About a month ago, there were news reports that Russian government hackers broke into the Democratic National Committee’s email server and stole thousands of emails.
The Washington Post reported this security breach on June 14.
Russian government hackers penetrated the computer network of the Democratic National Committee and gained access to the entire database of opposition research on GOP presidential candidate Donald Trump, according to committee officials and security experts who responded to the breach.
The intruders so thoroughly compromised the DNC’s system that they also were able to read all email and chat traffic, said DNC officials and the security experts.
CNN said that the target of the Russian hacking was the opposition research on Donald Trump.
The emails were released this week by Wikileaks.
Gawker reports here that the leaks came from Russia.
The emails showed that the DNC staff favored Clinton–a party stalwart–over Sanders–a newcomer to the party. This is not surprising. Bernie said so many times and he was right.
Why would the Russian government want to leak these emails on the weekend before the Democratic convention?
Now here is a curious coincidence. The Trump campaign weighed in hard on the Republican platform to eliminate any language threatening to arm the Ukrainians against the Russian rebels, contrary to longstanding Republican policy.
The Trump campaign worked behind the scenes last week to make sure the new Republican platform won’t call for giving weapons to Ukraine to fight Russian and rebel forces, contradicting the view of almost all Republican foreign policy leaders in Washington.
Throughout the campaign, Trump has been dismissive of calls for supporting the Ukraine government as it fights an ongoing Russian-led intervention. Trump’s campaign chairman, Paul Manafort, worked as a lobbyist for the Russian-backed former Ukrainian president Viktor Yanukovych for more than a decade.
Still, Republican delegates at last week’s national security committee platform meeting in Cleveland were surprised when the Trump campaign orchestrated a set of events to make sure that the GOP would not pledge to give Ukraine the weapons it has been asking for from the United States.
Inside the meeting, Diana Denman, a platform committee member from Texas who was a Ted Cruz supporter, proposed a platform amendment that would call for maintaining or increasing sanctions against Russia, increasing aid for Ukraine and “providing lethal defensive weapons” to the Ukrainian military.
“Today, the post-Cold War ideal of a ‘Europe whole and free’ is being severely tested by Russia’s ongoing military aggression in Ukraine,” the amendment read. “The Ukrainian people deserve our admiration and support in their struggle.”
Trump staffers in the room, who are not delegates but are there to oversee the process, intervened. By working with pro-Trump delegates, they were able to get the issue tabled while they devised a method to roll back the language.
On the sideline, Denman tried to persuade the Trump staffers not to change the language, but failed. “I was troubled when they put aside my amendment and then watered it down,” Denman told me. “I said, ‘What is your problem with a country that wants to remain free?’ It seems like a simple thing.”
Finally, Trump staffers wrote an amendment to Denman’s amendment that stripped out the platform’s call for “providing lethal defensive weapons” and replaced it with softer language calling for “appropriate assistance.”
That amendment was voted on and passed. When the Republican Party releases its platform Monday, the official Republican party position on arms for Ukraine will be at odds with almost all the party’s national security leaders….
Trump’s view of Russia has always been friendlier than most Republicans. He’s said he would “get along very well” with Vladimir Putin and called it a “great honor” when Putin praised him. Trump has done a lot of business in Russia and has been traveling there since 1987. Last August, he said of Ukraine joining NATO, “I wouldn’t care.” He traveled there in September, and he told Ukrainians their war is “really a problem that affects Europe a lot more than it affects us.”
For Trump, the biggest threat to Europe is not Russia, according to people familiar with his thinking. He believes the United States should focus on helping Europe fight Islamist terrorism and open borders, not confronting Putin. He has called for a reduction of the U.S. commitment to NATO. He simply doesn’t see Russia as a dangerous threat.
Now who would want to sow discord among Democrats as the convention begins?

I don’t really care who leaked them.
What is truly disturbing is what was in the emails, and the contempt and disdain the DNC and HRC show for the democratic process. The primaries were rigged. Just goes to show that HRC has no integrity.
Just confirms what I strongly suspected. For those who donated to the Bernie Sanders campaign, there is a class action lawsuit being filed against the DNC. It’s time we the people stood up to the liars, manipulators, and game riggers and let them know this won’t stand!
http://heavy.com/news/2016/07/how-to-join-dnc-class-action-lawsuit-bernie-sanders-hillary-clinton/
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Nothing to see here folks … Direct your attention to the Russians …. Hillary and the DNC didn’t have any part of this ….. Look at the Russians …. Look at the Republicans.
We are not simpleminded! Sanders supporters should be actively incensed and calling for Hillary’s resignation too. The DNC system is rigged and now there is proof.
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Here is something I don’t understand:
Is the idea that the DNC was completely neutral in 2008 when Hillary was running against Barack Obama? And that’s how Obama was able to still win and would not have if the DNC had been pro-Hillary? And then between 2008 and 2016 the DNC changed their stance from neutral to trying to throw the election to Hillary in 2016?
Call me cynical, but I always assumed both the RNC and DNC had their establishment candidate they wanted to win each election season. But the beauty of a democracy is that even with the party apparatchiks behind one candidate, the people could elect another.
Have we all believed that for the past 10 elections the DNC has been completely neutral? But under Wasserman-Schultz there was an illegal attempt to help one candidate?
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First, it’s not the same DNC as in 2008. DIfferent chairperson, different insiders for the most part, and clearly rather different rules (both official and hidden). So yes, it’s not the same situation as 2008 in a lot of ways, and if it had been like it is now back in 2008, the Clintons would have lost their voices screaming about it. Privately, Hillary may feel she was somewhat betrayed by superdelegates, but she couldn’t claim wholesale cheating in Obama’s favor or against her. She expected to win, didn’t, probably was gob-smacked by how things went down, but no one “cheated” and so it goes.
Second, there’s a HUGE reason that the DNC now is different from the one in 2008, and it’s that HRC lost in 2008. She and her inner circle made damned certain that the chair was someone who would play ball with her and no one else. We may not have email traffic to prove what went down between 2008 and Wasserman-Schultz ascending to the chair of the DNC, but it happened, and all to HRC’s advantage. By design. A puerile black guy may have snatched the crown from “the Chosen One” in 2008, but she’d be damned if she’d let some decrepit Brooklyn/Vermont radical/hippie Jew pull a similar stunt in ’16. And so she was careful to ensure that someone like DW-S became in charge of this primary/nomination season.
As for “huge right wing conspiracies, let me say this: 1) Just because you’re paranoid doesn’t mean they’re out to get you; 2) just because people bad people say that you’re a lying, dishonest, untrustworthy, unprincipled disgrace of a human being doesn’t make you an honest, virtuous, ethical, saint EVER.
Sure, lots of folks on the far right were out to bring down the Clintons by any means necessary. And the Clintons gave their opponents a TON of ammunition to use against them. The problem is that for the GOP to have destroyed WJC in the ’90s or for them to do so to HRC now, they’d have to resurrect Abraham Lincoln and Teddy Roosevelt, and then commit collective suicide. The stuff that the Clintons are truly guilty of cuts just a little bit too close to home for the contemporary Republican Party.
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Where are the critical thinkers?
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Look in the mirror and I think you’ll find one!!!
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You buried the lede Diane. The real story is that the DNC and media are in collusion and it’s a HUGE lie being told to the American people.
Also, Bernie got screwed. Quit putting the Democrat party as your top priority and look at the truth and what’s best for teachers and education.
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Tom,
Given the current situation, what is best for teachers and children and for America and the world is to keep Trump out of the White House. He is the King of Chaos, and he will destroy public education and every international alliance.
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It’s already been destroyed and nothing will change with Hillary.
Don’t fool yourself. You’ll get carefully crafted statements but once she’s in full force: TFA, charters, testing, ESSA, accountability, high standards, ranking, shaming, closing, etc.
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Tom and Linda, don’t fool yourselves.
The idea that there is no difference between Hillary and Trump is what people said when they voted for Ralph Nader. Al Gore and GWBush were the same.
Anyone who can look at how Bush governed and truly believe that Al Gore would have been no different seems to be living in a different reality than I am.
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No matter the source is the DNC disputing the contents of the emails? What are they saying about the not so secret plan to favor Clinton during the primary? Why is @dwsteewts no longer speaking at the convention if this is a trumped up Russian conspiracy?
This is merely deflection when they cannot defend their undemocratic actions and it’s pathetic.
See @wikileaks and #dncleak or #dncleaks for details
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Please translate for me
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Arming Ukraine cannot possibly be a progressive solution to the problem. That’s more of a Third Way, Madeline Albright, warmonger tactic. As with many issues, Clinton stands to the extreme right of both parties. …And the emails about Bernie’s religious beliefs were horrid.
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Arming the Ukraine let me think about that one . Oh I got it .
“We owe it, therefore, to candor, and to the amicable relations existing between the United States and those powers, to declare, that we should consider any attempt on their part to extend their system to any portion of this hemisphere, as dangerous to our peace and safety.”
Is that still part of the curriculum or with all the testing is there no time for critical thinking and history.
Even an idiot gets it right sometimes and on this one Trump has got Clinton by a mile. Putin is acting in what he perceives to be Russia’s national interest’s. The Crimea is a Russian speaking province of Ukraine with the largest Black Sea port of the Russian Navy.
Just compare it to Russian friendly coup taking over Quebec province and the St. Lawrence seaway. No American President would let that stand.
The entire effort to rekindle the cold war is so outrageous that I can barely hold back the profanity. Attempting to move NATO into former Soviet Union nations(Ukraine ,Georgia ) is more dangerous than Trump.
We know that the hackers were Russian Government sponsored how?!!!!!.
That they were Russian is not surprising. Crime elements in Russia have been hacking for years . That they may be seeking to sell their information possibly to the Russian government possibly. That the Russian government put them up to it . Lets see an FBI/NSA report .
I’m still looking for the Torpedoes from those North Vietnamese patrol boats.
The DNC attributing this to Russia is opening up the festering wounds of the FBI investigation. Now its just not hackers it’s hackers working for the Soviet Union “the biggest threat to world peace “!!???
Call me hopelessly optimistic,delusional . I’m still hopping for a few better Emails before the 28th of July . .
As for “Commie Bernie” anybody who would be swayed by that is already voting for Trump. Half the country either wasn’t born or was too young to remember the Cold War. A third of the rest spent 8 years protesting the Vietnam War.
But at the end of the day it is anybody but Trump.
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It really is eye opening to see that it took Russia to shine a light on the corruption and dishonesty going on in our political system. The media was complicit in the corruption, so it’s a good thing Guccifer was there to expose the charade!
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There is no evidence it is Russia yet. Mook keeps saying it over and over to deflect. Evidently he can’t refute the contents of the emails so look over here.
And if it were, why is the DNC system so weak that it can be hacked into?
Search the leaks. It includes top DNC staffers, Donna Brazile, Debbie Washerman Schultz, who has become a major distraction. She will be gone soon. It’s just a matter of time.
They also dissed voters, Bernie supporters, Latinos. We are all sheep to be manipulated and herded.
But, be afraid, be very, very afraid: Trump, Russians..blah blah blah
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No question that the DNC favored Hillary.
But there is also no question that Trump’s people changed the language in the GOP platform to remove any support for Ukrainians against Russian incursion. That is a fact.
At the time the leaks were reported, every newspaper said that the hackers were working for the Russian government.
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So? They say what they say no matter who hacked them. This is not how a primary process under a neutral DNC is to operate. They don’t want any dissension…please please obey, worship and vote for the chosen one.
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Who leaked the emails and why? are a separate issue from the emails themselves, which the DNC has not contested.
If Deep Throat was actually a Russian/Soviet agent, would it matter when it came to assessing whether the Watergate break in was real and whether Nixon was a crook?
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Poet,
Normally the who-dun-it would not matter. In this case, if it was the Russian government, and if Trump’s operatives are reshaping Republican policy to placate the Russians, then it matters very much. We will hear more of this.
I agree with those who call for Debbie Wasserman Schultz’s resignation. The DNC should have been neutral between candidates.
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There is no evidence. CCS creators would be very upset.
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I didn’t say that it does not matter who leaked them.
I indicated that it does not matter for assessing whether they are real and what they mean (any more than it mattered who Deep Throat was in Watergate, since there was plenty of evidence corroborating his story, including White House tapes — and the general public did not even know who Deep Throat was until decades later, at any rate)
It might matter for other reasons who released the emails, but as I indicated, that is actually a separate issue.
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Maybe stick to education.
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Agreed.
And Debbie Wasserman Schultz should just go back to her day job as lobbyist for the loan sharking industry.
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Even education is a loaded issue rife with land mines, disputes and visceral reactions. Education and education policy inevitably leads back to politics and, you should pardon the expression, politicians.
But I do appreciate your sentiments. I am worn out by this campaign season.
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So don’t read the articles that don’t interest you. It’s Diane’s blog, and she can write about whatever she wants to.
If you don’t like it, that’s your problem, not hers. Go find another blog then.
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Zorba — you’re right – it’s Diane’s blog and she can write whatever she wants but when way back she claimed to keep out of things early on (pre primary even, I thiink) she would tiptoe around Hillary’s issues and to many of us appear to be something of a HIllary apologist.
Here again, she’s tiptoeing around the actual emails albeit since she’s stating that avoiding Trump, well, trumps all.
The problem is that this hurts her credibility on all issues.
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Yes, but. . . 1) it’s called “Diane Ravitch’s blog,” so she can write whatever she wants; 2) the subtitle is “A site to discuss better education for all” and of course who leaked these emails is at most peripheral to education; 3) see #1.
I have a dormant blog about mathematics education. Its description makes clear that the focus is both things that are peculiar to the domains of mathematics and its teaching and learning, AND that of the politics that increasingly determines what mathematics is taught to whom and how. That bought me more elbow room in terms of what I felt I could write about without misleading my readers as to what they might find there. Just a thought as to how bloggers can cover themselves in advance if they know that they want to feel okay about straying outside the narrower confines of a particular discipline.
However, I’m a nobody. A lot of people know me in mathematics education; I have carved out a swath of “friends” on Facebook around my interests in math ed and ed politics, as well as my enthusiasm for Bernie Sanders and his political revolution. However, I don’t have a doctorate and have had no university affiliation since maybe the end of 2006, almost a decade ago. So my impact tends to be more narrow than it might otherwise be. No one invites me to speak at big conferences or to come on television to debate my areas of interest and ostensible expertise.
Thus, if I write a piece on my hatred for the Cleveland Cavaliers this past year and post it on my math education blog, people who read me regularly will probably mostly ignore it, some may agree with it, some others may tell me to get stuffed, but I expect that a number of readers will question my judgment for even posting such a piece in the first place. And I would tend to agree with them. I’d be better off and feel less compromised if I just started a different blog, perhaps called “MPG Mouths Off On Other Stuff.” Probably play to a readership of my mom, aunt, and few others, and the former are 89 and 96 respectively. Not a prospect with a glowing future.
Now, finally, I disagree mightily with Diane’s views on this election, but that has no meaningful impact on my beliefs about her as an educational historian or critic of the high-stakes testing and education deform movements. Others are free to draw different conclusions, but expertise in field A doesn’t vanish because of poor analysis of or questionable opinions about issue Z. I don’t discuss politics with my dentist and I love how he takes care of my teeth and gums.
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Zamansky,
I did not take a position during the primaries. I did not slam or praise either Bernie or Hillary.
Now that Hillary is the presumptive nominee, I will enthusiastically support her.
So will Bernie Sanders.
If you think that damages my credibility, I’m sorry.
I think and speak for myself. I am guided by my conscience.
I don’t pander, not even to you.
When you post a hostile comment about me on my blog, you indicate you don’t belong here.
This is my living room. Rude guests are asked to leave.
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Michael
If it’s any consolation, I think your arguments make a great deal of sense.
But I’m nobody too (..and there i go again plagiarizing)
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Geezus, can it get any worse? Oh yeah, president Attila The Hun, orange edition.
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#DNCleak “She’s forced to continue to appeal to young liberals as opposed to pivoting back to center” wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/ema… DNC hates that
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Vindication for Bernie supporters begin marginalized and mocked regarding the rigged election – ie. the lack of ethics of the DNC and Hillary supporters who refused to acknowledge the truth because the fraud favored their candidate – coming to light is the point. Wagging the dog to deflect the content by blaming the Russians is transparent.
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We all knew this at the time, it was so obvious.
And I have sent money to Tim Canova several times because I really, really want him to beat Wasserman Schutlz. I want her out of Congress, not just out of the DNC.
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You can’t insult people who are trying to be a part of the process. If the chair isn’t fair…
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WaPo and the NYT have been pushing official government propaganda about Russia for the last several years, part of the “New Cold War” and its reportage: http://readersupportednews.org/opinion2/277-75/38170-focus-will-nyt-retract-latest-anti-russian-fraud
I wouldn’t trust what either of these government outlets has to say about the leaked DNC emails as far as I can throw a grand piano. The DNC cheated big-time for Hillary and now they’ll do anything to put the focus on everything but what occurred. Sanders was right. We were right. This entire election is a fraud.
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But Michael, you must admit, they were right on the money on Iraqi WMD.
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I just wish someone would leak the emails from the NY Times and Washington Post.
I’d love to read the Jason Blairs, Judith Miller’s, George Wills and Bob Woodwards making jokes about what a bunch of saps the American public are.
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That’s a common thread in the #DNCleaks…different time period, same attitude. We don’t need your opinions, thoughts or questions…just vote and obey.
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Sanders campaign manager: “Debbie Wasserman Schultz should resign” cnn.it/2alQBS5 #CNNSOTU
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Video here: http://www.cnn.com/2016/07/24/politics/bernie-sanders-dnc-email-hack/index.html
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Thanks for the link: Still, Sanders made clear that he’s not using the issue to re-open the Democratic primary after he’s endorsed Clinton.
“The focus, though, that I am going to go forward on right now is to make sure that Donald Trump — perhaps the worst Republican candidate in the history of this country; somebody that by temperament, somebody that by ideology, must not be president of the United States — I am going to do everything I can to defeat him, to elect Hillary Clinton, and to keep focusing, keep focusing, on the real issues facing the American people,” Sanders said.
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Right, Joe. Let’s just be good little lemmings, shall we?
How’s the acknowledgement/apology coming on your willful distortion-by-omission of my view on teacher unions? Funny how leaving out a concluding sentence can utterly twist the meaning of an entire, carefully constructed post to mean something it never meant at all, right, Joe?
Which is just one more reason that your views on this issue are as untrustworthy and meaningless as your comments on bad teachers and our professional responsibility to reflect upon our own practice and that of colleagues for the good of teaching and learning and kids. Any time you want to rise above your lack of honesty would be just fine.
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Yes, I am aware of his comments. I have no faith in the process anymore. We are only #strongertogether if we obey.
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Linda, I am not judging Trump based on what the Democrats say about him. I am judging Trump by his own words, his own actions over the years and especially during this endless vomitous campaign season. He’s appalling beyond words. I’m not obeying anyone except my own observations and interpretations of what is going on. The GOP is riven and divided by unbelievable disputes and so is the Democratic party. Then there are the wild cards like the libertarian candidate, Wikileaks, etc., which will have some sort of effect (I used it correctly) on this crazy election. Just imagine, in most of the European democracies, the campaign season is about 6 weeks long and there are more than 2 parties and the Greens have clout beyond our wildest dreams in the US.
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Mike, you are nothing but an arrogant internet bully. I’m done with you. I don’t have to apologize for anything least of all to you.
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Joe,
Get back on message #strongertogether #obeyhillary
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Joe, I’m a lot more than an “arrogant Internet bully” or you wouldn’t have made it a point to attack me and distort and misrepresent everything I write.
The apology you owe isn’t to me: it’s to the other readers of this blog for attempting to mislead them about my comments on teacher unions. You can’t even be honest about THAT. Done with me? I may have to rethink my atheism: perhaps there’s a just and merciful being running the universe after all. But I think you’ll remain true to your principles, such as they are, and continue to obfuscate and lie about everything I write that disturbs your microverse.
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Hey, where’s Barack on this? Surely he will speak out.
#DNCLeak “Yes, Super PAC paying young voters to push back online on #Sanders supporters” #DNCSoNeutral is a lie wikileaks.org/dnc-emails/ema…
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Also disturbing is The Donald’s alleged financial transactions with Putin & Russian banks. Seems like he couldn’t get US/Western bank money for his business so he went to the Russians. This might explain his references to NATO & the Baltics in his speech.
I’m sure this is a hard story to report (since much of trumps empire is privately held). But I think it’s one of the most important stories of this election.
That said, I’m no supporter of NATO’s overly aggressive posture, but for Trump to openly oppose defending NATO allies makes me fear he’d do anything as long as Putin or Russian oligarchs give him money.
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
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Unreal #DNCleak says Latinos are “the most brand loyal consumers” “unforgiving” & most susceptible to “storytelling”
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“Now who would want to sow discord among Democrats as the convention begins?”
Discord was sown long ago by the DNC when they did everything they could to stop Bernie Sanders. These revelations, no surprise, merely confirm what many of us think: the DNC (Hillary, Bill, etc.) are corporatist neocons who will increase Obama’s dangerous and destructive policies at home (corporate welfare, bailing out Wall Street while ignoring Main Street) and abroad (illegal drone assassinations which increase vengeance-fueled terrorism).
Hillary’s (and the DNC’s since 1992) record as First Lady on the poverty-increasing welfare ‘deform”; signing NAFTA; repeal of Glass-Steagall; the anti-democratic, monopoly-accelerating Telecommunications Act; Iraq sanctions which killed more than 500,000 Iraqi children; Bill’s bombing of Yugoslavia for 78 straight days; Senator Hillary’s support of the illegal 2003 war on Iraq; Secreatry Hillary’s support for the 2009 military coup in Honduras and the illegal 2011 war on Libya; her support for the 2014 U.S. coup in Ukraine; and her support for violent regime change in Syria all make her a dangerous, destructive choice for president. The neoliberals and neocons support her, as do the Fossil Fool Koch brothers and the anti-labor Chamber of Commerce.
Putin is sane and reasonable when it comes to foreign policy, compared to Obama & Hillary. Obama, who has deployed, with NATO, military forces all along Russia’s western borders, just sent a U.S. guided missile destroyer into the Black Sea. Imagine how the U.S. would react if a Russian guided missile ship entered the Gulf of Mexico.
Obama & Hillary’s neocon advisers actually believe the U.S. can “win” a “limited” nuclear war (a contradiction of reality) with Russia. Trump is an ignorant blowhard totally unqualified to be president, but Hillary is a war-loving threat to our existence.
As a NY resident, I will vote for a candidate who has sane policies and represents what I believe: Jill Stein.
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Portraying Putin as sane and reasonable compared to Obama and Hillary leaves me speechless. Tell that to the Chechnyans.
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Putin, schmutin. He didn’t write the emails, Joe.
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Joe, as has been pointed out, just because the exposure of these damning emails originated inside Russia doesn’t make them fraudulent or the work of Putin, and Putin’s character is not an issue in the Democratic Primary. It won’t likely be one in this election, either. Putin and Trump could be lovers and it wouldn’t support the notion that these emails don’t point damningly at the DNC, Debbie W-S, and perhaps Hillary Clinton as well, at least if and when this whole sordid business is thoroughly exposed (where are Woodward and Bernstein when we need them? Better yet, where is honest journalism when we need it?)
Of course, you’re clearly dedicated, as are some others, to deflecting this whole ugly affair onto anyone but the guilty. Because DONALD TRUMP IS SATAN!!! Cool story, bro; tell it again.
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@Ed Ciaccio: I think you’re right on the money here. Thanks.
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Putin and Trump are lovers
I would never have believed it if i had not seen the photographic proof with my own eyes.
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I guess that’s what it means to give/receive Putongue
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Emails, again? Trump Jr. aside, I’d like to know how much the Trump campaign knew about the emails and if they were ever contacted about them.
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I clicked on the Gawker link. Gawker didn’t “report” that the emails were leaked by Russia. It just wrote it.
“Russia, by way of Wikileaks, today released close to 20,000 hacked DNC emails searchable by keyword, just in time for the convention.”
No sourcing, just a conciliatory statement. Am I missing something? If there’s evidence that “Russia” leaked these, it’s certainly not in the linked Gawker story. Perhaps it’s just a thoughtless assumption based on the nationality of “Guccifer 2.0”?
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Sorry, meant a “conclusory” statement.
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Every major news organization reported in June that the emails were hacked by the Russian government. No one has reported how they went from the hackers to wikileaks.
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I wonder what one of my heroes, Edward Snowden is up to these days.
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I don’t consider msnbc, Fox News, or cnn news agencies anymore, so I don’t care what they have been reporting.
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CNN just reported that Debbie Wasserman Schultz will not preside over the convention and will not speak at the convention. When will she resign as Chairperson?
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That’s a tactic to reduce chaos and booing. We need “unity” y’all. Jump on the bandwagon.
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My guess is DW-S won’t preside or speak because she does not want tomatoes thrown at her.
Who can blame her?
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Nina Turner on wikileaks #dncleaks
https://twitter.com/robkall/status/756940679482335232
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See Fred Klonsky…one word – Debbie…how many left to take the fall for HRC?
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Josh Marshall of Talking Points Memo on the Trump – Putin financing connections:
http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/trump-putin-yes-it-s-really-a-thing
“To put this all into perspective, if Vladimir Putin were simply the CEO of a major American corporation and there was this much money flowing in Trump’s direction, combined with this much solicitousness of Putin’s policy agenda, it would set off alarm bells galore. That is not hyperbole or exaggeration. And yet Putin is not the CEO of an American corporation. He’s the autocrat who rules a foreign state, with an increasingly hostile posture towards the United States and a substantial stockpile of nuclear weapons. The stakes involved in finding out ‘what’s going on’ as Trump might put it are quite a bit higher.”
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Who ever leaked these emails it is a good thing because now people know what is going on. They can choose which way to go. They finally realize what happened in 2008. Diane, How it putting Hillary in the white house a win for education and children? I don’t think putting someone that is a pathological liar a person I want my kids to look up to. May be you should read Clinton Cash maybe it will help you figure out that she does not know where the boundaries are. I don’t care if she is the first woman nominated.
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Joanne,
The thought of President Trump terrifies me.
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anyone who calls Hillary Clinton a “pathological liar” while giving Trump a pass is suspect and most likely was a Trump supporter all along.
The people I know who supported Bernie — some who volunteered for him for 20 hours/week to elect him and others who just donated — have no been saying “we need to make sure Hillary isn’t elected because of this.” They are saying that Trump scared the bejeezus out of them and they don’t want him elected — especially since he could very well end up handing over the reigns to a Tea Party Vice President too awful even for very conservative Indiana.
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Imagine if you will that it’s 2008 and Hillary Clinton had been complaining throughout the primary season that the DNC was favoring Obama and trying to discredit and derail her campaign.
And then tens of thousands of emails appeared right before the convention proving that her accusations were absolutely correct.
I would LOVE to read the commentary from the Clinton camp and her supporters.
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Are you saying that the DNC was entirely neutral during the 2008 campaign? I doubt it.
I realize the e-mails talked about their dislike for Bernie, what what exactly did the DNC do to thwart democracy here? Can someone explain the unprecedented criminal actions they did?
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#NYC public school parent: I can’t tell you whether the DNC was perfectly neutral in ’08. My bet that it wasn’t. But it’s never been seriously argued that they actively tried to sway the outcome of the primaries or that they successfully arranged long before the election season to guarantee either an Obama victory or a Clinton loss. I suspect that if anything, the DNC would have preferred Clinton. It seemed the longest of longshots to the majority of “experts” and average Americans at the beginning of that preprimary and primary season that a black man could be elected POTUS. Clinton was a known commodity who would have been the safer choice, at least on the surface.
Rudy Giuliani was, by the way, the shoo-in GOP choice before the primaries in ’08. He wound up winning nothing at all. And no one suggested that the RNC rigged anything against him or in favor of John McCain. I doubt the RNC wanted Mitt Romney in ’12, either. But no one wrote or said that it was rigged for him.
I realize you can’t accept the idea that this was a rigged deal from early on or that millions of people who are saying so aren’t Trump supporters, Republicans, Teabillies, Satanists, or aliens, but rather Americans who’ve either woken up to how utterly corrupt the Democratic Party is now or realized it since the Clintons and their owners pushed it way Right in ’92 and thereafter. Obama looked like a progressive backlash, but he proved to be just another neoliberal tool. Sanders is a phenomenon that we’ve not seen in this country possibly ever. The powers-that-be couldn’t risk him. Trump or Clinton works fine for them, and my bet is that their preference really is Hillary. You can tell us from now until the end of days that Trump is the Antichrist, but he looks increasingly to me like a put-up job to smooth the path to eight more years of America’s ‘favorite’ tv show: Hill & Bill Go to Pennsylvania Avenue.” I will be cancelling my subscription.
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Uh-oh…this sounds familiar, doesn’t it, folks? Shades of “the vast right wing conspiracy,” always blamed during the Clintons’ troubles. It’s the art of politics (& the art of the deal!)–always, always blame a third party.
Just as the mainstream media has never reported on any of the Save Our Schools Marches (& did just a bit in reference to Matt Damon’s speaking out–but that was it), the Network for Public Education Conferences, the huge march in downtown Chicago on the occasion of ALEC’s (& does anyone, anyone who watches mainstream tv news or reads the corporate-owned dailies even know what ALEC is?) 40th birthday, held at the very fancy Palmer House Hotel, most of Bernie Sanders’ rallies (despite the fact that they were–ALL of them–YUGE {& that’s the most news that was given–the # of people attending those rallies} and–last but most certainly not least–the massive election fraud in the Democratic primaries (at this point, at least two law suits have been filed), where, then, can we get our news–the REAL news–from?
I admit it–I watch RTAmerica (& I watch BBCA, as well). As Ed Schultz (he, who was kicked off MSNBC, & was one of the ONLY journalists reporting from Madison, WI {& dared asked, “Where are you in your walking shoes, Mr. President?”}, RTA newsanchor says, “We’ll give you the straight talk…you won’t be railroaded. Question more.” (The last statement is RTA’s motto.)
& someone asked about Snowden…well, perhaps that’s where the leaks came from (he is there, after all). So, does that mean he’s in collusion w/the Russian government, part of some Trump plot? Seriously, folks, I think not!
&, Linda, thanks for the Nina Turner video. She’s been a guest on numerous RTA shows. I hope she runs for an office again, soon. We need her!!!
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I am a huge Bernie Sanders supporters but anyone who doesn’t understand that there was a vast right-wing conspiracy against Bill Clinton during his Presidency was not paying attention or perhaps was too young to know.
Very few politicians — including Bernie Sanders – could stand up to the type of scrutiny that the Clintons were under. Very few citizens could. There is always something embarrassing — usually not even illegal — that everyone except saints have in their life. I take it back — including saints — as Christopher Hitchens and others have pointed out about Mother Theresa. She was far from perfect. Nevertheless, she still did some good things.
I find some of these posts suspect — from people who would never have voted for Bernie and want the Republicans to take over this country. I am as outraged as Bernie Sanders is about this. Which is why both Bernie and I are supporting Hillary Clinton.
And also why I am pointing out that this person sounds like one of those right -wingers who claimed that no one was ever out to get the Clintons — the upright and perfect Ken Starr was just doing his job.
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NYC Parent,
I’m sorry to say that in the past week or so the blog has been the target of right wing trolls who come here to smear Hillary. They are not Bernie supporters. They are Trump trolls.
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Please notice that Bernie is not losing sight of the real issue, not allowing Donald Trump into the White House. Bernie knows that Trump is a pathological liar and is unstable.I am a Bernie supporter and have followed his lead in supporting Hillary. Read Jane Mayer’s interview with Tony Schwartz, the guy who reall wrote The Art of the Deal. It gives a very scary picture of Trump.
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#guyachs: no shortage of things Bernie has said that Democrats of a certain type have happily ignored for years. But he says something that suits their biases and suddenly he’s getting quoted in spades. Unfortunately, it’s the same quotation over and over and the rest is ignored by them, by Hillary, by Tim Kaine, by the DNC, and, of course, by the oligarchs who’ve bought and paid for them all.
Trump is a bad person. No one here appears to be arguing to the contrary with perhaps one occasional exception.
The issue for the progressives here is that Hillary isn’t our friend, not even kind of our friend, and she’s made clear REPEATEDLY that she has no interest in being our friend. Yet you expect us to say, “Oh, no problem! That Trump Ogre you’re constantly mentioning is such an incredible monster that we simply no longer see what Hillary Clinton is, has always been, and clearly intends to continue being when she has the reins of power in her hands.”
Can’t do it. Won’t do it. And to quote from DR. STRANGELOVE, “I don’t care if it harelips everyone on Bear Creek.” Where’s Slim Pickens when we need him?
And while I’m mentioning that Kubrick masterpiece, my TRYING to vote for Hillary Clinton would resemble Peter Sellers trying to use his one hand to stop the other from giving the Nazi salute. And I’m positive that in this case, the resisting hand would win against the voting hand, perhaps with help from my teeth or a conveniently-placed chain-saw.
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SDPoet: it is a consolation, thank you, particularly on a day when I was called “nothing but an Internet bully” (that ‘nothing’ cut me to the quick). I can now salvage a modicum of self-esteem until the next hammer blow falls. 🙂
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Before we get too carried away with the notion that it was Russians who leaked the emails, please read this. And follow the links he cites…
http://fair.org/home/with-dnc-leaks-former-conspiracy-theory-is-now-true-and-no-big-deal/
Proceed with caution.
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Word Press needs a like button for individual comments . My feelings exactly.
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The fact that the DNC controlled millions of dollars and one of the folks implicated in the email scandal is the DNC Chief Financial Officer.
This should not only raise red flags, it should demand an investigation by a independent entity that has subpoena power and is not associated with the Obama administration or either party.
When you tamper with an election, it is called “election fraud” and as Michael points out below, we have no idea what other things might have been done to help a Clinton victory.
It is a fact that there were many voter related “anomalies” during the primaries and the public needs to know if any of those was illegal.
This is serious business — we are talking about the integrity of the democratic process — and I am more than a little surprised that some people are trying to downplay it.
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I agree–it should be anything but downplayed. The problem is when we focus on the “Russian Question” we take our focus off what’s important. And what is important is everything you mention in your comment.
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NY Times now confirming Russia’s involvement in the DNC leak
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NYT? Yeah and they were right on with the Iraq war too.
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Linda, I’ve enjoyed your comments today (probably other days, too), but you can’t dissuade the Clintonistas that this isn’t EVERYONE ELSE’S FAULT. Everything is in Clintonia. The vast right win conspiracy, the nasty, sexist, racist Bernie Bros (who cares if millionsns of them were women and/or people of color?), and now it’s the RUSSIANS!!!!!
Where’s Lavrente Beria when you need him?
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Julia, does the NYT claim that the emails are fabrications or that they were doctored in some way? If not, while this might be intriguing, it misses the point: we’ve had our right to a fair primary/nomination process completely and shamelessly undermined by the so-called Democratic National Committee to ensure that the only progressive candidate is shut out and the faux-Democrat, Republican in progressive clothing (if we can consider $12,000 Armani attire as progressive) wins.
I didn’t want her. Millions of other voters didn’t want her (and we still don’t know how many more whose votes were not counted, were flipped, or were never allowed to be cast to begin with thanks to the DNC and/or state and local Democratic machines) and we still don’t for the most part.
This party had a chance to actually change the entire conversation for generations to come. Hell, we had a chance to ensure that there will BE generations to come on a better, safer, healthier planet. Instead, we’ve got two Republicans running against one another.
How much deflection by the NYT, WaPo, ad nauseam will it take for you to say, “No more!”
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Well let’s see – the Clinton foundation and Russia
http://mobile.nytimes.com/2015/04/24/us/cash-flowed-to-clinton-foundation-as-russians-pressed-for-control-of-uranium-company.html
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Linda,
In response to a NY Times article about Russian agencies infiltrating DNC computers and stealing data that is then strategically leaked a day before the democrats begin their convention, you post an article about Russian sources making charitable donations to the Clinton Foundation?
Seriously?
You are now defending Russian involvement in US elections, and possible collusion between Russia and Trump, to try and smear Hillary?
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And you seriously believe that trying to put the focus on Putin and Russia will deflect anyone not born yesterday from the issue: rigged elections/primaries on behalf of Hillary Clinton?
How can you “smear” someone whose own words and deeds are more than sufficient to show her to be beneath the very possibility of lowering her reputation for dishonesty, untrustworthiness, and ruthlessness?
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Michael,
You are such a virulent Hillary hater, that engaging with you is absolutely pointless. Have a nice life.
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Still no retort, then, to the main point, Julia: the emails are real, regardless of who leaked them or how they got access to them, and neither Debbie Wasserman-Schultz nor anyone else in the DNC or Team Clinton has publicly denied their authenticity.
As for my feelings about HRC, they’re like my feelings for all members and sympathizers with the current Republican Party. How ’bout yourself? You make exceptions for Republicans if they wear the Democratic team jersey? Big former Joe Lieberman fan? Mutual disengagement sounds wonderful, in that case, but you keep insisting on writing things that make no sense and/or smack of falsehood, disingenuousness, or naivete. I find it hard to resist pointing out the inadequacies. Sorry.
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Hillary smears herself on a regular basis. Just wait for the next round of emails. Clinton foundation coming up soon. Not worshiping HRC is not equal to supporting Trump. We can question both.
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Linda174,
No one suggests you should worship Hillary.
We are in the midst of a presidential election.
Either Hillary or Trump will be elected in November.
You can choose to vote for one of them or vote third party or stay home.
But whatever you do, either Hillary or Trump will be elected.
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“does the NYT claim that the emails are fabrications or that they were doctored in some way? If not, while this might be intriguing, it misses the point: we’ve had our right to a fair primary/nomination process completely and shamelessly undermined by the so-called Democratic National Committee”
There you go again arguing the facts, Michael.
You, you… Hillary hater.
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SD Poet: Well, I just posed a question the answer to which would seem to be a simple yes or no. And I would have liked to get a reply other than commenting on my emotional state, real or imagined, because my eyesight isn’t what it used to be, and I didn’t want to waste any of it on the NYT unless I knew there was information in it I didn’t already know or could readily deduce, namely a bottomless cornucopia of obfuscation and Hilbilge.
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SomeDAM Poet,
1) Diane’s post was about the role Russia played in stealing and releasing the emails. That is a HUGE story in and of itself. Not sure why we can’t discuss that without devolving into Hillary hatred.
2) The DNC emails reflect an inappropriate political preference and that should not have happened. But the emails do not prove that any actions were taken that changed the outcome of the primary. Bernie lost because he received many fewer votes, not because of voter fraud or because of anything that the DNC did. Bernie accepted that. You need to as well and move on to the main election which does not include Bernie. Either Hillary or Trump will win. There are no other options right now.
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Julia
read my comment here (and the one indented just below that one)
As I said, who leaked the emails and why is are a separate issue from the actual contents and what that means.
Quite frankly I do not wish to get into speculation about who leaked them and why until I see concrete evidence. Because at this point, that’s all it is, speculation.
If you wish to speculate, no one is stopping you. go for it.
But Michael was talking about facts and so far, the DNC has not claimed that the emails were anything other than fact. The fact that Wasserman_Schultz resigned is tacit admission of that.
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For some insights see @snowden
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Julia ,
Is the State Department saying that the Russians Government has invaded the US political process. Is the the FBI making that claim. Is the NSA making that claim , Is the CIA director making that claim.
If they were I would advise caution ,as I said remember WMD. Remember Gulf of Tonkin . But they are not . The DNC is making that claim . These people are “the smartest people in the room” undermining their own candidate, on a National security issue . Remember the emails . If I were Trump I would have said it was a foreign Government . The Russians .
But what troubles me more is the defining noise to rekindle the Cold War. Putin is not a good guy . But being a good guy has never been high on our priority list . The Saudi’s are some of the most despicable
leaders on earth chopped off more innocent heads in Public than Isis . Never stopped us from breaking bread with them. Putin does not even come close yet we are demonizing him for actions that are completely understandable from a Russian perspective. So the only thing more dangerous than a bad guy with a gun is demonizing a bad guy with the second largest nuclear arsenal on the planet.
“This conjunction of an immense military establishment and a large arms industry is new in the American experience. The total influence – economic, political, even spiritual – is felt in every city, every Statehouse, every office of the Federal government. We recognize the imperative need for this development. Yet we must not fail to comprehend its grave implications. Our toil, resources and livelihood are all involved; so is the very structure of our society.
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the military-industrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.
We must never let the weight of this combination endanger our liberties or democratic processes. We should take nothing for granted. Only an alert and knowledgeable citizenry can compel the proper meshing of the huge industrial and military machinery of defense with our peaceful methods and goals, so that security and liberty may prosper together. ” (If I have to attribute this quote I am on the wrong site) .
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Check out @wikileaks This sent to many “news” outlets. I am very skeptical of MSM reporting.
@MRSmithAP Major error. The documents the article talks about are not the emails we released. Infact, not emails at all. Dates also wrong.
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NYC Public School Parent at 7:22 PM–Were you responding to my comment about “the vast right wing conspiracy?” If so, I just want you to know that I am, of course, old enough to know what went on during the Clinton years (goodness, I’m RETIREDbutmissthekids!). In fact, I voted–gladly & wholeheartedly–for Bill twice. In fact, I was a BIG fan & admirer of both Bill & Hillary for a long time, and I read just about every book that was written about them. I thought the fuss made over the Monica Lewinsky situation (and I do–& did at the time– feel badly for her, as well) was outrageous (neither my husband nor I read the entire account that was, incredibly {at the behest of Kenneth Starr–now look what he’s done!} printed in every newspaper in the country. I loved what Hillary was trying to do about healthcare, & I had long discussions with people about the value of the “getting 2-for-1,” as President Clinton put it–Hillary was (& still is) so bright, such a hard worker and she had the right values. Yes, right-wingers (but others, as well) did pick at the Clintons, but it also had something to do with the ways of Washington, D.C. If you read all of the books (& I’m not talking about those written by conspiracy theorists–I’m talking about books written by people such as David Mariniass {First in His Class}, George Stephanopoulos {All Too Human} and Carl Bernstein {A Woman in Charge}), NYC PSP (&, perhaps you have), one can get a balanced picture of the Clintons (oh, & I read the books they’d written, as well).
That having been said, as the years have gone by (particularly, the 2008 elections, numerous issues in the Bernstein book–& I have urged educators here, on Diane’s blog, to read it–very telling part about HRC & the Arkansas teachers, Benghazi, the e-mails, Wall Street, Walton, Broad connections, the questionable build up/state of the Clinton Foundation), I feel that I have been seeing yet another case of absolute power corrupting absolutely. And the death knell in all of this is what most of what the DNC led by DWS did–to systematically destroy a candidate who far exceeded expectations purely through the money and power of the people and–as Diane is always urging here–SPEAKING TRUTH TO POWER. As another commenter put it (and well), Debbie did the job that the Clinton Campaign set her out to do. Leaked e-mails or not, all of the Bernie supporters I have worked with knew that well before.
Anyway, I am not a troll (I have been commenting on Diane’s blog practically since it started–I’m a former public school teacher, pro-public schools, anti-“standardized” testing, opt-out volunteer, union & teachers association member, special ed. advocate, & 100% part of the 99%…etc.) And, finally, I am certainly NOT a “Trump troll,” am NOT pro-Trump, and would never in a million years vote for Trump.
This is by-&-far the most difficult election in my 46-years-of-voting life.
I will be watching the convention and closely reading all the commentary & other news outlets I cited in my earlier comment.
Finally, I will be watching and listening to the candidate most worthy of the presidency–the one who had the election stolen from him. And from us–we, the people.
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For what it’s worth, most of us who comment here know you are certainly not a troll (Trump or any other kind) and that your comments are always very thoughtful.
Frankly, it disturbs me when people (especially teachers) are called trolls based on the flimsiest of reasoning (and zero evidence)
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Nicely said but I would only disagree in that I was never thrilled with the Clinton’s. To me the best part of Bill Clinton’s administration were the unmasking of Republicans for what they were . His policy always upset me as did most of Obama’s . However I can not allow my vote to contribute to the election of Trump.
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@MRSmithAP Major error. The documents the article talks about are not the emails we released. Infact, not emails at all. Dates also wrong.
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https://twitter.com/suemire/status/757542388273287168
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Seems pretty easy for our enemies to hack e-mails. Thanks god we don’t keep anything sensitive to national security on private servers…
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About emails: we must all recognize that everything we put on the Internet can be viewed by corporations, by our government, by any hacker. As the president of Cisco said many years ago, “Privacy is dead.”
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@Brian Huskie: And a good thing we don’t resort to sarcasm that some Hill-glasses-wearing readers would prefer to miss or ignore. 🙂
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