Club Q is a gay bar that is known in Colorado Springs for the vivacious entertainment it provides, most notably drag shows where men dress up as women and perform. Lots of people enjoy the fun of drag shows, and they are not necessarily gay. As you no doubt have read, a man barged into Club Q, armed with an assault rifle and other guns. He began blazing away. Five people were killed, and another 20 were wounded and hospitalized.
The toll would have been far higher were it not for the instantaneous reaction of Rich Fierro, a combat veteran who was attending the drag show with his wife, daughter, and friends. When he heard the gunfire, he went into combat mode, pulled down the killer, and pummeled him with his own gun.
In an interview at his house, where his wife and daughter were still recovering from injuries, Mr. Fierro, 45, who left the Army in 2013 as a major, according to military records, described charging through the chaos at the club, tackling the gunman and beating him bloody with the gunman’s own gun.
Richard M. Fierro said he was at a table in Club Q with his wife, daughter and friends on Saturday, watching a drag show, when the sudden flash of gunfire ripped across the nightclub. His instincts from four combat deployments as an Army officer in Iraq and Afghanistan instantly kicked in. Fight back, he told himself.
“I don’t know exactly what I did, I just went into combat mode,” Mr. Fierro said, shaking his head. “I just know I have to kill this guy before he kills us.”
Without Fierro’s immediate intervention, there would certainly have been more fatalities. In 2016, a shooter entered the Pulse nightclub in Orlando and murdered 49 people.
Of the five who died, three were gay or transgender, and two were straight. Club Q was a fun place until the killer arrived.
When the next mass shooting occurs, there may not be a combat veteran available to tackle the shooter. It may happen in a classroom, an auditorium, a bar, anywhere.
Thanks to the National Rifle Association, the Republican party that takes orders from the NRA, and the Supreme Court, which recently struck down state laws that were intended to limit access to high-powered guns or concealed guns, we are all targets. Nowhere is safe.
But let’s give discredit where discredit is due. The Republican Party has skillfully turned anything related to LGBT+ into a huge issue. “They” are coming for your children. Do not say what they are. Do not acknowledge their existence. Pretend they don’t exist. Deny medical care to transgender people and threaten to punish parents who seek it and physicians who offer it.
Crass politicians like Ron DeSantis and Greg Abbott speak of gays, lesbians and transgender people as the enemy of our righteous social order. DeSantis passed a law forbidding the acknowledgment of such people in K-12, even if they happen to be gay. Books about gay love and gay life are banned. Anything related to gay life is stigmatized as evil. For years, we have heard a steady public repetition of slurs, slanders, and obscenities directed at trans people, as though they were responsible for everything that has gone wrong in our national life.
The seeds of hatred and murder were planted by politicians who treated gays as “less than.” Twisted minds hear the incitement and think they will be celebrated if they kill these enemies of the people.
DeSantis, Abbot and other politicians who have demonized people who are transgender and who are LGBT have blood on their hands.
Words have consequences.

You tell the story of Richard Fierro without mentioning that the cops (who arrived only after he had subdued the shooter) detained him and left him handcuffed in a car covered in blood for over an hour with no idea what had happened to his wife and daughter. Interesting.
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I think you missed the point of the post. It is about the consequenences of demonizing others.
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Interesting when that applies and when it doesn’t.
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Interesting how you repeatedly miss the point.
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dienne77, when the police arrived, it was crazy and confusing inside that club. They didn’t know Fierro stopped the killer. It takes time to gather the facts from witnesses and it was the smart thing to do. The police would have not known if there was just one shooter or more.
I’m sure Fierro, a combat vet would understand this. I do. I’m a combat vet. And the chaos and confusion doesn’t stop when the threat is neutralized. In fact, when the shooting stops, you do not know if it is going to start up again.
Did you serve in the military?
Have you been in combat?
Have you been a police officer?
Have you ever been inside a club, shopping center, school, church, music festival during and after a shooting incident?
Never, never, never, make assumptions in a situation like that or it could cost you your life.
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Even for you, Dienne, this is some really looney nitpicking.
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What is your point, Dienne? Because even for you, this is some really looney nitpicking.
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It’s funny how none of you dispute anything I actually said, you just think it’s somehow irrelevant to the story that the man you are (rightly) lauding as a hero was left handcuffed and blood-soaked in a cop car for over an hour not knowing about the condition of his wife and daughter? “Don’t bother me with ugly truths about my country, I just want to see the good stuff.”
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Did you read Lloyd’s response? He’s a combat veteran. Are you?
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Here is Lloyd’s sensible response to your complaint about the police holding Rich F. In a police car for an hour, handcuffed:
dienne77, when the police arrived, it was crazy and confusing inside that club. They didn’t know Fierro stopped the killer. It takes time to gather the facts from witnesses and it was the smart thing to do. The police would have not known if there was just one shooter or more.
I’m sure Fierro, a combat vet would understand this. I do. I’m a combat vet. And the chaos and confusion doesn’t stop when the threat is neutralized. In fact, when the shooting stops, you do not know if it is going to start up again.
Did you serve in the military?
Have you been in combat?
Have you been a police officer?
Have you ever been inside a club, shopping center, school, church, music festival during and after a shooting incident?
Never, never, never, make assumptions in a situation like that or it could cost you your life.
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I see no need to comment on what you actually said, Dienne, because it is too deeply, irretrievably stupid. What is your point? Is it self-righteousness? Your constant need to be right? The kind of pointless contrarianism that someone like the late Christopher Hitchens adored? Why does your post require or merit comment other than ridicule and condemnation? At this point, that is just about all I have left for you.
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Full clip:
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Harper’s Weekly Review begins with a perfectly succinct sentence:
“In the same city where Focus on the Family is headquartered, a gunman killed five people and injured at least 25 others at a gay nightclub before being subdued by unarmed bar patrons.”
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Yup. Focus on the Family is a hate group. And a bunch of superstitious morons.
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Focus on the Family is funded by DeVos family.
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If you were tasked with finding a long term solution for a community’s failure to thrive (the problem is economic in origin) but, societal pressure demands that no explanation about origin take place, what would your odds of success be?
As long as the foundation for anti-abortion and anti-LGBTQ views is hidden from view (e.g. SCOTUS’ avoidance of religion in its words about the overturn of Roe), what expectation of change is reasonable?
I wish I had a dollar for every article about the two issues that manages to dodge the origins of the prejudice.
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I just read on Twitter that on the day after the shooting at Club Q, Tucker Carlson delivered a rant against gays. Another one with blood on his hands.
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!!!!
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Richard Fierro is a Northrop Grumman Defense Contractor.
Deployed 3 times to Iraq. Once to Afghanistan. Richard Grabbed the shooter & his handgun. Pinned him. Got others to kick and hit the gunman where there was no body armor plate. A Drag Queen used her high heels as a weapon./WAPO
Anderson Aldrich. Club Q Mass Shooting Suspect.
He is the Grandson of outgoing CA GOPee State Assembly Randy Voepel.
Voepel is a Tea Party Stop The Steal MAGA Minion.
The gunman’s entire upbringing brings Rodgers & Hammerstein’s South Pacific to mind.
“You’ve got to be taught before it’s too late.
Before you are 6 or 7 or 8.
To hate all the people your relatives hate.
You’ve got to be Carefully Taught!”
https://heavy.com/news/anderson-lee-aldrich/
The power of Public Schools continues as the antidote to such hate-filled programming.
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How long is the step from the Tea Party’s view that people should die like feral dogs in the gutter… to murder….. we were shown by Jan. 6 and the attack on Paul Pelosi.
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Fierro and his wife are owners of a craft brewery in Colorado. She is Mexican. He is brave. The suspect is a POS.
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YES!
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Well said, Kathy!
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Here is what Doug Lamborn, the conservative US Congressional representative from Colorado Springs, had to say about the shooting: “I am saddened to hear of the senseless loss of life in the shooting last night. Law enforcement and first responders are to be commended for their rapid response. All people should pray for the victims and their families.” That was the entirety of his statement. Not a single word about hatred and violence against LGBTQ people. Not even a simple,”Hate has no place in Colorado or elsewhere.” All he could manage was to commend first responders. Pathetic. Lauren Boebert may be loonier than Lamborn but Lamborn and other of his ilk are just as bad, or worse. They pretend that incidents like this are the result of single, isolated, deranged individuals—with no acknowledgement that their spewing of hate is an any way connected to the violence.
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Good points and well said!
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Well said, Mr. Gartzman!
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Exactly right. This is a part of the process I describe below
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Lamborn, intentionally, doesn’t “connect” the religious right to the origin of the spewed hate (not unlike many others, both liberals and conservatives).
He is part of the pro-life caucus. He’s GOP, white, male and north of 55 years old. I’d bet money that his anti-abortion stance is about controlling women with forced pregnancies. IMO, his comments about the murders reflect consistency with the power structure he wants which is straight, white, male dominance or, his comment was drafted to appeal to his base.
On Facebook, he’s pictured with a smiling Catholic priest outside of his Congressional office. In posts found on the internet, he effusively praises the bishop of the Colorado Springs diocese. He introduced a “Christmas Resolution,” which you can read about on-line. Lamborn is “unspecified protestant.”
Lamborn was assuring his base by the deliberate omissions. What is the intent of liberals in omitting rightwing religion from the discussion?
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Amazing story.
He’ll be getting his character attacked any minute now if not already.
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Amazing story.
He’ll be getting his character attacked any minute now if not already.
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Very possible, alas
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Who will attack his character, FLERP? The people who wish more LGBT had died?
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Richard Fierro is an incredible hero, there is not doubt that he saved many lives by his selfless actions. In a situation like that, total chaos and confusion, and not knowing if there might be a 2nd shooter, it took a war veteran to stop the bloodletting.
Horror upon horror, “just” another massacre in this gun-soaked country. Nothing new for the USA. The new part is that a brave individual stopped the massacre in its tracks, that is rare.
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There were also heroes at the mass shooting on January 8, 2011, when U.S. Representative Gabby Giffords and 18 others were shot during a constituent meeting held in a supermarket parking lot. Six people were killed and 15 were injured.
From wikipedia:
When the shooter/assassin stopped to reload, but dropped the loaded magazine from his pocket to the sidewalk, from where bystander Patricia Maisch grabbed it. Another bystander (Roger Salzgeber) clubbed the back of the assailant’s head with a folding chair, injuring his elbow in the process, representing the 14th injury. Loughner was tackled to the ground by Bill Badger, a 74-year-old retired United States Army Colonel who had also been shot himself. Loughner was further subdued by Maisch and bystanders Roger Salzgeber and Joseph Zamudio. Zamudio, a concealed weapon (CCW) permit holder, had a weapon on his person, but arrived after the shooting had stopped and did not draw his firearm.
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Wonderful post. One correction: The DeSantis Don’t Say Gay bill applies to Grades K-3 and to corporations. However, it’s general hatefulness casts a repressive, chilling pall on every grade level and every public interaction. It’s basically hate speech enacted into law. And yes, words like those have consequences.
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The killer was proving he’s not woke.
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THE WORM’S WAKING, by Rumi
This is how a human being can change:
there’s a worm addicted to eating
grape leaves.
Suddenly he wakes up–
call it grace, whatever–something
wakes him, and he’s no longer
a worm.
He’s the entire vineyard,
and the orchard too, the fruit, the trunks,
a growing wisdom and joy
that doesn’t need
to devour.
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Apparently the killer identifies as non-binary and uses they/them pronouns.
https://www.axios.com/2022/11/23/colorado-club-shooting-suspect-non-binary-attorneys-say
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cx: its, not it’s
And thank you, Diane, for repeatedly defending and embracing the term “woke.”
You and Rumi.
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“The seeds of hatred and murder were planted by politicians who treated gays as “less than.” “
A page right out of the age of white supremacy. First demonize those who are the targets. Then arouse people in another social class to harm them. Benefit greatly from the distrust you have engendered while offering disappointment for the acts of the people you use for votes and from whose fears you derive your support.
Divide and rule
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exactly
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The right wing Colson Center posted about the cause of the Colo. shootings at Breakpoint, “What we’re missing about mass shootings,” by John Stonestreet.
Stonestreet chastises media for describing Colo. Springs as “brimming with evangelical ministries.” (And, in predicable fashion, media refuses to mention the right wing Catholic church.)
The shooter’s grandfather is reportedly GOP Rep. Lamborn of the pro-life caucus and his base seems decidedly right wing religious.
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Suspected shooter
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Probably should hold off speculating about the shooter’s motives until we know more. Things that seem common sense at first can turn out to be more complicated (or less complicated), as we saw with the shooting at the Pulse. Although here, there are hate charges filed, so one would presume there’s some factual predicate behind those.
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I don’t really care whether he is charged with a hate crime.
It’s quite enough that he should be charged with five murders and multiple charges of attempt to murder. His motive is irrelevant, at least to me.
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The motive is relevant if we are to believe that the crime was motivated by anti-LGBTQ hatred and/or a product of anti-LGBTQ rhetoric.
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FLERP, sometimes it’s easy to ascertain motive. As when the killer leaves a trail of tweets or FB posts expressing hatred for some group. Or maybe the killer screamed insults.
But very often the motive is hard to discern. How do you know what someone was thinking?
I frankly don’t care what the killer’s motive was. I want to see him face justice for killing 5 people and inflicting serious injuries on others.
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