Michael Hiltzik, columnist for the Los Angeles Times, excoriates Kristen Welner, the new face of “Meet the Press” for her inability to pose tough questions to Trump or to counter his repeated lies. But, in fairness, Trump knows how to use television to his own advantage far better than the professional journalists who interview him. The bottom line is that no broadcast journalist has figured out how to counter a firehouse of lies.
He writes:
When Chuck Todd announced in June that he would be retiring as host of “Meet the Press,” not a few people who take politics seriously breathed a sigh of relief: No more of Todd’s insight-free, planed-down, both-sides-do-it horse race approach to news.
The NBC News publicity machine immediately built up Todd’s successor, Kristen Welker, as a tough, whip-smart journalist, “dogged” and a master of “sharp questioning of lawmakers.”
That whole PR edifice came crashing down Sunday, when Welker got steamrollered by Donald Trump on national television.
Despite ample evidence that dealing with Trump on his own level — through four years of the Trump presidency and as recently as May, when Trump chewed CNN anchor Kaitlan Collins to pieces at a misbegotten town hall — was a no-win situation, NBC News went ahead and subjected its hopelessly unprepared journalist to ritual humiliation. It was a milepost in the deterioration of network news’ ability and inclination to hold politicians to account.
What Trump received was a nearly hour-long, essentially unmoderated publicity platform, gratis, an opportunity to once again show that he is a feral exploiter of television’s tendency to take everyone at their own level of self-esteem.
Of Welker the sharp questioner of lawmakers, nothing remains. Here’s a fair sampling of her presence during the interview (drawn from the full official transcript of the encounter, of which only a portion was shown during the broadcast):
“But Mr. President—”
“Let’s stay on track, though, Mr. President.”
“Mr. President, we have so many topics to cover.”
“You had —”
“You — Mr. President —”
“But, let me, let me, but Mr. President —”
“Mr. President, let me just ask this question, please —”
Etc, etc….
The transcript fails to illustrate how often Welker, bollixed by Trump, ended up stepping on her own questions. Trump delivered the coup de grace late in the program, when he complained to Welker, “You keep interrupting me.”
Welker allowed Trump to emit lie after lie in what I’ve described as his “Gish gallop,” a technique named for a notorious creationist who would conduct debates with experts in evolution by “spewing forth torrents of errorthat the evolutionist hasn’t a prayer of refuting in the format of a debate.”
Welker tried, here and there, to counter Trump’s lies, but on the whole she failed miserably; they just keep coming at too great a pace. But she displayed abject ignorance about too many of the issues she herself raised. NBC News posted a “fact check” online after the broadcast, but at a mere 1,800 words it couldn’t possibly correct the record adequately.
Let’s take a look at some of Trump’s most egregious lies.
On abortion, Trump claimed that Democrats advocate allowing abortions “after five months, six months, seven months, eight months, nine months, and even after birth.”
Not only is after-birth abortion a contradiction in terms, but late-term abortions aren’t done out of a casual decision not to proceed with birth, but because the fetus is not viable or suffers from extreme deformities, or the pregnancy is a threat to the woman’s health.
Welker’s response to this was a wan, “Only 1% of late-term abortions happen.”
When Welker asked about the consequences of anti-abortion laws in red states — “How is it acceptable in America that women’s lives are at risk, doctors are being forced to turn away patients in need, or risk breaking the law?” — Trump simply failed to give an answer, and Welker failed to insist on one.
Trump claimed that abortion is “a 50/50 issue,” meaning that the U.S. public is evenly split. That’s not true.
According to Gallup, 67% of Americans believe that abortion should be legal in the first three months of pregnancy — the first 90 days. The most stringent anti-abortion laws enacted in red states don’t allow abortion at all or restrict it to the first six weeks, a period in which many women don’t even know they’re pregnant.
Importantly, Gallup finds that 58% consistently oppose the Supreme Court’s 2022 ruling overturning Roe vs. Wade, which had guaranteed abortion rights nationwide. Trump has long bragged about having installed the court majority that overturned the 1973 ruling.
Trump defended his efforts to overturn the 2020 election, including his notorious call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger urging him to find enough votes to flip the Georgia results from Joe Biden to himself. He said Raffensperger “again last week said I didn’t do anything wrong… Raffensperger said ‘it was a negotiation.’ ”
This is a lie. Raffensperger has not said Trump did not do anything wrong. At a federal court hearing last month on a motion by former Trump chief of staff Mark Meadows to move the trial over his indictment over conspiring to overturn the 2020 election, Raffensperger was asked point-blank by the judge whether the call was a “negotiation.” He replied that it was not.
Trump has also been indicted in that case, brought by Fulton County Dist. Atty. Fani Willis.
Turning to economic affairs, Trump claimed that his 2017 tax cuts, which went mostly to corporations and wealthy people, “created tremendous jobs…. More importantly, we had more revenue with lower taxes than we did with higher taxes.” These assertions are false or highly misleading.
Job growth under Trump fell short of the mark set by former President Obama. In the first three years of Trump’s administration (leaving out 2020, when the pandemic provoked huge job losses), 6.36 million jobs were created, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics; in the last three years of the Obama administration, 8 million jobs were created.
In the two years following the tax cuts, job growth was meager — 2.3 million new jobs in 2019, and 2 million in 2019. Those were worse than the annual figures for 2013-16. Under Biden, incidentally, nearly 14 million jobs have been created, in part thanks to the post-pandemic recovery.
Higher revenues after enactment of the Tax Cut and Jobs Act? No, not really.
Corporate income tax receipts fell to $224.9 billion in 2018 from $230.34 billion the year before and fell again to $210.45 billion in 2019. Personal income tax receipts held their own in 2018, coming in at $1.615 trillion, up modestly from $1.613 trillion in 2017, then rose to $1.7 trillion in 2020.
But those figures fell significantly below what had been projected by the Congressional Budget Office in 2017 — a shortfall of $275 billion, or 7.6% of pre-tax cut projected revenues, the Brookings Institution calculated.
Put it all together, and Brookings found that despite conservatives’ promises, “The TCJA did not pay for itself, nor is it likely to do so in the future.”
Welker, of course, was utterly ill-equipped to push back on Trump’s job and revenue claims. He simply blamed the pandemic, though the consequences of the tax cuts were felt long before then.
What’s most shocking is that almost none of Trump’s lies was new — he’s been spouting most of them nonstop. So how could Welker be so unprepared to address them head-on?
Given that the quality of Welker’s interrogation scraped the bottom of the barrel clean, it’s hard to pinpoint the lowest of low notes.
My vote for the single stupidest question she put to Trump is this one, which wasn’t heard during Sunday’s broadcast but appears in the full transcript: “Is there any scenario by which you would seek a third term in office?”
Leaving aside that Trump has served only a single term, lost his bid for a second term, and is not yet the official GOP candidate for the 2024 campaign, there’s this little thing out there known as the 22nd Amendment to the U.S. Constitution.
That amendment states forthrightly, in black and white, “No person shall be elected to the office of the President more than twice.”
Perhaps Welker hasn’t had a chance to learn about it yet, it’s been around only since 1951.
Trump was perhaps too canny to answer her question; he turned it into an attack on Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, who is challenging him for the nomination.
But one can only ask: What the hell was Welker thinking? Was this her way of asking Trump if he would stage an anti-constitutional coup d’etat? If so, why not ask that outright?
And where the hell was the NBC News staff, who surely were in the room at Trump’s New Jersey golf club where the interview took place? Did no one say, “Er, Kristen….”
So that was that. At the end of the interview Welker docilely asked Trump, “If you have time, I think we want to get one little shot of us walking together.” Because, of course, what’s important to NBC News and its fellow TV enterprises is the optics.

Amen! Too many are rushing to defend her. The damage she’s inflicted on our country is immense.
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Todd’s damage was inflicted over years via the perpetual panelists from AEI.
Todd’s audience should switch to Jonathan Karl (ABC).
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The interview wasn’t even broadcast live. NBC had almost three days to document the lies and correct them in a real-time crawl. Journalism 001.
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thank you
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We have to keep reminding ourselves that all of our broadcast media, both left & right, are corporate controlled, which means it’s all about ratings & advertising revenue. Remembering that, we can then understand why they continue to give lying, delusional, traitor Trump air time. People love to watch a car wreck despite knowing it may be ugly & messy!
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NBC made lots of $$ and the public got a circu$.
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bingo
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The assignment: See that geyser of shit? Go stand in it for half an hour.
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I don’t envy anyone trying to interview this bloviating cretin.
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When Trump gets a tough interviewer who doesn’t let him get away with his BS propaganda antics to repeat his BIG LIES, the traitor often walks out.
https://www.newsweek.com/every-interview-donald-trump-walked-out-full-list-piers-morgan-1699661
Soon after walking out or while he’s walking out, Traitor Trump often attacks those reporters publicly through his favorite extreme right propaganda sites (FAKE FOX News), followed by threats from the traitors MAGA supporters.
The media cannot win with Trump. He either gets his way or he walks out and then attacks the media person he walked out on who then starts to get death threats that include threat on their family.
What’s his the liar-in-chief’s favorite attack words: Fake News — what else?
https://cpj.org/reports/2020/04/trump-media-attacks-credibility-leaks/
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Todd wasn’t “both sides” in any honest appraisal. His panel almost always had a reserved seat for the oligarchs’ AEI and, sometimes two seats allocated. On his Meet the Press program, AEI’s mouthpieces should have carried a “sponsor” label.
Jonathan Karl over at ABC is both knowledgeable and a forceful interviewer in exposing lies.
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Biden could not last 2 minutes. It is getting sick and sad to see Diane post aboput Trump when Biden is the headline on everything, giving more to ukraine. Trump destroyed her and it was a solid interview. Biden cannot do anything right but you all deflect to trump.
LLoyd haha fake fox news, like cnn, msdnc, and the rest havent gone to shit with ratings and news anchors fired.
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Trump is an idiot, a rapist, a liar, and a con man.
Biden is a great president!
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Why do you keep using different names? Three posts under different names but all from the same person.
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East coast media fails democracy too often. NYT Pitchbot found a way to make us laugh about it.
The NYT Pitchbot tweet about Bob Menendez a few hours ago was very funny. Below is a characteristic NYT headline tweaked and tweeted by Pitchbot, “Times have been tough in this Ohio town ever since the woke mob shut down the Ivermectin factory.”
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