This is a remarkable document in the New York Times. It details the planning and coordination for violent action that began as soon as the results of the 2020 were clear. The Oathkeepers, extremists who refused to accept Trump’s loss, started their efforts to stockpile weapons and convene in D.C. on January 6. Of course, other groups and unaffiliated individuals joined them.
This account directly contradicts the claims by Trumpers that Antifa or the FBI were behind the riots or that the insurrectionists were peaceful protestors exercising their First Amendment rights.
Diane Ravitch's blog 
No matter what, hardcore Traitor Trump forever MAGA lunatics are never going to admit the truth, that he’s a loser in every way. The traitor even loses at lying and his base doesn’t care.
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While The Saturday Night Massacre Continues In Virginia Under Youngkin’s New World Order
Attorneys in the Office of University Counsel serve the attorney general. Miyares’ recent inauguration began an onslaught of over 30 firings within just over a week — these firings included the entire conviction integrity unit, a group of individuals that oversees the investigation of wrongful convictions.
An alumnus of both the College of Arts and Sciences and the School of Law, Heaphy was hired following his leadership on a critical review of local law enforcement responses to the “Unite the Right” rally in 2017.
Heaphy joined the University in August 2018, leaving behind a position at Hunton Andrews Kurth as the chair of white collar defense and internal investigations practice. As counsel and senior assistant attorney general at the University, Heaphy was tasked with directing representation of the University in all legal affairs and providing legal advice to University administration, faculty and staff.
Before joining Hunton Andrews Kurth, Heaphy was appointed in 2009 by former president Barack Obama to serve as a U.S. attorney representing the Western District of Virginia, a role he held until 2014.
Prior to joining the University, Heaphy led an independent review commissioned by the City Council into the response of University Police Department and other law enforcement agencies to the white supremacist march through Grounds Aug. 11. The report called UPD’s response to the event ‘woefully inadequate’ and highlighted that University officials failed to enforce separation between the white supremacists and counter-protestors, create a comprehensive plan to handle the protestors or coordinate with Charlottesville or Virginia State Police — or local community members.
https://www.cavalierdaily.com/article/2022/01/university-counsel-tim-heaphy-removed-by-attorney-general-jason-miyares
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Like trying to move beyond the five burglars, Hunt and Liddy with Watergate, prosecutors have to find the link beyond the frontline perps to anyone tied to the White House with which there is only general associations and not any proven hardcore forensic connections….yet.
D, would you say this is worse than Watergate?
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Yes, this a million times worse than Watergate. Watergate was a bungled attempt to burglarize the files at the Democratic headquarters. It was especially stupid since Nixon was coasting to a huge victory.
What’s worse now is that a hardcore group of militant extremists—not just the Oathkeepers—tried to overthrow the Constitutional process of certifying the election. They forced their way into the US Capitol, violently attacking police officers. They are seditionists. Never before has the Capitol been invaded by American citizens. Never before has a Confederate flag flown in the very seat of government.
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Exactly. This was an attempted insurrection, various attempts to overthrow democratic processes, directed by the President.
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When President Reagan directed the sale of arms to Iran to fund his murderous Contras, everyone knew that he knew about and, in fact, directed this (though not in its operational details). Everyone. Including all the Republican politicians and pundits who denied this. And now, ofc, it’s almost universally accepted. Of course this was Reagan’s baby.
The various attempted coups (there were several, working simultaneously, all laid out, btw, on Steve Bannon’s podcast) were directed by the Big Liar himself. Everyone knows this. Including those who most vehemently deny that this is so.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lin-a2lTelg
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“Doublethink means the power of holding two contradictory beliefs in one’s mind simultaneously, and accepting both of them.” –George Orwell, 1984
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Almost no one, right or left, now denies that Reagan knew all about Iran-Contra because it is no longer useful to people on the right to deny this and to encourage voters to believe the denial.
Same Trump, different day.
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I watched the Iran-contra hearings on TV in the rehab home where my mother was recuperating from a broken hip. I had a lot of boring time to spend.
The one thing I recall from this hearing was Oliver North’s refusal to testify on the basis of his perception of jurisdiction. He basically told them he was going to lie. Then he lied. Under
Oath. He walked. No one would hold any of Reagan’s conspiracy to account.
Fast forward to the investigation of the Clinton’s finances. We had a conniption over a personal affair.
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I suspect that the Clintons had an arrangement. That he had an affair with an intern is abominable. But married couples make all kinds of accommodations. No one else’s business.
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Ollie, Ollie in Free was caught because he wasn’t aware that simply dragging a file to the trash doesn’t erase it. LOL.
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The TrumPutsch was wide-ranging, highly organized, containing both legal and illegal, violent and bureaucratic elements to overthrow the United States Government. If a counter protest containing the dreaded BLM or Antifa occurred that day, Trump and his cabal would have diverted all QRF to that rally, and allowed the rioting mob of criminals to execute Democratic Representatives and destroy the official ballots. As comical and ignorant as Trump’s Gang was it came close to succeeding.
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Exactly. Criminal and treasonous action by the President and his enablers. And all pretty much right out in the open for anyone to see. What a farce the law-enforcement reaction to this has been. It’s like treating the food poisoning caused by contaminated meat by setting up teams to wash with disinfectant the plates in the restaurants where it is served. There. Took care of that problem!
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Governments have monopolies on certain kinds of violence. And their legal apparatuses determine, usually, the scope and intensity of that violence. The next Trump won’t be as ignorant and incompetent as Trump is. Trump failed because he didn’t have his Enabling Act and his Himmlers and Görings and Special Courts (Sondergerichte) in place. The Repugnican Fascist elected in 2024 won’t make that mistake, I’m afraid.
Trump thought that advisers like Bannon and Miller were geniuses (like Trump himself, LOL). The next guy won’t make those mistakes either.
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and People’s Courts (Volksgerichte)
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In the end, Barr wouldn’t be Trump’s Roland Freisler.
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But that’s only because Alito and Thomas have dibs.
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LOL. Yes.
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A great one-liner for political broadcasts.
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And Milley and Esper are arguably the heroes who saved what passes for democracy in the U.S. this last time around.
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If “democracy” hinges on the actions of just a few people (Milley and Esper and Manchin and Sinema), you can be pretty certain that it is not really a democracy.
That so few people alone determine policy makes a mockery of the whole idea.
Then again, America was never intended to be an actual democracy.
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They didn’t make the policy that the President cannot use the military as his own private police to enforce his will. They just stood up for it.
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BTW, whatever the ring kissers might be saying right now, I suspect that only Donald Trump actually thinks that Donald Trump will be the Party’s nominee for the 2024 Presidential race.
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https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/series/law-justice-and-the-holocaust?parent=en%2F6472
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There were many conspiracies by the Trump Clown Car Posse (TCCP) going on at once to try to overturn the election. Here, a few of them:
Lawsuits contesting voting and vote-counting procedures and technologies
Trump calls to Michigan officials requesting that they take back their votes for certification of the vote and hosting of these officials at Trump Tower
Trump call to Georgia Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger to ask him to “find” 11,000+ votes
Trump call to Georgia Governor Brian Kemp telling him to call a special session of the legislature to appoint new Trump electors
Attempts to obstruct and run improperly a recount in Wisconsin that had been requested by the TCCP
False (and illegal) claims made by TCCP and Trump himself to the national media that the election was stolen, that it was rigged, that ballots were miraculously found, that voting machines and software falsified the vote and rigged to do so by various entities, including the machine manufacturers, China, and Venezuela
The violent January 6th insurrection, planned and orchestrated by the TCCP, to stop the certification of the election
Petitions to the Trumpy Supreme Court to void mailed ballots and to nullify election results in various states
Attempts to get Vice President Pence to reject Biden electoral votes and block certification of the election
A conspiracy with a great many Senators and Representatives to refuse to certify the election
The choosing and direction of alternate Trump electors to be substituted for legitimate, state-certified electors, and the attempted submission of these electors’ “votes” to statehouses and to Congress
Terrorizing via death threats state election officials and Mike Pence
Consideration of possibility of appointing Special Counsel to investigate the “Big Steal” and delay the transition of power
Consideration of the possibility of declaring martial law and rerunning the election
Pressure on the DOJ to declare the election results suspect and to conduct investigations into the supposedly fraudulent election
Attempts to pressure military, intelligence, and police forces to seize ballots and voting machines
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And now Russian Troops amass on the border of Ukraine, seemingly ready to invade. Is there any doubt that Putin seeks to destabilize the world just in time for the mid-term elections. Already my conservative friends are claiming that Biden does not have the firm hand of his predecessor. The republicans are desperately calling for Biden to “Do more”. they were silent about Trump’s negotiating with the Taliban, even as they were silent when Reagan was negotiating with Iran.
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You might note that Russia is responding to a build up of NATO troops in Ukraine (and the ring of U.S. military bases/missiles all around their country) ( https://www.rferl.org/a/where-are-us-and-russian-military-bases-in-the-world/28890842.html ), and that Russia’s troops are in their own country. What do you think the U.S. might do if hostile troops started amassing in Mexico?
Please stop buying into the establishment narratives about Russia/Ukraine (which, incidentally, is a neo-Nazi stronghold thanks to Obama). It’s ridiculously dangerous to be playing this game of chicken between the two largest nuclear armed powers.
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Interesting article in The Nation:
https://www.thenation.com/article/archive/neo-nazis-far-right-ukraine/
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I am trying to imagine someone who is absolutely fine with AMERICAN neo-Nazis being encouraged by a Republican US president (he’s not a democrat so he can’t be all bad), who also thought it was perfectly reasonable for a US president to illegally withhold military aid to a democratically elected Ukraine president for his own personal ambitions and enrichment, who suddenly professes a concern for the rise of neo-Nazis in Ukraine as the justification for why Putin should be able to install his own puppet government there.
Maybe it’s time for this person to care about the Trump-adoring and Putin-adoring white supremacists in the US, if this concern for neo-Nazis is real. Where has the criticism of those groups been? I have only heard a defense from this person, their despicable anti-democracy actions excused as being not that bad or being “exaggerated”.
“What do you think the U.S. might do if hostile troops started amassing in Mexico?”
I think if the US under Trump was threatening to invade Mexico because it wouldn’t install a puppet government directing its resources to enrich Trump and his family, and NATO troops started amassing on the border to stop Trump from sending in his military to install his own neo-Nazi pro-Trump Mexican government, that most of us would think it was a good idea.
I understand that some present company is excepted.
Anyone who is concerned with neo-Nazis in the Ukraine but minimizes their rabid support of Trump and the right wing in the US probably has an agenda that isn’t good.
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Bob Shepherd,
If you read that Nation article, you will notice that it specifically says that this became far worse beginning in 2017 when Trump became president.
In fact, this article reports that Obama Secretary of State John Kerry “sought to assuage fears in 2014 by pledging that Kiev would protect the status of Russian.Those promises came to naught” — IN 2017, when Kerry wasn’t Secretary of State anymore!!!
As we all know, supporting democracy in other countries is frequently problematic when the country elects horrible leaders and neo-fascists murder potential leaders who might threaten them.
It is absurd to see the people who aren’t bothered with the Republican party unwilling to criticize white supremacists in this country pushing laughable propaganda trying to justify Putin’s invasion of Ukraine by claiming that the leader that white supremacists in this country love really is invading Ukraine to save that country from neo-Nazis.
We have always been at war with Oceania. I mean, we have always been at war with Eastasia. I mean, whatever will hide the right wing agenda to make sure white votes count more is what matters (and how dare those African American voters in southern state democratic primaries not vote for who I told them to vote for!)
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Your analogy is flawed. The right analogy is
(1) A U.S. with a small military compared to Mexico’s (2) Mexican troops amassed south of the Rio Grande (3) a Mexican dictator’s plot which attempted to install his man as President of the U.S. The U.S. has some experience with that- Russia’s Trump.
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Describing Ukraine as a neo-nazi stronghold is a red herring. There are, of course, many political groups in Ukraine. Suggesting that the Russian troop buildup is a response to NATO ignores that the Russians took the Crimea by force in 2014 and have proceeded to build a bridge across the sea there that cuts off Ukrainian ports.
Any time a country violates boundaries that are internationally recognized, it is a threat to global peace. If we learned nothing from the actions of Hitler, surely we should have learned that.
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Off topic, but is anyone bothered by the fact that there are people with speech-delayed children who can’t get speech therapy appointments where the therapist and the child aren’t required to wear masks? Not really? Ok, go on.
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I read that the folks who want to cut money from vulnerable children’s schools, reduce food aid to their families, take away their medical insurance and keep destroying our children’s environment also want to force vulnerable children with underlying health issues to be in classes with unvaxxed teachers and children, not wearing masks, at the height of the pandemic. And those admirable folks are also demanding that the most vulnerable children and their caregivers be forced into small speech therapy rooms with unvaxxed, unmasked speech therapists during the height of the pandemic when there are no beds for any of their family should they need medical attention for anything serious. No problem since the people who are demanding that vulnerable kids be exposed don’t care if they have health insurance anyway.
Thank goodness that there are people who don’t invoke a faux concern for kids only when they get some political mileage who have come up with all kinds of more thoughtful ways to approach speech therapy so as not to endanger their families by forcing them to have unvaxxinated and unmasked therapists breathing into their faces.
It’s very interesting to read the different ways that speech therapists are addressing this temporary measure which has been prolonged because of selfish people who won’t get vaxxed or wear masks. Anyone bothered by the people who refuse to get vaxxed?
Anyone bothered by the people who believe they are morally superior because they believe economists and businessmen know what’s best for kids and we should stop listening to doctors and epidemiologists?
Off topic, but is anyone bothered by the fact that there are children whose families don’t have health insurance? No? Ok, go on.
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https://www.usnews.com/news/health-news/articles/2021-12-16/teletherapy-vital-for-kids-speech-skills-during-covid-19
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https://www.akronchildrens.org/inside/2020/07/13/kids-language-development-shouldnt-suffer-in-a-mask-wearing-world/
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https://www.thejournal.ie/readme/masks-and-wearing-of-masks-in-classroom-5616621-Dec2021/
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https://speechtherapytampa.com/wearing-transparent-masks-to-help-special-needs-children/
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Off topic, but is but is anyone bothered by the fact that there are young children with long COVID? Not really? Ok, go on.
https://www.salon.com/2022/01/22/the-kids-are-not-alright-data-suggests-10-of-children-with-19-become-long-haulers/
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When the cult thinks it isn’t wrong or illegal because it’s them.
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Shifting to the other party- the Democrats’ most pressing current problem is Manchin and Sinema.
Their greatest domestic fear for the country is Gates’ joining actively with Charles Koch, a threat they should tell the public about which would distance Dems from the “elite”.
A plan is needed to rout the false flags in the party, for example the well-funded who occupy board memberships at organizations like the Robin Hood Foundation and the Center for American Progress.
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