I don’t normally stray far from education issues, but a reader on the blog posted a comment with a link saying that Target stock had gone into free-fall because it was making inclusive bathrooms available so as to avoid the “transgender-bathroom” issue.
Conservative websites said that one million people signed a petition, and Target’s stock fell sharply. Snopes says this is untrue.
If it is necessary to boycott facilities that offer “family restrooms,” open to males and females alike, then indignant people should boycott the Raleigh, NC, Convention Center, the Raleigh Marriott Hotel, and the Raleigh airport. And be sure to boycott the bathrooms on airplanes because they are all non-gendered.
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Not to mention Porta-Potties …
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Or trees. It is never an issue when camping in narrow.
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*nature
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The restroom facilities in my home are non-gendered.
And something tells me that the bathrooms in all the people who decry non-gendered facilities homes are non gendered.
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I loved reading this post.
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I believe the time has come when people should be punished for intentionally posting false links on social media. It is slander and needs to stop. This is just a drop in the bucket of what will be posted, as we approach the November election date. The bullies and liars will be out in full force. If Trump can sue someone because a person says his father was a orangutan over a political joke by producing his birth certificate, it is time to sue the people who are responsible for the pics of Hillary with Bin Laden and other outrageous memes. People are so gullible and Trump will stoop to the lowest of lows soon, and has already started with his “Crooked Hillary” label. We are in trouble people, and I have never been more frightened about an election. I am so concerned for my children and grandchildren. The HATE comments about Hillary are coming out of the woodwork – democrats have their work cut out for them. I have given up on any sanity in Indiana, but my biggest fear is Pence and his cronies will win again
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“I believe the time has come when people should be punished for intentionally posting false links on social media.”
We certainly need seditious libel and/or religious blasphemy laws to punish those who not knowingly post false links on social media. What might be the name of the law: American Freedom of Speech Act or how about Speech/Hate Intentional Talk law.
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Careful what you wish for there—-watchdogs are watchdogs, whether they are left big brother or right big brother. Just because people pass along links doesn’t mean they know for sure they are necessarily true; this blog is for discussion; nobody here is a professional writer publishing stuff in the comments for any sort of journalistic record (well, at least they aren’t wearing that hat when commenting for for reason of publication, but for reason of conversation).
The right finds the left to be just as big a bullying presence as the right finds the left to be. I’m a moderate. I just watch the ball go back and forth and I find it interesting.
I don’t care what bathrooms people use. I find the situation interesting from an intellectual standpoint. Someone indicated on this blog (or maybe another ) that it would come down to definition of terms (sort of like the Clinton “it depends on what your definition of “is” is).
And so it continues.
There will have to be a definition now (unless this gets thrown out of court, but I can’t imagine that happening).
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2016/05/09/north-carolina-justice-dept-face-monday-deadline-for-bathroom-bill/
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I mean the left finds the right to be
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Here is an example of how the right sees bathroom issues as part of a larger agenda.
To me, this type article is no more of strong political leaning than this blog is. I think any conservative person who read this blog would find it to be very left. Which is why I don’t understand how public schools can ever work when the dominant voice is only left, left, left.
Where are the rational conversations about public schools regardless (or Irregardless, to name a good Raleigh restaurant) of political slant. The more I realize how deep the politics is of ideology on both sides, the more I understand why public schools are dwindling in number. Maybe the right always did resent public schools, but I doubt it. I don’t think they do now, I think they just don’t want public schools to only be havens of left ideology.
http://dailysignal.com/2016/05/06/new-chicago-schools-bathroom-policy-proves-liberals-extreme-agenda/
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Public schools are not havens of leftist ideology. Teachers encounter every kind of student, every kind of family. They must treat every student, every family with respect. That’s not leftist. That’s American.
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Over the years I have frequently seen women go into the men’s bathroom when there was a long line for the ladies room, but no one using the men’s room. Same thing happens when one or the other restroom runs out of toilet paper, people will generally go into the other restroom to get paper. I guess these discriminatory laws would make that kind of thing illegal. This whole “bathroom controversy” is just sad.
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This is not a transgender issue. These folks have been using ladies rooms for years and they look the part. Family restrooms have been available for some time. There have been no documented cases of abuse in ladies rooms toward transgenders. There have been, however, many cases in the NW of fully clothed men in the ladies facilities claiming that they are female and are just peeping toms and perverts. Women are feeling that their privacy is being invaded. Modest and abused women feel especially violated. They are made to feel abnormal. Since when is a sexual identity condition considered a “right”? In Washington state a panel of 5 unelected people decided to improve the Title ix laws. They have created a mess where it did not exist before. Stores, dining establishments and schools have no choice but to comply. These places should be able to accommodate women who wish privacy. Raging hormones among young males should not put young girls in harms way. It is called common sense. Many people wonder why the masses must yield to 3%of the population of which only .3% are involved. It is a PC issue that many people feel is the last straw.
Please, lets get back to the important issues of educating our children
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It is a political issue, though. And that factors in heavily for public schools, like it or not. See my post above.
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I am a heterosexual female who went with my boyfriend to a New Year’s Eve party at a men’s gay bar. It was the year 2000, a celebration of the new millennium in Austin, Texas, and I wanted the best view of downtown. Hor d’oeuvres and the open bar were on the roof; tiaras were at the door. We had an absolute blast. You have never met a more fun crowd of dancing fools. When a beautiful “woman” stood demurely next to me waiting for a stall, all I was wondering was where did she get that gorgeous outfit? Please people, your demure young girls are safe.
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Thanks, Erin, for chiming in. Gay men are not interested in little girls or grown women. Other than to be like them.
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Thank you for researching it.
I was not aware that “family restrooms” was a complaint of HB2 fans—I thought it was a reason for not needing the Charlotte ordinance, which provoked HB2.
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Involved Mom,
HB2 was never necessary. Family bathrooms are gender neutral.
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I was saying I don’t think HB2 fans have a problem with family bathrooms. I think they react to businesses being told they have to let anyone use whatever bathroom they want. Family bathrooms are the obvious answer to the whole situation; so it doesn’t make sense to me that family bathrooms are what HB2 fans are against. I think they are against being told they have to set up a business bathroom situation that allows anyone to use whichever bathroom they want. It’s about being told what one has to allow in their own place of business that provoked ire from the right—not issues of gender or body parts or anything like that. Even from the standpoint of privacy and safety, I think it boils down more to what a municipality can require of its businesses and those employing others and operating businesses.
As I’ve said in other posts (and as Jim Martin’s article knodded at), I think LGBT community puts too much symbolism in formal declarations that trannies can use the bathroom they identify with. If they were already doing so, Charlotte didn’t need to pass the ordinance they did. But they did. And even if Hb2 was unnecessary, it was provoked by the Charlotte Ordinance.
But again, I think if you ask a libertarian type they would say family bathrooms are not an issue. So I don’t think all the dots are connecting on this.
All I know, and the only way I know to try to empathize with either side who has an opinion (because, really I don’t care—I think single user bathrooms for anyone are a logical solution, or family restrooms), is I know I have resented Race to the Top, which epitomized the federal government strong-arming states into following a certain agenda for schools. I found that to be frustrating. So when I see the federal government doing the same thing in other areas, I pause and consider the parallels.
I don’t want anyone to be discriminated against. Half the fun of singing in bands is seeing people come out and just be who they are. . .whatever that is. But I also think there has to be a limit to how much the federal government, and likewise a municipality where businesses operate, can thwart an opinion for how things should be done. There are logical times when protocol makes sense, and times when it creates head scratching. The issue is simple to those of us who want everyone to feel good about themselves wherever they are in life, etc. and for whoever they are, etc. But many people carry taller convictions of what a government should be able to make them do. And that’s the issue here. They see a government making them do something or swallow something as OK as overreach. Kind of like I see RttT (I guess that’s why I am so willing to debate on this issue, when normally I agree with the liberal agenda more, no question). I see parallels with RttT.
The right sees Charlotte as pushing an agenda that begins to deny the differences between males and females. They fear it as part of a larger liberal agenda, just as the left fears many actions of the right as part of a larger conservative agenda.
But again, I don’t think most pro-HB2 folks are against family bathrooms. I think that’s an assumption that has been added incorrectly to some of the rhetoric, which is why McCrory rightly states that the media has created mixed messages and so forth.
Now it will be in the courts.
I think Target said people can use whatever bathroom they want. So i don’t think the conservative energy against Target is about family bathrooms.
And those who are looking at things from a safety standpoint are thinking more about YMCA and gym locker rooms and showers, etc.
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