Alan Singer says it is time to protest the inequitable conditions in East Ramapo, NewYork, where Orthodox Jews control the school board. The school board starves the public schools of resources, but is very generous to the private religious schools their own children attend.
He writes:
“Nine thousand Black and Latino children attending East Ramapo, New York public schools are warehoused in over-crowded, under-funded failing schools because a school board controlled by a White religious group is using public school dollars to subsidize their own children who attend religious schools. District school budgets have been defeated four of the last five years and eight of the last eleven, the highest rate of budget rejection in New York State. Meanwhile Andrew Cuomo, the Governor of New York State, Merryl Tisch, the Chancellor of the State Board of Regents, the governing body for education in New York, and John King, the Education Commissioner, have all remained silent. That is why it is time to march against racism in East Ramapo…..
“The district is now bankrupt because of all the money channeled to private religious schools despite major cuts in public education spending…..”
The state-appointed monitor, Hank Greenberg, “Prior to delivering his report to State Education, Greenberg told reporters he did not believe the East Ramapo school board acted “out of base or venal motives.” Rather, their concern about the children from their own religious group had “blinded them to the needs of the entire community.” This is surprising language from a lawyer given that Greenberg’s job was to investigate legal and financial impropriety, not determine whether the school board was moral but blinded by good intentions. However, I am not a lawyer. Greenberg found the district’s funding pattern to be “unique” in New York State and charged the faction in control of the East Ramapo school board of “abysmal” fiscal management and noted the district was teetering “on the precipice of fiscal disaster.” This is an example of institutional racism, whether school board members think they are acting in good faith to meet the needs of children from their own religious community. That is why it is time to march against racism in East Ramapo.
“Since 2009, the non-venal majority in control of the East Ramapo school board has eliminated 245 public school positions, including special education teachers, guidance counselors, social workers, and elementary school assistant principals. It replaced full-day kindergarten with half-day, eliminated instrumental music for younger children, ended transportation for field trips, reduced athletic and extra-curricular activities by fifty percent, closed the summer school, and depleted the district’s emergency reserves, money it is legally required to maintain for insurance, liability and unanticipated costs. That is why it is time to march against racism in East Ramapo.
“Meanwhile, district spending on programs benefiting private religious school students have increased substantially. From 2006-7 to 2013-14, district spending on transporting private school students specifically increased nearly 77 percent. From 2010-11 to 2013-14, the cost of providing special education for students enrolled in private religious schools increased by 33 percent. More than 23,500 students are transported daily to private religious schools in East Ramapo, 18,000 by private companies that are essentially subsidized by the school district. Special education students receive services in forty different religious schools, which are also essentially subsidized by the school district. These subsidies to families that send their children to private religious schools make up over one-third of the district budget.”
The state may be reluctant to intervene because it has poor record of taking over entire districts (e.g., Roosevelt in Long Island), but the state should take over to protect the children from a school board that doesn’t care about them.
Meanwhile, unbeknownst to Alan Singer when he wrote about the district, the East Ramapo board sold a closed school for use as a religious school at what appears to be less than its fair market value. The state did not object.

NOW Alan Singer is writing about this?
This has been going on in Ramapo for more than 8 years.
I support Alan, and this is not about Jews vs. Gentiles, religion against other faiths or agnostics . . . . But it is about public vs. private and haves vs. have-nots. Nor is this about anti-semitism, of which I personally am very vigilant about and sensitive to.
What the Hasidim have done here is disgusting, it’s vile, and it violates every talmudic principle and tenet of Tikkun Olan I know of. But it does not surprise me because everyone thinks of themselves instead of the collective whole.
If the collective whole were as cohesive and organized as the Orthodox community, this would not have happened. . . . . Nor would NCLB or RttT.
One thing I admire about the Hasidim is they know how to stick together and act collectively to protect and fortify their members.
Let’s all take a lesson from them and do the same for all people who are not part of the 2%. Let’s use that force to bring back public education and the middle class.
We outnumber the Orthodox community and the 2% . . . . .
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I have read about this issue previously. It is the same situation in Newark minus the religious element. Public monies are being diverted to quasi private charter schools. The Hasidic community is notably insular, but what is Greenberg’s excuse?
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The religious element is a pretty huge element, though.
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No, it’s not.
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FLERP! is correct. Politicians don’t want to lose votes from the religious voting bloc, so they tend to look the other way.
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I’ve been following this Ramapo insanity from afar.
You want to know what privatizers and corporate reformers are all about when their mask falls off? Check this out.
Below is some of the most riveting video—outside of NY State Ed/ Commissioner John King’s aborted “Open Forum”—- I’ve ever seen during this whole corporate reform privatization fiasco of the last thirteen years… and I’ve watched a lot of this.
(NOTE: Bullies don’t grow UP. They just grow OLDER.)
PART ONE:
In Ramapo, the low point came when Christopher Kirby, the lawyer representing the Orthodox Jews gutting the public schools, kept smirking and intimidating one of the parents testifying during a school board meeting. Kirby does it at the beginning of the video, then leaves the room, and everything’s fine… but not for long.
For the next couple minutes, with Kirby out of the room, the woman then calmly makes her case that the Ramapo district is not serving the needs of her special ed child, while praising what her teachers are attempting despite being under-funded.
Nothing explosive… just a mom sharing her child’s story… until all Hell breaks loose…
At 3:10
Kirby comes back in the room (OFF-SCREEN) and tries to intimidate the parent again with the smirking. The woman testifying points this out, and another parent steps in and asks for the Chair to do something, and Kirby blurts out…
KIRBY: “I’ll smirk if I want to! I’ll LAUGH if I want to!”
The woman, voice breaking and on the verge of tears, tries to continue when Kirby taunts her,
KIRBY: (devilish smile) “I’m—still—smirrrr-king.”
In response, the woman starts crying hysterically, particularly at the Hassidic board members who do nothing to rein in Kirby’s bullying.
WOMAN: (thru her tears) “YOU ALL SHOULD BE ASHAMED OF YOURSELVES TO LET HIM SIT THERE AND LET HIM TREAT ME LIKE THAT, and you just sit there!!! I’m not attacking anyone. I’m just telling what good job our teachers are doing.”
This goes on for a bit, until Kirby again persists in taunting her.
KIRBY: (mocking tone) “I’m STILL smirrrr-king.”
This abomination was nothing compared to what happened later. It was but a prelude to…
PART TWO:
If that wasn’t bad enough, there was an appalling confrontation later that night where Kirby was on the verge of violence towards the parents in the parking lot. He threatened to beat up the father… challenging him to a fight… impugned his manhood…
One of the Hassidic school board members—these fine Men of God and the clients paying Kirby—-is present during all this.. He just stands there and does almost nothing until finally—FINALLY!!!—stepping in at the end.
At 00:30
Kirby, knowing that he’s being taped on multiple cell phones, gets out of his car, stands, and gives them the finger, and taunts them.
(BTW, as you peruse this video, here’s a question:
Can you imagine what the corporate reformers such as teacher-basher Campbell Brown would do with video of a teacher—particularly a teacher union leader—acting like Kirby, all the while knowing full well cameras were rolling? Think about THAT one.)
KIRBY: (standing, mocking) “Take a picture!”
AT 00:40
HUSBAND: (to his wife, not Kirby) “He’s an a——.”
KIRBY: (walks quickly towards them) “YOU’RE the a——! You hide behind a bunch of women?!”
WOMAN: (sensing imminent violence) “We’re calling the police! Ramapo Police are on the way!”
KIRBY: (to the HUSBAND) “Go hide behind your women!… Call me an a—– when we’re alone!”
HUSBAND: “Where should I meet you?”
KIRBY: (sarcastic) “You really want to fight? I can tell. You hide behind what… seven women here?”
WOMAN: “He’s not hiding behind anybody. Who are YOU hiding behind? Your paycheck?”
—and here comes the dreaded c-bomb
KIRBY: (to the WOMAN) “SHUT UP, YOU FAT C—!”
WOMAN: (to KIRBY) “You just- … That’s it! That’s it!”
KIRBY: (mocking/mimicking) ” ‘That’s it! That’s it!l ”
OTHER WOMAN: “Don’t let him leave.”
KIRBY: (normal screaming voice) “F— YOU! YOU F—ING B—-!”
Finally, the Hassidic Board Member—this great Man of God—steps in and asks Kirby to leave.
Again, bullies don’t grow UP. They just grow OLDER.
To Christopher Kirby, if you’re reading this… why don’t you come on this board and explain yourself and/or apologize?
If a teacher would lose his/her credential over behavior such as this—and in California, such a hypothetical teacher would be banned from teaching for life after a video such as this went to the Commission on Teacher Credentialing up in Sacramento—shouldn’t a lawyer be disbarred for this, since he is acting in his capacity as a lawyer?
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It’s never a good sign when the client is the one telling the lawyer to calm down and go home.
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That’s what I thought. The client works for them, not the other way around.
Secretly, though, this Hassidic board member was likely loving this whole thing. At the time, and later when he and the other Hassidic board members viewed the video, they all were probably high-fiving each other:
“That’s right! That’s what we’re paying your firm $1 million bucks-a-year of our citizens’ taxes for! That’s it! Beat up on the non-Hassidic, assimilated Jews! That’s that they get for assimilating, and trying to stop us from gutting their mixed ethnicity, non-religious schools!”
Think about it… as the radio show (ABOVE & also BELOW) details, the Hassidic board made a phony public statement of indignation and a promise to both fire Kirby and the firm Minerva & D’Agostino… just to placate people in the short run… but then, when the hubub died down, they showed their true colors. Nothing happened either to potty-mouthed thug Kirby or his firm. He and they are still representing the Hassidic board, and pulling in the $1 million/year of tax money—including the taxes of Kirby’s victims in the video. That’s right. They’re paying to be abused like that.
Those Hassidics were probably loving the whole grotesque behavior on display in the video. These noble “men of God” probably watch it over and over just for laughs, “Play it again! Let’s see the part where he calls the husband a c—sucker, and the part where he calls his wife the c-word!”
For any of you who think that’s not the case, WHY ARE KIRBY AND HIS FIRM STILL EMPLOYED BY THEM???!!! Couldn’t they have Kirby or D’Agostino speak at a board meeting and make a public apology to those parents? Nope. NEVER GONNA HAPPEN!
On that score, could you imagine what would happen to teachers or parents whose indignation manifested itself, on video, in expletive-filled threats of violence towards any corporate reform people? They’d lose their credential, be fired, and likely banned for life from teaching. Campbell Brown would post it all over the internet.
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Jack
What? Board Members acting badly?
Have you ever been to Western New York? And I’m not just talking about the BPS (though you will get an earful about their antics). Google the Hamburg School Board.
And Superintendents not meshing with teachers. I live in Williamsville, NY – An exemplary school district. Both the teachers AND administrators union are asking for the School Board to investigate the abuses of their superintendent.
Sometimes it’s the adults who need to sit in time out with their mouth full of soap.
Ellen T Klock
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Jack,
I went to many board meetings when they were trying got use property to build a school for their Talmud “students” (adult males with families). They own Christopher St Lawrence, who would snot be elected without them. He is the slime ball whose company built the Boulders Ball Park, where an orchard once grew, in a suburban community with NO ball team, even though the TAXPAYERS voted it down.
Can you spell den of thieves???
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Here’s a radio program that includes a recap of the Ramapo situation, including the parking lot incident from the point of view of the parents:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority?act=2#play
Go to 39:45
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NARRATOR: “Still though, the most remarkable example of the bizarro role that the school board’s law firm has taken on in this conflict… ”
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and on it goes with the account of the parking lot imbroglio.
According to this radio show, the Hassidic-controlled board were then met with an outcry to fire both this lawyer, Christopher Kirby, and Kirby’s law firm, Minerva & D’Agostino.
In response, they released a statement publicly promising to do so. However, they were just making a phony promise. They ultimately never did anything. Both Kirby and his law firm remain as the board’s legal representatives, with nothing happening to them.
Both the board and the law firm have utter disdain for the community. They can say or do anything, and get away with it.
The program then addresses the elephant in the room—anti-Semitism.
at 48:47
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NARRATOR: “If I can, I need to change gears here. Talk about part of the story that you may have noticed, that this whole story treads near some of the most destructive anti-Semitic stereotypes in existence… ”
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… and on it goes with anti-Semitic incidents arising in the aftermath of the divisive “Us vs. Them” schism in the community caused, at least in party, by the Hassidic-controlled board’s actions.
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Robert, do you live here in East Ramapo, too.
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What has happened in East Ramapo is disgusting! It used to be a good, diverse school system with effective leadership. The district has a huge religious group that sends its children to private schools. When they realized, if they voted in a block, they could control the board of education and the public schools, As a result, they have stripped the school district of any of its quality, and many of the middle class residents have moved out. They also fired any staff that have gotten in their way in their quest to “reorganize.” Now Cuomo’s people are involved, Can the vulture capitalists with privatization plans be far behind?
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This American Life did a pretty thorough report on this, it is worth a listen for anyone concerned about this topic:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority
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Regarding the radio program above dealing with the Ramapo situation:
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Here’s the link to the PROLOGUE: (4.5 minutes long)
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority?act=0#play
Here’s the link to ACT ONE: (25 minutes long)
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority?act=1#play
Here’s the link to ACT TWO: (26 minutes long)
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority?act=2#play
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It’s all worth a listen…
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I’m not sure about the Ramapo School District, but I do know that the Buffalo Public Schools has cut services over the years but has provided services such as speech, OT, and PT to students in need at religious institutions. Many of these services are provided by Erie County or NYS, not from Buffalo monies. Who pays what, what services are reimbursed, and what sort of transportation is provided for non public schools for regular and/or special needs students is a complicated formula.
The main point is whether the Superintendent and school board understand their role and the finances of the schools under their jurisdiction. If they are incompetent, they should be voted out of office. Be careful though, from personal experiences I feel that sometimes the new members are just as bad, if not worse, than those who are ousted.
In any case, I hope this focus puts some pressure on those responsible to reexamine the situation and make appropriate adjustments.
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“The main point is whether the Superintendent and school board understand their role and the finances of the schools under their jurisdiction. If they are incompetent, they should be voted out of office”
What is so disturbing about the E Ramapo situation to me is that it points up the warping of democratic principles in many sectors of the economy. Here, a cultural faction establishes a majority by buying up much of the residential property in a poorer town. They can’t be voted out of office. They send their kids to private school, but use their voting power to hollow out the public school budget. Presumably the goal is to lower property taxes, to the detriment of the minority & to the benefit of their pocketbooks.
The E Ramapo circumstance obviously echoes longstanding racial issues addressed by civil rights laws (which should be brought to bear here). But it also mirrors the private corporate sector’s power grab for public school systems (‘ed deform’).
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The last ethical superintendent was a friend and former colleague, one of the most honest and bright person I know. When he objected, he was fired and the board brought in a “Yes” man to rubber stamp their scheme.
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What’s really appalling is that the Hassidic Jewish board members regularly refer to the parents advocating for their public schools as anti-Semitic, (presumbably self-hating) Jews… and yes… you guessed it… Nazis.
In their school board campaigns, the Hassidic school board candidates’ commercials showed images of Hitler, Nazi soldiers goose-stepping, and pictures of emaciated concentration camp prisoners—indicating that those non-Hassidic Jewish (!) pro-public school parents and their candidates were continuing in the Nazi tradition, with their ultimate goal to be to re-boot the Holocaust. The commercials even included the violin theme from SCHINDLER’S LIST playing on the soundtrack.
Truly crazy stuff…. and I thought the school board campaigns in L.A. were bad.
They even took a picture of parent activist Peggy Hatton (sp?)—the woman who was called a “f—ing b—” and a “fat c—” in the parking lot by Christopher Kirby, their attorney—and put a Hitler moustache on her face, then tweeted it around the community.
It’s all in ACT TWO of the radio show:
http://www.thisamericanlife.org/radio-archives/episode/534/a-not-so-simple-majority?act=2#play
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Sadly, this is democracy at its perverse best — majority rules. I’m hoping that all of what has been recorded on video, and written above, has been reported to NYSED — either by people in the East Ramapo School District, or by the people responsible for posting same here. I also hope that the attorney was brought up on grievance charges — that’s a good way of stopping him from practicing law in the State.
But I take offenses at the use of the word “racism.” Given that there is a diversity of people being affected by this Board’s power trip — including people with peach-colored skin and secular Jews, I think it’s a very dangerous word to use. Selfish, promoting self-interests, yes. Racism? No.
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Peach-colored skin?
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Yes, peach. White is the color of paper, and snow, and milk, and coconut. I’ve never seen anyone with skin the color of snow. So that is why I said “peach.”
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Thanks. Wasn’t familiar with that one as a word for “White”
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HERE IS THE TRUTH ABOUT EAST RAMAPO!!!
I live in East Ramapo. IN THE SEVENTIES AND EIGHTIES My sons went to East Ramapo schools from kg thru high school… so let me explain that what happened here is so much moRe than racism.
When I moved in to this school district in 1966 there were 70,000 students attending, and Pomona Jr HS was third int the state. MY sons had AP courses BEGINNING in grade 7. They were both able to again college credits equivalent to one full year in college.
I Loved to teach n East Ramapo. I loved the rigorous standards for education which I saw first hand as my sons went through the system, and I WAS A SUBSTITUTE FOR 12 YEARS, in all 3 middle schools, the 2 high schools and all 13 elementary schools.
Even a s a sub, I was required to continue with the plans of the absent teachers, and evaluated by administration. With 3 licenses, several college degrees, and lots of talent, I was a top sub. The teachers I met were top rate.
WHAT HAPPENED.???
An invasion by people who send their own children to private schools (yeshivas) and who voteD down the secular budgets. As this community grew — and it grows because the orthodox have huge families, … 12 to 16 children is not unusual… and they marry early and have more children. Look at Kiras Joel upstate and see how ti works.
Thus, mile by mile, they bang to inhabit all of Monsey, and moved into Grandview, and then into Pomona… and then — they voted onto the pUBLIC SCHOOL BOARDS, their own people.
I went to meetings, a few years back, when they were attempting to tear down the woodlands in my neighborhood, to build a ‘school.” Well, the students here were in their 20s and would be studying torah, and there needed to be ‘student housing’ for their families, too, so this property, that had been purchased decades ago to build public schools, and which contained nature preserves, ponds and wildlife for biology study, would be used to build huge orthodox community. We taxpayers, would bear the cost of roads, sewage etc.
I am Jewish, and I was born into an orthodox family.
Yet, as a member of the reform Jewish community, I was shocked when I went to the East Ramapo board meeting. Every board member but one, wore a kipper (yarmulke) and sent their own kids to YESHIVA, AS THEY MADE DECISIONS FOR THE SECULAR COMMUNITY.
Thus, while the schools in Clarkstown — the adjacent district) attracted secular home buyers and grew into a thriving public school district, , East Ramapo became a mecca for Williamsburg residents, and soon, as Yeshivas grew every few miles, where trees and orchards once flourished, the school population dwindled to 17,000 mostly ethnic minorities.
The disrespect for the secular community, the people who manned the police and fire departments, did the sanitation and roads , worked in the government and stores, was enormous.
It is so much more than racism. It was a total invasion.
These people who lived in the midst of a secular community, destroyed East Ramapo PUBLIC SCHOOLS, and the middle class fled, and THAT is why only ethnic minorities remain.
I must be careful here, because the disgust I feel for the lawlessness that they showed, as politicians were ‘swayed’ to do their bidding, and the way these people who now live all around my home, care not a whit for the community into which they have moved.
THIS is the truth, and I can give you many local people in this community with the numbers and the facts.
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Thank you for sharing your first-hand experiences, Mrs. (or Ms.) Schwartz.
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