This is good news. In multiple ways, the US News & World Report rankings of schools, colleges, and graduate schools are misleading. Harvard Law School and Yale Law School certainly don’t need to have the blessing of US News. I’m hoping that other schools and universities refuse to be ranked by an invalid and useless measure.
CNN reports:
Yale and Harvard law schools, two of the premier law schools in the country, announced they are parting ways with U.S. News & World Report’s rankings of best law schools. The schools are bowing out after criticizing the publication’s methodology, arguing that the list actively perpetuates disparities in law schools. Given the elite status of Yale and Harvard, the move is significant and could signal a greater shift away from college rankings. For years, policymakers and those working in higher education have dismissed the rankings, though they are still referenced by potential students and their families. The decisions have been met with praise, but some questioned whether the move, if followed by other schools, would make it more difficult for the average person to choose to which colleges to apply.
Colleges and universities have been critical of the U.S. News ranking system for decades, saying that it was unreliable and skewed educational priorities, but they had rarely taken action to thwart it, and every year almost always submitted their data for judgment on their various undergraduate and graduate programs.
Now both Yale and Harvard law schools have announced that they will no longer cooperate. In two separate letters posted on their websites, the law school deans excoriated U.S. News for using a methodology that they said devalued the efforts of schools like their own to recruit poor and working-class students, provide financial aid based on need and encourage students to go into low-paid public service law after graduation.

And, of course, Yale Law has given us such geniuses as Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito, while Harvard Law served up George W. Bush.
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But good for them for dropping out of the stupid U.S. News rankings. Now, perhaps these institutions full of thinkers can start thinking about the stupidity of other ranking systems, like school grading, VAM, the SAT, and the invalid state tests based on the puerile Gates/Coleman bullet list.
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Dumbya actually went to Harvard Business School, but Harvard Law did give us the Republican hacks Ron DeSatanist, Ted Cruz, John Roberts and Mitt Romney , unfortunately.
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they had rarely taken action to thwart it, and every year almost always submitted their data for judgment on their various undergraduate and graduate programs.”
That’s because it was just talk, as we hear so often from places like Harvard and Yale, which have played a key role in creating and perpetuating the current FUBAR system.
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Yale also gave us Brett “I like Beer and partying” K.
And Yale has served up Dumbya and other Skull and Boneheads.
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Anyone who “donates” enough can get their kids into either Harvard or Yale.
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Sheesh, no kidding, Shep! I honestly want to know (and this is a serious question), over the course of when as well as how did our reverence for these institutions and the esteem in which we instill its prodigies all invert and transmogrify into clownish, funhouse mirror, one-eyeballed, saggy-butted clowns?…..(at least that’s the impression that has marinaded for the last couple of decades into a full -blown attribute now). Growing up as an Xer (cohort 2; ’70-’80), the names of those institutions (Yale, Harvard, Princeton; Brown, Dartmouth, Rutgers, et al) equated with excelled smarts, intelligence, acumen as well as a sense of sound character and grounded know-how.
I have a bunch of answers where and how but I just need to hear it from someone else to check to see if I’m simply nuts (of which I will be shortly as I’m about to snowblow 4 feet of snow out of my driveway in this inner ring Buffalo suburb).
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Colleges and school systems pay big $$$$ to have that data aggregated (cherry picked) for rankings and ratings. All that money wasted on the testing industry and marketing departments to sell college appeal or real estate just makes me nauseous. Try to tell this to parents in affluent areas and they will swear you wear a tin foil hat.
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Collecting the data for US News and World Report does not impose any costs on my university. We do have staff whose full time job is to collect IPEDS data for the Federal Government however.
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I’m aware of a college within a university that made the magazine’s list in a subcategory. An employee of the college boasted about her efforts that led to the school’s position on the list. College employees were under the impression that the employee received a promotion for her success. She then found another position. The college never appeared before or since in the listing. I doubt the employee was doing the promotional work after hours with no pay.
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Go figure, the “Master’s Tools”
continue their magic of transforming
a mirror into a see-through pane
of glass while sidestepping
questions by changing the
subject…
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https://www.msn.com/en-us/video/webcontent/elmo-claps-back-at-ted-cruz-the-only-way-he-knows-how/vi-iAjg2zkMRR6YvQ?vid=nFBRqqOc0pk&provider=yt&ocid=msedgntp
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You may want to read these comments about Yale and Harvard being party schools.
“Yale is definitely a party school. There are countless organizations around campus, each with a ton of money at its disposal. Imagine a Yalie’s creativity mixed with a large budget. This results in a very fun Saturday night.”
:During this week off, I realized that I go to Harvard, the greatest party school in the history of the world. Or so I thought. I checked outside sources to confirm that Harvard has the best social scene in higher education, confidently searching on Google for the Princeton Review’s rankings of the best party schools.”
Then check this list from the same site. How many of those top paroty universities are in RED States?
Check Out the 10 Best Party Schools in the US
University of Dayton (Dayton, OH) …
University of Georgia (Athens, GA) …
Southern Methodist University (Dallas, TX) …
West Virginia University (Morgantown, WV) …
University of Mississippi (University, MS) …
Tulane University (New Orleans, LA) …
Arizona State University (Tempe, AZ)
https://www.interviewarea.com/frequently-asked-questions/which-ivy-league-is-the-biggest-party-school
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Lots of the liberal justices went to Ivy League schools: RBG, Breyer, Ketanji Brown Jackson, Sotomayor, Kagan, etc. Most of the latter went to Harvard Law School at some point except for Sotomayor (Yale). I don’t think it’s about the schools, it’s about the individual.
Ted Cruz is a supine sleaze bag without morals. Brett Kavanaugh, (I love BEER, burp) went to Yale Law School and fit right in with the party scene and sexual assault.
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It’s time for law clerks at SCOTUS to represent the majority. The majority of college graduates go to public universities. Elitism in government appointments works against democracy. Legacy admission rates that are high at private schools discourage the type of representation that benefits the United States.
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Linda
Yale essentially admits the very point you make , saying the US News rankings “disincentivize programs that support public interest careers, champion need-based aid, and welcome working-class students into the profession”.
But Yale regularly ranks right near (and often at) the top, so in saying that, they are effectively admitting that they are guilty of the very thing they criticize.
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Yale and Harvard actually don’t need the rankings.
They will still get lots of applicants regardless of whether they take part in the US News program.
So its actually very easy to take the stance they are taking. It involves no sacrifice at all.
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Words mean nothing.
The proof is in their actions.
Let’s wait and see what Yale and Harvard do to put an end to legacy admissions and admissions based on whose family donated money and start incentivizing “programs that support public interest careers, champion need-based aid, and welcome working-class students into the profession”.
As long as they keep the legacy admissions, their words won’t mean a damn.
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Agree Poet.
The rich have duped people into believing that private schools produce quality graduates. Their graduates have no edge in academic preparation and probably lesser quality relative to ethics. The values that make for a successful democracy and world are less likely to be in the toolboxes of the private school graduates.
Assuming that Biden continues to gain important legislation for the nation, citizens should be reminded that he is a public university graduate and Trump was not (nor were school privatizers, Clinton and Obama).
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DeSantispeak
War is peace
Strong is weak
Woke’s asleep
Double speak
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A judge just threw out DeSantis “Stop woke” law claiming it is Orwellian doublespeak, which it is.
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DeSantis has a Harvard law degree.
A veritable legal genius that one.
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All readers of the blog who are represented by Democrats in the US House could take action in support of public education by writing to their representatives, stating their opposition to the hedge fund candidate, Hakeem Jeffries, as the replacement for Nancy Pelosi. Katherine Clark is a good alternative for Speaker of the House. She supports public schools.
All union members should encourage the leadership to communicate their dissatisfaction with Jeffries as future Speaker of the House.
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Resisting rankings and voucher pushback (next blog)!
Are we in an alternate universe? Back to the Future? A roll back to pre-NCLB, VAM, XYZ high-stakes measures?
Many suburban high schools opposed rankings two decades ago and stopped submitting qualitative, subjective “data” to the media – who then had to rely on public state data – which reinforced the correlation between socio-economic status and standardized achievement and AP enrollment, etc. And reinforced selective high schools
And before vouchers was the silver (tax credit incentivized) bullet answer, support for “failing” schools came with services and programs instead of “reconstituting” and labeling and vouchering kids out. Accountability meant actual school visitation and “critical friend” support instead of counting things.
What’s next? Outspoken trust and respect for teachers and school staff?
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Is the amount of respect that teachers, in general, “deserve”
influenced by their willingness to set examples as active participants in the political process? Their opposition to Hakeem Jeffries could torpedo his candidacy for Speaker of the US House, thereby thwarting the plans of the hedge funds and tech moguls to take the communities’ assets intended for public schools.
What are the AFT and NEA doing about Jeffries’ possible election?
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I heard a radio ad yesterday for one of those online universities bragging that it was high up in the US News rankings. If that’s not evidence of the rankings being misleading to the point of fraud, I don’t know what is.
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Does US News give a ranking for “Most Fraudulent Universities”?
How about “Most Epstein Dollars Accepted”? (Harvard #1, MIT #2)
“Most Epstein Girls Abused”? (that one’s a tossup between the above)
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UC Berkeley Law School withdrew from the U.S. News rankings.
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Was UC Berkeley accepting Epstein dollars and/,or abusing Epstein Girls as well?
If so, I apologize for leaving them out of the SomeDAM Rankings
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Which, not incidentally, are based on SomeDAM statistics and therefore completely Objectivist. Even more Objectivist than the Queen of Objectivism, Ayn Rand.
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Yale, Stanford, Harvard, Columbia, UC Berkeley, UCLA, Georgetown, Michigan, Duke and Northwestern have dropped the rankings. More than half of the top twenty.
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I continue to think that the best school for any individual is a matter of fit. People do not come out like yeast rolls. Each student needs to be in an environment where learning takes place in the best possible place for that student. Hence rankings are the problem.
We will not escape rankings. Twain satirized the American penchant for competing at everything, but it is an extension of the European zeitgeist that produced a Mozart who swore mighty oaths that he would prove that catholic music would best those protestants. Maybe it is a part of all humanity to compare things. So it is heartening to see that the thought leadership in our country, the places many of our leaders in journalism and academics arise, are taking a step back from this silly excess. Still, a caution: the pendulum swings. Soon some other comparison du jour will arise. Like children, we will be unable to keep from thinking that Julie has a better voice than I do or that Joe is stronger.
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Our country is ALL about ranking.
Ameritocracy
Greatest this
Best at that
US gist:
“My wallet’s fat”
Number 1
Exceptional
Ain’t it fun
To shoot the bull?
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Harvard and Yale are just the logical outcome of such a system.
It’s (Adam) Smithian “Survival of the richest”, which is firmly indoctrinated the claim that rich means meritorious and that what is best for the individual is best for everyone else.
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Your comment at 7:41 is incisive.
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It’s worth remembering that US News, and other outlets (Boston Magazine in MA) also rank our secondary schools. The rankings are used by realtors to sell homes. They also fuel the “failing schools” narrative.
Good riddance to bad trash.
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US News is a right wing rag.
That they became so influential in education is a major coup.
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