Our reader Jack Covey watched the Boston Globe debate about Question 2 closely and reports here, with links. Question 2 seeks to add a dozen charter schools every year without end. The state board already demonstrated in Brockton that it is willing to impose a charter school even if the community opposes it. The “choice” is made by the state board, not by parents.
Charter critics complained that charter boards have few if any parents of the children or members of the local community on them. The charter advocate explained that it’s a very good thing to have school boRds run by financiers because democracy is the problem. Charters can simply close if they don’t produce test scores. Of course, we know that’s not true. There are thousands of charter schools that have lower scores than the neighborhood public schools, and the charters are not closed. As many readers on this blog have noted, scores are not the only or best way to measure the value of community public schools. Closing public schools doesn’t help them, and a policy of charter churn doesn’t help children or communities.
What the charter advocates seem to say is that affluent communities can have democracy, but poor communities are not ready for self-governance. I think that’s called colonialism.
How embarrassing for Massachusetts that the “reformers” there rely on the Waltons and Wall Street to extinguish democracy in black communities.
Jack Covey writes:
The Boston Globe covered the debate:
At one point, the Female Moderator cites how,
with rare exceptions almost none of the Board
Members for charter schools are parents, or
live in the community. Instead, they are
corporate and financial executives who are
not elected by onyone. The charters are in
low income communities, and everyone on
their boards of directors are businesspeople
from upscale communities. Therefore, there’s
no mechanism by which thisparents or taxpaying
citizens in the communities in which these
charters are locatedcan execute any kind of
decision-making power, or that those charter
boards can be held accountable.
The response from Charter Lady Marty Walz is
basically.
“So what?”
… or that such a “local control” democratic system —
via democratically elected school boards — sucks
and should be done away with anyway.
BOSTON GLOBE:
“It is local control that got us into this situation that we’re in, where tens of thousands of children are being left behind by their local district schools,” said Marty Walz, a former Democratic state representative, fending off a question about the large number of corporate and financial executives who sit on the boards of Massachusetts charter schools.
MARTY WALZ:
“The reason charter schools exist is because local school districts have wholly failed to educate far too many children in this state,”
Walz said at the debate, which featured an audience of partisans hissing and clapping at various points.
Walz then says that the accountability mechanism — the only one needed, she claims — is that if the charter schools fail to perform, they can be closed. That’s ultimate accountability, she argues.
That’s like recommending the Death Penalty — going only to that — rather than fixing the schools while the schools are alive.
I guess the response to that is …
“How about parents and taxpaying citizens being able to hold charter governance accountable WHILE THOSE CHARTER SCHOOLS ARE STILL IN OPERATION… before the “ultimate accountability” of closing those schools occur?
As every critic from John Oliver …
to (yesterday) Esquire’s Charles P. Pierce …
http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/news/a48531/california-charter-schools/
… is complaining about. The scenario that Charter Lady Walz is defending and promoting creates a scenario for major corruption and egregious mis-management … and discovery and correction of such malfeasance can only happen IF— and it’s a big IF — the charter industry operates with some transparency in regards to the tax money is is spending, which they, as a rule, most certainly DO NOT. Indeed, it’s a big IF because those same charter folks fight tooth-and-nail any attempts to audit their books, or their admissions and expulsions policies, etc.
Eva at Success Academy has sued multiple times to prevent any examination of her organization.
The whole controversy regarding funding S.A.’s Pre-K is about this.
KIPP got Arne Duncan’s Ed. department’s okay to hide all this information from the public
Laura Chapman: Who Allowed KIPP to Hide Data?
The Center for Media and Democracy’s PR Watch reported that the KIPP charter chain received permission from Arne Duncan and U.S. Dept. of Education one that can only be discovered and corrected AFTER these outrages occur.
Here’s that part from the debate:
(34:30 – )
(34:30 – )
FEMALE MODERATOR: “Representative Walz, for some who oppose Question 2, one of the issues that it comes down to is this, and I’m going to paraphrase Carol Burris, she’s a former New York high school, and she says:
CAROL BURRIS:
” ‘The democratic governance of our public schools is a American tradition worth saving.’
” … and then the Annenberg institute for school reform at Brown University earlier this year released a study, and they analyzed EVERY board for EVERY charter school in the state of Massachusetts. and they found that ..
“31% of trustees (school board members) statewide are affiliated with the financial services or corporate sector. Only 14% were parents.
“60% of the charter boards had NO parent representation on their boards WHATSOEVER.
“Those that DID were largely confined to charter schools that served MOSTLY WHITE students.
“Here’s an example: City on a Hill (Charter) Schools in Roxbury — again, this is according to the Annenberg Institute Report — has schools in Roxbury and New Bedford, (has a) 14-member board, trustees for all three of those schools.
“ONLY ONE member of the board lives in New Bedford. Three live in Boston, but NONE in Roxgury. The rest live in (upscale communities) Brookline, Cambridge, Cohasset, and Hingham.
“So they (at Annenberg) ask:
” ‘How can those charter schools be considered locally controlled and locally accountable?’ ”
Charter Lady Walz responds by claiming — and winning applause from the charter folks stacked in the audience — that local control through school boards has “wholly failed’ to produce quality schools and educate children, and need to be wiped out. Those in the audience are cheering the end of democracy? Really?
Wait. Isn’t Massachusetts the highest achieving state in the U.S.? Really? She says that democratically-governed schools with elected school boards in Massachusetts have “wholly failed” students? Really?
At another point in the debate, Charter Lady claims their group is about improving all types of schools, but here she is recommending replacing all of them with privately-managed charter schools. So which is it?
The Moderator interrupts by insisting that Charter Lady answer the question about accountability, and Charter Lady brings up the only method needed — the Death Penalty AND THAT’S IT…. but no accountability while those schools are actually open. And we need to watch John Oliver again to find out how well that works out:
Watch the whole debate here:

And the trains run better too.
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The concept of autonomy and local rule should over ride any siren song of reform. Either we believe people have the right to govern themselves, no matter how badly we may think they are doing, or they do not. How anyone can support the erosion of democaratic ideals is beyond me. We flourish by the open exchange of ideas and the right to govern ourselves. Improvement of schools comes from improvement of the community. People have the right to govern themselves and not be dictated to by the disinterested oligarchs waiting to exploit them and leave. The reformers are like vultures, they did not care about the schools when they were vibrant and alive, they just want the carcass now. Vulture capitalists is the perfect term for them.
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Reblogged this on Politicians Are Poody Heads and commented:
So……..democracy is bad, local control of schools is bad, and private (often for-profit) management of charter schools is good?
Why don’t the charter school and privatization advocates use some of the billionaire money that is being shoveled into starting charters and closing public schools into, you know, improving and failing public schools, and even more importantly, doing something substantial to eliminate poverty in this country, supporting the poverty-stricken neighborhoods, supporting the families in those neighborhoods? That would do even more good.
And, BTW, whatever happened to the concept of “taxation without representation”? The charters (and in some areas, vouchers for private and parochial schools) are being paid with taxpayer money, but are not accountable in any way to those taxpayers.
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Zorba,
Thanks for reblogging this. And love the name of your blog… Perfect,
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As if the rightward tilt to plutocratic totalitarianism has worked for everyone.
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Taking away local control is the key to disempowering the local community. In the case of corporate boards, this is a modern day form of Jim Crow disenfranchisement of African American citizens similar to voter suppression. All citizens should be concerned as this represents a disturbing trend of collusion between government and corporations. We have seen teachers and unions systematically neutralized and marginalized. Destruction of democracy is a goal of the oligarchs and corporations. This is another reasons to vote against such a dangerous authoritarian figure as Donald Trump. He is a loose canon of greed, unpredictability, narcissism and deep rooted questionable conflicts of interest.
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Jack,
Here’s a local view from Massachusetts arguing, quite sensibly, that an excessive preoccupation with “local control” of schools in our state can create major problems.
http://www.thecrimson.com/article/2014/9/3/public-education-local-control/
If you think that accountability in respect to MA charter schools begins and ends with school closures, I would encourage you to examine all the materials here carefully: http://www.doe.mass.edu/charter/acct.html
While Councillor Jackson performed effectively in the debate on behalf of charter school opponents, he made a variety of statements that were less than convincing. As just one example, after Ms. Walz spoke about attrition data for the full set all charter and traditional schools, he produced an anecdote pertaining to the first class of Boston Preparatory school that in its first year had a startlingly high amount of attrition… This was back in 2004-2005… Unmentioned was the fact that the school, now fully populated, now has an attrition rate far lower than traditional public schools in the same city. I’d be glad to provide more examples, but fear exhausting Dr. Ravitch’s patience.
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Stephen, it is not relevant to compare Boston’s limited number of charters to the next 60 or 120 charters that don’t yet exist. We know from what we see across the country that the charter idea is easily corrupted because charters get public money without public supervision.
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“Stephen, it is not relevant to compare Boston’s limited number of charters to the next 60 or 120 charters that don’t yet exist. We know from what we see across the country that the charter idea is easily corrupted because charters get public money without public supervision.”
It’s helpful to keep in mind that the ballot question would allow a maximum of 12 charter schools to either start OR expand each year. Assume that’s 50/50, and permits to start or expand are issued at the maximum allowable rate (which has not previously been the case). That’d be 120 new schools in twenty years. And best I know there are roughly 1750 traditional public schools in the state.
You intimate an excellent question… at what point in that gradual expansion would new charter schools in this area peak and plateau in respect to delivering a quality education? Particularly given the extraordinarily high concentration of colleges and universities in this area, I don’t get the sense that we are close to full saturation.
When thinking of “public supervision” and increasingly local control along lines such as these:
(a) Federal control
(b) State control via a board appointed in a reasonable process with the elected governor having a principal role.
(c) Local control via a well-known mayor who is provided authority and accepts responsibility
(d) Local control via a school board of individuals who are not well-known to the electorate selected in low-turnout elections that are potentially heavily swayed by union or private corporate interests
(e) Parental control exercised via their capacity to choose among well-regulated, not-for-profit public options.
I realize there are those here who would intensively favor (d) relative to (b) plus (e).
But I have yet to see a sensible, persuasive rationale for that, consistent with democratic ideals. Does one exist somewhere?
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Stephen Ronan, the Harvard Crimson article you link raises the general question of whether equal access to a good education is possible when public schools are funded by property taxes. It’s a good and complex question, but the Crimson clouds the issue by equating funding via property taxes with local control.
Redistributing some taxes to poor areas has potential. States like mine (NJ) have experimented with this for 30 yrs. Results have been mixed, but difficulties might be traceable to lack of local control– and also to districts being so large that the resulting concentration of $/ power is difficult to control period. Thus we see Newark being scooped up by the state on the pretext that the 10-yr Abbott experiment was failing– more corruption/less control (how else to explain crumbling neglected city school facilities after 20 yrs of state control?) And now NJ DOEd hands the huge $ pot to the ‘free market’ (in exchange for unlimited campaign contributions & TeaParty brownie points for DC-bound govr.
While MA charter law looks good compared to Ohio or Fla, it doesn’t provide for local district control at all. I don’t think it flies to throw out community voice because ‘where has that gotten us?’ nor does it add to constructive discussion to paint local control as “a school board of individuals who are not well-known to the electorate selected in low-turnout elections that are potentially heavily swayed by union or private corporate interests.’ Decisions made at the state level to visit charters willy-nilly on communities whether they want them or not are even more heavily swayed by large-$ interests.
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So we’re back to the zip codes thing again? Hate to break it to you Stephen, but I live near a major city where parents have an endless array of choices. Detroit. It’s a disaster. Charters appear, soak up money, often vanish after they’ve figured out their financial feasibility and then recruit (yes, recruit) higher achieving students to pad test score stats.
There are suburban districts that have open enrollment policies. Anyone can attend until the school reaches capacity. But they are rarely seen as an option for parents in the city.
We all know the answer is that the funding has to be there to maintain infrastructure and attract / retain better teachers. That’s the issue. Charters are no panacea. They’re good for a tiny portion of the population. They’re very good at sifting through their student bodies to keep the desirables (your singular example of Boston Preparatory suits the usual charter strategy of look at this one school but forget about those other eight schools).
Charters are simply the cheap choice. No better. No worse. Uneven in quality. Available for financial profit. Non-union teachers who leave in a heartbeat. And a reason why the teacher shortage is here. So, yeah, tout charters for the small percentage of kids it actually serves instead of the high percentage that it fails while destabilizing communities.
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People in Massachusetts are finding out what people in other states run by ed reformers already know- the entire education debate is hijacked by charter promoters
It’s not an accident all these people talk about is charter schools. They do nothing for public schools.
Ten years from now they’ll wonder how it happened that existing public schools were utterly abandoned by lawmakers but by then it’s too late.
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Sadly, people are only just beginning to wonder exactly that NOW in Colorado. It won’t take ten years….
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Today as everyday in Ohio, the only time ed reformers mention public schools is when the test scores come out.
They’ll deliver some stern lectures and then get back to work opening new charter schools.
We hear from these people twice a year-once when they’re haranguing us to take the tests and then again when the scores come out.
It’s delightful, really. Such a joy-filled and “innovative” movement!
I feel like I could produce my kid for test days and no one at the state level in ed reform would care if he showed up other than that. Thank God this contagious illness hasn’t spread to the local level yet.
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I think of it a a combination of Taxation without Representation and the Quartering Act. In the 1700s soldiers were forcefully placed in people’s homes and families scraping by themselves were orders to house and feed the scary strangers. In the 21st century it’s charter schools instead of redcoats. Seems just as worthy of a big tea toss to me.
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Mary,
Wouldn’t it be great to throw the Tea Party into Boston Harbor?
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As my local public schools continue to vigorously adopt many of the charter-like policies, regardless of our elected school committee, I am quickly becoming disillusioned with them. I was, for many years, a strong believer in our community public schools. That is fading fast lately. I wish I had more options for my kids.
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I recommend that people watch the debate
from the other night about Question 2
I’ve been watching it and focusing on how
the charter folks defend all the outside money
pushing Question 2.
Here’s the link:
I guess, from here on out, the following
will be charter promoters’ talking point for
countering the criticism about all of the
out-of-state money backing Question 2.
“Instead of talking about THAT,
we should be focusing on KIDS!”
I’m guessing that this was focus-group-tested, or
whatever.
Here’s that quote from the woman I’m calling
Charter Lady Marty Walz (like SNL’s Church Lady):
( 38:07 – 38:30 )
( 38:07 – 38:30 )
CHARTER LADY: “I would also note that
if we want to get into sources of money,
the ‘Vote NO’ campaign is also being funded
by out-of-state money as well, so I’m not really sure
this is where the debate should be happening. I think
the debate should really be about who’s doing the best
job educating children, as opposed to the adult concerns
about ‘Who’s donating to the campaign?’ I think we
should be ABOUT KIDS., NOT the ADULTS.”
(HUGE APPLAUSE)
The FEMALE MODERATOR ain’t having that, however.
A couple minutes later, when she gets a chance, she
lets loose at Charter Lady. In the post Citizens-United
era where all kinds of dark money, untraceable money
given by money-motivated billionaires and millionaires
whose goals are diametrically opposed to what the
actual citizen and adults.
The FEMALE MODERATOR cannot believe that
CHARTER LADY — in an era where so much
dark money pours into races — can basically
just blow off questions about tens of millions of
dollars — much of it untraceable — is coming
into Massachusetts to privatize the schools via
the expansion of charter schools… through the
passage of Question 2.
(40:44 – )
(40:44 – )
FEMALE MODERATOR: “I do want to ask you a
follow-up. First of all, you said that we shouldn’t
be worried about ‘the adult concerns’ about ‘where
money is coming from,’ in terms of the funding on
either side of this ballot question.
— (emphatic, loud tone)
“Did you REALLY mean THAT? I mean we have
an entire electoral system that people are VERY critical
of, that money — whether it be large unions, or large …
people call it ‘dark money’ that’s coming … it DOES
have a profound influence on our democracy, and
adults SHOULD be worried about that.”
(The Charter Lady then responds.
Once again, THE FIRST THING out of Charter Lady’s
mouth is that same “focus on the kids instead” talking
point. This quote is what immediately follows from
the above comment from the Female Moderator.)
CHARTER LADY: “What I was getting at.
is that in this setting today, one of the things is that
what gets left behind are THE CHILDREN. So
often we end up talking about these things (adult-centered
money questions).”
She then suggests that anyone interested just check
the websites with donations… but never responds to the
question. Also, those websites do not trace to the
actual sources of many of those donations.
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Jack,
Love the “Charter Lady Walz”moniker! Think it may stick.
The female moderator’s name is Meghna Chakrabarti, of WBUR radio, one of Boston’s two public radio stations.
Looks like DFER Massachusetts is bringing in the big guns – the Dunkster will be in Boston on October 26, just ahead of the vote on Question 2 to add interminable numbers of charters.
http://www.dfermass.org/2016_education_party?utm_campaign=915_ed_std1&utm_medium=email&utm_source=dfermass
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DFER is bringing in Arne Duncan to promote charters in Mass? Shocking. Or not.
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Walz contradicts herself.
At one point, Charter Lady Walz responds to the question about untold millions of out-of-state billionaires’ dark money flooding into the state by saying,
“Well, the ‘Vote NO on Question 2’ people get out-of-state money, too.”
Two responses:
1) as Mercedes pointed the out-of-state money for “YES on Question 2” outnumbers the “NO on Question 2” money 20-to-1, or more … so that’s really not a valid point;
2) The premise to that response of hers is that, “Yeah, it’s bad, but the other side’s doing it, too.” As a Catholic boy, I know that comparison to or pointing to another’s sin is never a defense for sin.
It’s not like she said, “Yes, but there’s nothing wrong with out-of-state money. The other side’s getting out-of-state money, too, and you won’t hear us criticize this, because again, there’s nothing wrong with that.”
At another point in the debate, she speaks glowingly of the out-of-state money flooding in.
“We’re delighted when people want to contribute to, and support our work.” or something like that.
So which is it? Out-of-state money is a bad, improper thing? Or is it a good, proper thing?
Also, she says that instead of talking about outside money, we need to “focus on the kids, not the adults (and which adults are donating how much.)
Focusing on the outside “dark money” -IS- focusing on the kids. It’s calling attention to …
— WHO those people are donating?
— WHAT are their motives?
— WHAT’s their ultimate goal?
These are ruthless capitalists who, prior to NCLB in 2001, NEVER GAVE A DAMN ABOUT THE EDUCATION OF POOR AND/OR MINORITY CHILDREN.
Now, all of the sudden, we’re supposed to believe that these same ruthless corporate types are pouring money into the Question 2 campaign BECAUSE THEY CARE SO MUCH ABOUT THE EDUCATION OF POOR AND/OR MINORITY CHILDREN ???!!!
These are the kind of people who don’t pour in millions upon millions of dollars into something unless there’s going to be a return on that.
Can any voter in Massachusetts with half-a-brain think otherwise?
Do you think that the fact that these same plutocrats own — in whole or in part — charter school chains, chains, mind you, that will benefit from charter school expansion in Massaschusetts (and elsewhere if it spreads) … does Charter Lady Walz and other Question 2 proponents actually expect Massachusetts voters to think THAT THAT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THEIR SUPPORT.
Some of them also own on-line learning and digital learning companies that will benefit from Question 2 passing, when after it passes, those same charter school chains hire them for contracts worth hundreds of millions of dollars.
Does Charter Lady Walz actually think that THIS HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH WHY THESE OUT-OF-STATE PLUTOCRATS ARE KICKING IN MILLIONS UPON MILLIONS OF DOLLARS TO PASS QUESTION 2?
In short, stopping the privatization industry from raping and pillaging our public school system to enrich themselves, and replacing our system with a horrible privatized system … well, that IS focusing on the kids.
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Appreciate all your hard investigative work, Jack. Could you kindly provide more detail on this: “these same plutocrats own — in whole or in part — charter school chains, chains mind you, that will benefit from charter school expansion in Massaschusetts” and
“Some of them also own on-line learning and digital learning companies that will benefit from Question 2 passing.”
To the extent that you’ve been able to identify them, would you kindly name the plutocrats who are major funders of the campaign, and the companies they own that we can expect to see benefiting greatly in the unlikely event that our Q2 measure is passed by the voters?
Like you, I’m very wary of big money coming in to influence ballot question votes and other elections and particularly dark money. If I had my druthers, I’d require all ballot question signatures to be gathered by unpaid volunteers.
So far, though, I don’t see any imbalance tilting the field in the direction you suppose in regard to self-interested contributions coming into the campaign.
There very well may be self-interested money coming in to expand charter schools. But at first glance I see a bunch of individuals like Michael Bloomberg contributing big bucks that seem to me most plausibly motivated by a desire, misguided or not, to be helpful to children’s education. And I see bucks poured in by the Walton Family Foundation… which is also investing heavily in efforts to “improve ocean health and preserve coastal livelihoods”, “restore riparian habitat and water flows”. How do you convince me that’s all just an expression of greed?
In respect to the 6+ million dollars raised from, by, and for, the teachers union interests to halt charter schools, would you argue that that’s largely or primarily motivated by altruistic concerns? But they’re having difficulty persuading either Warren Buffett and his ilk on the one hand, or the $27.00 at a time donors on the other that the cause is worthwhile?
Why do you think so many of their efforts to persuade voters need to rely so very much on outreach materials, or statements by their advocates, that are inapposite, misleading, poorly sourced…)? Did you happen to notice that reflected in the debate? With all due respect, is that perhaps part of the reason you think it’s best to keep the focus mainly on the $, rather than on the efficacy of the Massachusetts charter schools, as Ms. Walz may have preferred?
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Stephen,
Your naïveté takes my breath away.
You think that Wall Street is pouring millions into the campaign for charters because the hedge fund managers are thinking as philanthropists? You think the Waltons are motivated by idealism?
Please.
Please read Mercedes Schneider’s new book “School Choice: The End of Public Education?”
The Waltons put $200 million a year into charters. They subsidize most if not all of the charter advocacy groups. They put personal money into political campaigns for charters across the nation: from Washington State to Georgia to DC to Mass.
Is it that the Waltons love children so much that they want to create shiny new charters to replace their terrible public schools? Foolish man. The Waltons are worth about $130 Billion dollars. They have one million employees. If they care about the kids so much and want to lift them out of poverty, the Waltons would pay their employees $15 an hour. Many Walton employees are paid so little they need food stamps. We the taxpayers are subsidizing the Waltons.
The Waltons claim credit for creating 25% of all charters (they also support vouchers). They are so filthy rich that they aren’t doing it for profit. They are doing it to rid the nation of teachers’ unions. Period. Charters come and go. As the first CREDO report found, only one 17% are better than public schools. The rest are no better or worse.
Why do you want to destabilize communities and destroy public education?
Why do you think community public schools should be controlled by hedge fund managers, not by elected school boards?
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I have attended a series of meetings primarily populated by present and past teachers union members opposed to our Q2 that would lift the charter cap, and also one meeting of Q2 supporters. These all seemed to me to be meetings where participants felt free to vent their views thoroughly and honestly. I saw zero evidence of anyone at any of these meetings being primarily motivated by self-interest. Those supporting and opposed to Q2 both seemed primarily motivated by their perceptions of what’s best for child education.
There was somewhat more overt intensity, frustration, anger, and contemptuous dismissal of the opposition among one side than the other. Perhaps more on-the-ground political organizing experience and expertise on that same side also. And to a startling degree an inclination to be persuaded by brilliantly effective arguments against Massachusetts charter schools like those found here, without systematically researching the validity of the data and conclusions: http://massteacher.org/news/archive/2009/headlines_2009-09-16.aspx
When I first read that report, I found it persuasive also… sent a link to it to a local group of Democratic party activists encouraging others to read it. But that same week I read additional materials.
Diane: “As the first CREDO report found, only one 17% are better than public schools. The rest are no better or worse.”
And as a considerably more recent CREDO report found, here in Boston, it’s an additional year of “learning” per year. (While, as per a Globe article, the ballet bar and the music room full of xylophones may be hidden from public view lest whiter, wealthier parts of town get too eager to fill limited seats). That’s what you’re passionately trying to put a cap on.
Diane: “Why do you think community public schools should be controlled by hedge fund managers, not by elected school boards?”
Elected school board? We tried that for a while in Boston. Starting in 1789. Voted to disband it in a citywide referendum in 1989 and by vote of the state legislature in 1991. As per a contemporary NYTimes story: “The 13-member committee, the oldest elected school board in the nation, has become infamous for its internal squabbling, frequent racial tension and poor management of the school system.”
The only folks I hear wanting to return to it are union organizers who think an elected school board might be more responsive to _____. Fill in the blank.
Diane, I think your perception that our charter schools here are ultimately controlled by hedge fund managers might have changed if you had joined me in attending a series of meetings involving parents, school administrators, Department of Elementary and Secondary Education (DESE) officals, and the DESE board (which includes parent and teachers union representation) as the possible closure of a charter school was discussed and, ultimately, effectuated earlier this year. A school that kids I know well attended. Closed while it was not measurably under-performing traditional Boston public schools… it was a Level 2 in our 5-Level system. Closed, I think, because it was perceived that other charter schools might do better with the same, strictly limited, number of charter school seats. Whether I agreed with it or not, I perceived it as a careful, thoughtful, open discussion and decision motivated by an attempt to do what’s best for the kids.
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Stephen,
If there is deep popular support for privately managed charter schools, why does Question 2 need the money of out of state billionaires and NYC hedge fund managers? Is democracy in MA dead and in need of outside aid?
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Stephen,
You have the naive idea that every new charter will be fabulous because you have seen good charters in Boston. Maybe, as Chiara earlier wrote, the Boston charters do well because there is a cap. I also know from my earlier research on Boston charters that they do not serve the same demographic as the public schools, which enroll far more ELLs and kids with disabilities than the charters. Remove the kids with the greatest needs, add millions of dollars from business and philanthropy, and the results will be impressive. But not replicable or scale able. It’s clear that you like a kind of apartheid.
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As to their involvement, here’s one from Mercedes Schneider about Carrie Walton-Penner’s “plan to fix public education” (not exactly hands-off, are those Waltons):
Mercedes also wrote one on the attempt to claim equivalency between union spending and out-of-state billionaire spending:
(Excerpts from the latter)
Also noteworthy in this era of the billionaire purchasing of elections:
Thus, there are no out-of-state billionaires providing substantial funds to Save Our Public Schools, nor is Save Our Public Schools primarily funded by any out-of-state organization.
Save Our Public Schools is primarily funded by an in-state teachers union, the Massachusetts Teachers Association (MTA).
According to MTA’s 2013 tax return, it raised $47,669,617 in revenue, $42 million of which was generated by membership dues. (An additional $1 million came from investments, and approximately $3.5 million came from services that NEA offers– i.e., legal, educational.)
None of MTA’s 2013 revenue came from out-of-state billionaire donors, or out-of-state nonprofits (lobbying or otherwise), or out-of-state business execs or hedge funders.
MTA has 110,000 members. At $42 million per year, that means each member pays approximately $382 per year in membership dues.**
So, if the corporate reform set wants to complain about the largest funder of Save Our Public Schools– MTA– it needs to complain about the 110,000 Massachusetts-based members of MTA who are each willing to pay on average $382 annually in order to exert their collective influence.
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So why are the Waltons from 2,000 miles away in Arkansas backing this/
How can the Waltons claim to care about the education of poor kids, when this is what they’re paying those same kids’ parents?
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No, this support of Question 2 is so that, eventually, they’ll replace traditional public schools with schools of their own, where they’ll be paying teachers the same amount — or as close to that amount as they possibly can without parents rioting. And the Walmart family bosses will pocket the rest.
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Diane: “If there is deep popular support for privately managed charter schools, why does Question 2 need the money of out of state billionaires and NYC hedge fund managers?”
There isn’t. Not statewide. Not in rich suburbs. Not in rural areas. Support is concentrated in relatively poor, mostly minority communities. Which is why Q2 will likely lose. Just requires a swift blizzard of misinformation to defeat it. Particularly with the billionaire money seemingly almost all being spent on cotton candy ads with very little traction.
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Stephen,
The misinformation is coming from groups like DFER and “Families for Excellent Schools,” which are a combination of billionaires and hedge funders. If the billionaires wanted poor kids to have excellent schools, they would fight for funding that makes all schools like the ones they send their own children to. Their kids’ schools spend $50,000 a year.
They are claiming in their fraudulent ads that they want to “improve public schools.” That’s not just misinformation, that’s a lie. They want to privatize public funding and take it away from public schools that serve all kids.
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Mercedes Schneider just wrote a piece about the debate, and the Question 2 issues in general:
MERCEDES SCHNEDER:
“Massachusetts’ Question 2: Regarding Marty Walz’s Pro-Charter Reasonings
September 14, 2016
“On September 13, 2016, the Boston Globe reported on a UMass Boston debate concerning Question 2, a ballot issue that Massachusetts voters will face at the polls on November 08, 2016.
“Representing the pro-charter set was former Massachusetts Representative Marty Walz (D- 8th Suffolk District), who is also senior advisor to Democrats for Education Reform in Massachusetts (DFER-MA). (For an informative, brief look at DFER, see this post by Pennsylvania teacher and blogger Peter Greene.)
“In this post, I respond to particulars related to Walz’s pro-charter-expansion stance.
“Walz maintains that ‘local control …got us into this situation,’ and by ‘this situation,’ Walz means, “thousands of students are being left behind by their school districts.”
“So, according to Walz, if Massachusetts rid itself of local control, then those ‘thousands of left-behind students’ would no longer be ‘left behind.’
“Indeed. Without local control, those students might conveniently and completely disappear from any school roster.
“Goodbye ‘left behind’; hello ‘gone’
“If Walz had her way, then there would only be individual, non-elected boards comprised of corporate and financial executives to oversee a school or a network of schools. So, if any students leave a school or network (whether encouraged to do so by that school/network or not), then the school (or network) responsibility ends there.
“Massachusetts would be free to emulate Louisiana’s all-charter Recovery School District (RSD), a ‘portfolio’ district (one where ‘there is no single entity responsible for all children’)– and one where assistant superintendent Dana Peterson publicly admitted that he doesn’t know how many students just disappear from those portfolio-ed, New Orleans schools.
“But let us return to Walz’s sweep against local control of Massachusetts schools (meaning local control in the state as a whole). Given that America finds herself in the throes of the test-centrism worshiped by corporate education reformers, let us consider Massachusetts NAEP results for 2015:
“Overall Performance for Reading
“Massachusetts outperformed all of the other states in grade 4 and tied for grade 8.
“Based on average scale scores, Massachusetts was first in the nation at grade 4. At grade 8, Massachusetts tied for first in the nation with three other states. …
“Students in Massachusetts outperformed students nationally on the NAEP reading tests.
“The average scale score of Massachusetts grade 4 students on the reading assessment was 235, higher than the national average of 221. Eighth-grade Massachusetts students (274) also outscored their counterparts nationwide (264).
“Fifty percent of Massachusetts grade 4 students and 46 percent of grade 8 students scored at or above the Proficient level. These percentages were higher than the comparable percentages of students nationally who scored at or above the Proficient level, 35 percent at grade 4 and 33 percent at grade 8. …
“Overall Performance for Mathematics Massachusetts tied for first with three other states on both the grade 4 and grade 8 mathematics assessments.
“Based on average scale scores, Massachusetts tied for first in the nation at both grades 4 and 8 with three other states. …
“Students in Massachusetts outperformed students nationally on the NAEP mathematics tests.
“The average scale score of Massachusetts grade 4 students on the mathematics assessment was 251, higher than the national average of 240. Eighth-grade Massachusetts students (297) also outscored their counterparts nationwide (281).
“There is much more to the 2015 Massachusetts NAEP report. However, I think it safe to say that blaming local control of schools for any sweeping failure of Massachusetts education is nonsense.
According to the Globe, Walz continues by citing the CREDO study of charter schools, which found via matched “virtual twin” participants that Boston charter schools outperformed the Boston public schools.
“It is important to note that CREDO only matches students who change from traditional public schools (TPS) to charter schools and not the other way around. Therefore, if a student leaves a charter school and returns to a TPS, that student is excluded from the CREDO study.
“It is possible that lower-scoring students leave charter schools and return to TPS. It is also possible that students with behavior problems leave charter schools and return to TPS. It seems that it is easier for students to exit a charter school midyear and enter a TPS than it is for a student to leave a TPS to enroll in a charter school midyear.
“All of the above could artificially boost charter school results.
“Furthermore, CREDO only compares charter students with ‘virtual twins’ from TPSs that send some students to charter schools. Therefore, CREDO results cannot be generalized to TPSs that send no students to charter schools.
“In other words, even CREDO has its limits.
“As far as CREDO results for Boston are concerned, they do make for an impressive read– one which charter proponents such as Walz offer as justification for expanding charters ad infinitum.
“However, such results can only be generalized to Boston schools as they are at the time of the study. In other words, it is a serious jump in logic to assume that expanding the number of Boston charter schools (much less the number of charters statewide) guarantees a positive result because past CREDO studies on a specific set of Boston charter schools yielded a favorable result.
“Nevertheless, regarding any ‘poorly performing’ charters comes the stock corporate reformer response of just closing the “failing” schools and replacing them with ‘higher-performing’ schools.
“School closure is destructive to a community. There is no ‘just’ about it.
“Back to Walz:
“Walz does not like that Boston Public Schools receives funds to offset its losing students to charter schools. Yet if there is to be compulsory education, there must be a system of schools in which students might enroll at any time. There must be a default system, a ‘catch all.’ Otherwise, there will be students without a school to attend, for whatever reason, including the fact that Massachusetts charters are not required to backfill empty seats in all grades– which means the charters are off the hook for adding a single latecomer student to a number of grade level cohorts.
“Unfortunately, the need for a catch-all combined with non-locally-controlled charters tends to create a dual school system– and a dual school system tends to foster segregation.
“As for the out-of-state money flowing into Massachusetts for Question 2, Walz is fine with it, as the Globe reports:
” ‘We’re delighted when anybody wants to step up and support our efforts,’ Walz said. ‘The more help we get educating all our kids in this state — that is all to the good.’
“Regarding Walz’s being ‘delighted’ with out-of-state money ($1.8 million of which came from Alice and Jim Walton)– and even concerning the millions from in-state wealty, here is are a few issues for Massachusetts voters to consider:
“First, DFER is a PAC founded by New York hedge fund managers, and Walz is a senior advisor to DFER-MA. As such, one should expect her to have no problem with wealthy donors (in-state or otherwise) spending to promote the anti-union, pro-charter DFER mission.
“Second, the wealthy who are seeking to influence Massachusetts politics from other states have nothing to lose if what they pay to influence turns out to be detrimental to the Commonwealth. As such, consideration of what the actual motives of those out-of-state funders tossing millions into MA could be should give pause.
“Finally, even the in-state wealthy who are spending hundreds of thousands of dollars promoting Question 2 (for example, the Fidelity Investments crew led by Abigail Johnson and Johnson herself) are hardly likely to be directly affected by the consequences of its passage (i.e., fiscal weakening/destabilization of Massachusetts’ system of public schools; community disruption caused by charter churn; potential fraud and mismanagement introduced by an expanding, under-regulated, decentralized charter sector; increased segregation of students as a byproduct of a dual school system). Massachusetts has a proliferation of private schools available to the moneyed. Then, of course, there are always exclusive schools in other states.
“So, if Massachusetts charter expansion passes and sours, Commonwealthiers are able to dodge it even if they paid handsomely to push it.
“I’ll leave it at that for now.
“Any issues of struggling students in Massachusetts should be addressed. Yet jumping to statewide decentralization via an ever-expanding charter sector as a solution is short-sighted for the reasons noted in this post.
“rose-colored-glasses
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What real researchers would look at in Massachusetts is whether charter quality is a FUNCTION of the cap.
In other words, are charter schools good in Massachusetts because they WEREN’T opened willy-nilly, but instead were carefully planned?
That’s why I think ed researchers are in the tank, politically. This is an ordinary question. If they haven’t asked it there’s something wrong.
Charter schools in Massachusetts might be better BECAUSE of the cap.
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