This is heartbreaking news. According to the Houston Chronicle, Joe Garcia, the husband of Irma Garcia, died of a heart attack. She was one of the two teachers murdered at Robb Elementary School. The Garcias were parents of four children.
The husband of one of the two teachers killed in the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School has passed away “due to grief,” according to a nephew of the woman.
Joe Garcia of Uvalde reportedly suffered the heart attack, John Martinez tweeted at noon on Thursday. He was the husband of fourth-grade teacher Irma Garcia. They were married for 24 years.
In addition:
Update 12:22 p.m. The Georgia-based manufacturer of the assault rifle model used in Tuesday’s mass shooting at Robb Elementary has pulled out of the NRA convention in Houston this weekend, according to a report from the Daily Beast.
Daniel Defense — who designed the DDM4 V7 rifle — was originally slated to host a booth at the George R. Brown Convention Center but now the booth they were assigned to will be occupied by the NRA itself.
The Houston Chronicle previously reported that the Uvalde gunman, Salvador Ramos, purchased two weapons and hundreds of rounds of ammunition in the days immediately after his 18th birthday, which was on May 16. One weapon was the Daniel Defense rifle; the other was a Smith & Wesson MP 15, which retails for about $1,300.
Update 11:39 a.m. Larry Gatlin and Don McLean have both pulled out of their respective performances at the NRA’s annual convention held in Houston, according to The Chronicle’s Joey Guerra.
Gatlin released a statement on the heels of Thursday morning’s news that McLean would not be participating in Saturday’s Grand Ole Night Of Freedom Concert at the George R. Brown Convention Center.
“I pray that the NRA will rethink some of its outdated and ill-thought-out positions regarding firearms in America,” he said, adding he could not “in good conscience” perform and that he is in support of background checks.
The performance lineup still includes Lee Greenwood, Restless Heart’s Larry Stewart, T. Graham Brown, “NRA Life member” Jacob Bryant and Danielle Peck.
Update 11:15 a.m. As negotiations on possible gun reform got underway in the U.S. Senate on Thursday, Majority Leader Chuck Schumer blasted Gov. Greg Abbott as an “absolute fraud,” according to a report from The Chronicle’s Washington correspondent Benjamin Wermund.
Schumer accused Abbott of offering nothing but “empty platitudes about healing and hope” during a press conference in Uvalde on Wednesday.
“This is the same Gov. Abbott who tomorrow — tomorrow — will go speak at the NRA convention in Houston,” Schumer said. “Gov. Abbott, will you ask your MAGA buddies and your NRA pals to put aside their agendas and think of someone other than themselves like you asked the families to do?”
Update 10:20 a.m. Although Uvalde CISD had an extensive security plan in place for moments of crisis, the district’s planning failed to stop 19 children from being shot and killed at Robb Elementary School, according to an article from NBC News.
The district had doubled its security budget in recent years, according to documents, after legislation was passed in the aftermath of the 2018 Santa Fe High School in which eight students and two teachers were killed.
Update 9:15 a.m. Lt. Gov. Dan Patrick appeared on Fox & Friends this morning and spoke on “hardening’ schools” and mental health in the wake of the mass shooting at Robb Elementary School.
“We are a country in the ditch,” Patrick said. “We have violent music, violent rhetoric, everything is anti-everyone. Where are we as a nation? We have people in this nation who want to pull us away from God.”
Patrick also took issue with identifying some people with mental health issues as “loners,” saying some are not really alone but connect via the Internet with others who would praise their violent acts.
“They are on the Internet all day long where they play their violent video games where they kill hundreds of people a day.”
Update 7:17 a.m. Late-night talk show host Jimmy Kimmel opened his show without an audience Wednesday evening, speaking to the camera uninterrupted for about 10 minutes in an impassioned segment on Uvalde and gun reform.
Kimmel initially got choked up when mentioning the “little boys and girls whose lives have been ended.” He then took aim at Republican lawmakers, Fox News, Sen. Ted Cruz and others over the current state of U.S. gun laws.
“If your solution to children being massacred is armed guards, you haven’t been paying attention to what’s going on,” he said. “There was an armed guard in Buffalo. There was an armed guard in Parkland. There was an armed guard in Uvalde.”
Update 6:15 a.m. As the tragedy unfolded at Robb Elementary School, a crowd of frustrated onlookers were urging police to charge in and stop the violence, the Associated Press reported.
“Let’s just rush in because the cops aren’t doing anything like they are supposed to,” said Javier Cazares, whose fourth grade daughter, Jaclyn, was killed in the attack.

There are many things that can be said about this mass murder, but I’ll focus on the performance of law enforcement. I just saw a news report that armed officers arrived at the school four minutes after the killer entered the building. The killer was in the building for OVER AN HOUR before Border Patrol agents confronted him and killed him. Border Patrol agents? Where in hell were the local police and sheriff? When did the killer start shooting at the kids? Did police hear his gunfire but not respond immediately by charging into the classroom where the killer was?
The last question is critical. If police stood by, knowing the killer was shooting, and did nothing, there should be hell to pay for shameful and cowardly inaction. I am generally pro-police, but there is no way to justify their conduct here if they stood back while shots were being fired and kids were being murdered.
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Exactly, Jack. Well said.
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The police chief claimed his officers did not have the tactical gear to confront a man with an AR-15. Maybe part of this story is the disinvestment of the common good. If this were a wealthy area, it is possible people would pay more in taxes to better support law enforcement.
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I may be wrong, but I think the protocol is to rush the shooter andddisable him asap. Not wait for the guys with tactical gear to show up. Uvalde doubled its spending on security and had a Croce shooter drills.
Maybe none of the 80 people who responded within minutes wanted to be first to rush the killer.
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We teachers are expected to fight back armed people. We have been told this at trainings. We have no tactical gear and certainly no law enforcement training
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It was the fascist governor of Texas that wrote the current laws that allowed the Uvalde mass murderer to easily order his automatic killing machines on the internet and have them delivered to his soon to be bloody hands.
The parents of the murdered children should file a class action law suit against Abbot and every elected state repreantives that voted that easy-to-buy firearms legislation into law, holding them accountable for what happened.
These children and many others gunned down in public school classrooms are collateral damage for the blood-soaked profits of the weapons industry and the NRA.
And the elected fascist stooges in the Republican Party will continue to offer OUR children up as more collateral damage so those profits continue to flow along with the HATE coming almost exclusively from the extreme right.
It would not surprise me if there is legislation already in Texas that was written and passed into law that protects elected officials so they cannot be sued for laws like the one that made it easier for the Uvalde mass murdered to weaponize his hate and take it out on OUR children.
Why are children in public schools becoming targets?
I think public school shootings like this one are happening because of the lying hate machine doing all it can to turn people against our public schools. I call that machine The Destroy Public Education Crime Syndicate. They are also guilty.
Why hasn’t any publicly funded, private-sector, profitable and opaque charter schools been targeted by someone like the Uvalde mass murderer?
ANSWER:
Because Charter Schools are not being targeted with lies that generate hate paid for by the fascist billionaires funding the Destroy Public Education Crime Syndicate.
Our public schools have been the targets of haters because of them.
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Thank you, Lloyd.
AGREE!
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I was thinking today the levels of tragedy from losing a child to the frustration of living with lawmakers who do nothing. And then I thought of Ukraine. The thought of one does not in any way ease the thought of the other,
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Same. Innocents’ lives destroyed
that we have apologists for this here in the United States leaves me bewildered and angry
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Guns don’t kill. Video games kill. Can’t do anything about that.
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Both have the same root: politicians who don’t give a hoot for human life.
The politicians in the US who are more interested in cementing their power with NRA campaign contributions than kids and teachers have a lot in common with Vladimir Putin.
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The list of shame
https://www.newsweek.com/republican-senators-nra-funding-texas-school-shooting-uvalde-1710332
Mitt Romney is number 1 by a landslide.
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The local, certainly not Romney friendly paper in Salt Lake did a study. Romney hasn’t taken money from the NRA for years. Most of that money came through PACs when he was running for President. I am not Romney’s biggest fan, but this isn’t on him.
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A Senate report found the NRA was funneling money to the Trump campaign, and the money came from Russia. https://www.forbes.com/sites/sergeiklebnikov/2019/09/27/new-senate-report-alleges-nra-acted-as-foreign-asset-for-russia-before-2016-election/?sh=3562f54a6852
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What baffles me is that so few seem to understand the Russian goal is not to win, but to delegitimize democracy and representative government.
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GregB,
Yep. Winning is the icing on the cake. Getting the cake itself is the point (the icing is just extra), and their propaganda gets them the cake – delegitimizing our democracy.
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Lots of people are getting Rubles from Russia.
Thank you, retired teacher.
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The problem is that this perversity requires a total reset of the current American society. Every day we are told that ‘weapons’ are good. We just endorsed over 50 BILLION for weapons to Ukraine, where, apparently, war is good.
Look, I have a shotgun that’s used to eliminate ‘varmints’ (mostly squirrels and crows) from my small orchard. I eat the squirrels (assuming they aren’t too tough and old), but the crows, not so much. As it turns out, crows are way smarter than squirrels. First, they view the corpse and ‘mourn’, and then the avoid the area for at least 2 years. Squirrels are not that bright. So, I need a shotgun (not an AR-15, which is useless against either squirrels or crows or, for that matter, deer (unless you want to kill everything in sight). If you can’ kill a deer in one or two shots, you should be embarrassed)).NOBODY needs an ‘assualt weapon’, even folks in the ‘country’.
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Flash in the Pan
The shooter’s in the school
The flash is in the pan
The country, as a rule
Is half-way in the can
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The Empire’s in decline
And Fall is drawing near
But Rapture is divine
So all is naught to fear
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It is amazing what topics trend when wingnuts speak of big issues. Now it’s doors!! Doors! Not guns. Doors! The more doors you have, the more likely the grizzlies will get in.
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Also, Jim Morrison.
But… if we could just clone Betsy DeVos and post her at every school door with a shotgun, the Grizzlies would be no match.
In fact, all she would need to do is hand them a voucher for their cubs and start to lecture them on “School choice” and they would be on their way without the necessity of a shot fired.
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The more doors you have, the greater the likelihood of a group breakup.
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Add feral pigs to the list. Feral pigs, grizzlies, and liberals, oh my!
https://crooksandliars.com/2022/05/sen-bill-cassidy-claims-people-need-ar-15s
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“We just endorsed over 50 BILLION for weapons to Ukraine, where, apparently, war is good.”
Absolutely wrong. War is bad. DEFENDING A COUNTRY AGAINST WAR is okay. Not good. But what choice do they have? The same choice that some European countries made against Hitler’s aggression?
Sure, it’s easy when the only people you sacrifice to your pro-peace plan are the ones those in privilege believe are expendable.
Just reading interesting stuff about the conscientious objectors in the US during WWII — full of very thoughtful folks, many who had seen the horrible destruction The Great War had caused. But some of them had second thoughts as the full horror of what Hitler had done was revealed. In other words, it is complicated.
Now Deadalus, maybe you can explain why other countries conduct wars and yet they don’t have people walking around with assault weapons committing mass murder against children?
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Daedalus, we are doing what we can to BRING AN END to widescale, mass murder of civilians, including babies and toddlers and children, in UKRAINE, to stop Putin’s criminal war of choice
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Gun Worship
Our children are dying
And parents are crying
And so is our nation
From gun adoration
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Well said, Some!
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The Republicans are vomiting up the usual bilge that they do after every school massacre or mass shooting so that they don’t have to do anything of any real substance. They hide behind their distorted reading of the 2nd amendment which in actuality does not stand in the way of stronger gun laws and banning semi-automatic rifles. We have to do something, we have to start somewhere but NOTHING will happen, as per usual, because of the GOP. It’s so vile and nauseating. As for the shooters, usually young males, what kind of malignancy can occupy their brains that they could butcher young children one after the other….it’s too horrible to contemplate.
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Young men full of blind rage and insane notions of what masculinity means and a complete inability to grok the meaning of their actions, ones who have had any fellow-feeling or empathy they might have had knocked out of them, enabled by spineless, braindead, greedy politicians
The teen brain is not the adult brain. People need to start getting a clue about that.
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I think you are right: nothing will happen.
And sometimes nothing is much bigger than something.
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Entrances to schools need to be treated in the same way that we treat entrances to courthouses and airport terminals. Metal and explosives detectors and armed attendants supervising these. We cannot wait for gun legislation to catch up. We must take the action that we can take to protect that which is most precious to us, not in some future world made better but in the world as it is, now. Inaction on this is complicity with it. We cannot continue pretending that this is not going to happen here, wherever here is.
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Keeping out someone with an assault rifle who was bent on killing people and did not care if he died in the process would not be an easy task by any means.
There are lots of ways of getting into schools that do not require going thru a door. Shooting out a window with an AR15 probably takes a second or less.
Also, an assailant need not even actually gain access to the inside of a school. They could just attack when students are entering or leaving or when they are outside for recess or phys ed
Even much (if not most) of the security in airports is ineffective against such an assailant, not least of all because the assailant does not even need to go thru security checkpoint to do the dirty deed.
Not to say that nothing should be done, but I have doubts about how effective it would be.
Unfortunately, this problem is very difficult and does not lend itself to simple solutions.
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Which brings us back to gun control, which is probably the only thing that will have much impact.
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And tracking Facebook posts by those who plan such evil deeds.
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Gun control has had a very large impact on mass shootings in places where it has been put in place.
But as I said above, I doubt it will ever pass in the US, since not just our politicians but a large swath of our population values their assault rifles more than their kids.
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And ditto for the Supreme Court
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And even a hammer or rock would work to break a window and gain access to a school.
PS my intention is not to give potential assailants ideas, but just to point out how easy it would be to avoid a security checkpoint at a door.
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No one gets into Israeli schools who is not meant to be there. Not since a tragic event years ago. They have high fences, guards at school entrances (doors and parking lot entrances), and metal and explosive detectors/screening devices.
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I’m getting really tired of listening to people say that nothing can be done.
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The other thing that the Israelis do is monitor the social media of teenagers.
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At larger schools, the Israelis have guards on motorcycles constantly patrolling. It seems that the Israelis actually care about their children.
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When you are trying to come up with solutions for problems like this, it’s easy to convince yourself that “a school shooter would never think of that” but the reality may be (and probably is) quite different.
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No one is forcing you to listen to me.😂
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While patrolling outside schools is undoubtedly more effective than simple entry control at doors (provided the person or persons patrolling is(are) not simply shot by one or more assailants at the getgo) if one only does it at “larger schools”, what is to stop an assailant from specifically choosing to target a smaller school that does not have such patrols?
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More specifically, it is not at all clear to me that what works in Israel will necessarily work AND be accepted here in the US.
I think looking at what they do to “inform” the conversation is definitely worthwhile but that does not necessarily mean “patterning” our response after them is the best or most desirable solution given the differences in circumstances faced by the two countries (which are quite significant)
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Two points.
I didn’t say nothing could be done.
Second. I was addressing the specific problems with your proposal about entry control, which you also outlined in another comment detailing automated doors with metal and explosive detectors.
I actually used to work for a company involved with airport security and these things are not simple.
That is the reality.
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I understand that these things are not simple, but we must address this. No one in his or her right mind would suggest that we do away with security at courthouses and airports. Why would we not ensure that we have even better security at our schools? Yes, people will try to find ways to circumvent security precautions. And those are the issues that we must address with fine tuning AFTER we have established minimum security equipment and protocols.
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I didn’t mean to suggest that you did, SomeDAM. There should be a guard checking IDs at entrances to school grounds/parking lots, too, just as at a military base.
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I agree that we need to do something.
But I think we need to carefully consider what the best approach for us because as I indicated, a lot of stuff simply will not be effective and may actually give people a false sense of security which can be worse than no security at all.
A while Israelis are certainly good at security, a lot of the stuff they do would never be accepted here in the US.
And while some may have no problem with it, I’m not sure we should accept turning our schools into effective prisons surrounded by high fences (topped by barbed wire?) and constantly patrolled by armed guards 24/7.
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As an aside, in addition to TSA, the Israeli government was a client of the company I worked for.
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Let me be as clear about this as I can be. We know that we are not going to get effective gun control in much of this country. Therefore, we must do what we actually CAN do, which is what the Israelis have done, to protect our schools. If we do not do this, then these shootings will continue to happen, and kids will die, and then people will make a lot of noise, and then, again, nothing will be done.
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And no. I did not work for “The Company” (aka, the CIA)😂
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What we CAN do has to take into account what the American public will accept.
That goes for school security as well as gun control.
And while people may accept some of it and it is certainly worth considering all options, I have my doubts that the American public would accept all what is done in Israel, not least of all because we have a much more open society.
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I’ll be quite frank and say that I would not want my neighborhood schools surrounded by high fences with perimeters patrolled 24/7 by heavily armed guards.
While you might find that acceptable , I don’t. And I suspect I am not alone in feeling that way.
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I think people and the people they elect need to make a decision.
Do they want to accept some perfectly reasonable gun control measures? or do they want a “security state” which is actually neither free nor secure.
Those are the choices — and neither of them can actually ensure that mass shootings will not occur, by the way.
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Freedom?
If having a beer
Means living in fear
And holding a gun
The terror has won
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I’m having a difficult time understanding your position, SomeDAM. On the one hand, you say that we are not going to get decent gun control, that “NOTHING will happen,” and on the other you say that we should not implement Israeli-style school security. Well, given both of those, no gun control, very little security, then these shootings will continue to happen, randomly. It could be any school that is next.
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I don’t claim to have “the answer” .
I don’t know where the answer will fall on the spectrum of possibilities, but I’m pretty sure that ” doing nothing” and “doing what the Israelis do” are not the only two choices.
And as I said, it’s not just what either you or I accept, but what the American public accepts.
Maybe some version of patrols would work without the high fences and the rest.
You seem a lot more sure about this than I am.
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Not incidentally, “doing what Israel does” to secure schools — with soldiers — would undoubtedly violate US law (specifically the Posse Comitatus Act, “which limits the powers of the federal government in the use of federal military personnel to enforce domestic policies within the United States. ”
Do you think Republicans or even Democrats in Congress are going to vote to do away with that?
Do you think the American public would accept that?
I don’t.
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It’s kind of funny, but despite thinking (just earlier today) that gun control was probably “not going to happen”, after more consideration of the issues discussed here, I’m starting to think it may actually be the easier solution politically. (not easy, just easier)
I think high fences, gated schools, heavily armed patrols and all the rest of the military style lockdowns are probably not going to fly in most communities here in the US, not just because the communities won’t want them, but also because the communities will simply not see the need unless (God forbid) it does happen — and don’t have the considerable money (probably millions of dollars) to spend on something which they perceive to be of very low likelihood. And good luck wit trying to get thecurrent Congress or state governments to foot the bill.
But I think David Hogg and others have made some very good suggestions about what can be accomplished without even having bipartisan public or Congressional agreement..
One of the key issues is preparation and what they have suggested could start the ball rolling toward that goal.
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High fences around school properties, a single entrance with a guardhouse, metal detectors and automatically locking doors at building entrances. Yeah, these would be just too onerous. They would make it look as though attending school until the age of 16 were compulsory or something.
It comes down to this: We either protect our schools as the Israelis do, or we shall continue to have these events. Then people will talk about how horrified they are and how nothing’s being done and then they will do nothing and we will have more of these.
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My suggestions would not violate the Posse Comitatus Act. The guards need not be federal personnel.
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OK, Bob
Sounds like you have “The Answer”(TM)
Now all you have to do is convince Congress and the American public to adopt it.
Should be easy.😂
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If you would like a copy, someDAM, of my book The Answers re: Everything, by Enlightened Master Bob, just send $49.99 to the following address in the Cayman Islands. One of my spiritual wives will be standing by to take your order.
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This is your lucky day, however. For this week only, The Answer is $42.
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Highly recommended:
I do not know enough about firearms to comment on the specific details of Dr. Taylor’s proposal, but it makes enormous sense to me.
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Alex Jones on the Uvalde shooting:
“Everybody should be able to question this because there’s been so many false flags, so many provocateured operations.”
and
“It’s very suspicious timing.”
Why does this creep still have enough money to run a large media operation?
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I’m sure he’s got plenty of money stashed in Swiss Banks and/or cryptocurrency.
He’s not as dumb as he looks.
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And besides, he is financed others.
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Nobody can pull you away from God.
2.you will take $ NRA and tell our state of tx to buy more cause we are in 2nd to calf. that is thinking only of self.
Fox and frigging idiots get ppl thinking govt going door to door and take guns. Yall know that’s bullshit. Guns for game hunting and a gun for home protection isn’t the problem.
Fox News you are a serious problem that is promoting hate and lies and you know it. Nobody needs assault weapons. If ya have em you need counciling. So many dead.
Dan Patrick and gov and the big FOX…hopefully yall may learn
We are in the world….but not of the world.
Learn to be men.
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Huh?
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Jan is rightly pointing out that Fox, politicians and others are just fearmongering when they claim that “They are going to take away all your guns”
But that is not what most gun control advocates are calling for and that is not what was done in places like Australia where gun control has had a major impact on mass shootings.
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Admiral James Stavridis nails this in the interview below.
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Question: Should civilians have access to assault weapons? The Admiral’s answer: “Three words: of course not.”
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Stephen Colbert: Should civilians have Apache Helicopters, Predator Drones with Hellfire missiles, F16s and suitcase nukes?
Ted Cruz: Of course
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JosEllen upon reading an Onion article sent by a friend:
“I really hate It when satire tells more truth than news.”
It puts me about where I am. Maybe the police did. Maybe not. Maybe the gun boy was crazy. You think? Maybe we love our guns too much. Couldn’t be.
Conservative friends post slogans: “We don’t have a gun problem. We have a sin problem.”. “We have all this because we don’t pray in school.”
There are two types of shootings we are having now. We have just had these in successive incidents. Buffalo illustrated the philosophical slayer, the one whose mental instability is fed by conservative political conspiracy theories. Texas illustrates the generally disaffected teen whose own darkness is mixed toxically with guns as a panacea. I do not know of other stories, but I do not know of a radical left in America inspiring something similar.
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Sorry, Roy. I meant to post that elsewhere.
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This is something I found floating around the Internet, if it was already posted on Diane’s blog, my apologies: “How about we treat every young man who wants to buy a gun like every woman who wants to get an abortion — mandatory 48-hr waiting period, parental permission, a note from his doctor proving he understands what he’s about to do, a video he has to watch about the effects of gun violence, an ultrasound wand up the ass (just because). Let’s close down all but one gun shop in every state and make him travel hundreds of miles, take time off work, and stay overnight in a strange town to get a gun. Make him walk through a gauntlet of people holding photos of loved ones who were shot to death, people who call him a murderer and beg him not to buy a gun.
It makes more sense to do this with young men and guns than with women and health care, right? I mean, no woman getting an abortion has killed a room full of people in seconds, right?”
Amen and do not pass the ammunition.
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Georgia Assault Rifle/NRA Manufacturer of Uvalde Weapon Of Mass Destruction is Arms Maker Marvin & Cindy Daniel/Owners of Daniel Defense.
They are deep-pocket GOPee donors, influencers, lobbyists & advertisers.
They routinely Give Big Bucks to candidates and committees at all federal/state levels.
Their blood money donations look for any candidate or campaign aligned AGAINST limits on access to assault rifles and semiautomatic weapons.
Daniel Defense Blood Money has bankrolled Herschel Walker, Joni Ernst (Iowa), Tim Scott (S.C.) and John Neely Kennedy (LA) as well as Eric Schmitt, the AG of Missouri and Republican candidate for U.S. Senate.
Their weapon made Uvalde School Massacre possible. Their greedy cowardice compelled them to shutdown the weapons booth they’d purchased for NRA Memorial Day Weekend Convention. But their life-ending legacy lives on.
WAPO
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Two typical GOP gargoyles who stand in the way of reducing the gun slaughter in this country. Other wealthy democracies don’t have to deal with dopes like Shelby, Tuberville, Ted Cruz or Louie Gohmert.
Richard C. Shelby Ala.
N.R.A. RATING: A+
CAREER N.R.A. FUNDING: $259,000
“I’m a Second Amendment person, period.”
Tommy Tuberville Ala.
N.R.A. RATING: A
CAREER N.R.A. FUNDING: $10,000
“I’m willing to say that I’m very sorry it happened. But guns are not the problem, OK? People are the problem. That’s where it starts — and we’ve had guns forever. And we’re going to continue to have guns.”
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The Republican Party deifies an obnoxious bully of the crudest, rudest, and most vindictive sort — that’s the role model they hold up for youngsters to emulate — and we’re supposed to believe it’s video games leading them astray …
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I bet Trumpnite(aka Fornication nite) would be a popular video game among the Trumpers, complete with Stormy Daniels.
Although it would be X rated, so off limits to most school kids.
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The original Sin — and the source of all the current problems of humankind — is that Adam didn’t kill the snake in the Garden of Eden when he had the opportunity.
If only he’d had an AR15, he could have made short work of that MF.
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He was too distracted by Eve, so she is not completely blame free.
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Supposed to be a reply to Roy above.
WordPress has a mind of its own when it comes to comment placements.
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That’s the third time it has happened in this comment thread alone.
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LOL. Hilarious, SD!
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SomeDAM, I don’t have the answer to the school shooting issue. Herschel Walker has it, and he laid it out on THE source for information about guns, Fox News:
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