Ruth Ben-Ghiat is a professor of History at New York University who specializes in European history, especially Italy, and authoritarianism. On her blog Lucid, she has chronicled Trump’s flirtation with authoritarianism, and she now sees him openly endorsing it.
She writes:
Former President Donald Trump REALLY does not want you to call him a Fascist. Being compared to old-school dictators such as Adolf Hitler or Benito Mussolini makes him and his handlers crazy: he even sued CNN for defamation over this issue (a Trump-appointed judge dismissed the lawsuit). So why is he using Fascist rhetoric?
If you’ve read the news lately, you’ll know that Trump went to New Hampshire on Veterans Day and delivered a news-making speech that included a “pledge” to “root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections.”
As I argued in a recent Lucid essay, violence is now Trump’s brand. To that end, he conjures existential threats to the nation from non-White immigrants and an expanding cast of internal enemies, calls the thugs who are in prison for assaulting the Capitol on Jan. 6 “political prisoners,” and praises autocrats such as Xi Jinping and Vladimir Putin who depend on propaganda, corruption, and repression to stay in power.
All of this is part of his effort to re-educate Americans to see violence as justified, patriotic, and even morally righteous.
But to get people to lose their aversion to violence, savvy authoritarians also dehumanize their enemies. That’s what Trump is doing. Hitler used this ploy from the very start, calling Jews the “black parasites of the nation” in a 1920 speech. By the time Hitler got into power in 1933 and translated dehumanizing rhetoric into repressive policies, Germans had heard these messages for over a decade.
As a historian of autocracy with a specialization in Italian Fascism, the use of the “vermin” image got my attention. Mussolini used similar language in his 1927 Ascension Day speech which laid out Fascism’s intention to subject leftists and others to “prophylaxis” measures to defend the Italian state and society from their nefarious influences.
By the time Il Duce delivered this landmark address, the dictatorship had been in place for two years, and opposition politicians and the press were in prison or had gone into exile. That did not stop him from talking about killing “rodents who carry infectious diseases from the East: the East that brings us lovely things, such as yellow fever and Bolshevism.”
Mussolini loved to make jokes in his speeches to Parliament, and this one elicited laughter —or so says the official transcript. He is speaking about actual rats but, as the Bolshevism comment makes clear, also about Communists. “We remove these individuals from circulation just like a doctor does with an infected person,” he concluded chillingly about leftists and other targeted categories of people.
Trump’s recent comment about undocumented immigrants “polluting the blood of our country” is in the same vein, as are the ideas circulating among his 2025 advance team to deport millions of immigrants and “quarantine” others in massive camps.
Typically, Trump and his advisors took exception to being called out for deploying Fascist rhetoric, resorting to threats that simply strengthened the case against them. As the Washington Post reported, Trump’s campaign spokesman Steven Cheung had this to say about those (like me) who make such comparisons: “their entire existence will be crushed when President Trump returns to the White House.”
Only later did Cheung apparently realize that using Fascist language was unhelpful and claimed that he meant to say their “sad, miserable existence” instead of their “entire existence” —whatever that means.
Some will note that Trump includes Fascists as well as Communists among the “vermin” to be “rooted out” of America. This is classic authoritarian doublespeak. He has to set himself up as the bearer of freedom against all forms of tyranny, even as he signals to left and right-wing autocrats that he will be their staunch ally if he manages to win his “final battle” and return to the White House.
“When two irreducible elements are locked in a struggle, the only solution is force,” Mussolini said on Jan. 3, 1925, as he declared the start of dictatorship in Italy. America may never become a one-party state on the classic Fascist model, but Trump and his GOP enablers carry forth this Fascist mentality. We must take their speech seriously as declarations of intent to wreck American democracy and engage in persecution on a large scale as part of that process.

This is very low for you Diane, wow. Trump Fascist? Nazi? Can you talk about your president.
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Yes, I can talk about my President.
Joe Biden is wise, experienced, and steady. I sleep better at night knowing he is president.
When Trump was in office, I woke up daily wondering and worrying what crazy thing he would do or say. I was terrified daily about what he might do.
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Jamal, when you speak about prosecuting your political enemies, weaponizing the Justice Department (as Trump did with Sessions and Barr), when you call your enemies “vermin,” that’s frightening.
What do you do with vermin? You kill them.
Are Democrats “radicals, Communists, fascists, thugs” etc. No, they are the other party.
This is the language of war and hate.
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Diane is exactly right about this, and your comment is bizarre. If you aren’t aware of this FACT (that Trump is a Fascist), then you clearly HAVE NOT BEEN PAYING ATTENTION.
Is Trump a fascist? Well, if it steps like a goose:
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And now this Fascist (call it what it is) is saying that he plans to jail all his political opponents and establish concentration camps. This is no exaggeration. It is precisely what he has been saying. Of course, the man is utterly incompetent, but he is clear about his intention.
“By their fruits ye shall know them.” Matt 7:20, KJV
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/the-is-donald-trump-a-fascist-debate-has-been-ended-by-donald-trump/ar-AA1jVktW?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=130b59622f0c44a79bb132421ae46c24&ei=13
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Stephen “Goebbels” Miller gets very, ahem, aroused when his Glorious Leader talks this way.
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The country should keep in mind that DeSantis is another fascist ‘mini me’ is waiting in the wings. Unleashed, he is also dangerous like Trump, but he is smarter and less transparent. He has turned Florida into a tiny banana republic in which DeSantis uses his office to quash rivals and dissenters.
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You are spot-on about both Trump and DeFacist…two peas in a pod…only Trump is stupid, crude and loud and DeFacist is deviously smart and cunning, but very dangerous !!!!
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lol sleep better at night? 15 million people flooding our country, many military aged men, israelis slaughtered, wars all over, 30% plus inflation, go walk down the street at night see how that works out. Trump had no wars, always safe, border secure. Astonishing how gone you are.
Bob is very unhinged with Trump, Biden seems ok with, very scary.
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It’s breathtaking how confused you are, “Jamal.”
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I sleep better at night knowing that a sentient, intelligent, kind person is in the White House. I was terrified every day for four years of Trump’s tenure that he was giving or selling our secrets to Putin or the dictator of North Korea. I live in NYC, where I have lived for most of 60 years. Donald has always been a joke. A guy known for hanging out with bimbos at nightclubs, a guy who brags a lot but stiffs subcontractors, a guy who took out a full-page ad in The NY Times to demand the death penalty for the “Central Park 5,” who were arrested for allegedly raping a runner in Central Park. The 5 were subsequently exonerated after a criminal confessed to the crime. Donald was widely known as a playboy, a liar, and an unethical businessman.
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The astonishing thing is that one can live to be in one’s seventies, like Trump, and be as ignorant as he is of almost everything. This is the guy who thought
we should try injecting disinfectants
we should send astronauts to the sun
stealth airplanes are actually invisible
Denmark would be interested in selling Greenland to us
Frederick Douglass is alive and “doing a great job”
the Secretary of the Department of Homeland Security could simply order Border Patrol officers to SHOOT legal asylum seekers
China pays the tariffs we put on Chinese goods
he ran against and beat Obama
Alabama is on the East Coast of the United States
a screening for dementia was an intelligence test
the military can legally be used in the United States as a police force any time the president says so
Article 2 of the Constitution gives the president the power to do whatever he wants to do, without restriction
A regular commenter here years ago dubbed him simply “The Idiot.”
And, of course, almost everyone who ever worked for him in the White House agrees with that assessment, calls him, now, an idiot, a moron, someone with the understanding of a third grader.
So, given all this, what does that say about people who continue to support him? Clearly, there is nothing so stupid that he might do or say that would cause these people to change their opinions of the orange slime.
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Jamal– if you imagine that only Bob S & Diane disagree with your take on things, I think as a frequent commenter here for 15 yrs I can say with authority: the rest of us don’t even bother to reason with wrong-headed, info-free diatribes such as yours.
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Then there is this…Bannon is the puppet master..https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh4NE0EFL7U&t=641s
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It’s time for Bannon to go to prison where he belongs. How long will these appeals go on?
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Good question. He is also under indictment for his “Build the Wall” grift. Much of what Trump says mimics Bannon. He may be more a “Stalinist” than the Leninist he claims to be.
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Traitor Trump often slanders and libels others with no evidence that would stand up in court by accusing them of things he’s done and is still doing.
When the traitor said I “pledge” to “root out the communists, Marxists, fascists and the radical left thugs that live like vermin within the confines of our country that lie and steal and cheat on elections.”
This is what the traitor really meant when he said that:
“As a ruthless malignant narcissist, psychopath, sociopath, family crime boss, cheat, serial liar, fraud, and so much more nasty stuff that I’m proud of, I ‘pledge’ to root out anyone that won’t kowtow to me on their hands and knees, and pledge their loyalty to me and only me. I’ll call my enemies that won’t do that whatever I want and find them guilty of being communists, Marxists, fascists, radical left thugs, vermin, liars, thieves and cheats without any evidence to back it up, and find them guilty, without that worthless, stupid U.S. Constitution getting in my way.”
If the traitor wins through the Electoral College in 2024, the National Archives museum should immediately send the original Declaration of Indepence, Constitution of the United States and Bill of Rights into hiding somewhere in the world, since Great Leader Trump will send some of his ruthless loyalist agents to confiscate them, with violence if need be, will then use them for toilet paper and flush them out of existence, if he gets the chance. I have no doubts that Traitor Trump seethes with hate for those documents getting in his way to grab power after his violent coup attempt on January 6, 2021 failed.
I think Trump already has canned propoganda ready for the media to print on page one or else.
To survive and stay out of the traitor’s concentration camps, the media will print that Trump is a “great leader” and say under that great leader, his country will have “tremendous economic potential, unbelievable, unlimited” and he will do whatever it takes to make sure the United States [the traitor already said this about Kim in North Korea] achieves those goals.
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I listened to her book, “Strongmen” & highly recommend it to every freedom loving American. That’s because our own Fascist ego-maniacal narcissist Trump (more like his far more intelligent handlers like Stephen Miller & Steve Bannon) is using the Fascist playbook to a tee. It’s sad how people have asked how could the Germans have allowed Hitler to gain power & do what he did? Yet, too many Americans are falling for the same techniques that Hitler & his handlers like Goebbels & Himmler used to pacify, convince & coerce the German masses to fall in line with their efforts to “Make Germany Great Again”. Sound familiar???
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I second your recommendation of Strongmen. Superb.
I wrote this, lol, before reading that book:
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