Hatred is corrosive. It dehumanizes its perpetrators, as well as its victims. The Israel Defense Forces collected the contents of body cameras worn by terrorists on October 7. It showed these videos to journalists. One who saw the display was Graeme Wood of The Atlantic. I hope and pray that Israel does not invade Gaza. The bloodshed on all sides would be horrendous. I pray for Netanyahu’s ouster. I pray for peace. The Biden administration has been pursuing negotiations in order to free the hostages and avert a wider war. I pray for the President’s success and am glad that he is in charge of our foreign policy at this woeful moment.
This afternoon, at a military base north of Tel Aviv, the Israel Defense Forces held a grisly matinee screening of 43 minutes of raw footage from Hamas’s October 7 attack. Members of the press were invited, but cameras were not allowed. Hamas had the opposite policy on cameras during the attack, which it documented gleefully with its fighters’ body cams and mobile phones. Some of the clips had been circulating already on social media in truncated or expurgated form, with the footage decorously stopped just before beheadings and moments of death. After having seen them both in raw and trimmed forms, I can endorse the decision to trim those clips. I certainly hope I never see any of the extra footage again.
It was, as IDF Major General Mickey Edelstein told the press afterward, “a very sad movie.” Men, women, and children are shot, blown up, hunted, tortured, burned, and generally murdered in any horrible manner you could predict, and some that you might not. The terrorists surround a Thai man they have shot in the gut, then bicker about what to do next. (About 30,000 Thais live in Israel, many of them farmworkers.) “Give me a knife!” one Hamas terrorist shouts. Instead he finds a garden hoe, and he swings at the man’s throat, taking thwack after thwack.
The audience gasped. I heard someone heave a little at another scene, this one showing a father and his young sons, surprised in their pajamas. A terrorist throws a grenade into their hiding place, and the father is killed. The boys are covered in blood, and one appears to have lost an eye. They go to their kitchen and cry for their mother. One of the boys howls, “Why am I alive?” and “Daddy, Daddy.” One says, “I think we are going to die.” The terrorist who killed their father comes in, and while they weep, he raids their fridge. “Water, water,” he says. The spokesman was unable to say whether the children survived.
The videos show pure, predatory sadism; no effort to spare those who pose no threat; and an eagerness to kill nearly matched by eagerness to disfigure the bodies of the victims. In several clips, the Hamas killers fire shots into the heads of people who are already dead. They count corpses, taking their time, and then shoot them again. Some of the clips I had not previously seen simply show the victims in a state of terror as they wait to be murdered, or covered with bits of their friends and loved ones as they are loaded into trucks and brought to Gaza as hostages. There was no footage of rape, although there was footage of young women huddling in fear and then being executed in a leisurely manner.
Edelstein said that the IDF chose to show the footage out of necessity. It is not every day that snuff films of Jews are shown at an IDF screening hall. (The original site of the screening was a commercial theater, which would have been even worse.) “What we shared with you,” Edelstein said, searching for words, “you should know it.” And he said he struggled to understand how some journalists could present the IDF and Hamas as comparable. This footage would refute that false equivalence.
“We are not looking for kids to kill them,” he said. “We have to share it with you so no one will have an idea that someone is equal to another.”
To me the most disturbing section was not visual at all. Like the clip of the father and his boys hunted in their pajamas, it was upsetting in part because it showed a relationship between parent and child. The clip is just a phone call—placed by a terrorist to his family back in Gaza. He tells his father that he is calling from a Jewish woman’s phone. (The phone recorded the call.) He tells his father that his son is now a “hero” and that “I killed 10 Jews with my own hands.” And he tells his family, about a dozen times, that they should open up WhatsApp on his phone, because he has sent photographs to prove what he has done. “Put on Mom!” he says. “Your son is a hero!”
His parents, I noticed, are not nearly as enthusiastic as he is. I believe that the mom says “praise be to God” at one point, which could be gratitude for her son’s crimes or pure reflex, indicating her loss for words to match her son’s unspeakable acts. They do not question what their son has done; they do not scold him. They tell him to come back to Gaza. They fear for his safety. He says, amid rounds of “Allahu akbar,” that he intends “victory or martyrdom”—which the parents must understand means that he will never come home. From their muted replies I wonder whether they also understand that even if he did come home, he would do so as a disgusting and degraded creature, and that it might be better for him not to.
Graeme Wood is a staff writer at The Atlantic and the author of The Way of the Strangers: Encounters With the Islamic State.

The attack on the people of Israel is pure evil and sadistic. I am hopeful that Biden and Blinken can negotiate a deal that can minimize the loss of life. Yes, Biden is old, but he is also an experienced statesman who has history behind him. He lived through the cold war, our wasteful wars as well as our internal conflicts. He understands geopolitical issues, and he knows what is at stake. He can be trusted to support our allies and look for solutions. We need leaders that understand consequences, and the Biden administration is ready for this challenge.
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AGREE.
Go Biden! 👍👍👍
I Support Biden.
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Why?
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I support Biden too. And for she who asks “why” it’s because the alternative is Trump. Obviously.
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War is hell! It will always be hell.
The aggressors, those who start wars, have no humanity in them once they fire the first shot against their victims.
The defenders, to survive, have to fight fire with fire and lose their humanity, haunted and tormented for the rest of their lives for what they have lost, what they have witnessed, what they had to do to live, to stop the monsters that started it all.
There are no winners, even among the winners.
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There’s already 5,000 reported dead in Gaza from the bombings. All wars result in collateral damage. Biden is trying to contain this war, but, ultimately, what happens next depends on the Israelis.
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There obviously is collateral damage that includes civilians but beware of death toll numbers that come from the Hamas government.
President Biden today: “I have no notion that Palestinians are telling the truth about how many people are killed. I’m sure innocents have been killed. And that’s the price of waging a war. I have no confidence in the number that the Palestinians are using.”
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No it depends on the Palis, who murdered over 1,000 people, put babies in ovens, cut fetuses out of pregnant women, raped and broke bones of young girls while at it, and then wheeled everyone still alive under their rat tunnels, while their “poor Gazan citizens” spit and threw detritus at the fallen. They started it, and I guess Israel is (and should) finish it.
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I will no longer follow you although I
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It is hard to put words together to express how I feel about what is going on in Gaza.
Then it came to me that this is no different than what happened in 1096 when Pope Urban II made the call for the Crusades and the military expeditions to retake the Holy Lands from Moslem control.
The Crusades that lasted from 1096 to 1300 CE were no different than what is happening in Gaza today. Wars based on religion. Pope Urban II and his minions came up with wild rationale for the Crusades. None of it rational.
The atrocities that are going on today in Gaza were the very same as they were during the Crusades. Some of the actors are different but the results are still the same. Needless death and destruction.
We humans, regardless of religion, ethnicity, origin, gender, etc., have learned nothing in the roughly las ten centuries. Absolutely nothing. We still fight, kill, maim each other but we just do it better, faster, bloodier with bigger bombs, better guns, drones, missiles, etc.
We never learn and probably never will.
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The founding fathers knew well about the religious wars that plagued Europe for centuries. That’s why they wanted freedom of religion with no government establishment of religion. Religion was to be a personal decision, without government sponsorship. As Thomas Jefferson summed it: SEPARATION OF CHURCH AND STATE.
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AMEN! Thanks, Diane.
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I agree wholeheartedly!
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Agreed, and yet it’s slipping away, that separation of church and state in the U.S. I’d jump on that if I were guys-Canadian cousin
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Thank you for posting this. This was the most shocking and horrific crime I have ever witnessed, even if only by video and secondhand description. The depravity and sadism. The disgusting reactions on the progressive left (I’m thinking DSA, local BLM chapters, student associations, Marxist “decarceration”/“decolonization” groups, etc) have been almost as shocking. The current climate of antisemitism here and abroad is truly frightening.
Yes, the Mideast conflict is complex. But I learned everything I needed to know about everyone based just on their immediate reactions to the October 7 massacre.
And congrats to Jamaal Bowman for leaving the DSA last year.
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Yet another example. Students at GWU projecting “Glory to Our Martyrs” on the walls of the library.
https://x.com/stopantisemites/status/1716994962703724728?s=46&t=vV_4bJ7GuABaalzetJofQA
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FLERP!,
We seem to have similar views of the situation in general. But you are wrong to politicize this — it’s wrong to demonize an entire national organization based on what a few people say. The leading Democratic Socialists like Bernie Sanders and AOC condemned this. A small handful of students at GWU did something disgusting. Condemn that action but trying to get political mileage out of this is exactly why the Israeli-Palestinian situation got into this mess.
I dislike college frat culture probably as much as you dislike Democratic Socialists. And here is one reason: “Another Sigma Nu chapter at the University of Central Florida recently found itself in hot water after a student videotaped members of the frat, including a man accused of sexual assault, chanting “let’s rape some bitches” at an off-campus party.”
It would be wrong for me to use that specific example to rile up folks to believe that all of Greek Life was rabidly pro-rape.
We don’t have to rile up emotions and hate to smear an entire movement based on the actions of the very worst actors.
I hate the double standard that Israel is so often held to. But there are also times to criticize.
JStreet is my go to source. Sources that use some provocative example to foment hatred against a large group are making this worse.
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“For US right-wing pundits and politicians, inciting against Biden, immigrants and Muslims is far more important than true solidarity with Israelis and support for Israel’s security.”
I’d add “inciting against DSA”, too.
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Usage note: The verb to incite is transitive.
CORRECT: Trump incited the mob.
INCORRECT: Trump incited against democracy.
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I’ve never seen a local chapter of the DSA that was less repugnant to me than the NYC chapter. This is an organization whose platform includes the abolition of capitalism (a certfiably insane position), decarceration with the long-term goal of eliminating all prisons (also insane), and nationalizing industry, not to mention policies that are overtly hostile to Israel, like BDS and resisting the normalization of relations between Israel and its Arab neighbors. Bernie Sanders is not a DSA member as far as I know. Jamaal Bowman had the sense to leave the group last year—good on him. One of the founding members just left the DSA and penned this piece in the Nation about it: https://www.thenation.com/article/activism/quit-dsa-gaza-israel/tnamp/. They are awful, and from what I understand they are financially collapsing, and that collapse can’t come to soon for me.
Just my opinion.
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Bob, you are correct. That quote was from the Israeli newspaper “Haaretz”, so perhaps they were not as familiar with the correct English grammar usage regarding transitive verbs. I have no such excuse, having spoken English all my life. I added the line to include “DSA” to the list from the quote in Haaretz without a single thought as to whether I was making a grammatical error. mea culpa!
Using tragedies and atrocities to demonize whole groups because you don’t like those groups needs to stop if we care about any real lasting peace. I hope the disgraceful and inexcusable grammatical error I made does not detract from that point. I assume you thought it did, so thank you for taking the time to correct it. Perhaps this blog would be better if we all took the time to carefully read each comment and make usage notes whenever there is any kind of grammatical error.
I recommend J Street for their commitment to keeping the conversation productive instead of looking for a way to get some political mileage.
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I had a response here but it appears to have gotten moderated out.
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FLERP, your comment is no longer in moderation.
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NYC public school parent
Absolutely correct My long comment to Flerp! was along those lines. I guess there is a limit to how long a response can be because it simply vaporized. I probably should not have paste an entire article in the comment.
So here is the President of Starbucks Workers United Union. He is the son of a Holocaust survivors and lost Grand Parents and aunts. His union is being attacked because of one unauthorized tweet that gets taken down rapidly.
You probably as I said in my response to Flerp! will never find the piece crowded out by 100s if not thousands of right wing stories about it. In the Right Wing Echo Sphere, stories that get repeated by MSM who fail to do investigative Journalism.
https://inthesetimes.com/article/starbucks-israel-gaza-lynne-fox-palestine
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The national DSA platform including abolishing capitalism, nationalizing industries, emptying prisons with the ultimate goal of abolishing prison, advocating for leaving NATO, advocating against the normalization of relations between Israel and Arab nations, BDS, and a bunch of other crazy destructive ideas. Go to their web site and read their demand for “a new political order through a second constitutional convention to write the founding documents of a new socialist democracy.” Believe them when they tell you who they are.
I’ve seen nothing in any chapter of the DSA that doesn’t disgust me as much as the NY chapter. They’re terrible on every level.
Bernie Sanders has never been a DSA member to my knowledge. Jamal Bowman left the DSA last year, presumably because he couldn’t square its platform and the conduct of its members with his actual constituents. Good on him for leaving. I understand the DSA is in financial tatters today. It can’t collapse soon enough for me.
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I’m skeptical that an Israeli invasion of Gaza will do more good than harm. But Israeli leaders are in much better position than others are to make what is a cost-benefit analysis. What are the likely costs in lives, international goodwill, property destruction, etc. of an invasion? On the other hand, if Israel doesn’t invade, can Hamas regroup and do it again? My gut-level, quite uninformed sense is that Israel should not invade but should make their borders airtight – a porcupine defense – and do what they’ve already vowed to do: track down and capture/kill the 2500+ members of Hamas they believe are connected to the October 7 massacre.
Netanyahu won’t survive politically after this debacle has been investigated. He has the public image of a security hawk, which he mostly was. But he – and many other senior level officials – believed that Hamas was largely pacified despite their bellicose rhetoric. Under his leadership, Israel let its guard down near Gaza, and the intelligence failure was catastrophic. That intelligence failure is also shared with the U.S. intelligence agencies who have human and technical eyes and ears around the globe. Why didn’t they pick up on the Hamas plans? Journalists should ask Biden administration officials this question, but it’s a safe bet that they won’t.
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Jack, I am in complete agreement with you. I hope that Israel doesn’t invade Gaza. The deaths of Israeli soldiers and innocent Gazan civilians will be horrendous. It would seem wiser to track down those involved in planning and carrying out the massacres. Netanyahu stupidly thought that Hamas would be moderated by the responsibilities of governing. He must be held accountable.
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Agreed. Cherry picking is required in such a fragile situation.
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Agreed, Jack.
And speaking of catastrophic intelligence failures, how about the US intelligence services not outing Trump as a Russian asset leading to the astonishing phenomenon of a Russian asset sitting in the Oval Office. Good thing that Trump is so breathtakingly ignorant and incompetent. Still, lord only knows the damage that was done.
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The Republicans just chose as their leader in the Senate a man who supported overthrowing the results of the 2020 election. That’s right. A man who was just fine with seditious conspiracy to overthrow an election and undo the will of the people.
The Republican Party is anti-democratic. It’s a party of goons.
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The national Republican Party is a disgrace, akin to a suicide cult. The Hamas of the American two-party system. All the disgust I have for groups like the DSA, I also have for the Republican Party. But unlike the DSA, the Republican Party isn’t a fringe faction.
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Although I immediately regret this comment, which uses Hamas to make a snide analogy that only serves to downplay the true magnitude of that group’s evil.
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For days I have been speechless, reading and hearing about the carnage i the Middle East, the continuing war in Ukraine, and the possibility of a widening conflict in Asia. I expect the anxious days before the Guns of August boomed in 1914 filled them with the same dread I feel.
How can good come of this? Extremists in both Israel and Palestine will create strife rather than attempt to settle it. Putin will continue to pound Ukraine. China always looks to Taiwan. The hope we had that the end of the Cold War might usher in a more peaceful era is certainly not proving to be a real hope.
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