Business Insider interviewed foreign inteigence officials about the insurrection at the U.S. Capitol, and they expressed suspicion that Trump tried to orchestrate a coup with the quiet assistance of federal law enforcement.
This article is deeply disturbing and worth a read.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-attempted-coup-federal-law-enforcement-capitol-police-2021-1
It begins:
The supporters of President Donald Trump who stormed the Capitol on Wednesday to stop the ratification of President-elect Joe Biden’s election victory were attempting a violent coup that multiple European security officials said appeared to have at least tacit support from aspects of the US federal agencies responsible for securing the Capitol complex.
Insider spoke with three officials on Thursday morning: a French police official responsible for public security in a key section of central Paris, and two intelligence officials from NATO countries who directly work in counterterrorism and counterintelligence operations involving the US, terrorism, and Russia.
They said the circumstantial evidence available pointed to what would be openly called a coup attempt in any other nation. None were willing to speak on the record because of the dire nature of the subject...
The French police official detailed multiple lapses they believe were systematic:
- Large crowds of protesters needed to be managed far earlier by the police, who instead controlled a scene at the first demonstration Trump addressed, then ignored the crowd as it streamed toward the Capitol.
- “It should have been surrounded, managed, and directed immediately, and that pressure never released.”
- Because the crowd was not managed and directed, the official said, the protesters were able to congregate unimpeded around the Capitol, where the next major failure took place.
- “It is unthinkable there was not a strong police cordon on the outskirts of the complex. Fences and barricades are useless without strong police enforcement. This is when you start making arrests, targeting key people that appear violent, anyone who attacks an officer, anyone who breaches the barricade. You have to show that crossing the line will fail and end in arrest.”
- “I cannot believe the failure to establish a proper cordon was a mistake. These are very skilled police officials, but they are federal, and that means they ultimately report to the president. This needs to be investigated.”
- “When the crowd reached the steps of the building, the situation was over. The police are there to protect the building from terrorist attacks and crime, not a battalion of infantry. That had to be managed from hundreds of meters away unless the police were willing to completely open fire, and I can respect why they were not.”

Biden’s Secret Service protection may have to fear “friendly fire”. We can hope the Secret Service isn’t one of Trump’s captive agencies.
The handling of the case involving Russian spy, FBI agent, Robert Hanson did not inspire confidence. Comey’s newest book describing his opinion about Trump’s anticipated punishment also doesn’t inspire confidence in light of the timing, prior to the election, of his announcement about the investigation into Hillary.
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Russia hacked into every department and agency. They know everything.
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I am sickened for our allies whose secrets were exposed in the hack.
The GOP executive branch’s willingness to compromise American security, began at or before Valerie Plame’s exposure during W’s presidency.
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I will not be surprised in the least if when the Trump drama has ended, the final pieces of the signifying jigsaw puzzle will show a traitorous relationship–Trump and Putin–at the heart of Trump’s reign and attempted coup.
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Frankly, I can only think of one worse job description than Biden’s Secret Service detail for the next few months: Being Donald Trump’s Secret Service detail for the next 10 years.
Ugh.
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You mean the prison guard for Trump?
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There were many inside ‘players’ on this ‘peaceful protest’. Just how did some of those protestors get police grade flex-cuffs? Bombs placed at various buildings with more in cars and trucks waiting for placement?
And 45 was happy when the protestors got through the capital doors, even though he thought the craw looked low class.
I am worried about what is next as you should know there are plans for more insurgence.
I feel for teachers who will be teaching history (or current events) and try to explain all this. I have trouble coming up with words that describe my feelings on all this.
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One of the vehicles of the insurrectionists was full of Molotov Cocktails!
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There were plenty of cops from out of the area and former cops in the crowd of Trump supporters. Some witnesses and reports indicate that cops in the crowd were waving their badges at the Capitol Police officers telling them that they were on their side and this march was doing it for them.
I have to wonder how those cops in the crowd felt after they said that, and eventually found out a Capitol Cop had been bludgeoned and killed nearby not long after that.
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At the least, there needs to be a massive and thorough investigation of this historic debacle. It should have never happened, the invasion of the Capitol building, the trashing of the interior, the violence and deaths.
Good news: the moron who vandalized Pelosi’s office has been arrested, the WV “legislator” who participated in the insurrection has been arrested by the FBI, the QAnon Shaman and the oaf who was photographed carrying Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi’s lectern have also been taken into custody. They all should have been arrested on Jan. 6.
Where are the clowns who said that Hillary would have been much worse than Trump????? Really!?
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Deplorable.
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Members of right wing militia groups are intending to descend on the inauguration as well. People other than Trump loyalists must plan the proceedings. The ceremony must carry on without violent disruption. Biden has already said he intends to make changes in the Secret Service detail. Biden’s security needs to be planned by those in whom he has confidence along with backup from the National Guard. Extremism needs to be taken seriously.
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I hope they check the Inaugural stands for bombs.
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I hope they have the inauguration inside the Capitol. Who’da thunk Biden’s life would be more endangered than Obama’s?
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Hm. The Bible is full of absurdities.
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The Bible is full of absurdities. . . . like the narrative on love in First Corinthians, or the Sermon on the Mount, or . . . . but in the present environment, what’s the point in going on.
Most of what Linda complains about religion and specifically Christianity is a PERVERSION of the teachings that are (wait for it) in The Bible and that are central to Catholicism. CBK
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This should not be a surprise. It didn’t surprise me.
In 2016, Police Magazine ran a poll to see who police would vote for and reported that 84% said they would vote for Trump. Only 8% said they’d vote for Hillary Clinton.
https://www.policemag.com/342098/the-2016-police-presidential-poll
In 2020, the same magazine reported that the Fraternal Order of Police endorsed Trump for re-election.
“Trump has made law and order and support for the police a main focus of his reelection campaign, the Hill reports. The FOP said it sent a questionnaire to both Trump and Democratic nominee Joe Biden and received responses from both campaigns in mid-July.
“The FOP, which has over 355,000 members, endorsed Trump in 2016. It said that then Democratic nominee Hilary Clinton’s campaign did not seek the endorsement and did not return the union’s questionnaire.”
https://www.policemag.com/572967/fop-endorses-trump-for-re-election
Add that to the fact that Trump repeatedly fired anyone that wasn’t totally loyal to him, those he appointed to lead the federal agencies Trump was hollowing out as he eliminated anyone in those agencies that showed any signs of courage to resist Trump’s fascist, racist, autocratic leadership.
Tracking turnover in the Trump administration – President Trump’s “A Team” turnover is 91% as of January 7, 2021
https://www.brookings.edu/research/tracking-turnover-in-the-trump-administration/
Biden team wants to understand Trump effort to ‘hollow out government agencies’
https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/527284-biden-team-wants-to-understand-trump-effort-to-hollow-out-government
Trump Fills Government Boards With Loyalists as Term Nears End
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-12-18/trump-fills-government-boards-with-loyalists-as-term-nears-end
Steven Sund, the US Capital Police chief that has now resigned was appointed to his position in 2019. The US Capital Police is a federal law enforcement agency that the president commands.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/jan/08/us-capitol-breach-police-chief-steven-sund-two-security-officials-resign-criticism-bungled-efforts
ANYONE, and I repeat that word, ANYONE that Trump appointed to a leadership position in the federal government, especially military and law enforcement agencies, should be considered a Trump loyalist. That doesn’t mean everyone still working in those agencies is a Trump loyalist, but Trump and his loyalists have had four years to identify anyone with the courage to resist Trump’s attempt to take over the government and did all that could be done to demote and/or remove them from positions with any power.
Four more years as president and Trump’s loyalists would have spread through the government like terminal pancreatic cancer. With only four years in power, it appears that Trump did not have time to cement his position as the Dear Leader for Life of the United States.
Imagine where the U.S. would be if COVID-19 had not happened. As horrible as this sounds, the pandemic helped us get rid of Trump.
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No, the President does not command the Capitol Police. Per wikipedia “It answers to Congress, not the President of the United States, and is the only full-service federal law enforcement agency responsible to the legislative branch of the Federal Government of the United States.”
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With the transition as it is, we probably should expect sabotage by Trump appointees, along with the direct assaults that apparently are planned for the swearing-in ceremony?
Also, and though many “reasons” given are correct, I doubt ANYONE has actually moved off of the 200+year-old IDEA that such events COULD NOT BE INSPIRED BY A PRESIDENT of the UNITED STATES. “It just cannot happen.”
On the other hand, those who are now being arrested probably thought the same thing . . . BECAUSE IT WAS THE PRESIDENT WHO INSPIRED IT, they would be able to get away with it. And now Trump implies that they are making a good sacrifice. But I seriously doubt that’s what the intruders thought at the time. He fools EVERYONE.
Besides all of the other correct or partially correct “reasons” that things went the way they did in the U. S. Capitol, I think everyone is in a state of residual naivete.
The breakdown of my own naivete started when, during the Republican Convention, they quietly removed the anti-Russian plank and then hired a known-Russian cohort to run the election. I have since then never thought there were enough red flags to hand out, actually . . . or if there were, no one would recognize them or what they mean. CBK
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I’m reluctant to put this in writing. Maybe no one will see it in comments. Trump
Might pardon the insurrectionists who were arrested before he leaves office.
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That’s enough of a reason to start impeachment asap.
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I think you are safe to put this in writing since I heard it suggested in several other places, as I was listening talk show hosts’ opinions. Might have been Kimmel.
When Traitor in Chief pardons the Capitol police we’ll then know for sure that the police was involved.
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Had to read this piece before I get back to work: Wow! Chilling.
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There were plenty of warnings about this attack on multiple websites and these were ignored.
They appeared on the websites of Proud Boys, Parlor, QAnon, 8kun, Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Periscope and OANN (news network) with details on how to prepare for the insurrection published on thedonald.win. One of the last posts on thedonald.win: “Bring a Gun.”
In effect these allies of Trump operated in the plain sign of internet watchdogs, and the work of the watchdogs was explained away or ignored by Trump’s whole security apparatus, and much of the press.
Security experts also know that assaults are being planned between now and the Inauguration, with coordinated “events” at state capitals, and individuals in elected office.
The red flags have come from the Anti-Defamation League, Southern Poverty Law Center, Toronto-based Citizen Lab, Rutgers Network Contagion Research Institute and others including the US based corporate risk firm G4S and the London-based Control Risks.
Now it the time to know, publicize, and monitor elected members of Congress who are “out” QAnon followers and to keep on publishing the images and names of current and incoming members of Congress who signed on to the Trump “stolen election” falsehoods. Elected members of Congress who supported Trump’s lies were co-conspirators in the attempted coup, and they should still be regarded as danger.
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My error. Here are my sources https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/08/us/online-extremism-inauguration-capitol-invs/index.html
see also this for the names of specific participants. https://www.timesofisrael.com/conspiracists-neo-nazis-gun-activists-the-trump-loyalists-who-stormed-capitol/
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CNN last night was speculating that the reason that Trump announced that he would not attend the inauguration was to signal to extremists that they could attack without fear of hurting him, not simply because he was pissed off and didn’t want to attend. Whether this is true or not is up to the FBI to determine, but the recent events are clearly creating hysteria and paranoia which is exactly what the Russian disinformation campaign wished to achieve we are told.
Security forces need to take extra precautions in advance of the inauguration and it would be impossible to believe that there are not Trump supporters in their midst when 75 million people voted for Trump.
We need to be particularly careful about fanning fear with unsubstantiated news stories in the interim. This is currently happening all over the Internet and even in some of the broadcast media as I noted above.
I remain confident that the vast majority of Americans are people of good will. We need to find a way to reopen our public discussion in a civil manner, and I proposed some possibilities in my latest article at https://eduissues.com/2021/01/08/healing-our-country-bring-back-the-fairness-doctrine/.
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I agree that the Fairness Doctrine (which was killed off by Reagan) should be brought back. Once the Fairness Doctrine was dropped, talk radio became 95% far right wing flame throwers like Limbaugh, Bob Grant (deceased), Hannity, Mike Savage, O’Reilly, Mark Levin, Rudy Giuliani, etc., from sea to shining sea. The far right radio bloviators laid the groundwork for a Trump to take office. We have Q-Anon jerks in the Congress such as Marjory Taylor Greene and other far right wingers who read from the Limbaugh script or even worse.
What is the likelihood of the Fairness Doctrine ever being reinstated? About the same as abolishing the Electoral College.
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I made some other proposals in the article that are alternatives, so I hope that you are not just responding to the title in the URL. I agree that this is difficult but I’m not satisfied with just sitting back, accepting the status quo, and sinking further into this mess. The shock of these recent events might just finally provide the catalyst for change!
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Correction, Marjorie.
“I’m a conservative wife, mother, and businesswoman who 100% stands with President Trump and against the left-wing socialists who want to wreck our country.” – Marjorie Greene
Sigh, when will be rid of these jacka$$es in the Congress? I guess not as long as people keep voting them into office.
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**She can send her $600 to me, please. CBK
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Joe Jersey Yes . . . and that’s what so many hear coming over the radio airwaves as they drive home from work. I listened to a broadcast ONE TIME while driving and was so “hepped up” by the time I got home, my blood pressure actually went up. Those commentators use every logical fallacy in the book . . . and no one seems to notice. CBK
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This is absurd.
He’s been forecasting this day for years – especially in the last 2 months. Beginning in 2016 with motorcycle gang escorts and KKK endorsements to “good on both sides” and “outside agitators” comments to blatant “I’ll protect your suburbs” and “Stand Ready” – – – a first year high school assistant principal would be smart enough to beef up security at Graduation and insure WHO’S WATCHING THAT GUY?
Have you tried to get near the UN during a Summit? Seen the Capitol and Embassies when particular foreign dignitaries arrive? They didn’t even have a tweet telling them the time and date – they just secured the place!
And, wasn’t the attempt to kidnap governors a clue?
Scary is this one really did “cross the line” compared to all the other “this is the last straw” or “how low can he get?” events of the past. His campaign stops attracted angry ralliers and his recent crowds have been about stealing the election. No justification – but that was the draw.
This mob was not “responding to an action or campaign event” – this mob was there to attack the United States Capitol with a hangman’s noose, weapons, declarations of targets (including Pence), and overthrow attempt.
Impeach? Article 25? Keep it a criminal investigation and get on with the new administration leading? Whatever – but protect the place
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Rep. James Clyburn agrees. For whatever it’s worth, I agree. It was ever so predictable.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/james-clyburn-says-somebody-on-the-inside-of-capitol-was-complicit/?ftag=CNM-00-10aab7e&linkId=108758737
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The business Insider piece is saying the quiet part out loud. Hard to believe such a huge oversight was accidental esp when trump had just installed loyalists there.
I guess were lucky that on the ground cap hill police did prioritize the safety of congress members. Imagine the alternative.
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If the members of Congress had not been whisked away to safety, there might have been a massacre.
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Rep. Maxine Waters anticipated the violence and days before the Jan. 6 sessions warned Sund, the Capitol Police Chief, to have forces ready, but Sund was unmoved and casually assured her that all preparations were being made.
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ira shor Perhaps Maxine Waters should have asked an older white man with a deep voice to tell Sund about the threat. CBK
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I hear you…
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IRA Just to put a cap on it, I have experienced similar situations all of my life. It was even drilled-in to my own consciousness . . . about myself as a woman. I had to go through a relearning process even about that. The good side is that the experience, once we understand it, gives us entry into others’ similar situations . . . not exact of course, but similar.
ONE way to view the white-boy movement we are presently experiencing is to understand that, in a similar fashion, their white-boy privilege has been similarly drilled-in to their consciousness of themselves since the beginning of their lives . . . it’s existential, and it has been wholly cultural . . . and they feel it’s being disturbed. Our present violence, not all but at least in part, is a ripping-up of a very old and rooted idea, an attempted expungement and, over time, a POSSIBLE change of view . . . OR a further hardening of heart. That’s not the whole picture, but it’s a part of it. CBK
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Thanks for this direct and informative article, Diane. Business Insider did a great piece of reporting here. Even though they emphasize the interviewees are speculating, their input is on the nose and connects all the dots. Far different from mealy-mouthed explanations by former Capitol Police chief Gainer. I already didn’t trust him, having read cites in a MSM article from a different former CP chief, as well as from a retired 30-yr career member of that force. Both said the prep & implementation of this security detail fell far short of normal CP procedure for protests.
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I find it very disturbing to read from Gainer and others that a violent breaking into the Capitol by Trump supporters was simply not anticipated. Yet we’ve seen in many places recently, including DC, that precisely that level of violence from BLM protestors was expected. This flies in the face of publicized research out of Homeland Security that domestic terrorists are a far greater threat to US than international terrorists. Plus as recently as 12/12 in DC there was a violent clash as Proud Boys confronted activists blocking them from BLM Plaza. Although their leader Tarrio was ousted from DC Tuesday– & Proud Boys are not yet designated as domestic terrorists [not white enough?]– the overall picture is: law enforcement is not connecting the dots between domestic terrorists and Trump’s far-right supporters.
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Tarrio got a “White House Tour” before the last conflict (12/12)….would love to know what was said on that little “tour” and who he actually met with? Seems a little fishy to me that Tarrio was pulled over and arrested on 1/5 for “crimes” he committed from the 12/12 protest/ murder fest. Maybe this was supposed to be a diversion tactic? Who knows, but the whole scene reeked of “inside job” when some of the USCP opened up the barriers and let the rioters in….and then were fist bumping and taking selfies with the rioters.
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I don’t see the ‘letting them in’ as an inside job. Various law enforcement types chiming in point out that once people were on the steps of the Capitol the game was over. What I find chilling and suggestive is the complete lack of basic crowd control measures, i.e. cordoned well back from the building and the forces necessary to keep them there. For sure more than one somebody interfered there, and it strains credulity to believe they just dropped the ball.
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The Capitol Police were overrun.
Why did it take four hours for Defense Department to send National Guard to secure the Capitol?
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NYT Jan 6:“Defense and administration officials said it was Vice President Mike Pence, not President Trump, who approved the order to deploy the D.C. National Guard. It was unclear why the president, who incited his supporters to storm the Capitol and who is still the commander in chief, did not give the order.
“President Trump initially rebuffed and resisted requests to mobilize the National Guard, according to a person with knowledge of the events. It required intervention from the White House counsel, Pat Cipollone, among other officials, the person familiar with the events said.”
Devil’s in the details, per an NBC report Fri: all the law-enforcement agencies plus Va & Md govrs are pointing fingers at each other and squabbling over the timeline. Looks like the mobilization itself may have taken two hours, as it involved calling back NG’s stationed at metro stops etc (per the original Capitol Police plan) to don riot gear—although that beggars belief. And for sure 2 hours minimum of foot-dragging at the Pentagon & WH.
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bethree5 NYT: “It was unclear why the president, who incited his supporters to storm the Capitol and who is still the commander in chief, did not give the order.”
I know they have to be very careful (if not totally ironic), but it wasn’t unclear to me. CBK
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Sounds like the best explanation so far for what happened at the Capitol. The orders given to the Capitol police will be leaked and analyzed. If they are missing, that would be concernful.
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“Those Who Can Make You Believe Absurdities,
Can Make You Commit Atrocities”
— Voltaire • “Questions sur les Miracles” (1765)
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From the information coming out I think it’s clear by now the guy actually thought he was going to get away with it — that the mob would install him as De Fatso (sic) President 4 Life …
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