Veteran teacher Eileen Riley Hall has some advice for David Coleman, architect of the Common Core standards.
Coleman famously said, in taped remarks at the New York State Education Department, that
“As you grow up in this world, you realize people really don’t give a (expletive) about what you feel or what you think.”
That remark, she says, typifies “all that is wrong with the soulless Common Core standards and its rigid, test-obsessed approach to education.”
They focus “myopically on intellectual skills theoretical children should have when they graduate from high school and then builds backward. However, a good teacher, like a good parent, begins by considering the needs of the real children in her classroom and builds forward. Children are not just walking brains, but bodies, hearts and souls as well. Contrary to Mr. Coleman’s crass assertion, our children’s thoughts and feelings should be the heart of our schools.”
She offers him a few lessons, based on her many years in the classroom:
“You don’t make kids smarter just by making school harder. If you’ve seen the convoluted Common Core elementary math lessons, you know this. Dictating one method of teaching doesn’t make sense, especially when that method complicates simple lessons, frustrating the majority of students. Schools should offer students a variety of ways to approach subjects, increasing opportunities for success.
However, the suffocating standardized tests demand one rigid methodology that does not allow teachers to tailor lessons to their students. Too often, students feel like failures when they are simply not developmentally ready for material or need a different strategy. Success is motivating; repeated failure is not. Build on children’s strengths; don’t hammer them with their weaknesses.”
A happy school is a productive school. “Children are in school for seven hours a day, five days a week, for 13 years. School, especially in the elementary years, should cultivate a child’s love of learning. Yet, the Common Core scorns all the creative endeavors (music, literature, art) that inspire students to imagine and dream. Instead of poetry, we now have technical reading. Imagination may not be quantifiable, but it keeps kids invested and ultimately yields far more impressive results than relentless test prep.”
What if all the millions now spent on new Common Core-aligned materials and consultants, new software and hardware for the testing, were spent instead to meet the needs of children? “Free lunch and breakfast programs; social workers and counselors; after-school, mentoring and tutoring programs; and smaller classes.”
If there had been any experienced classroom teachers on the committee that wrote the Common Core, these lessons might have been learned before they were written in stone and imposed on 46 states by the lure of Race to the Top gold. If the writing committee included as many teachers as testing experts, the Common Core would look very different and would not be facing massive pushback across the nation.

Very well said, and exactly what John Dewey said almost a hundred years ago. Finland was listening. Why can’t we?
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Paraphrasing Coleman: Because your silly ideas don’t count. What don’t you get? Who the hell listens to the Finns, anyway? Can the Finns topple Putin? When they can, give me a call.
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Finland successfully resisted Stalin in the Winter War, 1940!
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Stalin eventually “won” but the first Soviet attack was repulsed with the loss of 500,000 Soviet troops. Yes that is 500,000. Total dead in the US Civil War was about 600,000. Certainly this war was one which the victor would almost certainly not have initiated if the results could have been forseen. Finland ended up ceding territory to the Soviet Union but the cost to the Soviets vastly exceeded any value in their conquests.
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Once again, consider Coleman’s statement in light of the fact that our “deformy” friends send their kids to elite private schools. The irony here, of course, is that the essence of education at Dalton, Trinity, Brearley, Horace Mann and the others is to confirm in their students that their thoughts and feelings are the only thoughts and feelings that do matter in this world!
This cynicism should enrage everyone who is disgusted by these attempts to demoralize “other people’s children,” while the parents of these privileged students steal “other people’s money” on Wall Street.
Can you imagine Charles Schumer, Barack Obama, Rudoph Guiliani, Michelle Rhee, Arne Duncan, or any of the other deformers who send their children to elite private schools, telling their precious children that “people really don’t give a (expletive) about what you feel or what you think.” I can say for certain that if a teacher at Trinity told Charles Schumer’s kids such a thing, they’d be out the door before snacktime. Hell, teachers have been fired merely for giving such kids less than a “A” on a pointless essay!
Fortunately, most kids are too smart to go for David Coleman’s sucker punch. Are their parents?
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“Fortunately, most kids are too smart to go for David Coleman’s sucker punch. Are their parents?”
What if Coleman believes his own sucker punch? I don’t think hired proponents of the Core express their own thoughts or feelings in their work. It doesn’t ever seem to occur to them to think anything other than what they’re supposed to think. The (otherwise unemployable) TFA is an inspired foot brigade for Coleman’s product because they are screened for a history of shallow academic compliance without distinction.
The ethos of Common Core “literacy” is a method to crank out a few pages of shallow jargon and bullshit on command, in response to any stimulus item. The jargon has to come off the stimulus page, the assessment vocabulary is a set of cranks to generate writing patterns recognizable by a machine as compliant.
Gates ordered a product. Pedestrians like Coleman cranked it out, without bothering to think or feel about what they were doing. Stooges parrot thoughtless praise of it.
The thing that’s different about kids and parents, is that their feelings DO engage. They can’t fall for it, even when they want to, and they’re miserable.
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Coleman is a bright, and super-dutiful kid who made a killing in the tech boom. He was chosen to lead the Common Core because he was a successful entrepreneur. He brought in his best friend to lead it with him. Neither he nor any of his cronies have the least inkling of the vast amount they do not know. (Fools rush in …..)
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Harold, you said a lot there: “fools rush in”
Coleman had no clue how little he knew.
He studied ancient philosophy. Hm. That’s lesson 1 from Socrates.
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Steve Cohen: your first paragraph goes right to the heart of the matter.
So when anyone tries to argue for the same sort of educational opportunities for OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN that the leading rheephormistas provide for THEIR OWN CHILDREN—
one should expect the outrage of a Chris Christie when he is asked a ‘personal question’ about his children’s school because ‘that’s none of your business.’ A two-tiered education system that favors the advantaged [few] and disfavors the disadvantaged [many] is simply a part of the way they see the world. Hence such seemingly foot-in-mouth statements like those by Rahm Emanuel about the ‘uneducables’ or Michael J Petrilli about the ‘non-strivers.’ And they consider themselves brave for uttering such toxic nonsense.
Any wonder that so many of the self-styled “education reformers” act like bullies? And that the following makes a lot of sense about how they act?
“You have a nice personality, but not for a human being.” [Henny Youngman]
Thank you for your comments.
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My students did very well in mathematics. We had lessons to teach alternate ways to perform problems. But I always told them that they were to choose what made them confident in getting a correct answer.
Many of the convoluted ways of performing calculations simply made the process cumbersome and kids would give up. I told them to discover THEIR aha moment and use that.
Often the math processes are nothing more than trying to write down the ways in which people do mental math and doing that requires writing more down. The kids with the most difficulty completing math calculations also have issues with writing, with neatness, with steps and sequencing, with perseverance. I always told my kids the truth. I told them why we did some things, that a lot of it was stupid, and that I would not test them on doing a problem a certain way.
I also made many review questions using word problems about the students, personalizing the story to show I knew who they were, getting lots of laugh and participation because the problems were about THEM.
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A balanced approach is a good one! Creativity and imagination are two concepts that I see fading away…..kids need a little bit of a lot of things….
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Wonderful article!
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If the recent statements from inBloom are any insight into the minds of the ed. tech. industry, it is going to take a LOT more push back to get these people to realize where they have gone wrong.
They thought all they needed to do was to convince 50 governors to go along with their testing and data mining projects. But they forgot the 74 million CHILDREN whose parents and guardians were shut out of the decision making about policies that directly impact those same children. This is the worst collective corporate decision making since the “new coke”.
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Fortunately, we don’t need to convince them, Daniel. We just need to defeat them.
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chemtchr: TAGO!
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Well said, chemtchr!
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*thumbs up*
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“As you grow up in this world”
Even if that’s true, why not let children find that out? Someone gave David Coleman the time and space to reach his rather cynical and grim conclusion.
Children are not adults. What is the point of this stern insistence they “get serious” at 8, 9, 10 years old? None of the ed reformers grew up like that. Were they harmed by the fact that they didn’t understand what they perceive to be hard truths?
What is the harm of them thinking someone might care what what they think? They’re reporting for work. They’re going to school. Surely they’ll figure this out themselves if it’s indeed true. Seems like David Coleman got there all by himself.
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Alfie Kohn calls it “BGUTI” – better get used to it. The idea that whatever one might have to face later on should be introduced now so that they’ll “get used to it”. By that logic, if I plan to go out drinking this weekend, I should start hitting myself over the head with a hammer now to “get used to” the headache I’ll have later.
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What a crazy idea.
Why would we want to turn 12 year olds into cynical, grim, joyless people who believe no one really cares what they think?
I love how the adult ed reformers want to create this childhood that looks NOTHING like the way they were raised. The cheerleading when the kids were taking the CC tests was amusing. Not one of these people took a test like that at 9 years old, yet they’re ALL FOR them for other people.
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Alfie Kohn is a wise fellow
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I frankly doubt that Coleman ever learned that lesson the way that he writes about it — how did he get to be chair of the College Board? By nobody giving a fig about what he thought? In his whole life he’s never had a parent, loved one, colleague or mentor who gave a fig about how he feels?
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Coleman & the BBBclub are quite accustomed to their underlings agreeing with everything they say. The rest of us are just haters or need more time to adjust since ‘change is hard™’, you know? The arrogance and blind faith in his personal brilliance typifies Wall St. & corporate mindsets from Lloyd Blankfein (of Goldman Sachs) claiming he does God’s work to Duncan dismissing white suburban Moms’.
Every teacher knows that when parents think their child is being hurt, the CLAWS come out & stay out until the threat is gone. No amount of money, arrogance, contempt, or power will stop protective parents.
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David Coleman will never understand because he doesn’t care about anyone else. He’s only speaking from his limited perspective, because this is how sociopaths think.
And it obvious that the Common Core was orchestrated by a flock of sociopaths.
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You brought out the most salient point of Coleman and his cohorts of sickos. They are “a flock of sociopaths”. No further explanation is needed.
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I agree entirely, Lloyd. This whole approach is pathological. We have very sick people in charge.
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Read David Coleman’s own account of his childhood in this piece on the “architect of the Common Core State Standards” in The Jewish Daily Forward, “David Coleman: The Most Influential Education Figure You’ve Never Heard Of”. I think the headline speaks for itself.
http://forward.com/articles/182587/david-coleman-the-most-influential-education-figur/?p=all
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Wow, after reading that, it’s obvious that he’s punishing kids who weren’t as fortunate as he was to have the parents he had. He’s so opinionated and out of touch with reality he has no idea the damage he’s doing.
The world I grew up in is nowhere close to his. To think that this guy could have been deciding my fate when I was a child makes me angry. Instead, I was fortunate enough to decide my own fate and that road let me to who I am today. Us older Americans are lucky we went to school before idiots like this guy and his handlers rose to power.
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I just read the linked article.
David Coleman is an exemplar of the individual who is “a legend in his own mind.”
Frankly, he brings to mind the following little bit from Bertolt Brecht:
“I fled from the tigers.
I fled from the fleas.
What got me at last?
Mediocrities.”
But if a dead German guy doesn’t float your boat, howzabout a dead French guy?
“Never ascribe to malice that which is adequately explained by incompetence.” [Napoleon Bonaparte]
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Is the behavior plan used in CT to set students up to fail with high stakes tests? How bad is it in CT vs NYC? The opt-out movement needs to grow in CT so parents have a choice to refuse the data beast.
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60% of juniors opted out of SBAC in my town’s CT high school. I’ve heard that the state DoE (Pryor) instructed the school (and probably others) to have the juniors log on to SBAC and then log back off in order to show nominal “95% participation.” Most students refused to do that as well.
This is at a school in a confortable SES community.
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amen to the above.
Coleman. n. (weights and measures) Measure of co-incidence of arrogance and ignorance
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with a lot of smarminess thrown in
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Diane, thank you so much for sharing my article! And thanks for working so hard for our kids! I have written many vignettes about the real lives of my students which I would love to share with you sometime. People need to remember that teaching is about the kids! Thanks, Eileen
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Totally. Coleman should have been challenged for that comment long ago. . .the poor dear. . .his mama didn’t make him feel special and no grandmama pinched his cheeks or listened to the stories he delighted in and now an entire generation of children is being punished for what he missed out on in his own childhood. Had to have been. Or else he’s just a jerk.
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he needs him a bowl of grits with butter and pepper and someone to listen and care.
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I see that Coleman is described as “a classicist”. Did he really study Greek and Latin while at Stuyvesant and Yale? I know his CV claims that he studied English literature at Oxford and Classical Philosophy at Cambridge while studying as a Rhodes Scholar. Details are sketchy, however.
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The classicist who has reduced humane education to ticking off items on a bullet list. What a tragic irony!
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These standards were written from the wrong end. i.e. they were written by people interested in the outcome rather than the input. Rather than saying what do I know about children and how they learn, they began with a product/process and said learn it, dammit! It sounds to me a bit like potty training. Too often there is a temptation to try to push the process ahead of the readiness of the child.
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Very, very well said, never2old!
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Coleman was very fortunate to have the support of his parents. His view of what other people’s children should know and be able to do is limited to his experiences, and that’s a narrow-minded agenda. He has uttered his snarky comments and has decided that every child and teacher ought to be “deep thinkers.” He also believes religious texts have a place in the classroom? Perhaps he started with good intentions, but sorry, Mr. Coleman. Not everyone is entitled to your utopian vision of the world. But what do I know? I’m just a teacher.
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