Texas: Vouchers Are Dead Again, Beaten by House Republicans and Democrats

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1. Yvonne Siu-Runyan says:

   May 24, 2017 at 7:55 pm

   Hooray. Thank you for this good news. I felt like hiding today. Plus I am really sick with the cruds.

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   • Duane E Swacker says:

     May 25, 2017 at 10:16 am

     Hope you get to feeling better soon!!

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2. Lloyd Lofthouse says:

   May 24, 2017 at 9:04 pm

   If anything the fascist, pseudo-religious oligarchs are persistent. They will try again repeatedly while they spend outrageous sums of money to get their own minions elected with one goal: to control every sector of elected government in every state from elected school boards on up. Once they control the majority of elected positions, they will be in a position to have their minions appoint the judges that don’t run for elections.

   This has already been going on for decades with the Koch brothers, the Waltons, and all the rest of the psycho-elitists with more money than brain cells between their ears keep on spending to buy America with an end goal to own the world, but for sure, China’s billionaires and Russia’s oligarchs are not going to let them buy China or Russia.

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   • Duane E Swacker says:

     May 25, 2017 at 10:17 am

     That’s a big, 100 font size YEP!

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3. Charles says:

   May 24, 2017 at 9:37 pm

   The children of Texas, have lost.

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   • Duane E Swacker says:

     May 25, 2017 at 10:17 am

     Have lost what?

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     • Charles says:

       May 25, 2017 at 11:26 am

       Parents/children have lost the ability to control more directly their education spending.

       Parents of disabled/handicapped children have lost the ability to direct the education of their children.

       Children in public schools have lost the benefit of having their public schools face the discipline of competition.

       Parents of gifted/talented children have lost the ability to pull their children out of public schools, which (generally) do not have the facilities to provide the educational services to assist the gifted/talented to achieve their fullest potential.

       Parents of children who wish to home-school, have lost the ability/flexibility to have control of their educational spending in their home-school.

       As a person who lived through both Watergate and Vietnam, I have an innate distrust of government. As a person who has lived in a socialist country, I have an innate distrust of socialism. As a person who has seen the benefits of the break-up of monopolies (The phone company, etc) I have an innate distrust of monopolies. The US Post Office would never have come up with Federal Express. Who would ever want to have a package delivered overnight?

       Public schools, are a socialist, government. monopoly.

       Three strikes, and you are OUT!

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     • Duane E Swacker says:

       May 25, 2017 at 2:50 pm

       “Public schools, are a socialist, government. monopoly.”

       In your mind that may be true, but your opinion doesn’t make it true in the wider world of reality. Earth to Chas, calling Earth to Chas.

       “Three strikes, and you are OUT!”

       You gave five reasons. Which two are the balls? Hell, I’m not even playing baseball here, I’m playing Australian Rule Football.

       Government does not equal socialism, Chas. I’m able to respond to you because of a socialist organization, my electric cooperative where the users are the owners and there are no outside shareholders to have to have their greed satisfied before the needs of us customers. We have far fewer and shorter outages than the capitalistic private corporate Ameran. Same thing when the town in which I lived supplied the electricity. A government entity that provided better service at the same price than that vaunted capitalistic corporate entity. Holy cow, take me out back behind the barn and shoot me.

       It’s interesting that both of us have lived through “both Watergate and Viet Nam” and we came through that experience with such different world views.

       “The US Post Office would never have come up with Federal Express.”

       Let me tell you something very similar to what I used to tell my students when they said they weren’t ever going to use Spanish, so why study it: Chas, “we need to go to the boats (here in Missouri the casinos have to be “on water”-a joke in and of itself, but I digress) and I’ll put up the money and we’ll have you pick all the winners since you can foresee the future. We’ll make a fortune!”

       If you don’t mind me asking: When and where and under what circumstances (business, military, student, etc. . . ) did you live under a socialist government?

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     • Lloyd Lofthouse says:

       May 25, 2017 at 3:52 pm

       Does Charles the Trumpist (It doesn’t matter if Charles supports, or not, the Kremlin’s Agent Orange, the malignant narcissist in the White House, the thing with lose lips that could sink U.S. Navy ships. If Charles thinks like a Turmpist and talks like a Trumpist, he is a Trumpist) think that the US Post Office is a socialist organization? When the US Post Office was created it had to survive financially from the postage it sold the send a letter or package. The USPO is not publicly funded through taxes and never has been.

       “The Postal Service can and does compete with the private sector — and it collaborates with it, too. UPS and FedEx pay the Postal Service to deliver hundreds of millions of their ground packages to residences, taking advantage of the Postal Service’s expansive delivery network. The Postal Service pays UPS and FedEx for air transportation, taking advantage of their comprehensive air networks.” …

       and most importantly…

       “1. The Postal Service receives NO tax dollars for operating expenses and relies on the sale of postage, products and services to fund its operations.”

       https://about.usps.com/who-we-are/postal-facts/top-10-things-to-know.htm

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     • Charles says:

       May 25, 2017 at 3:51 pm

       I don’t mind you asking at all. I am proud of the fact that I lived in the People’s Republic of Mozambique for two years. I enjoyed diplomatic immunity, so I did not live under their government, although I did live in their country.

       I was a telecommunications officer for the Diplomatic Service.

       I understand your comment about learning a skill that you might not use. In my first week in college, a teacher came in to give us a “pitch” about how the college was setting up a Portuguese language program. I thought, that there was no way, that I, an engineering student would ever need Portuguese. My first job after college was in Portuguese-speaking Africa.

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     • Charles says:

       May 25, 2017 at 6:30 pm

       @Lloyd: I do not necessarily support all of the policies of the current President. The idea of a border wall is “Looney-tunes”. As a former State department employee, I am appalled at his proposed cuts for the State Department. The policies of any president, are subject to criticism and debate, whether you voted for him or not. We have a president, not a “Fuhrer”.

       I just used the FedEx example, to show the government/monopoly mind-set. I have 12 (twelve) years of federal service. I have worked as a contractor on federal projects for over 15 years. I know how the government thinks.

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     • Duane E Swacker says:

       May 25, 2017 at 7:45 pm

       “I know how the government thinks.”

       That is impossible. The “government” doesn’t think. The people in the government think, act, and do things but it is either sloppy thinking or writing to declare that the “government thinks”.

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     • Lloyd Lofthouse says:

       May 25, 2017 at 11:29 pm

       And that government thinking is all over the spectrum explaining why it is so difficult to get anything done right.

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4. retired teacher says:

   May 24, 2017 at 10:08 pm

   I am happy there are representatives that understand the potential devastating consequences of vouchers to schools that are already under funded.

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5. Mike Sacken says:

   May 24, 2017 at 10:55 pm

   We are dependent upon the stubborn resistance, primarily, of the rural Reps to this $$ grab and exit from public schools.

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