This is one of the best articles I have read about the persistent pathological lies told by Trump and his team and the harm they inflict on our society and even our personal lives.
I am quoting much more of this article than I should. I hope New York magazine doesn’t notice. It just hit home for me, including the parts I didn’t excerpt.
Andrew Sullivan writes:
I want to start with Trump’s lies. It’s now a commonplace that Trump and his underlings tell whoppers. Fact-checkers have never had it so good. But all politicians lie. Bill Clinton could barely go a day without some shading or parsing of the truth. Richard Nixon was famously tricky. But all the traditional political fibbers nonetheless paid some deference to the truth — even as they were dodging it. They acknowledged a shared reality and bowed to it. They acknowledged the need for a common set of facts in order for a liberal democracy to function at all. Trump’s lies are different. They are direct refutations of reality — and their propagation and repetition is about enforcing his power rather than wriggling out of a political conundrum. They are attacks on the very possibility of a reasoned discourse, the kind of bald-faced lies that authoritarians issue as a way to test loyalty and force their subjects into submission. That first press conference when Sean Spicer was sent out to lie and fulminate to the press about the inauguration crowd reminded me of some Soviet apparatchik having his loyalty tested to see if he could repeat in public what he knew to be false. It was comical, but also faintly chilling.
What do I mean by denial of empirical reality? Take one of the most recent. On Wednesday, Senator Richard Blumenthal related the news that Judge Neil Gorsuch, Trump’s nominee for the long-vacant Supreme Court seat, had told him that the president’s unprecedented, personal attacks on federal judges were “disheartening” and “demoralizing.” Within half an hour, this was confirmed by Gorsuch’s White House–appointed spokesman, who was present for the conversation. CNN also reported that Senator Ben Sasse had heard Gorsuch say exactly the same thing, with feeling, as did former senator Kelly Ayotte.
The president nonetheless insisted twice yesterday that Blumenthal had misrepresented his conversation with Gorsuch — first in an early morning tweet and then, once again, yesterday afternoon, in front of the television cameras. To add to the insanity, he also tweeted that in a morning interview, Chris Cuomo had never challenged Blumenthal on his lies about his service in Vietnam — when the tape clearly shows it was the first thing Cuomo brought up.
What are we supposed to do with this? How are we to respond to a president who in the same week declared that the “murder rate in our country is the highest it’s been in 45 to 47 years,” when, of course, despite some recent, troubling spikes in cities, it’s nationally near a low not seen since the late 1960s, and half what it was in 1980. What are we supposed to do when a president says that two people were shot dead in Chicago during President Obama’s farewell address — when this is directly contradicted by the Chicago police? None of this, moreover, is ever corrected. No error is ever admitted. Any lie is usually doubled down by another lie — along with an ad hominem attack.
Here is what we are supposed to do: rebut every single lie. Insist moreover that each lie is retracted — and journalists in press conferences should back up their colleagues with repeated follow-ups if Spicer tries to duck the plain truth. Do not allow them to move on to another question. Interviews with the president himself should not leave a lie alone; the interviewer should press and press and press until the lie is conceded. The press must not be afraid of even calling the president a liar to his face if he persists. This requires no particular courage. I think, in contrast, of those dissidents whose critical insistence on simple truth in plain language kept reality alive in the Kafkaesque world of totalitarianism. As the Polish dissident Adam Michnik once said: “In the life of every honorable man comes a difficult moment … when the simple statement that this is black and that is white requires paying a high price.” The price Michnik paid was years in prison. American journalists cannot risk a little access or a nasty tweet for the same essential civic duty?
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Then there is the obvious question of the president’s mental and psychological health. I know we’re not supposed to bring this up — but it is staring us brutally in the face. I keep asking myself this simple question: If you came across someone in your everyday life who repeatedly said fantastically and demonstrably untrue things, what would you think of him? If you showed up at a neighbor’s, say, and your host showed you his newly painted living room, which was a deep blue, and then insisted repeatedly — manically — that it was a lovely shade of scarlet, what would your reaction be? If he then dragged out a member of his family and insisted she repeat this obvious untruth in front of you, how would you respond? If the next time you dropped by, he was still raving about his gorgeous new red walls, what would you think? Here’s what I’d think: This man is off his rocker. He’s deranged; he’s bizarrely living in an alternative universe; he’s delusional. If he kept this up, at some point you’d excuse yourself and edge slowly out of the room and the house and never return. You’d warn your other neighbors. You’d keep your distance. If you saw him, you’d be polite but keep your distance.
I think this is a fundamental reason why so many of us have been so unsettled, anxious, and near panic these past few months. It is not so much this president’s agenda. That always changes from administration to administration. It is that when the linchpin of an entire country is literally delusional, clinically deceptive, and responds to any attempt to correct the record with rage and vengeance, everyone is always on edge.
There is no anchor any more. At the core of the administration of the most powerful country on earth, there is, instead, madness.
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With someone like this barging into your consciousness every hour of every day, you begin to get a glimpse of what it must be like to live in an autocracy of some kind. Every day in countries unfortunate enough to be ruled by a lone dictator, people are constantly subjected to the Supreme Leader’s presence, in their homes, in their workplaces, as they walk down the street. Big Brother never leaves you alone. His face bears down on you on every flickering screen. He begins to permeate your psyche and soul; he dominates every news cycle and issues pronouncements — each one shocking and destabilizing — round the clock. He delights in constantly provoking and surprising you, so that his monstrous ego can be perennially fed. And because he is also mentally unstable, forever lashing out in manic spasms of pain and anger, you live each day with some measure of trepidation. What will he come out with next? Somehow, he is never in control of himself and yet he is always in control of you.

And what to do about it .
http://www.truthdig.com/report/page2/the_elites_wont_save_us_20170212
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Thanks for the Hedges’ link. It is a well written, scary read, but then these are scary times. I agree that we must fight disruption with more protest and resistance. It would also be helpful if the Democrats would create a ‘wall of resistance’ in congress. They can’t stop, but they can slow down the destruction.
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To reassure you, dear retired friend, that many Americans are feeling the same way and are doing something about it…my RESIST group is up to 84 local members in only 10 days in existence. And nationally, I got a notice today that the over 1,000 new groups have over 54,000 members in 10 days.
So there are many people who have never been activists but are so alarmed at what Bannon/Trump are doing to our nation, they are signing up to really fight for our liberty. I am hopeful…and suggest everyone here joins RESIST. Also the group supporting Bernie, Our Revolution, is building a voice…and of course NPE with over 33K members. This Trump/Republican/fascistic assault to break down our society will take us all being activists, not only marching, but all the aspects of RESISTing.
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“With someone like this barging into your consciousness every hour of every day, you begin to get a glimpse of what it must be like to live in an autocracy of some kind”
I’m hoping people get sick of the drama and neediness of Trump.
I swear to God he’s like a poorly-raised toddler “look at me, me, me!” except he isn’t cute and he won’t get better or grow out of it. There isn’t enough attention in the world for this person. He needs more, more, more. I find it repellent- intrusive.
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Chiara: this is a rather mixed up phrase, but your comments made me think—
Donald Trump is the poster child for the term “Drama Queen.”
Literally. and symbolically.
😎
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the advice to call out every lie, to not let the lying become normal, needs to be shared with every person/journalist/activist we know…. #resist
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All politicians lie to manipulate the electorate. Trump’s lies often have little basis in fact. Obama was a sneakier liar. He often used omission as a tactic. He did not bash public schools himself. He appointed bashers and ignored the bashing. He never bashed labor, and he tried to act like a defender. He was merely posturing as he did nothing to defend labor. He never overtly pushed his TPP agreement. He met quietly and tried to avoid the topic of it to public groups, until after it was announced. Then, he went on the defensive. Lies are part of politicians’ DNA.
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I have a problem with Hedges. Before the election, he was bashing Hillary (and Bernie) and recommended voting for Jill Stein which was a wasted vote and which aided and abetted the election of Trump the Terrible.
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Joe
I have the same problem with Hedges , he was right to bash, wrong to not support as Chomsky did.
Which does not mean that he is wrong now. I used to read almost all of his posts. As I used to watch MSNBC I have a problem with both now. Hedges, CNN and MSNBC brought us here in different manners. As we now see Fox anchors moving over for the ratings of MSNBC. while the progressives were banished. . Kelly
Ann Con job is back on CNN. Their cash register is more important than their integrity . As numerous pundits have stated, live interviews have to be stopped so as to give fact checkers a chance .
The early days of TV journalism (pre cable news ) rarely included live takes. Time to return to real journalism which lets the reporter deliver the story after it is vetted for truth. .
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YES: I’ve been waiting for the apology and public retraction mode which has yet to come when these blatant lies are pushed out into the world of media. What a great sketch on SNL last week as the actor playing journalist tells “Kellyanne” that she cannot be on his news outlet because SHE LIES.
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It’s really all a ruse. Mark my words. Trump is a red herring and Mike Pence is the intended President. Trump loves having his ego stroked (and he’s probably being paid very well for his performance). Once the administration is in place, Trump will make his impeachable moment and say” adios amigos”. Pence with Bannon are calling all the shots as Trump is too stupid to run the country. We will be rid of Trump soon enough, but what’s in store is even scarier than Trump with access to the big red button! There is a reason Trump hasn’t divested from his businesses….because he has every intention of going back to running them on his own.
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If you read Joel’s link above, that is what they contend, a Christian right wing coup along with corporations that will join in the plunder.
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The Hedges Link calls for massive protest in the streets lets put millions in the streets on February 25 as Sanders among others are calling for. . No need to go to Washington .But I still have my DC metro card .
I would like to make the Trump towers non accessible here in NY as well as Fake News Network ,I mean Fox news. No that’s not right ,I mean Rat News Network in every major city in the country a fifty state strategy of resistance. That terrifies Republicans and Reubiccrats Or Republic-rats.the more proper description for neo liberals.
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I know it’s christian ultra right wing. Just look up the Quiverfull movement. That is what it’s all about. Wonder why the Josh Duggar indiscretions (of the famous 18/19 counting clan) were such a a big deal? He was a quiverfull “golden boy” placed in DC politics for a reason. He shamed the movement….or some DC pol was trying to shame the movement? We are headed back to the 1950’s if this keeps up and people don’t wake up and take notice. All of this other political upheaval is just to distract from what is really going on in the greater scheme of things. Every single cabinet position has someone that is ultra right, ultra christian. We are in for a civil war with an army of Christ lovers trying to save us from our sins. Our people in DC better stop drinking of the sacred communal wine and get with the program before it’s too late! It’s probably already too late on the education front. That will all be dismantled soon enough….don’t need no damn gov’t schools indoctrinating kids into believing in democracy and freedom….they need to go to religious school or be home schooled with the Bible as a textbook.
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Lisa B
Whether he stays or goes is irrelevant but you are right about the red
herring. . It is policy that counts, we will see most of the issues that appealed to his base slowly get walked back. While he keeps pushing out one outrageous lie after the next. While our heads are spinning, trying to keep up with the Chucky doll, things like his Supreme court pick will almost seem normal. As we are busy chasing the absurd. His much need infrastructure plan loaded with poison pills.like repeal of Davis Bacon and a National Right to Work law added on to it will pass with just enough Democratic votes . The opposition to voucher schemes for Public School dollars will be smothered by the appointment of Joe Arpaio, to run a massive concentration camp, minus the ovens ,the sun will be enough, in the south west desert . He will eviscerate the tax code leaving the entire burden on the much more impoverished working classes. The Democrats will again participate .
We see in News interviews the new mimes being peddled with Jim Web a Republic-rat if there ever was one asking what does the Democratic Party stand for? While former Gov. Pat McCrory a certifiable member of the Confederacy says that the base of the Democratic party and Warren are dragging the party to far to the left. . Too far to the left for who, those that would bring back slavery and debt peonage. They lost this election because they were too close to the slave masters, not because they promised to put them in shackles. That is what the people thought “hope and change” meant. They even gave that very nice family 8 years to do it, before they voted for the Swamp Thing.
The Democrats will heed the advice of the those well meaning Republicans pretending that Trump out spent Hillary and that they must have those corporate donors to compete . Truth be told they need those donors to line their pockets while in office and once they leave . Warren, Sanders and the progressives who represent the hopes and aspirations of the American people will be marginalized.
The Democrats will proudly stand up and say we closed the camps and that wont happen again.
https://youtu.be/MszPKHuxhyU
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We have a tsunami of bold in your face lies. It’s as if someone is spitting in your face while constantly denying that they are spitting in your face. It’s Orwellian and Kafkaesque to the nth degree. As if the lies are not bad enough, we have the sheer incompetence, ignorance, inefficiency and corruption of the Trump administration.
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One word: PSYCHO LIAR.
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Those are two words. But one good sentiment! 😉
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The house of cards is crumbling. Flynn is gone. Who next?
And my local RESIST group is now up to 98….am in shock as to how to direct this group of very angry citizens who want to make a rapid strong impact and Dump Trump.
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Thanks! I’m on a personal campaign to rename a category for the “little ‘d’”, i refuse to market his name. We have many facts-checkers but they are too nice, they need to name it for what it is, bullshit. It’s not just lies, it’s locker room talk, it’s detestable, it’s the kind of drunken BS i would expect from a twenty-year old male who has been dumped because he’s an ass. It’s the kind of deranged few that only Faux news can produce, and bloggers sitting in their mother’s basement…don’t blame the Mom! So call it what it is, name it, own it…highest in 47 years, 3-4 million, 3-5 whatever million illegal voters, use loads, bad dudes streaming over our borders, Muslim ban…it’s all bullshit! or horse shit, or whatever. The comic strip Non Sequitur had it right today, on a walking path post with the little trash bags, “Pick up your dogs alternate facts.” Ryan Collay Education by Design 541-343-2399 ryan@createug.com
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Try “F—-Face Von Clownstick” Or “Donnie LittleHands “
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Joel, you just made my day.
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Spit back when ever you can . Time to call your congressman again
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I have turned all this over in my mind so many times. The situation we are in reminds me of The Emperor’s New Clothes. I’m just waiting for the little boy to holler “He’s naked!” I guess that would be fake news.
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Good one..Yes All politicians lie, but Sullivan nails :
Andrew Sullivan: The Madness of King Donald http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/andrew-sullivan-the-madness-of-king-donald.html
all the traditional political fibbers nonetheless paid some deference to the truth — even as they were dodging it. They acknowledged a shared reality and bowed to it. They acknowledged the need for a common set of facts in order for a liberal democracy to function at all. Trump’s lies are different. They are direct refutations of reality — and their propagation and repetition is about enforcing his power rather than wriggling out of a political conundrum. They are attacks on the very possibility of a reasoned discourse, the kind of bald-faced lies that authoritarians issue as a way to test loyalty and force their subjects into submission.
And below, he says what Keith Oberman says so forcefully: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jxd61lQJyPU&t=9s
Sullivan agrees and says:
“Here is what we are supposed to do: rebut every single lie. Insist moreover that each lie is retracted — and journalists in press conferences should back up their colleagues with repeated follow-ups if Spicer tries to duck the plain truth. Do not allow them to move on to another question. Interviews with the president himself should not leave a lie alone; the interviewer should press and press and press until the lie is conceded. The press must not be afraid of even calling the president a liar to his face if he persists. This requires no particular courage. I think, in contrast, of those dissidents whose critical insistence on simple truth in plain language kept reality alive in the Kafkaesque world of totalitarianism. As the Polish dissident Adam Michnik once said: “In the life of every honorable man comes a difficult moment … when the simple statement that this is black and that is white requires paying a high price.” The price Michnik paid was years in prison. American journalists cannot risk a little access or a nasty tweet for the same essential civic duty?”
and FYI Franz Kafka is a cousin of my great grandfather.LOL
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“With someone like this barging into your consciousness every hour of every day, you begin to get a glimpse of what it must be like to live in an autocracy of some kind. Every day in countries unfortunate enough to be ruled by a lone dictator, people are constantly subjected to the Supreme Leader’s presence, in their homes, in their workplaces, as they walk down the street. Big Brother never leaves you alone. His face bears down on you on every flickering screen. He begins to permeate your psyche and soul; he dominates every news cycle and issues pronouncements — each one shocking and destabilizing — round the clock. He delights in constantly provoking and surprising you, so that his monstrous ego can be perennially fed. And because he is also mentally unstable, forever lashing out in manic spasms of pain and anger, you live each day with some measure of trepidation. What will he come out with next? Somehow, he is never in control of himself and yet he is always in control of you.”
And this is exactly how I feel, every day since Trump has been sworn in.
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