David Currie is a rancher, a pastor, and a member of the board of Pastors for Texas Children. He writes in this post about those who claim that the Bible gives them the right to discriminate against and hate others. He is chair of the Democratic Party in Tom Green County.
He begins:
“Most of you have probably never heard of Rachel Held Evans, but I want you to know about her. In May, at age 37, she died from severe swelling of the brain brought on by an allergic reaction to medication she was taking for an infection. She left behind a husband and two children — a boy age 3 and a girl just under a year old.
”She also left behind millions of us who admired her and were inspired by her grace and courage.
“I followed her writings on Twitter and simply loved the things she wrote. She was a Christian who struggled honestly with the questions of faith. She wrote four books about her faith, especially encouraging others who struggled with making sense of God, the Bible and living the Christian faith.
“She always wrote about God’s grace, and she was courageous in doing so. She challenged those who gave simplistic answers to life’s complex questions. I’ll share a few quotes that especially resonated with me.
“It’s a frightful thing – thinking you have to get God right in order to get God to love you, thinking you’re always one error away from damnation. … The very condition of humanity is to be wrong about God. The moment we figure God out, God ceases to be God. Maybe it’s time to embrace the mystery and let ourselves off the hook.”
“I’ve come to regard with some suspicion those who claim that the Bible never troubles them. I can only assume this means they haven’t actually read it….
“Writing about Rachel brings to my mind Charles Perry, our state senator, who sponsored SB 17, which I call the “permission to hate in the name of Jesus” bill. It allows people serving the public to refuse service to people whose lives or beliefs conflict with their own “sincerely held religious beliefs.” Of course, what Senator Perry aims to do, in proposing this bill, is to give people the right to discriminate against gay people, or Muslims, or … well, you get the idea. If you don’t like the way someone chooses to live their lives or the way they think, it’s OK to disrespect them and refuse to serve them. Personally, I can’t imagine Jesus being pleased. Seems to me Jesus didn’t treat people this way.
“Rachel wrote: “I thought God wanted to use me to show gay people how to be straight. Instead God used gay people to show me how to be Christian.” Same thing has happened to me. I finally figured out what Dr. Tracy tried to teach me at Howard Payne — that the love of God is unconditional and that my role as a follower of Christ is to love people, not judge them.
“Maybe you disagree with Rachel and me. The First Amendment to the U.S. Constitution gives you the right to believe as you see fit, but it does not give you the right to discriminate against those who disagree with you. You need to learn the difference between acceptance and approval. You don’t have to approve of the way that others use their freedom in living out their faith and their lives, but you do have to accept their right to do so. It’s the American way….
“During the Civil Rights movement of the 1960s, there were plenty of people who did not want to serve African-Americans in their restaurants, hotels, or other places of business because of their “sincerely held religious belief” that white people were superior to black people. Sadly, that appears to be the “sincerely held religious belief” of millions in America today who are encouraged by our president and his statements in support of white supremacy and racism.
“What most bothered me about Senator Perry’s bill was his statement about how the Bible doesn’t need interpreting … that it speaks for itself. That just blew my mind, but it is typical of the thinking of Religious Right fundamentalists.
”Take, for example, Psalm 137:9 (NIV): “Happy is the one who seizes your infants and dashes them against the rocks.” I kind of think that verse (and a few thousand more) might need some interpretation….
“But I am very concerned that many Christian leaders — for example, Franklin Graham, Robert Jeffress, and Jerry Falwell, Jr.; and political leaders — for example, President Trump, Gov. Abbott, Senator Ted Cruz, Lt. Governor Dan Patrick, and State Senator Charles Perry, are working to redefine religious liberty as the right of Christians to be mean and hateful in the name of Jesus.
“That is not the meaning of the First Amendment, which guarantees all people in America — not just Christians — the freedom to worship (or not) freely without interference. It does not guarantee them the right to use their “sincerely held religious beliefs” as an excuse for racist and bigoted — or downright evil — actions toward others…
“In 1791, Baptist preacher John Leland defined religious liberty as well as it will ever be defined: “Let every man speak freely without fear — maintain the principles he believes — worship according to his own faith, either one God, three Gods, no God or twenty Gods; and let the government protect him in so doing.” America was founded on this very sentiment…”
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Trump, like many a would-be strongman of the past, built his candidacy and his presidency on hatred and fear. And he understands, even in his itty bitty twisted brain, Karl Rove’s lesson of the importance of the evangelical vote to conservatives. And so, Mr. “Two Corinthians,” the fellow accused by 20+ women of sexual assault, the con man who gave you Trump University, and so on, skips the UN Climate Summit (“It’s just weather,” he says) and does a dog and pony show about “religious freedom,” and in particular, about the freedom to discriminate based on religious belief. Here he sees an opportunity to wed his hate with his desire for the evangelical vote. Of course, the only thing sacred to Trump is Trump. And if he thought he could get enough votes to remain in office and so not face a deluge of criminal and civil indictments by proclaiming himself a Pastafarian or a follower of the Church of Bob, he would do that. Many evangelicals don’t care. As long as he gives them abortion and transgender bathroom bans, they are fine with him. God uses these weak vessels, they say. Aie yie yie.
On another note:
It’s amusing to me that people so blithely talk about what “The Bible says,” as if it were monolithic. This is a collection of thousands of works of a great many kinds written and combined (and often pieced together and changed by later editors and compilers over thousands of years). It’s not a book. It’s a library. And, of course, the pieces that make it up reflect the changing understandings–of science, of morality, of ultimate matters–of a particular people in those differing times. Thus some of the oldest pieces in the Bible treat the Hebrew god as the strongest or most powerful of the gods, and later ones treat the Hebrew god as the only god.
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And in private, of course, Trump makes fun of Choirboy Mike Pence because Pence’s religion is, to Trump, a joke.
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And in that regard, I agree with Trump. Pence’s “religion” is a joke. Except that if he becomes president, we won’t be laughing.
Please note, the religion I refer to as “Pence’s religion” is not Christianity – I would never say that is a joke. Pence’s religion is Xtianity – Christianity without Christ. A very cruel joke.
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Pence’s constellation of religious belief is VERY WIDELY HELD in the American Midwest, West, and South.
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So, which is worse? The amoral opportunist and con man, or the fundamentalist ideologue? This is a quite interesting question, and not amenable, I think, to simple answers. Pence adheres to a religion that teaches forgiveness, grace, and charity. Would he exhibit such virtues as chief executive. Well, I would not hold my breath, but hope springs eternal.
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“Pence adheres to a religion that teaches forgiveness, grace, and charity.”
No, he doesn’t. Again, he practices Xtianity, not Christianity. There is no mercy in Pence’s religion. It’s all Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God.
For my money (and I know a lot of people here disagree with me) Pence is far, far worse. When it comes right down to it, Trump doesn’t care about anything he pretends to care about (other than himself, and not even really that). Pence cares very deeply about turning America into a Xtian country.
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Pence is a dangerous religious zealot who would trample on the rights of others. Unlike Trump, however, he is not insane. Bad choice.
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Loose cannon vs. focused, power-hungry, cruel religious zealot? I’ll still take the loose cannon. Trump occasionally does the right thing, even if only by accident/fit of pique (firing Bolton, for instance).
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Trump is far far worse than a loose cannon.
He is engaged in a systematic effort to deconstruct the federal government and all its functions.
Name an agency and there is a Trump official intent on destroying it.
I am not sure our society—our government—would survive a second Trump term.
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Bob @ 1:47 pm: they are 23% of the electorate– same as Catholics, same as “unaffiliated”– but they vote 75% Republican. In 2018, Catholics voted 50% Rep, unaffiliated 30% Rep. Jews & other faiths (11% total) average out to 72% Dem – but the remainder (non-Evang Christians) voted about 46% for Dems. Of course, the non-Evang Prots, & Caths, vary some in each election, but on the whole Dems are short a few %. But what’s important among those 23% blocs: neither Evang or Caths are growing [both are waning], but ‘unaffiliated’ grows every year. Many of them are younger voters.
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Bethree and Bob-
Relative to their amount of influence, what are your perspectives about the success of the major, politically active segments who are driven by faith, evangelical vs. Catholic?
Do federal court appointments reflect more of one faith than another (e.g. Leonard Leo, Don McGahn, Pasquale Cipollone on the one hand and Pence et al on the other)?
How much overlap is there among the evangelical and Catholic activities that influence policy and laws e.g. Catholic Information Center, Acton Institute, Reed and Falwell’s groups, etc.
The Koch network, DeVos, and others among the richest 0.1%, sided with the conservative, religious agenda. Can we differentiate the alignment between Catholic and evangelical?
Are Catholics perceived as more mainstream than evangelicals and therefore, while the political activities are similar, evangelicals get greater disparagement from the separation of church and state segment? Would you elaborate on the difference in impact, ignoring the extreme language of evangelicals?
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“Trump is far far worse than a loose cannon.
He is engaged in a systematic effort to deconstruct the federal government and all its functions.”
I’m surprised to hear you describe Trump as “systematic”. He’s always seemed all over the place to me.
But what you say of Trump is equally true of Pence if not more so. Pence is very much like DeVos – government is simply interference in God’s plan to rule the world. If God had intended protections for gay people or safety nets for poor people or whatever, He would have created them Himself. Whatever you get in life, you deserve – it’s God’s will, except for that evil gubmint interference.
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As governor of Indiana, Mike Pence led the opposition to Medicaid expansion in that state. So, even though the feds were footing the bill, he was fine with having a LOT of people be sick and die rather than incur some small additional state expenses. This is evil. It’s simply evil.
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Bob Shepherd: The GOP healthcare solution: “More thoughts and prayers for an early death.” It saves money so that the wealthy can have more tax breaks.
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dienne 77-
“deconstruct government functions”
What do you make of the Amazon report about books bought by the same buyers of AEI’s Frederick Hess book proposing education remodel, “Unbound…”?
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Please note that that the many, many pieces–folktales, legends, laws, songs, myths, and so on–that make up the Hebrew and Christian Bibles do not typically appear, in present-day printed versions of these, in the chronological order of composition of their components, and many of the components are themselves made up of pieces composed at separate times and later edited together. Again, these are not books but libraries, composed over a long, long period of time. So, the oldest surviving texts were composed in the 8th-7th centuries BCE (Amos, the first part of Isaiah), and the Christian New Testament contains books written from about about 50 to 110 CE.
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Yikes. cx: Again, this is not a book but a library.
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Freedom of religion should mean that anyone may practice their religion without inference. It should not mean that you may impose your bias on others in the name of religion. Too many courts are allowing the “free exercise” clause in the Constitution to be interpreted in a biased way.
BTW, this is an important aside. Bernie was admitted to a hospital in Las Vegas where he is had two stents put in to clear an artery blockage. His campaign is suspended for now.https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/bernie-sanders-78-canceled-events-notice-hospitalized/story?id=66003850
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Catholics voted for Trump because he is against Roe vs. Wade. It is a mortal sin to have an abortion because it is killing a human. If one dies with a mortal sin on their soul, they will burn in hell for an eternity and never see god.
I dropped the Catholic church many years ago.
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Freedom of religion should mean that anyone may believe but not practice anything they want. The practice of religion (Crusades, Inqisition, genocide and all manner of religious extremism by pretty much every major religion) is where all the problems originate.
Certain “practices” should not be allowed in a civilized society.
Religious practices should be no acception.
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Retired teacher
I know what you meant by religious practice (religious incantations etc) but unfortunately, religious “practice” has taken on a very insidious meaning.
Even religious rituals that involve sacrifice are practices that should not be protected.
As you have pointed out, the free exercise clause of the first amendment is a loophole big enough to fly a 747 through.
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I’m glad to see someone in the Christian world understands this. Although it has been decades since I read the gospels. I’m confident I would have remembered the kind of garbage and hypocrisy, if they appeared in the New Testament, that evangelicals are retailing.
Pastor Currie, I thank you for your remarks.
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Again, the books that make up the Hebrew and Christian Bibles were written over a period of many hundreds of years, and they contain lots of contradictory stuff, some of which is very, very hateful and primitive and some of which directly opposes earlier stuff that was hateful and primitive. So, yes, you can find admonitions to kill adulterers in the Bible, and you can find Christ saying, “Let he who is without sin cast the first stone.” It’s not a book. It’s a library.
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What is the Hebrew Bible?
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Same, for the most part. Also known as the Tanakh, it is the source for the material in the Old Testament of the Christian bible. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hebrew_Bible
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Interesting. I was only familiar with the Torah. I didn’t realize that most of the source of the O.T. was also collected.
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As Diane says, the OT and Tanakh. are basically the same. Torah can either refer to the first five books or to the whole of the Tanakh.
Bereshit/Genesis
Shemot/Exodus
Vayikra/Leviticus
Bamidbar/Numbers
Devarim/Deuteronomy
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That is the first time I have ever heard the Torah used to refer to the whole of the OT rather than just the first five books. Is that just something that has been adopted here to make it easier for clueless Christians?
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But the term can be used to refer to the entire revelation, correct?
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I don’t understand your question. It may be getting too late for my brain to function. The revelation according to whom? Whose revelation?
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As I understand it, the term Torah, which refers specifically to the first five books, also is used to refer to the entire revelation to the Jewish people via scripture. So, it is used both specifically (the most common use) and generally. So, “He’s a Torah scholar” doesn’t mean that he just studies the first five books.
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the entire revelation via scripture and the commentaries
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The Old Testament
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God Log
The Bible’s a glog
Pre-internet log
Collection of thought
‘Bout what God has wrought
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The Bible
The Book’s a damnthology
Damnation theology
“You’d better live well
Or you’re going to Hell”
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BTW, a damnthology is different from a DAMthology although there are many similarities
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My favorite Bible verse that needs no interpretation is in Jeremiah somewhere: “Thus saith the Lord; drink, get drunk, fall down and writhe upon the ground.” Or that is the way I remember it.
Rachel Held Evans was a thoughtful author of religious ideas who went from a fundamentalist protestant approach to an approach that more resembles the mystic approach. Ironically, I discovered her in a Nashville Bookstore (those things are coming back, I hear) as she lay dying.
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Lol. That passage (Jeremiah 25:27) needs a little context.
There are passages in the Bible that are far, far too racy to be repeated here in Diane’s living room.
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Yes, Jeremiah definitely was not telling them to go out and get rip-roaring drunk for the fun of it.
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I think that in this passage, the Lord is saying, when I smite them, they are going to feel like they are completely incapacitated. The passage is a reference to “the cup of [the Lord’s] anger.”
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That would be my understanding as well. Jeremiah is essentially telling the Jewish people of Judah that they have blown it.
This little side discussion just points out how critical it is to put events in historical context. If we try to understand why someone did something 20 years ago with 2019 eyes, we must understand that time before we judge past actions.
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Jeremiah was a bullfrog
Was a good friend of mine
Never understood a single word he said
But I helped him drink his wine
Cuz he always had some mighty fine wine
— Joy to the World, Three Dog Night
https://youtu.be/Dp7KfG9AjaY
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How about these goodies from the bible. Hate gays, enjoy being a slave, women should be servants, kill your children against a rock, eat the flesh of your sons, daughters and neighbors in war time, and it’s okay to grab someone and make them run off naked.
I do not believe God wrote such nonsense. This thinking comes from the minds of twisted men. Religious people twist the meanings to be whatever they choose.
1 Timothy 2:12–13
“But I do not allow a woman to teach or exercise authority over a man, but to remain quiet. 13 For it was Adam who was first created, and then Eve.”
Psalm 137:9
“Happy shall he be, that taketh and dasher thy little ones against the stones.”
Jeremiah 19:9
“And I will make them eat the flesh of their sons & daughters, and all shall eat the flesh of their neighbors n the siege, and in the destress with which their enemies and those who seek their life affect them.”
1 Peter 2:18
“Slaves, accept the authority of your masters with all deference, not only those who are kind and gentle but also those who are harsh. For it is to your credit if being aware of God, you endure pain while suffering in unjustly.”
Mark 14:51-52
“A certain young man was following him, wearing nothing but a linen cloth. They caught hold of him, but he left the linen clothe and ran off naked.”
Leviticus 18:22
“You shall not lie with a male as with a woman; It is an abomination.”
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There simply is no such thing as an absolute freedom of religion. If a member of some neo-Nazi group establishes a “religion” whose tenets include genocide (and many have just such “religious” beliefs, no one in his or her right mind would think it acceptable for him to practice this. Others have rights, too, and some of these, under our system of laws, are inviolable. You have freedom of speech, but that freedom doesn’t include yelling fire in a crowded theater when there is no fire.
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In other words, one can not make a blanket claim that any behavior based on religious belief, such as discriminating against LGBTQX persons, is acceptable. Our general legal framework applies, including our laws against discrimination based on race, sex, gender, sexual orientation, etc.
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The “free exercise” clause opens the doors to lots of bias. If a Muslim believes in sharia law, does it mean that all women should cover up so as to not to offend the “believer?” This opens the door to lots of potential discrimination. I see this as if a person wants to believe in sharia law, he should be able to do so as long as it doesn’t impede someone else’s rights.
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Sometimes we even place prohibitions of free exercise of religious beliefs by adults. For example, plural marriage is unlawful even among consenting adults.
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I did not word that properly. Let me try again.
Sometimes we even place prohibitions of free exercise of religious beliefs by consenting adults even in those cases were the actions, based on those beliefs, affect only those adults. For example, plural marriage is unlawful in the United States even among consenting adults who want to practice it in accordance with their religious beliefs.
So, clearly, in the US, “Well, that’s my belief” is not a get-out-of-jail-free card and can’t be used to justify any activity.
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Perhaps I am mistaken, but I thought the original intent of the free exercise clause was that everyone would be free to exercise at their chosen health club.
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And that it should not cost them anything to do so.
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This is a very perceptive and problematic statement. The Declaration of the Rights of Man and Citizen sought to treat this problem in article 4: Liberty consists in the freedom to do everything that injures no one else…
There is no such thing as absolute freedom outside the mind of each individual. Freedom of thought may exist in a theoretical sense, but where it leads the individual to behave injuriously to a fellow being, I would concur with the French that it has proceeded beyond the bounds of freedom.
A minister once opined that people who took seriously the self-sacrificial love described in the Christian scripture were free to do as they pleased, for as such, their constraint would be more evident than any restrictions placed on them by conventional law. This is no more possible than any other utopian ideal.
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Religion is the oligarchs’ strategic plan to destroy the common good and to create colonialism.
A person who goes the route of TFA and the Kennedy School of Neo-liberal Government can, in her early thirties (good PR that she has a Latinx surname), co-found a Catholic school network and get close to $20,000,000 in dollars from taxpayers for the network while school parents ask where the money went.
Religion is evident when an archbishop in a major midwestern city brags about school privatization as “returning the church to its roots of social justice” while the school receives funding from the Lynde and Harry Bradley Foundation and features a former Bradley executive on its board.
Simultaneously, the Bradley Foundation plots to dismantle unions. And, staff go to the Daily Caller (Tucker Carlson’s program) to trash talk public education and to prescribe the education the richest 0.1% designed for the children of laborers.
If we predicted what race the school and foundation’s board and staff photo array shows , we’d be right.
The coverup of priest abuse wasn’t morally low enough for the Catholic hierarchy, they’re implementing the Koch agenda by destroying America’s most important common good and by facilitating colonialism.
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Thank you, Pastor Currie, for preaching decency.
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Trump has spoken about his ‘religious’ beliefs. They don’t match what Jesus said, but for the Evangelicals, that doesn’t matter. Religion should never be used as an excuse to show hatred.
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Jesus: “Blessed are the merciful, for they will be shown mercy.”
Trump: “I’m in total support of waterboarding. It has to be within the law, but I have to expand the law.”
Jesus: “Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you.”
Trump: “When people wrong you, go after those people, because it is a good feeling and because other people will see you doing it. I always get even.”
Jesus: “The King will say to those on his right, ‘Come, you who are blessed by my Father; take your inheritance, the kingdom prepared for you since the creation of the world. For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.’ Then the righteous will answer him, ‘Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?’ The King will reply, ‘Truly I tell you, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers and sisters of mine, you did for me.’”
Trump: Somebody said, well, it wouldn’t have been any different. Well, it would have been. I am extremely, extremely tough on illegal immigration. I’m extremely tough on people coming into this country. I believe that if I were running things, I doubt those families would have – I doubt that those people would have been in the country. So there’s a good chance that those people would not have been in our country.
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“doesn’t matter for evangelicals” nor, for the 60% in the other Christian denominations who voted for Trump?
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Pence is a religious zealot who epitomizes usage of religion to discriminate against women, trans and gays. With some research, it is possible that Pence will be found to be involved in the dirty stuff that Trump denies.
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Trump involved Pence in efforts to pressure Ukraine’s leader, though officials say vice president was unaware of allegations in whistleblower complaint
Oct. 2, 2019
…Trump’s deployment of Pence is part of a broader pattern of using both executive authority and high-ranking officials in his administration to advance his personal or political interests — even in cases when those subordinates appear not to know that another agenda is in play.
Officials close to Pence contend that he traveled to Warsaw for a meeting with Zelensky on Sept. 1 probably without having read — or at least fully registered — the transcript of Trump’s July 25 call with the leader of Ukraine.
White House officials said that Pence probably would have received the detailed notes of the president’s call in his briefing book on July 26. The five-page document also should have been part of the briefing materials he took with him to Warsaw to prepare for the meeting, according to the officials, who, like others interviewed, spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss internal matters…
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-involved-pence-in-efforts-to-pressure-ukraines-leader-though-aides-say-vice-president-was-unaware-of-pursuit-of-dirt-on-bidens/2019/10/02/263aa9e2-e4a7-11e9-b403-f738899982d2_story.html
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I think Robert George, Alito, Scalia, Leonard Leo, the Napa Institute, Pasquale Cipollone , “The Catholic Church’s K Street Lobbyist”, etc. have had and have more influence in D.C. than the Pence tribe. Granted, the Pence tribe says outrageous things.
If evangelicals hadn’t voted for Trump he wouldn’t have been elected. If white Catholics hadn’t voted for Trump he wouldn’t have been elected….
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Trump is about Trump, and he sees everything in terms of loyalty to Trump. He’s worried about the Republicans defecting, and part of that has always been that if Trump loses, Pence takes over, so it’s unsurprising that Trump should be willing to throw Pence into this. See, if you get rid of me, you will have to get rid of Pence too, because he’s also involved.
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“The Anti-Mary Exposed: Rescuing the Culture from Toxic Femininity”, that’s one of the titles that follows a book by Frederick Hess (AEI), in the Amazon listing, “Customers who bought this Item also bought”. The other books in the list, “Resisting the Devil: A Catholic Perspective on Deliverance”, “Catechism for the Catholic Church”, a book by Cardinal Robert Sarah and 4 by Neal Lozano.
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Linda: I would imagine few Catholics, nor Evangelicals, have read “Proof of Heaven” by Dr. Eben Alexander. He had a Near Death Experience and was a neurologist. In this ‘other world’ he experienced living in heaven. It is not what churches tell. He saw his sister who had died.
I heard him talk at a Chicago IANDS [International Association of Near Death Studies]. Near Death Experience is when a person dies and goes to the Other Side and returns to life on earth.
Doctors assumed that if Eben lived, he would be a vegetable. Obviously he isn’t.
Dr.Eben Alexander talks about his Near Death Experience & Proof of Heaven
Dec 7, 2014
This video is about Interview with Dr. Eben Alexander
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Does Neal Lozano’s religion fit with the Catholic Charismatic, the “new evangelization”? Are there Catholic communities that speak and sing in tongues, communities “Assessed by Archdiocese” over allegations of groupthink-cult-like adherence?
Is Lozano author of the quote, “I’ve found if you expect manifestations, you get them, you can either stir them up by focusing on the devil or….” Alexander seems remote from this topic.
Interesting search found reference to a Catholic charismatic church in Harrisburg. Readers may recall Mike Turzai disparaged female public school teachers at a DeVos event outside a Catholic elementary school in Harrisburg.
Evangelicals, different from charismatics or prosperity Catholics?
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Tommy Douglas, the Baptist preacher from the prairie Provence of Saskatchewan, sets a great example of what a Christian politician should look like. He’s the one that brought universal health care to Canada with the idea that we don’t have wait for heaven for a better existence, we can have a better life in the here and now.
Every 30 seconds, another American files for bankruptcy over medical bills. Tommy wanted to build monuments in the form of public health care, strong public schools, and sound public infrastructure, the sorts of things future generations would thank them for. He sets a practical example how America could recreate it’s democracy for the people again, instead of for corporate interests.
Here’s a miniseries about Tommy Douglas, showing how he took on the American medical establishment and won.
https://youtu.be/p9SNHt6lRCE
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