war exactly in the manner that Cheney et al. had envisioned it. He accepted a 6-million-dollar vacation home from the woman whom he then named Secretary of Commerce. A right winger. DINO. We’ve had a lot of those.
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Dreck. From a paid off right winger.
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Trump was a “bad” president because he was too similar to the others, not because he was different. What’s more extreme than opposing Medicare for All during a pandemic? What’s more extreme than illegally bombing and occupying foreign countries? What’s more extreme than taxing investor’s income at half the rate of income earned by workers? Half a million Americans spend each night homeless, and thousands of American children go hungry, while politicians and pundits advocate shoveling more tax dollars to subsidize corporations (e.g. weapons manufacturers, fossil fuel companies, insurance, pharmaceutical companies). I’ve heard calls to turn the ship around; alas, the ship is sinking.
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What’s more extreme than opposing Medicare for All during a pandemic?
Good point
And our rates of poverty and hunger among children are obscenities.
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Robert Reich thinks we have more to fear from Trump’s paranoia than Biden’s frailty.https://robertreich.substack.com/p/what-about-trumps-age?fbclid=IwAR1GpN7Kgm0iaDJNcPs1-rrajsj-JuYEZoWhO6ER-snSzb7ZFxnZFveah4U
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What’s more extreme than taxing investor’s income at half the rate of income earned by workers?
Another excellent point.
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James Eales says ” What’s more extreme than opposing Medicare for All during a pandemic?”
Abolishing Medicare completely and (maybe?) giving seniors a voucher to buy health insurance on the private market where the incentives to insure an elderly American who is extremely likely to have expensive health care needs is non-existent.
Privatizing the entire Social Security system and letting retired elderly Americans fend for themselves with no guaranteed income at all.
How shocking to hear someone implying that there is nothing MORE extreme than the workers’ unions who fought to keep their hard won health insurance benefits and did not want to give them up and get Medicare for All instead?
James Eales, workers’ unions who opposed Medicare for All are not the “most extreme” group in America. I WISH they were. The next election will be about whether some people want to empower the right wing Republican Party who are a lot more extreme than the workers’ unions who opposed Medicare for All.
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An artfully done piece of pure crap.
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The paper of record needs an intervention. Have they learned nothing after years of downplaying Trump’s violent, anti-Semitic, bigoted rhetoric?
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Clearly they haven’t, and that is disgusting. It makes them complicit.
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Holy Crap! Trump’s not a would-be Dictator?; not a Neo-Nazi?; not a pathological liar?; not a rapist?; not a criminal?!
No, Schmitz claims he’s a MODERATE! Give me strength!
The horror is that there are US citizens who are “qualified” and registered voters who will believe this load of crap and still vote for this disgraced insurrectionist!
Let’s hope that the Supreme Court of the US decides that Trump’s activities on January 6th disqualify him to hod office under the 14th Amendment, Section 3 of the US Constitution.
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You can only wish you could use the 14th, that will not hold, it was not an insurrection, hope you are not a real professor, believed russia hoax too? All shut up with slinging nazi, thats your party, the party slavery. Obama droned and killed more and deported more. Diane as usual seems confused about border. I know it could be tough, do research on planned parenthood,
https://rumble.com/v1ikiqh-planned-parenthood-exposed.html
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Normally I would delete an insane post like this one but I think readers need to know the nutty stuff that’s online. And that are people who believe this nonsense.
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Really, Snoopy, you should have your own Comedy Central special! This stuff you write is so freaking unintentionally hilarious. Weird and breathtakingly uninformed and crackpot.
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I appreciate Snoopy posting comedy here. He has many aliases. He keeps us informed about the latest crackpot conspiracy theories.
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Yes. It is a great service!!!
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That had to be an opinion piece, pure BS propaganda.
Traitor Trump is an authoritarian micromanaging monster who has failed at being an honest businessman more than once, with over a billion dollars in bankruptcies to get out of paying back loans to US banks.
I want to see a spread sheet that shows the real value of all of the Trump crime family’s holdings and shell companies, compared to how much money the Trump crime family owes to foreign banks and countries in Germany, Russia, China and Saudi Arabia.
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Anyone that admires Putin is not a moderate. Trump has shown himself to be a Russian sympathizer.
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I think he’s a lot more than just a sympathizer.
Where is the missing top-secret binder of raw intelligence on Russian meddling in the U.S. election that Trump told a reporter in April that he ought to show him?
Why did the KGB give Trump an all-expenses-paid trip to Moscow way back in 1987?
Why did both Trump sons tell people that the Trump Organization was rolling in Russian money and so had no trouble with financing?
Why when Trump was going bankrupt and no American bank would lend to him, did Deutche Bank, which has large deposits from Putin cronies, decide to lend a billion dollars to the bankrupt guy?
Why then did bunches of Russians show up in the U.S. to buy Trump properties with cash?
Why did Trump insist that Putin was to be believed instead of his own intelligence agencies?
Why did the Saudis give Kuschner 2 billion dollars?
Why did Trump pull out of the Open Skies and INF Treaties at the very time when Russia was beginning to deploy hypersonic nuclear missiles?
Why did Trump go against his own Joint Chiefs and Defense Secretary and pull out of Northern Syria, abandoning our allies the Kurds to leaving the place to Russia?
Why did Trump repeatedly tell aides that he wanted to get the U.S. out of NATO?
Why did Trump unilaterally, against the wishes of his top military officers, vastly reduce U.S. troop strength in Germany?
Why did Trump praise Putin’s illegal invasion of Ukraine as brilliant?
Indicted international war criminal Tsar Putin the Short certainly got his money’s worth out of his dog Donald.
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And why has Trump not been arrested and charged with espionage, given all this, when any ordinary American citizen would have been?
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Ouch. Whenever I see the claim that “anyone else would have been arrested” I wince, because it’s almost never true.
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OK. Yes. Your point is well made, JSR. But it is astonishing to me how much our intelligence services and justice system have let us down with regard to Trump and various others who are so clearly asset or agents of the Russian Federation.
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Any ethical prosecutor involved in filing cases understands that he/she has no business approving a case when there are flaws in the evidence that make a conviction unlikely.
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Having a Russian asset serve as President of our country was doubtless the biggest intelligence failure since we failed to predict the fall of the Soviet Union, perhaps the biggest in our history. Who know how much damage was done. A lot.
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The Justices of the SCOUS that Trump and G W Bush appointed claim to be Strict Constructionists. They claimed that this view of the Constitution was the reason they overturned Roe. If they read Sec 3 of the 14th Amendment as written and how the authors applied this section after it was passed they will find that 1. Trump was the ultimate civil office holder of the United States; 2. That his speech on January 6 was not protected speech under the Constitution, but was a “campaign speech” and a call for insurrection to stop an official proceeding required under Article II Section 1 Paragraph 3 of the Constitution of the United States falls under Section 3 of the 14th Amendment. 3. Section 3 of the 14 when first applied didn’t require an actual conviction, just documentation of the acts to disqualify individuals from running for or holding office in any branch of the Federal Government. If the Justices of SCOUS don’t rule this way than they are not Strict Constructionists, but are activist judges that they claim to b opposed to. This will be interesting to watch.
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Kenneth, you nailed the Supreme Court’s dilemma. How can they claim to be “strict constructionists” if they ignore the very plain meaning of Section 3 of the 14th amendment?
I expect they will find a way to overturn the Colorado decision but only with extreme hypocrisy and word-twisting. The CO decision even quotes Justice Gorsuch when he was a judge in Colorado. He made a judgment that fit a similar situation.
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Exactly so, Kenneth.
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The 6 have proven many times that strict constructionism is a false flag. If citizens untied did not do it, it ain’t it.
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I was confused when the editorial stated that “Trump governed.” He barely did anything while president (except pass a tax cut that increased economic inequality). I’ve asked fiends and neighbors who voted for Trump to identify one Trump era policy that improved their lives and they always come up empty.
What Trump does is this: he takes all sides of an issue. I recall that in his first few months in office that he met with CEOs and they celebrated him. Then he met with blue-collar leaders and they celebrated him, too. He just tells people what they want to hear. And then does nothing.
He hedges his most incendiary statements to claim he’s misinterpreted. He just talks personal grievance. As for his “bucking orthodoxy” in his trade policies, they yielded no meaningful result that was helpful. If people think that inflation was bad coming out of Covid, tariffs and isolationist economic policy will be worse. (Neoliberal economic policy has been on shaky ground since the Great Recession anyway.)
He talks about Trump and healthcare policy. What healthcare policy? No mention of failed infrastructure updates?
The editorial denies that Trump is out for revenge. The author did a wonderful job of obscuring reality and downplaying Trump’s worst tendencies.
We were only saved from the worst excesses of Trump due to his bungling, laziness and incompetence. He will have willing collaborators this time. It won’t be the same.
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GTA, as I recall, Trump started the day watching cable news. He called that “executive time.” He spent more time on the golf course than any other President. He directed lots of government spending to Trump-owned properties. Foreign dignitaries stayed at the Trump hotel near the White House to curry favor.
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Trump the ignorant is STILL claiming that the additional tariffs he placed on Chinese goods brought billions into our country. He has no clue that the tariffs on goods imported into our country are paid by the American companies importing those goods, who then pass those costs on to American consumers. But journalists don’t call him on this. They just let it slide with the other falsehoods. And his ignorant base eats it up. TRUMP JUST MAKES SHIT UP.
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To be fair, this was noted in many news stories at the time.
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Yes, some did. But, for example, when Trump made this claim at the Republican Convention, I didn’t hear any comment about it from the press covering the events. And I wouldn’t say that a LOT of reporters covered this. Trump made this a standard part of his standup routine.
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So much time plotting; so little for presidenting.
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It was, to use Trump’s own wording, “unpresidented.”
The guy has the vocabulary and orthography of a remedial 4th grader.
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So funny, Christine!
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The article simply says, “I WANT ANOTHER REALLY BIG TAX BREAK FOR STOCKHOLDERS — I’ll put up with anything including riots and tear gas for another mother of a tax break, so here’s a comparison of Donald Trump to Ron DeSantis. Ain’t DeSantis even crazier than Trump!
Vote Crazy 2024! At least he’s not Ron DeSantis. That guy’s too much.”
I wonder if the first draft was written in catsup on the wall, you know, as an homage to the so, so moderate one.
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Haaaaa!!!!
Yeah. The article is a load of Trump. It’s bat-Trump crazy. Justifying him is pushing Trump uphill with a stick. If he is reelected, we are in a Trump-load of trouble. The Trump will really hit the fan.
My mother never mentions his name in her texts. She just uses the little pile of doo emoji. Example:
[Emjoi] is channeling Adolf even more than usual today.
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Aiding the right wing-
Matt Schmitz’ magazine, Compact, was co-founded and is co-edited by Sohrab Ahmari, who is also a contributing editor to the Catholic Herald and a columnist for First Things which advances the belief that religion orders society. Ahmari and JD Vance converted to Catholicism in 2016 and 2019, respectively. An article about Princeton alumni posted Jan 2023, described Schmitz as having belonged to the Catholic “tribe.”
Schmidt’s Compact has recent articles praising JD Vance’s views on governance. Schmitz is cited as opposing what he believes is an American
revival of Godlessness. The alumni article title is , “Princeton has been an incubator of right wing talent over the past 60 years.” The Alumni article, in addition to featuring Schmitz, includes info about the political views and successes of Robert P George and SCOTUS jurist Alito.
Compact “publishes a heterodox slate of religious conservatives…”
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Thanks for the rundown, Linda!
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The 3rd prominent person identified at the Compact site has spent his career in theological departments of universities. His parents were Catholic. He is an ordained elder in the Presbyterian church – Edwin Aporte
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I’m reminded of a line from Werner Herzog’s masterpiece, *Aguirre, The Wrath of God”. A woman, whose husband’s life is endangered by a mutiny, approaches a monk to beseech him for his help. His response:
You know, my child, the Church has always been on the side of the powerful.
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Christine
Thank you for the comment.
I contacted a professor at a Catholic university who wrote, in a major liberal publication this week, about discrimination against Catholics (focus on the 1920’s – a hundred years ago). I deduce that he sincerely believes the discrimination against Catholics has a continuing parallel today with discrimination against Black people. I’m incredulous that people can belong to a church that discriminates against women and gays and, has a history of discrimination against Blacks and, can sill proffer their own religious sect as warranting sympathy.
The Church drives attempts to rob me of my rights and those of others and lobbies and mobilizes voters on issues that lead to GOP voting and, there is the expectation that it should receive respect?
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The Church wrote its own epitaph here in Boston when the extent of the child sexual abuse and its coverup all the way to the Cardinal was revealed.
But it seems there is something similar to Trump Derangement Syndrome at play; our City Council recently went through re-redistricting. One elected official attacked the committee chair for trying to “steal” his “Catholic” seat. He claimed this was due to to her Protestant upbringing and that he was suffering just as Catholics did in Northern Ireland during the Troubles.
That statement was met by confusion and then disbelief by the many new, politically active residents of his district who weren’t alive during the Troubles. To pay us all back, he declined to run for re-election.
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Christine
Thanks for the story from Boston. It can’t get more egregious than the reports coming out of New Orleans.
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Christine, back when the Globe was breaking that story in its magnificent series of articles, I was working at a Boston publishing house. The CEO’s secretary was a wonderful older lady, and I would often stop to chat with her. One day I went to see the big guy, and there she was, crying. I immediately sat down and asked her what was wrong. She had the Globe laid out across her desk.
I have gone to mass almost every day of my adult life. I’ve given my tithes to the church. I have never missed a church holiday. And all that time, ALL THAT TIME, they were doing THIS!!!!! THIS!!!!!! I don’t know if I can go back. They betrayed me. They betrayed all of us.
A friend of mine had bought a house in Malden, MA, near Boston. At the end of her street (in which her two little kids played) was a very large house to which a lot of priests would come and go. It turned out that this was a place they sent priests who had been caught to get them out of the way and out of the limelight until things cooled down.
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Her face as she said those words still haunts me. The poor woman. Everything she believed in and loved came crashing down.
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At the time, my twins were in a public elementary school that hosted a pre-school for 3 year olds, though it wasn’t a part of the the public school system. There was a group of Irish women, immigrants, whose littles were enrolled in the program. The day the Globe published that story they were in the schoolyard contemplating removing their older children from nearby St. Ann’s school and enrolling them post haste into the public elementary. It was spring, not yet enrollment season, and they were in despair they would have to wait for space. Imagine, was the refrain, to think our children would be safer in the public schools!
For me, the most egregious case reported was a family in the Jamaica Plain neighborhood. A woman was raising seven boys because her sister had died and left four children in her care, in addition to her own three. The priest from the local parish offered to help put the boys to bed every night and molested them all.
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When he was president, Trump SCREAMED at his Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security because she said she could not follow his orders to instruct Border Patrol officers TO SHOOT unarmed asylum seekers at our border. When she told him that this was illegal, he said it was no big deal, that they could just shoot them in the legs or something. He has the moral compass of parasitic wasp larvae, and everything he knows came from television.
Ordering people to shoot asylum seekers. Yeah, moderate, that.
When the BLM protests were occurring, Trump demanded that his military go up against the Moms in Yellow Shirts and others involved in these. Esper and Milley refused, knowing that this was an illegal violation of the Posse Comitatus Act.
Using the military for policing functions. More moderation from Donald the Dim-Witted
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You could write a book about Trump’s “pragmatism” and “moderation”
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Does he know the meaning of the word pragmatism?
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How insane are the members of the Extreme Court? The insurrection cases will show us.
If they were a little bit sane, then, of course, they would make sure that Trump is not able to run, and we would probably end up with Nikki Haley as president. She’s the current darling of the rightwing; make no mistake about this, however; she is no moderate. But anyone would be better than Trump, of course, who is actually, literally insane.
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Trump is transactional. That, by its very nature means that he cannot be a moderate. It is not moderation when he has to get what he wants every time. I was very disappointed that the Times would print such an intellectually lazy piece. It’s the same old “don’t listen to what he says, look at what he does” argument (Which now is beginning to align.) I guess all of the caterwauling the legacy media has been doing the past month warning about Trump had to get a taste of the “what aboutism” that has become so prevalent in reporting. Besides, our current problem we are facing is not simply with Trump but a a cadre of autocrats who have been waiting decades for this opportunity.
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Every judge on the Colorado Supreme Court, which voted 4-3 to take his name off the ballot, has received death threats.
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I was listening to a podcast today, I believe it was the Lincoln Project, that speculated what would happen should Nikki Haley get nominated. First of all, the party would experience a significant schism. Second, Trump would never admit that he lost and his most committed supporters would turn to violence. Death threats are far too frequent from MAGA and I often wonder what event would bring those issuing the threats to violence. We worry about the looming Biden vs. Trump campaign, but what would be worse is the fall out should Trump not get nominated. I don’t want Trump to be nominated, but the result could bring traumatic results throughout the country. The uneasy alliance between Christian Nationalists and illiberal libertarians backed by billionaires will fracture through Trumps defeat or victory. This could result in our own reign of terror. It would not be the best of times.
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Paul, I agree with you. Read the articles today about the death threats to the judges in Colorado, even the dissenters. They threaten violence and civil
War. What kind of person elicits this rage?
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Strategy- “…to drive a wedge between gays and Blacks and to make support for marriage (between one man and one woman) a key badge of Latino identity.”
It’s reasonable to conclude that the religious right, men and women like Matt Schmitz and Kellyanne Conway (her recent comment about daily abortions), understand their cause is not moderate. They want to win in order to install an extremist agenda. SPLC posted, 8-31-2016, “Revealed : Conway, Bannon members of Secretive Group- Council for National Policy.”
The politicized religious right poses the substantial risk it does to democracy because a huge number on the left deliberately looked the other way for at least the past decade (and, they continue to do so) so as to avoid confronting the enemy. Polling shows that 40% of evangelicals don’t attend church. They have glommed on to the GOP Christian/Catholic Church agenda.
On 12-6-2012, The Human Rights Campaign wrote about the groups working to defeat a Maryland ballot issue aimed at equal rights. HRC reported that the National Organization for Marriage, founded by Robert P George, contributed $1.2 mil. to defeat the ballot issue and the Roman Catholic Church and the Knights of Columbus funded the campaign with $425,000. Fast forward to 2023, three archdioceses in Ohio spent $900,000 to destroy democracy (ballot issue) in Ohio and the Robert P George-founded American Principles Project was another of the top 5 spenders against democracy which was on the ballot in August.
Worth reading, “Anti-Marriage Equality Donor in Maryland is Active in White Supremacist, Secessionist Causes,” (Dec. 6, 2012, Human Rights Campaign site). It is the source of the quote that began my comment.
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It is inevitable that there will be significant schism between Christian Nationalists and the corporate Republicans. Koch giving contributions to Nikki Haley provides some evidence of this. Trump’s alliance with Christian Zealots will end and it won’t be pretty.
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my opinion- Koch and right wing Catholic power brokers have a future plan for the presidency that doesn’t include Nikki Haley. Koch’s minimal support for her is either distraction or a beginning move towards the goal.
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This is further evidence that there are many bad people throughout the Republican Party.
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I can’t fathom this. He’s a dictator in the making. If elected, he’ll do everything in his power to remain in office after the four year term.
I see legitimacy in your parallel to Bennett. Liberal/progressive leaning people and organizations tend to be more willing to address what might be considered “unfair biases”. I don’t see as much of this in the conservative or (especially) MAGA world. More pragmatic. Win at all costs.
Not so strange that the NY Times would print off the wall OpEds, though. Consider all the wonderful things they’ve said about the state of education in NYC and nationally, over the years!
Trump isn’t very intelligent but he is smart in terms of how to influence people. He knows his audience and how to play to them. Very effective. His is a blunt instrument, but when was a hammer anything but…? There’s nothing subtle about the man.
I’m getting a very bad feeling that the trials won’t happen until after the election. And, should he be elected; not until after his presidency, if at all.
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Trump is a natural charlatan. He has charisma, like other authoritarian people. He’s like The Godfather. He has more charisma than brains or judgement. And he’s a zero when it comes to dignity.
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Insurrectionist. n. One who attempts to overthrow the legally instituted government of a country
What Trump did: Instigate and coordinate MULTIPLE strategies for overthrowing the legally instituted government of our country
Trump: “I’m not an Insurrectionist”
If the Extreme Court agrees with Trump on this, then these people are simply choosing to act disingenuously, choosing not to read the plain meaning of the term. Are the Trumpers on the Court capable of that level of dishonesty. You bet they are. And if they do rule in Trump’s favor and against the state of Colorado, then this will be the case:
Originalism. n. The legal doctrine that originally, in the state of nature, might made right, that what was good was whatever was good for you and whatever you could get away with, and that legal decisions should revert to being based on that earliest precedent.
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I remember how disappointed I was in the Supreme Court’s decision re the Bush Jr/Gore presidential election. That decision had extremely serious repercussions. One would hope that the current justices would take that into account, should they be considering the easy way out (not angering Trump and his base).
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Oh, I don’t think Bush v. Gore will be mentioned at all. Remember, it’s not supposed to be cited as precedent, per the Court decision itself.
The late Vincent Bugliosi eviscerated that opinion quite handily.
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Imagine. No Bush. No second Iraq War.
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Exactly, Bob. And the $$$ directed, instead, towards public attention, acceptance, and potential correction of climate change.
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The rightwing has decided that climate change is a hoax and those who care about it are WOKE.
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From time to time, some reporter makes the trek to Texas to interview George Jr. Still the utter moron he always was. It’s embarrassing to listen to these interchanges. As it was embarrassing to have him representing our country as president.
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I’d like to hear what George W. Bush says about Trump. They are not friendly.
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I don’t think this Supreme Court would agree that Bush v Gore was wrongly decided.
They sh pool r partisan colors today when they turned down Jack Smith’s request for a speedy decision about whether Trump is immune from prosecution for illegal acts committed during his presidency. They punted. If the question must first be decided by an Appeals Court, the Supreme Court is enabling Trump’s strategy of delay-delay-delay. No matter what the Appeals Court decides, the matter will go to the Supreme Court. What’s the point of delaying other than to help Trump push the trial later?
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The Supreme Court declined Jack Smith’s request to hear Trump’s appeal on presidential immunity. Now, The Teflon Don v2.0, Cheeto “Littlefingers” Trumpbalone, gets to do what he does, delay and delay and delay, always putting it off until another day, ’cause only the little guys have to pay. It’s the ‘Merican way.
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I suspect that the Court will reverse on procedural, not substantive, grounds.
But there will be little agreement on precisely what procedure is necessary.
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The Court will find a way to reverse Colorado. Maybe because all states have to have similar open ballots.
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I commented on this article when I read it in the NYT. It is an irresponsible absurdity to move the Times to Trump’s camp. I was shocked they published it. Calling forvall of us to ignore the end of democracy serves none of us.
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Agreed, Olga.
I think the Times published it as a gesture to show how open-minded they are.
The newspaper knows he is a dangerous man.
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Nonethless, it was poor judgment on their part because the article was so moronic. That alone should have kept it from being published.
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Clickbait
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Our court is made up of partisan hacks. Wacko religious zealots and Mr. I like beer.
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Bob, don’t forget the corrupt Justice who likes expensive gifts.
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it was a FEDsurretionn stop watching main stream media!!!! Watch the footage of fbi shooting rubber bullets in crowd and how organized this was, Trump told everyone to be peaceful, it was not an insurrection the election was. Too bad you will not get trump on this nonsense. These leftits judges are sick, colorado supreme court are sick.
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Judges corrupt,
Please stop threatening all the families of anyone who doesn’t support Trump with violence. It is sickening to hear the threats from Trump supporters like you, and you Trump supporters MUST stop your threats of violence and your ugly language.
I already know a lot of people who were considering voting for Trump (historically conservative) but now refuse to vote for any Republican, especially Trump, because the Republican party has been taken over by people using ugly, threatening language.
You may believe that all potential Trump supporters would be happy to see their children or grandchildren who might vote Democratic targeted for “retribution” by Trump supporters who believe Trump will make it legal for them to do so. But you are wrong.
The more you use that ugly, violent language (under various fake names) and show you are a Trump supporter, the more many people who aren’t prone to violence and hate are turned off from supporting Trump.
Given how you post falsehoods here all the time, I have no doubt you will deny that you do this. (“I didn’t write that other post threatening retribution, it was another Trump supporter who just happens to have the same beliefs.”) But the MANY ugly posts implicitly threatening harm to anyone who criticizes Trump speak for itself, as well as the love for Putin who models the behavior you hope will happen in the US.
Don’t bother replying. You represent Trump supporters, which is why many of them are sickened and don’t want people like you empowered. They may be safe from your “retribution” if Trump wins, but they know from Trump supporters’ many postings this year that their loved ones who may prefer a different candidate are not safe if Trump wins. And they don’t want to live in a country with Putin-rule. If they did, they’d move to Russia.
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The shape shifting troll is here with two new names today: Judges corrupt and MAGA.
DONT FEED THE TROLL.
He reminds us how stupid the conspiracy types are.
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I don’t usually feed the trolls, but I do think this country would be a whole lot safer if the NYT, other media, and everyone here called them out directly for what they are advocating over and over again. Trump supporters have told us that if Trump gets into power, Trump will definitely make sure there is serious retribution against anyone who dared to criticize Trump. Starting with Obama. And the NYT ignores what is right in front of their face and fails to report truthfully that Trump supporters are – at best – people who condone retribution against Obama and anyone who didn’t support Trump, and at worst are those who can’t wait to personally enact that retribution themselves because they know that’s what Trump will allow once he is elected.
After all, Trump voters seem to love Putin because he gets retribution against his enemies.
Maybe if the NYT and other so-called liberal media made THAT the narrative – that everyone who votes for Trump supports harsh retribution against Obama and anyone who criticizes Trump, most Americans, even conservatives ones – would be as turned off as the people I know who now understand that a vote for Trump is a vote to enable the violent fascists who believe acting like Putin and giving “retribution” to your enemy is a GOOD thing! That’s what these pro-Trump trolls want.
Some truly nasty people like the kinds who shoot up schools and synagogues would still vote for Trump, but everyone else would go running in disgust because they don’t WANT a country like Russia, where Putin can order “retribution” against anyone he doesn’t like.
In fact, immigrants came to this country to ESCAPE from what Trump and his supporters promise us will happen if we just them and vote for Trump and let him make America into the kind of Putin-led countries their parents, grandparents, or great great grandparents escaped from.
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