Teacher Ken (aka Kenneth Bernstein) writes here about George T. Conway’s latest article ripping his wife’s employer, aka Donald J. Trump.
Some strange arrangement here where Mr. Conway rips Trump to shreds, while his wife Kellyanne supports her boss.
Wouldn’t it be interesting to be a fly on the wall at the Conway dinner table?
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I’ve commented on this before, but here goes. This is a schtick to secure high paying gigs in the post-Idiot era, especially on Meet the Press, which, I’m sorry folks hasn’t been worth a warm bucket of spit since Tim “both-siderism, horse race politics forever” Russert tainted, demeaned, and destroyed a hallowed institution. Pure and simple. Being a fly on the wall near that decrypt dinner table would be like listening in on Mephistopheles and Satan. They want to be Carville-Matalin v.2, but make much more money. Anyone who cheers George on is a rube. It wouldn’t surprise me if this is the Idiot’s gift to them. But hey, if George make you happy, have at it. They’ll be laughing all the way to the bank as they continue to destroy public discourse in a nation that can’t survive without it.
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decrepit
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Yeah. I’ve always thought George must have some serious character flaws of his own to be married to Kellyanne. Even though I agree with what he says, I still feel like there’s something wrong with this picture.
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Greg: Which is which? Which Conway would be Satan and which his agent? Thanks for reminding me of this literary allusion. It got me to wondering whether the Cat in TS Eliot’s Old Possum’s Book of Practical Cats (inspiration for the musical) was named something close to that for a purpose. Another time on that one.
Meanwhile, I sort of agree with Lloyd on this one. Whomever we accept as authoritative on the ill produced by this administration, we would do well to agree with whatever policy difference they have.
I would, however, take your point on the miscalculations the US has made in supporting various autocrats who helped us oppose communism. Whether it be Mobutu Sese Seiko or the Muhajideen, our support had come back to bite us in recent years. The US, once seen as the model for freedom throughout the world, has now become an anathema to many.
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Flip a coin to decide who is who! I understand your views and accept them, however much I disagree with them. As for your last sentence, our allies have now been burned badly by the US in the past two decades, first with Bush, now with the Idiot. Even if the Dems win every seat in every chamber, they’ve been burnt twice now and are forging their own ways without the US. We will see some heretofore unthinkable alliances and partnerships in the next decade, I fear.
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Timing. Just read this from former Australian prime minister in Foreign Affairs.
https://www.foreignaffairs.com/articles/united-states/2020-05-06/coming-post-covid-anarchy
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George Conway has consistently criticized Trumpty Dumpty without fail. While GregB’s OPINION (not based on facts) may be correct, there is an old saying that still holds true today: “The enemy of my enemy is my friend.” – The Art of War by Sun Tzu.
Cadets at Westpoint study The Art of War.
Corporate CEOs study The Art of War.
Until we get rid of our current enemy known as Trumpilstiltskin, George Conway is a friend, an ally.
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The enemy of my enemy is my friend is as trite an aphorism as it gets. Didn’t work out so well with the Muhajideen/Taliban, didn’t work out so well with the USPD, SPD and KPD as they blundered to allow Hitler to take power, didn’t work out so well for American intelligence operatives who protected German and Croatian war criminals after WWII because of “anti-communism,” didn’t work out so well for Churchill who tried to curry favor with Hitler in the early 30s, didn’t work out so well for Vichy France, didn’t work out so well for Reagan and Iran-Contra. Also, Sun Tzu was a plagiarist. The original idea came from ancient Sanskrit philosophers. I’m guessing even Wikipedia could tell you that.
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I do not think, Sun Tzu ever said “friends are forever”. I think cynicism becomes toxic to the soul when you convince yourself that you can use it to predict the future.
We may start start the detox by imagining what the fly on the Conway’s kitchen table would see and hear.
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Good points, Mate. Not trying to predict the future, though, just pointing out some examples from the past. Here’s what I think the fly hears: “Can you believe our luck? We can play both sides of the street forever from now on.” Think about it. Kellyanne should and hopefully be toxic to ever appear on a chat show ever again if we still have a government after the first week of November. Now with George at her side, their booking agents are salivating at the potential size of the contracts when the both-siders on MTP, Face the Nation, This Week, CNN, MSNBC, etc. start the bidding war for their contracts. I’m ready to make that prediction.
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Your dismissal of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend” is totally wrong. I do not think you understand what that phrase really means.
For instance, during WWII, Stalin became an ally of the US and theUK after Nazi Germany attacked Russia. The US, at great risk, sent fleets loaded with weapons and industrial machines so the Russians could make their own weapons and the Russians killed a lot of Nazis and lost millions of their own people on the eastern front.
Once Nazi Germany was defeated, Stalin was no longer the enemy of my enemy because that enemy had been defeated.
In fact, Stalin and Communist Russia became the enemy of the U.S. after WWII, and still is, and now Russia has a friend in the US White House who is the enemy of their enemy and that enemy is the United States. Trump and Russia are enemies of the United States.
That is the same reason why the U.S. armed and trained the Mujahideen in Afghanistan, to fight the Russians that occupied Afghanistan at the time. Once the Russians were defeated, the U.S. had no need to support the Mujahideen and cut them loose. Then they became our enemy just like Stalin did after the Axis was defeated in WWII.
Sun Tzu says as much. Read the “Art of War” and you might learn something.
Another example: Back when I was still teaching, I was one of two teachers that cosponsored the high school student chess club. The chess club met in my classroom at lunch, and I often played chess with students. We also had a four-way chess set. When I played four-way chess with three students, they would form an alliance to take me out because they knew I was the stronger player, but once I was out of the game, they all turned on each other until only one was left standing, the winner.
That is what Sun Tzu meant by “the enemy of my enemy is my friend”. Sun Tzu did not mean that the enemy of my enemy would always be our friend but only when we needed each other against a stronger enemy.
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The Hungarian language is much more cautious with the use of the friend word. In fact, we don’t have a word to describe a relationship which is potentially temporary. Apparently, we don’t want to waste words on such lightweight affiliation.
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We should be listening to mental health experts:
John Gartner Ph.D. started this petition to President Trump’s Cabinet
We, the undersigned mental health professionals (please state your degree), believe in our professional judgment that Donald Trump manifests a serious mental illness that renders him psychologically incapable of competently discharging the duties of President of the United States. And we respectfully request he be removed from office, according to article 4 of the 25th amendment to the Constitution, which states that the president will be replaced if he is “unable to discharge the powers and duties of his office.”
This petition had 70,597 supporters
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“Wouldn’t it be interesting to be a fly on the wall at the Conway dinner table?”
Oh it sure would.
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Lawyers represent their clients whether they agree with them or not. Same in high school debate, argue the side you are given regardless of your opinion on the issue.
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