Another public forum in the suburbs of New York City, and another nearly unanimous display of outrage towards the policymakers in New York state.
Commissioner John King has made clear again and again that nothing said at these public forums will change his course of action.
He will stick to the Common Core and the testing no matter what parents and teachers say.
And so will the Board of Regents.
Of course, this display of disdain toward the public only serves to raise the temperature, and speakers were plenty heated by the knowledge that no one was listening.
According to the report linked here,
“They’re mad as hell — and they’re not going to take it anymore.
A Common Core forum held at Eastport-South Manor Tuesday night brought out scores of parents, educators and students who echoed a common refrain of disappointment, despair and anger over a curriculum they said stands to dim the light of learning in their children.”
Many were outspoken:
“Setting up kids to fail is damaging to their self-esteem,” said Kathleen Hedder of the Rocky Point Board of Education. “How can you accurately rate progress if no one understands the rules and the game has changed mid-stream?”
Added Jan Achilich, director of special education at the Remsenburg-Speonk Union Free School District, added, “What you are doing is tantamount to physically throwing them into a rushing river without a life preserver.”
The Blue Ribbon school, she said, where music and dance have long been celebrated, is “now a place where anxiety and stress shadow our days.”
Concerns were raised about special education students who cannot keep up to a cookie-cutter standard.
Achilich asked King to reevaluate the current situation.
Others blasted King.
Julie Lofstad of the Hampton Bays Mothers Association lashed into the commissioner. “Can you explain why our children aren’t as important to you as Mattel?” she asked. The toy company, she said, recalled toys that were “potentially harmful. Why don’t you recall the Common Core? Why aren’t you willing to admit the Common Core is flawed, and needs to be fixed, or the program scrapped?”
A local school board president said,
“This is a program that breaks the children, not educates,” he said. “It is destroying our children. Allow our teachers to teach, not be proctors.”
“Shame on you,” said Chris Tice of the Sag Harbor school board. “Please tell us specifically how you are going to fix this and give us a timeline.”
King responded by saying there was a “great gap” between the evening’s conversation and what is happening in classrooms that he’s visited, where children are writing and reading more challenging texts — his words were met by a loud outcry from the audience.
The standards were adopted in 2010 and would be phased in over seven years.
“They won’t be here in 2017 and neither will you,” one audience member yelled.
John King again made clear that he disagrees with the public. They are wrong, he is right. Period. ”
He disagreed that Common Core instruction was “less joyful” and said he saw kids happy in their classroom. “Joy and rigor in learning aren’t opposites.”
The article does not mention the appearance of any members of the Tea Party or (as Frank Bruni put it recently in the New York Times) “left-wing paranoiacs.”
The speakers were parents and teachers and school board members in the local communities.

Those changes proposed by Commissioner John King sound to me like “second order changes”and that he supports the concept . . . “Irreversible”, though as “a new way of seeing things” it might be wise consider both the potential beneficial as well as the unintended and perhaps destructive consequences.
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The parody of King talking to his
staff regarding parents who resist
Common Core, or dare to opt out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OvKVkitKOgk
As relevant as ever, this takes
on greater and greater
relevance in light of King’s recent
behavior and comments.
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It doesn’t seem like much of a democracy to me.
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democracy…democracy…I’ve heard that word before somewhere, I think….
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Dienne– yes , we heard those words in a land far, far away!
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Here’s an interesting look at the relationship between poverty and academic achievement. It supports much of what you believe, but from a different angle.
http://www.urbanophile.com/2013/11/26/chicago-gentrification-comes-to-the-neighborhood-school-by-daniel-hertz/
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“John King again made clear that he disagrees with the public. They are wrong, he is right. Period. “
He would be wise to heed the epiphany that Jamie Vollmer experienced years ago when as a businessman, he was advising educators on how to improve schools as related in “The Blueberry Story” that has appeared in Larry Cuban’s “The Blackboard and the Bottom Line” and Diane Ravitch’s “Reign of Error” (p300).
“If I ran my business the way you people operate your schools, I wouldn’t be in business very long!”
“I was convinced of two things. First, public schools needed to change; they were archaic selecting and sorting mechanisms designed for the Industrial Age and out of step with the needs of our emerging “knowledge society.” Second, educators were a major part of the problem: they resisted change, hunkered down in their feathered nests, protected by tenure and shielded by a bureaucratic monopoly. They needed to look to business. We knew how to produce quality. Zero defects! Total Quality Management! Continuous improvement!
“In retrospect, the speech was perfectly balanced – equal parts ignorance and arrogance.”
Commissioner King’s vision would appear to be “perfectly balanced” in exactly the same way! It is an expression that accurately characterizes much of the corporate reform movement.
Jamie Robert Vollmer, “The Blueberry Story,” Education Week, March 6, 2002, p. 42.
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Link to Jamie Vollmer’s Blueberry Story:
http://www.jamievollmer.com/blueberries
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King and Tisch’s dog and pony show is all form – poorly done, at that – and no substance, and a gross insult to the intelligence of the parents and teachers who are attending.
Parents should take over the stage when this despicable pair show their faces, and use it as a model for driving all these vicious edu-frauds out of the Temple of Learning.
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“driving all these vicious edu-frauds out of the Temple of Learning.”
Love this!
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I thought that too, how disrespectful to those in attendance, Are there any forums left?
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Hello – A forum is scheduled for December 4th in Jamestown; however a time for the forum has not yet been released. Don ‘t you find that a bit strange?
Marge
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“Despicable pair”?
Yes, Mike Fiorillo . . . . .
Like Catwoman and Mr. Freeze with a little Imelda and Ferdinand Marcos mixed in . . . .
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Hi Diane. I was at the forum last night. I was with Dr. King prior to the forum. He was laughing, relaxed, seemingly unfazed by the importance of the meeting. Please expose/refute his touting of Tennesse and Washington, DC as evidence of reforms working. I know that those two school systems are run by former TFA alums. My research shows me those systems made gains on the NAEP.
I was also told by Regent Tilles that King and Tisch were simply shrugging of the resistance to the Common Core to “complaining teachers” and they are very defensive individuals. As I was sitting in the front last night, I saw Tisch actually fall asleep for about a minute or so. It was hilarious. I feel their strategy is to absorb the yelling, screaming and move on and do as they please.
One other note.The two administrators who spoke in favor of the Common Core last night have obviously not spoken with all of their teachers. I spoke with teachers in both districts who found their administrators comments to be laughable.
Keep up the great work!!!!
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Tennessee and DC made gains on the latest NAEP. Other states did exactly the same things and made little or no progress or lost ground.
Does NY want to be like DC? It is the lowest scoring “state” in the nation. Tennessee is struggling to make it to average. Let’s see more than a change over two years before we considering these two low-scoring jurisdictions to be worthy of emulation
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Good Evening- Does anyone know the results of the attorney general, Eric T. Schneiderman’s investigation of Pearson providing overseas trips and other perks to influence state education officials since 2008? It is my understanding that Pearson is prohibited by state law from engaging in undisclosed lobbying. Have we yet heard the results of this investigation? If not, why not ? Inquiring minds want to know.
Marge
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Did king mention that one of his “adjustments” will skim the top performing math students OUT of the 8th grade data. Every accelerated 8th grader taking 9th grade Integrated Algebra is now exempt from taking the 8th grade Pearson/CCSS test in April.
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From the link provided by GE2L2R above re the businessman Jamie Vollmer giving a speech to an audience full of school personnel:
[start of quote] “In retrospect, the speech was perfectly balanced — equal parts ignorance and arrogance.
As soon as I finished, a woman’s hand shot up. She appeared polite, pleasant. She was, in fact, a razor-edged, veteran, high school English teacher who had been waiting to unload.
She began quietly, “We are told, sir, that you manage a company that makes good ice cream.”
I smugly replied, “Best ice cream in America, Ma’am.”
“How nice,” she said. “Is it rich and smooth?”
“Sixteen percent butterfat,” I crowed.
“Premium ingredients?” she inquired.
“Super-premium! Nothing but triple A.” I was on a roll. I never saw the next line coming.
“Mr. Vollmer,” she said, leaning forward with a wicked eyebrow raised to the sky, “when you are standing on your receiving dock and you see an inferior shipment of blueberries arrive, what do you do?”
In the silence of that room, I could hear the trap snap…. I was dead meat, but I wasn’t going to lie.
“I send them back.”
She jumped to her feet. “That’s right!” she barked, “and we can never send back our blueberries. We take them big, small, rich, poor, gifted, exceptional, abused, frightened, confident, homeless, rude, and brilliant. We take them with ADHD, junior rheumatoid arthritis, and English as their second language. We take them all! Every one! And that, Mr. Vollmer, is why it’s not a business. It’s school!”
In an explosion, all 290 teachers, principals, bus drivers, aides, custodians, and secretaries jumped to their feet and yelled, “Yeah! Blueberries! Blueberries!”
And so began my long transformation.” [end of quote]
There is a vast difference between Jamie Vollmer and edufrauds like John King and Meryl Tisch: the first named was capable of actually listening to people, engaging in self-reflection, and coming to better conclusions; the latter two cannot hear and self-correct but rather are engaging in an eduproduct launch. $tudent $ucce$$ anyone?
More than three hundred years ago these folks were well described by the English clergyman Matthew Henry: “None so deaf as those that will not hear. None so blind as those that will not see.”
😎
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