Leonie Haimson describes Mayor Bill de Blasio’s very bad, horrible week, in which he slandered teachers by saying they complain too much and closed a high school for struggling students over the protests of students.
A reporter asked why so few complaints of sexual harassments by teachers had been resolved, and the mayor said that teachers like to complain.
Leonie responds:
“Really? Only 471 complaints over the last four years itself seems quite low given the fact that there are more than 135,000 DOE employees — the largest by far of any city agency. Instead, the more likely explanation for the low number of allegations and the even smaller number of substantiated complaints is the well-documented chronic dysfunction and corruption at the DOE internal investigative office, the OSI, staffed by agents who drag their feet, whitewash, or retaliate against teacher whistleblowers when they attempt to expose misdeeds of their superiors.”
She then went on to the meeting of the Board of Education, which the mayor controls:
”Then last evening the Panel for Educational Policy met at Murry Bergtraum HS, the first with the new Chancellor Carranza. It started with typical DOE dysfunction, with hundreds of students, teachers, and parents standing in an incredibly slow line to sign up to speak, with two pairs of DOE employees assigned to take each of their names. Each speaker was asked to spell out his or her name, while one DOE staffer then recited the name to another staffer, who slowly entered the names into laptops.
“When the meeting started at about 6:15 PM, Chancellor Carranza repeated the news that the increase in Fair Student Funding to 90% – though not the Mayor’s controversial comments about the “culture of complaint” at DOE. The proceedings went on till past midnight, with one student after another begging the DOE to keep their schools open or being saved from being merged and squeezed into less space….
”The two most controversial proposals involved the closure of Crotona Academy High School, a Bronx transfer school enrolling high-risk, overage and under-credited students, many of whom had already attended two or more high schools previously, and the merger of two transfer schools in Brooklyn, Bedford Stuyvesant Preparatory High School and Brooklyn Academy High School.
“There were many Crotona Academy High School students at the meeting, all of them opposed to the closure. Students spoke about their experiences at their other high schools, where large class sizes and overcrowding led to them being unable to form meaningful connections with their teachers. For hours, students pleaded with the Chancellor and PEP members to keep the school open, including giving a musical performance. One parent said she was a DOE teacher, but she couldn’t help her two children who had dropped out of their previous schools — but Crotona did. The teachers explained that the data the DOE used to justify the closing of the school was out-of-date; later the Superintendent admitted to PEP members that he didn’t have access to the latest data but he insisted the school should be closed anyway.
“Crotona Academy has been a school in “good standing” by the New York State Education Department for the last five years. Closing a school is always disruptive for students, but it is particularly damaging for transfer students, whose self-confidence is exceedingly fragile. One student warned of an increase in street violence if the school closed. Yet the PEP approved the school’s closure by a vote of 7-5, with every mayoral appointee voting for closure and the five borough president appointees voting to keep the school open. Advocates say they will sue the DOE for violating federal law.
“The merger of Bedford-Stuyvesant HS and Brooklyn Academy HS also drew intense and passionate opposition. The merger is part of a plan to bring Uncommon Brooklyn East Middle school Charter , into the building, and give most of the building’s floors to Uncommon, which already operates a high school there. Uncommon has among thehighest reported suspension rates of any of the charter schools in the city, but for some reason it is a favorite of former Chancellor Farina anyway who granted it special privileges even when this undermined the education of public school students.
“Uncommon had to move from its current location, co-located in the building of PS 9, which is hugely overcrowded,at 117%, with enrollment having grown 28% since 2012-2013 school year. Yet the the DOE acknowledged that the intrusion of Uncommon into the new building would also result in overcrowding; by the 2021-2022 school year, the building is projected to have a utilization rate of 96%-104%.
“As a result, the merged transfer schools will lose an entire floor of the building to Uncommon . In addition, PS K373, a co-located District 75 school, will be assigned a classroom with only 240 square feet for its 12:1:1 program. This violates state guidelines, which call for at least 770 square feet for 12:1:1 classes.
“Neither Bedford-Stuyvesant HS nor Brooklyn Academy HS is poorly performing. Their graduation rates are at the 93rd and 88th percentiles for transfer schools, making them among the top transfer schools in the city. Merging the two schools will cause them to lose intervention rooms, counseling rooms, and classrooms, lead to teachers and counselors being excessed, and undermine the amazing progress made by their students, which should be celebrated and supported rather than undermined.”
So the Mayor closed needed public schools to make space for another no-excuses charter school.
I still remember his campaign promise in 2013 to reverse the Bloomberg policy of closing public schools and opening charter schools. I thought he supported public schools. Guess not.
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Diane
Isn’t this the same Mayor that Cynthia Nixon thinks is wonderful?
Abe
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On Apr 27, 2018, at 2:13 PM, Diane Ravitch’s blog wrote:
WordPress.com dianeravitch posted: ” Leonie Haimson describes Mayor Bill de Blasio’s very bad, horrible week, in which he slandered teachers by saying they complain too much and closed a high school for struggling students over the protests of students. A reporter asked why so few “
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Abe,
I have not heard Cynthia Nixon on de Blasio. I used to think he was wonderful too. I do know that Cuomo has been a nightmare for the public schools. If you happen to be a charter operator, Cuomo is fantastic. For public schools, a nightmare. Yet he will likely be endorsed by the unions.
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Most depressing truth STILL in 2018: “…he will likely be endorsed by the unions.”
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No one complained about the horror show that was Mayor Bloomberg and the closing of schools everyone sucked up to him. No one complained about Klein, lets stop complaining about the mayor and become part of the solution otherwise there will be no more public education. Public Education is on the ropes because our leadership has let us down and the children always come last. Lets think out of the box, we could have these corporations adopt schools and help upgrade them, we could get Apple to run technology classes in the communities. We can do a lot to make the lives of all students better so lets get going and support public education. Yes schools close but we need to work together and not get stuck..
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“No one complained about the horror show that was Mayor Bloomberg and the closing of schools”
[spit take]
I take it you never attended a PEP or CEC meeting during the Bloomberg years?
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Beata,
Many complained. None was listened to. Closing schools is a bad policy idea. It is a failure of leadership.
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My apologies, I only read the first sentence of your comment. If I had read the rest, I wouldn’t have bothered responding.
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Gah! De Blasio is right, teacher are always complaining. I mean, just because textbooks still treat the Vietnam war as a current event and it rains indoors and they spend more hours inputting data than they do teaching students and they have 45 kids in a room designed to hold 26 and standardized tests take up two weeks a year and test prep takes up most of the rest of the year and they have to buy their own toilet paper and…. Complain, complain, complain!!!
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ugh. cx, teachers are…. Sorry.
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This is NYC, the board of Ed supplies the toilet paper. I’ll bet the texts are up to 9/11 and being that I am being snarky at least he did not say “teachers with their wages we cant possibly improve the schools ” . I mean seriously he is the mayor , do you expect him to know what his agencies are doing. A sharper politician would have told the reporter I’ll get back to you on that . Then turned to an aide and tell them to investigate it ,sometime after 2021.
Unfortunately since the bruising he took in 2013 . He has buckled on charter schools.. Look it could be worse he could have handed the closed school’s space over to a real estate developer.
What can I say DeBlasio and Cuomo supported Clinton in the primary . Do you think their donors pay them for the prose. .
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Pretty disappointing rhetoric from the mayor, to say the very least; I’ve learned, as a New York City teacher myself, not to expect much from him.
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I would hope that Cynthia Nixon could help correct him. Shocking behavior. Carranza wasn’t adequately vetted…he’s been like this in every location. When will They stop picking such enemies of teachers?
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And then there is this….
Student diversity push upsets some parents at UWS school
http://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2018/04/25/push-to-boost-middle-school-diversity-upsets-some-uws-parents-
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I think de Blasio slandered all DOE employees and not just teachers (who number about 75,000, with another 60,000 being non-teacher employees) Is it possible that the majority of complaints are against teachers and the due process required by the union makes it harder to substantiate? I’m just speculating as there is no particular reason to think that is the case. But it is odd that ratio of substantiated complaints to total complaints in the DOE is so much smaller than other city agencies.
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How can you put down DeBlasio? You don’t have to throw out the baby with the bathwater. I mean, Bernie is no saint, right? Your attack against DeBlasio is an attack on Democrats and progressives.
I suppose every Democrat now in the city is no good according to your take on DeBlasio.
Oh, wait a minute. I must be confusing myself with you, Diane, myself? Or maybe I’m attributing a brand of thinking to you that night not actually exist.
I’m very confused.
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“Niagara Falls . Slowly she / he turned step by step ,inch by inch”
Just when I thought we were not going to hear the B word from NYCPSP.
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Diane Ravitch,
Just for the record – I hope you will note the response I received from Norwegian Filmmaker and Joel Herman to my post. This is typical and in the past I have always ignored it. But they – and others – often subject me to this kind of gratuitous snark and nastiness and if I reply in kind, they whine that I am being “mean”. So now I plan to call it out whenever they do it and hopefully they will consider their inappropriate tone and stop. Or I hope you will tell them to stop.
I hope pointing out that neither Joel nor Norwegian Filmmaker’s replies addressed any point that I made is not being too mean to them.
If you actually read the article, you will see that de Blasio said only “DOE employees” and did not mention the word “teachers”. Teachers are 55% of the DOE employees so it is possible that most of the complaints are not made by teachers.
Or it is possible that one teacher is accusing another one of harassment.
Perhaps someone can answer my question as to whether the due process required for any accusations of any kind against teachers – which I assume includes sexual harassment — would make it more difficult to prove or “resolve” a charge against a teacher?
I happen to support due process because I believe that while it is cumbersome and probably means some teachers get away with things they would not if they could just be summarily fired without any kind of hearing, it also protects teachers.
And I wonder if the strong tradition of due process in the DOE might make it more difficult to prove a sexual harassment charge.
In short – 2 points:
de Blasio did not mention teachers at all. He mentioned “DOE employees”, and only 55% of them are teachers. So is there any information on how many of those accusations are by teachers and how many are against teachers? And how many involve non-teacher DOE employees?
And how would the due process required for all charges against teachers play into any investigation that was done and the ability to resolve them?
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NYC public school parent.
Lighten up .
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Joel,
I agree. I’ll supply the helium and you supply the balloons.
NYCPSP, pick the colors of the balloons that you like.
In all seriousness, NYCPSP has a very intelligent voice and pays attention to detail. It’s just that people like Joel, DIenne, Fiorillo, Langhoff, Swacker do also, and we choose to look at big picture “gestalts” and connect many relevant dots that otherwise might not be connected, leading to some, I guess, controversial conclusions.
I will always consider NYCPSP an ally, just not a very nice one or always productive one.
NYCPSP, I love you too . . . . We have long broken up, but we are still on the same unimaginably large and extended team. Keep the force and continue to add to our power. I agree about due process, and I think all employees should have it.
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Diane Ravitch,
I am going to ignore Joel’s posts that are only about attacking me in the future, but I will reply once more to you to point out that this is the treatment I often get from some of the very same posters who are constantly complaining that my comments aren’t nice. In this case, I made an comment and both Joel and Norwegian Filmmaker ignored the completely substance of my comment and instead launched a personal attack. Both of them. It is especially ironic coming from Norwegian Filmmaker who has written long long paragraphs about how my tone hurts my case.
And I have never said “lighten up” to anyone who complained about my tone. I hope you will point out to Joel and Norwegian Filmmaker that their remarks are no longer appropriate and perhaps they will stop.
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NYCPSP,
You make a cogent, persuasive, and respectful argument here. But I want to remind you that you have attacked many for criticizing DeBlasio and other “Democrats”.
Ironically , the host has basically given DeBlasio a D- or an F+ in this article now that she sees he is not what he once said he was. You don’t attack the host, which is appropriate. You have hypocritically and hyper-critically attacked many of us for taking that same thought-out liberty.
I think you now realize what a does of your own medicine feels like and have learned from this. I will now stop “attacking” you and will continue to simply state my ever evolving analysis of the Democratic party, the party that is supposed to really stand up for working class interests and not with a prime focus on big business and big war.
For the record, I have absolutely no approval of 99% of the demonic GOP as well, so I want no one here to infer that I am a right winger, which is anathema to me.
Get it? Got it?
Good . . .
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BTW, NYCPSP, I have not critiqued your tone, which I find to be civilized. It’s very much not even of the substance of your positions that I have questioned. It’s more like you have been okay with leaning in the direction of putting out more of a protective shield for Democrats but not so okay with others who are simply not willing to hold that up that shield and do the same.
Your tone is fine; your unwillingness to allow others who really don’t believe in the Democrats nearly as much or at all is at the core of people responding to you.
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I hope my English was not too dense here. Please forgive it if it is, as it’s not my first language, and I am STILL (probably will be for the rest of my life) trying to sense “nuance” in the language. What a process . . .
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DeBlah-blah is a fraud and a liar. He will cave into anything that he thinks will preserve his now lame career. He is progressive in name only.
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“DeBlah-blah is a fraud and a liar. He will cave into anything that he thinks will preserve his now lame career. He is progressive in name only.”
“It’s more like you have been okay with leaning in the direction of putting out more of a protective shield for Democrats but not so okay with others who are simply not willing to hold that up that shield and do the same.”
If the first statement is an example of what you consider productive and honest criticism of a progressive democrat, then we shall have to agree to disagree, NW. I now realize that my attempts to address those kinds of frequent comments by you is not allowed. You should be free to say “DeBlah-blah is a fraud and a liar. He will cave into anything that he thinks will preserve his now lame career. He is a progressive in name only.” and I should simply acknowledge that you have made such a cogent point that it would be absolutely wrong to try to post anything that would suggest you weren’t 100% correct in that assessment.
For the record, I have always been more than willing to take the nonstop barrage of attacks that you and many others have directed toward me for a number of years. If you can find one instance where I whined to Diane Ravitch to have you banned, I will be very surprised. I simply tried to answer the kind of frequent statements you make like “DeBlah-blah is a fraud and a liar. He will cave into anything that he thinks will preserve his now lame career. He is progressive in name only” with – I admit – far too detailed responses trying to explain my point of view.
But I realize now that I should just accept such well-reasoned arguments you make as a fact.
The only reason I am posting in reply to you right now is because of the following:
I made a simple comment and the result was this barrage of gratuitous personal attacks from you and Joel. Because you and others like you have complained frequently and suggested I be banned from the blog, I thought it was worth pointing out your hypocrisy here.
(I realize that last sentence will probably result in a barrage of posts saying how mean and awful I am and I should be banned from this blog for being so mean and personal.)
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“I made a simple comment and the result was this barrage of gratuitous personal attacks….”
I know. Sucks when that happens, dunnit? I feel your pain.
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I mean, like you just use one little phrase like “spidey senses” and someone throws it back in your face over and over and over and over.
I’m glad you’re above that, NYCPSP.
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“DeBlah-blah is a fraud and a liar. He will cave into anything that he thinks will preserve his now lame career. He is progressive in name only.”
Dienne,
As I pointed out, Norwegian Filmmaker and you should feel free to make these kinds of sweeping judgements on any Democrat you want and I will no longer reply.
I’m sorry that I repeat — as I did above — some of the phrases I see used here by people who I believe keep making unwarranted and harmful sweeping mischaracterizations every time a progressive Democrat compromises or stumbles. I am guilty of replying to in a “mean” way. I admit it — my buttons are pushed when I hear these kind of unwarranted attacks – especially when I think that the politicians are doing some good!
Norwegian Filmmaker doesn’t understand why I don’t reply to Diane Ravitch when we might have a difference in opinion the way I reply to you and him.
Read what Diane wrote in the original post. It was critical of the Mayor. But nowhere did it call him a fraud and a liar and progressive in name only. It was critical of a particular action without making it a character attack in which the politician is a fake progressive who has apparently done nothing good and never will in the future.
I have tried to tell you this again and again but you don’t understand and I won’t keep wasting my breath. And now that I have been told that it is mean to point this out, I will stop. Except to try to explain my POV to you if you specifically ask for it by these kinds of comments.
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I have no desire to defend Mayor de Blasio on the school closings. However, I am not hearing anything from his critics about what he should be doing. Just what he should not.
Someone please correct me if I am wrong, but my understanding is that the NYC DOE is now legally obligated to provide space or pay for the rent of any charter school that wants to expand. The DOE has absolutely no say in the matter. And if some far away pro-charter board decides to grant 10 new charters for schools in NYC, the city must pay for their rent.
So, given that REALITY, the Mayor seems to have 2 options:
Offer charters space in public schools, which will come at the expense of some school that is already in the same building and could be utilizing the space.
Use money from the DOE budget to pay for a private space.
There is an argument for using DOE money for private space. What was oddly missing in this post was that the Mayor just announced $125 million in new school funding!!!
Most NYC public school parents are thrilled! Just like we were about universal pre-k. We didn’t parse some misstatement that the Mayor later clarified and say “oh forget about universal pre-k and everything else, because all I care about are this sentence that could have a lot of different meanings that I should assume has the worst possible meaning – even if he later clarified it — because de Blasio has always been known to try to keep women down.”
To continue, if any of the critics of these school closings could tell me if they believe that the $125 million would be better spent on renting private space for charters, please let me know. It is a completely valid argument.
If any of the critics of these school closings could recommend a different school to close that should be closed and de Blasio is wrong to close these and not those, please let me know. That is a completely valid argument.
I defend de Blasio not because of some knee jerk need to defend him but because as a public school parent I see all the good things he has done.
And I suspect Cynthia Nixon’s good relationship with de Blasio is probably for similar reasons.
So while we know Mayor de Blasio may run late, or spent too much time in the gym or say something without thinking that gets blown up out of proportion as if he is pro-sexual harassment, and I wish he would not, I care more about his policies and priorities.
And when it comes to public education his policies and priorities align with mine.
Here are de Blasio’s priorities in K-12 public education:
direct disproportionately high funding to the renewal schools that need it most
support real integration efforts that have already showed promise but do so in a way that does not completely upend the system and destroy it.
Re-zoning efforts to both relieve overcrowding and help integration.
The other misconception that I keep saying in some comments is that de Blasio has completely sold out to the charter side and gives them what they want — and nothing could be further than the truth. Although de Blasio has certainly been kinder to the charter schools that simply teach and do not spend an inordinate amount of time working to undermine public schools.
I don’t think posters realize how many charters there are in NYC thanks to the real corruption — Mayor Bloomberg and the SUNY Charter Institute handing out new charters (and free space) to networks that their rich friends decided poor kids needed.
I don’t think posters realize how many times de Blasio has offered those charters space where it is available but that those charters do not want. I don’t think posters realize how many threats of lawsuits have been made by charter CEOs because the Mayor is NOT giving them what they want. I don’t think posters realize how many times the Mayor has called the charters’ bluff — but that never gets attention.
Every so often – when there seems to be a possibility of providing space and demonstrating how much he is “cooperating” with charters – there is suddenly an outcry that de Blasio is a “fake progressive” owned by the right wing billionaire pro-charter privatizers.
It is ironic because I guarantee you that those right wing billionaire pro-charter privatizers have made it their 4 year mission to stop de Blasio and they are still doing it. They HATE him because he is not giving their pet charters what they want. He is giving their pet charters A LITTLE of what they want and figuring out ways to give them what he is legally obliged to do without giving them all that they want.
Mayor de Blasio is trying to find a balance that all Mayors who balance competing interests must make. And there are times when de Blasio’s choice of how to balance those interests will be wrong.
But the chutzpah of anyone saying he is a “fake progressive” sickens this public school parent who has seen REAL “non-progressives” in politics.
And it is not surprising that it is the exact same insult thrown at Cynthia Nixon. It is designed to undermine progressive politicians based on some out of context words. Because if the public was hearing daily about that politician’s accomplishments instead of the mischaracterization of how that politician was really a fake progressive, the public might actually vote for them!
We should absolutely criticize progressive politicians when they make choices that are wrong. But I would like to hear some of those critics offer what is a better choice when the law must be followed.
Use that $125 million to rent private space for charters instead of giving it to public schools that have been underfunded? Or take money from the Renewal program or some other program?
Find another public school to close? Which one?
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Mayor de Blasio should stick by his 2013 campaign promise to forge a pro-public school agenda, and not to close public schools.
That’s pretty simple.
He doesn’t have to give space to charters unless there is space available.
He has stopped criticizing predatory charters.
Why?
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Exactly, Diane.
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Diane,
I absolutely admit that as a public school parent I believe that Mayor de Blasio is forging a pro-public school agenda and has not suddenly become pro-charter. Maybe I am deluding myself, but if I look at the entirety of what de Blasio has done over 4 years and compare it to what Bloomberg did for 12, I see far more accomplished in 4 years. And criticizing predatory charters didn’t do anything except have Albany force de Blasio to give charters free space. What the Mayor is doing now is giving them enough of what they want – and not all that they want — to be immune from their attacks that he is breaking the law. Eva Moskowitz has been throwing temper tantrums for 8 or 9 months because the Mayor hasn’t met the deadlines she invented for him. And the Mayor is being very careful not to give her any ammunition by criticizing her charter directly, but instead is giving her just enough so that her attacks demanding more just makes her look greedy.
Aside from de Blasio’s biggest “progressive” accomplishment –universal pre-k that serves 65,000 4 year olds a year!, I am watching middle schools in my district becoming far more integrated without a lot of rancor and anger and flight to charter schools.
I am watching de Blasio trying to institute some changes with teacher involvement. I am watching a Mayor who is trying to do exactly what he promised — support public schools — while following the outrageous mandate from the state that the NYC public school budget must give free space to charters or pay their rent in the private market.
I watched de Blasio’s reaction to that mandate from Albany that was designed with a single purpose — to make it impossible for de Blasio to keep his campaign promise with regard to charters.
de Blasio’s response was not to whine. It was to start an organization — “Campaign for One New York” — whose entire purpose was to elect progressive Democrats to Albany so those kind of right wing pro-charter mandates didn’t happen. Did that campaign to elect more progressive Democrats take money from any person who wanted to give it because they thought it would make them look good to the Mayor? Yes. Was that investigated thoroughly? Yes. Was there any evidence of any illegal dealings with de Blasio? Nope. What they found is that people who donated got meetings. Or a phone call saying can you check what is going on here. The kinds of “favors” that are not illegal because having an extra meeting with someone that results in absolutely nothing improper being done for them isn’t illegal! Mayor de Blasio had absolutely no power to shut down or influence the investigation into his dealings and it went to conclusion. And found nothing illegal, except in Long Island!
(By the way, compare that to the Moreland Commission which Cuomo shut down before it could complete its investigation).
I acknowledge that de Blasio made many mistakes with Campaign for One New York. For one, he forgot the golden rule of politics — democrats who demonstrate even the appearance of impropriety should go to jail, while Republicans (or Dems who are favorites of the right wing) can actually change the law according with what their donors want or can direct enormous contracts to donors and that is just politics.
I also acknowledge that there is legitimate criticism to be made about de Blasio’s choices of which schools to close – or if he should close any. But I also see that the state was chomping at the bit demanding he close the very worst failing schools and instead of taking the popular choice, de Blasio said, no, I’m giving them enormous extra resources because those are the most vulnerable students and they deserve them.
While people on this blog see de Blasio as a sell-out, I see just the opposite — the guy who is often willing to take the risker choice even if it isn’t popular. This is the guy whose entire career would have likely ended if NYC had experienced any increase in crime as a result of ending stop and frisk. This is the guy whose entire career would have likely ended if there had been a single additional case of Ebola after he and his wife made a point to eat at restaurants and bowl at the places the Ebola doctor had been. (And recall Cuomo and Christie’s response for what the people who only care about popularity and safe choices do — forcibly quarantine nurses with slight fevers!)
You don’t have to think that de Blasio is perfect — or the second coming of Bernie Sanders — to believe that he is getting a shockingly bad rap with attacks like “DeBlah-blah is a fraud and a liar. He will cave into anything that he thinks will preserve his now lame career. He is progressive in name only.”
The Mayor has done many good things and I have every reason to believe that he will TRY to do many more progressive things. And I am certain that de Blasio will make some more mistakes. And the right wing will try to use those mistakes to undermine him to stop him from taking action that is progressive.
And what worries me the most is not de Blasio.
What worries me is how easy it seems to characterize progressive politicians who might actually do something as corrupt or sell-outs based on a few small misstatements or compromises or imperfections.
We saw the beginning of this with the attack on Cynthia Nixon where suddenly she was secretly a fake progressive and anti-union. And I will bet $100 that we will hear a lot more of those if the attacks about her inexperience don’t work and the polls are close.
I admit it — I think de Blasio has done a far better job as Mayor of NYC than anyone has given him credit for. Universal pre-k. Ending stop and frisk and keeping crime low. Efforts at school integration that are cooperative instead of something that will be used to drive a wedge and divide and cause parents to flee public schools.
He’s far from perfect. He has made mistakes. He will continue to make them. But he isn’t making them because he secretly wants to undermine the progressive agenda. And I suspect Cynthia Nixon knows this as well.
And I suspect that the only reason Nixon will distance herself from de Blasio – if she does – is because it is politically expedient and that if you asked her privately, she would tell you she knows that de Blasio is a progressive and not some right wing sell-out that some progressives believe.
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De Blasio should stop closing public schools to make room for no-excuses charters. Nothing in the law requires him to do it.
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You are correct. Nothing in the law requires de Blasio to close public schools. I actually think there is an argument to be made that de Blasio would be better off just using DOE resources to rent private space for all the charters instead. But I still believe public school students are going to suffer whether their budgets are cut so de Blasio can pay for charters to rent private space or if he closes a public school to accommodate them.
Is there a 3rd option that I’m not seeing that he could choose?
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No one makes him close public schools. That’s his choice.
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You are absolutely right that is his choice.
But I still don’t understand if you think it is a better idea for him to rent charters private space from the DOE budget instead?
I don’t want de Blasio to do either of those things. But he has to do one of them, right? Because of Albany and Cuomo.
I am just totally confused now as to whether there is a 3rd option that is better. If so, I’d like to know because as a parent I would absolutely advocate for it!
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Sorry, but you don’t close public schools to make space for charters.
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” the NYC public school budget must give free space to charters or pay their rent in the private market.”
So I guess, NYCPSP, posters prefer that he not fund other programs and keep all public schools open no matter what. I have to agree with you that the outrage is too simplistic. The mayor has to make difficult decisions about complex issues where there may be no good answers. You seem to be able to provide a lot of supporting information that other posters don’t. I know I am frequently guilty of knee jerk reactions to events/issues about which I am passionate. It is cathartic to vent on occasion, but I appreciate your attempts to give informed responses even if you are not always successful at keeping your cool. I know I couldn’t.
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I agree!
But what do you do when you are forced by the state to make room for charters? I know closing schools is a terrible idea. The problem is that I think all the choices are terrible. I agree with you that de Blasio made an awful choice and I’m not trying to defend it.
But I am saying that my own anger is toward Albany and Cuomo because they are the ones forcing the Mayor to make a choice that he never wanted to make and all of those choices are all terrible. I think it is important to remember that one of the first things the Mayor did when he got these marching orders from Albany to provide free space to charters, was to start to raise money to elect different politicians to Albany who would support progressive ideas instead of charters.
If Albany didn’t forcibly curb de Blasio’s progressive agenda, he wouldn’t be forced to make these choices between two terrible options.
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^^sorry, the above reply was to Diane – that I agreed with her about closing schools being a terrible idea.
speduktr,
Thank you very, very much for your incredibly kind words. They are much appreciated.
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NYCPSP,
You are right: Cuomo and Albany have been bullying the Mayor for a long time about many things. This is an evil perpetrated upon the mayor. I AGREE!!
But as Diane, said, the mayor has the legal, executive, and jurisdictional authority to NOT close school and to oppose charters. He should not close any school, and should only advocate for supporting public schools. That means no co-location, no renting ancillary space for charters. NOTHING charter! Doing so might well compromise his career. But let the charters use their wealthy corporatists to fund their gaps and facilities. God knows, they have the clout and money to do so if they are SO hung-ho about privatizing public education. And now they have even more disposable income due to the diabolical tax plan that has passed.
I must admit that I have fun connecting the dots . . . .
So let DeBlasio compromise his career and stand up for what’s right and just. Now THERE’s a concept!!!
He’ll more than land on his feet. He is taking the easy path, and THAT is deceptive to the public. Yes, he’s entitled to earn a living, but not at the expense of public policies that affect millions of families, children, and tax payers . . . and policies that malignantly change the DNA of society.
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“That means no co-location, no renting ancillary space for charters. NOTHING charter! Doing so might well compromise his career.”
NW, do you understand that de Blasio is legally obligated by Albany and Cuomo to either provide free space in public schools to charters or to use money from the DOE budget to pay for their rent in private facilities?
Are you aware that Albany passed that law specifically because de Blasio kept his campaign promise and did start limiting the free rent given to charters?
It took all of three months after de Blasio said he would not provide free rent to all charters before Albany passed a law requiring NYC to give charters free space or pay their rent somewhere else.
I think you are suggesting that de Blasio just refuse to follow the law?
And you know he is terrible because instead of just saying “It may be the law but I won’t do it”, de Blasio is doing the minimum he can to follow the law while also working hard to elect progressive politicians to Albany to change this law.
Did I get that right?
I am just curious if you would hold other progressive politicians that you like to the same standard? If they aren’t willing to simply break the laws they don’t agree with, and simply work hard to change those laws, they are sell-outs?
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^^You also don’t seem to realize that Cuomo and his gang believe that Cynthia Nixon’s primary challenge to Cuomo is all de Blasio’s doing. They are hopping mad. de Blasio is the devil incarnate to Cuomo and his gang. They had the run of NYC under Bloomberg and de Blasio is all that stands between their takeover of NYC public education.
Their chosen Mayoral candidate was Christine Quinn, who now (or recently) worked for Cuomo and now spends her time attacking de Blasio and Nixon.
It’s hard to imagine anyone who will follow de Blasio who is anywhere near as progressive as him.
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This must be extremely upsetting for the students and parents of Crotona Academy, Bedford-Stuyvesant HS and Brooklyn Academy HS. Closing schools is never a good situation for anybody involved and brings about lots of stress, confusion and unnecessary hassle. It is worrying to know that even though Crotona Academy is considered to be in “good standing”, it will still be closed anyway. Honestly, I am still confused as to why it is being closed if the superintendent was knowingly using outdated data from a bad academic year, a couple years ago, to justify the closing. For me, the justification for the closing of Crotona is very reminiscent of the No Child Left Behind requirements of making “adequate yearly progress” or being at risk of being shut down. So many of the Crotona students who had finally been put in a place where they could shine and grow, will now be back at square one and may once again, struggle to graduate. I wonder if rather than shutting down Crotona, the city could have tried offering tutoring or remedial classes on the weekends/at night for students who were struggling to meet graduation standards. Just outright closing the school, I feel like, will bring even more unnecessary issues for the students and hinder their future progress even more. The situation between the merger of Bedford-Stuyvesant and Brooklyn Academy to make way for another Uncommon School is also another unsettling venture, especially since both Bedford-Stuyvesant and Brooklyn Academy are doing extremely well in terms of graduation rates. As you stated, this will cause teachers at the new merged school to feel overwhelmed with too many students and not enough resources. Interestingly enough, research conducted by the NEPC showed that closing schools is a “high-risk/low-gain strategy” and that in the end, it does not help students (Strauss, 2018). This study shows that the closing of at-risk of public schools usually does more harm than good and causes these students to suffer emotionally and academically soon afterwards; it also showed that these school closing usually affect students of color the most (Strauss, 2018). I hope that the city and DOE think more about the consequences of merging and closing their public schools in the future. Public schools students deserve to have the same opportunities and chances of their charter and private school counterparts.
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Here is a link to the articles I mentioned:
-https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/answer-sheet/wp/2018/02/28/what-research-really-says-about-closing-schools-and-why-its-a-bad-idea-for-kids/?utm_term=.d514f5b822a5
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Stop testing them according to standards that are developmentally and SES inappropriate, teach them at they are actally at so that you can build them gargantually, and then they will succeed. Rght now, their lack of success ignores all the science behind human development.
CCSS + high stakes testing = school closing under false premises, a no brainer.
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You are right and that is why I was glad that Mayor de Blasio resisted closing schools just based on test scores. He was under great pressure from Albany — and still is — to close the schools that state called “failing”. Instead de Blasio directed huge resources to them with the idea that those kids could use wraparound services and support instead of just closing their schools. It’s not easy when the state threatens to take over “failing” schools and you resist by trying to give those schools extraordinary extra resources, and the thanks you get is 1. Albany saying you wasted money and this proves you should have just shut those failing schools in the first place and 2. Local people saying “the money isn’t enough and how dare you shut our school”.
For the record, I have liked that the Mayor is not using test score results to choose which schools to shutter, which is what the right wing has been demanding for years. At least he is trying to figure out a way to try to help those schools improve enough that Albany doesn’t take them over altogether.
Ironically, when people oppose school closings these days, they often say “but look it has pretty good test scores and isn’t failing”!
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According to Mulgrew, are test scores not being used? Along with teacher observation?
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In some kind of ratio?
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In Norway, we would never not teach to where the child is at, and we’d never not use growth as the true measure. My peers in Norway STILL cannot believe the United States, land of freedom, does this.
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It’s child abuse institutionalized.
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How does Norway measure growth? You know that in the U.S. benchmark testing is used. We do like our data points!
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A very comprehensive article on our system, but realize that our childhood poverty rate is about 4.1% or lower, while yours is about 22%. Because children come from fewer disadvantaged households and have more experiences and interactions with the world and with their five senses, their oral language expression, we we call it, is so much more developed upon entering school.
Also, parents are less stressed out to relate to their kids and teach them concepts and some literacy in a truly focused and calm way because we don’t have severe issues about housing, food, SS, higher education, child care, and healthcare. These are services we get, paid for with our taxes, and our tax system is more gradual and progressive, rather than regressive. Contrary to the propaganda put forth by the ruling elite here, we do not have death panels, rationing, or long wait times for healthcare, unless you are in a very very remote part of Norway, in which case, you travel to an area more gentrified for acute, serious health issues. This accounts for very very few Norwegians in this situation.
We are NOT a perfect people or a society, but you won’t see many Norwegians immigrating to the United States for a “better life”. Nor do many immigrate to Western Europe. There are complaints and competing polarized views in every sovereign nation, I might add.
Click to access EDUCATION%20POLICY%20OUTLOOK%20NORWAY_EN.pdf
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From the citation educational assessment : “…in Norway is based on a mix of teacher based classroom assessments and central examinations. Three types of nationally designed student assessments complement teacher based classroom assessment: mapping tests focused on identifying students in need of additional support (in Years 1-3 and first year of upper secondary education) and national basic skills tests (in Years 5, 8 and 9). At the end of compulsory education and in upper secondary education, a sample of students is drawn to take a limited number of written examinations (given centrally) and oral examinations (given locally).”
Not exactly what we have been doing to “measure” growth, which is a way to micromanage “student progress” incrementally. For example, students will be given a benchmark test at the beginning of a unit of study to assess their knowledge and then given another test at the end. It is also used to assess progress over increments of the school year. They may be tested three or four times a year to “measure” growth. With the advent of one-to-one tech, students may be assessing their progress daily with stupid little quizzes which are then used to make pretty little graphs of performance. sometimes it seems like kids are spending more time assessing whether they have learned anything then the time spent on actual learning.
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