Secretary of Education Arne Duncan blasted critics of Race to the Top and his “reforms” as “armchair pundits.”
Anthony Cody writes about his remarks here and reproduces part of his remarks (not the part where he boasts of his many “accomplishments” as Secretary of Education). I expect he made no reference to the high levels of demoralization among teachers and principals documented by the annual MetLife survey. But, hey, disruption is part of the plan, right? Pushing out the veterans is not counted a bad thing in Arne’s play book. He likes the nimble kids who stay two years, then leave.
Does Duncan think that teachers and principals are armchair pundits?
Does he think that researchers who have demonstrated the futility of value-added assessments like Linda Darling-Hammond (candidate Obama’s education advisor in 2008) are armchair pundits?
Does he think that researchers like David Berliner, who has studied the effects of poverty on academic achievement for decades, is an armchair pundit?
I guess he means me. I have studied the history and politics of American education for more than forty years. It is true that I believe what Duncan calls “reform” is a disaster that is demoralizing teachers and principals, harming communities, and doing incalculable damage to American education. I explain why I believe this in my new book, “Reign of Error.” I document everything I write.
I would like Secretary Duncan to explain why he thinks that more testing and more standardization and more charter schools is better than placing his bets on the research-based recommendations in my book.
I would like him to explain why the Obama administration’s education policies are so closely aligned–nearly identical–to the failed NCLB policies.
Looking for common ground.

Duncan, and then White at AEI today.
Sounds like they are becoming unhinged.
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Edlharris: pardon the impertinence, but I presume that your usual editor was asleep at the wheel when you wrote your comment.
Your second and last sentence: “Sounds like they are becoming unhinged.”
There is one word too many: “becoming.”
Always glad to lend a hand or pare un unnecessary word.
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Oy.
Thanks.
Correct as usual King Friday.
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Good catch, Krazy! But, yes, Ed, they are becoming more and more unhinged as they stick to these insane policies and continue trying to defend them in the face of all the damage being done.
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If he squeals like a pig, you must have stuck him.
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I love it!
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Dump Duncan…….as if he is qualified to evaluate anyone or anything. Abolish the Gates USDOE…it no longer supports public education. Punch out and go home Arne.
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“At the opposite extreme, other commentators declare a permanent state of crisis. They discount the value of great teachers and great school leaders, and they call for the most disruptive changes possible, with little heed for their impact on our nation’s children.”
Who on earth does he think he’s talking about? Does he not know that HE is the opposite extreme?
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Hello, Arne. Katrina, Katrina. Katrina. Katrina & New Orleans Schools. Something you said. Ring a bell?
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Has he provided any evidence for his programs/beliefs in any of his talks or writings?
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What an arrogant, ignorant dolt. Sorry – just can’t be civil about his inane remarks.
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Duncan is no Democrat — do NOT blame US for THAT…..
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Sadly, though, he is. This is what the Democrats are these days. They’re the ones selling the commons to the private sector, while the Republicans are busy shutting down the commons because it’s not being privatized fast enough.
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Repugnican Red and Dimocrat Blue are gang colors. These are two criminal gangs with slightly different notions about how to loot the country.
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Hmmm is Duncan correct in calling those who oppose his policies “arm chair” pundits??? Here is the definition of pundit ….
“an expert in a particular subject or field who is frequently called on to give opinions about it to the public …”
Thanks to Duncan, those who truly are knowledgeable on education issues are kept at arms length (even farther) lest they expose the “ed reform fallacy”! So perhaps anyone Duncan calls an “arm chair pundit” should WEAR THE BADGE WITH HONOR. Nobody could possible call Duncan a pundit.. with or without the .. ha ha ha … armchair!
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Wow! Who is he to criticize anyone about education? He is uninformed and arrogant. Those who have been and are in the trenches know the impact that this “reform” is having on morale of teachers and the future of students. Of course, there is complete disdain for schools of education, so our degrees must seem invalid, too. Who does he think he is? I am simply disgusted.
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The complete lack of self-knowledge is just stunning.
Here he is campaigning for a very divisive reformer:
http://www.examiner.com/article/is-secretary-of-education-arne-duncan-campaigning-for-mayor-fenty-1
He’s an agnostic! Just looking at the data! Uh, huh. Sure. He made up his mind a LONG time ago, and no additional or contradictory facts will gain entry.
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American taxpayers pay Duncan’s salary and fund all of his initiatives, to the tune of billions of dollars. Every single American citizen has the right to voice his or her “armchair” opinions, and Duncan should take feedback from ALL the American people seriously, experts and regular people alike. We’re supposed to have a government by and for the people.
If Duncan doesn’t think experts, public opinion, or “armchair pundits” are important, he should go work in private industry. No doubt he could easily cash in by working directly for his corporate masters, rather than doing their bidding as part of the government.
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“No doubt he could easily cash in by working directly for his corporate masters, rather than doing their bidding as part of the government.”
Nah, they wouldn’t want someone who has few qualifications for the custodian’s position. He does fine for them just where he is.
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It is so very sad that President Obama chose Arne to head his education cabinet. Obama should have seen what he did TO Chicago but didn’t so the Race to the Bottom continues.
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How do you know he didn’t see it?
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Obama and Duncan are Chicagoans and also best buds. Why would Obama not have seen what Duncan did to Chicago –as well as approved those policies being prescribed for the entire nation?
They are both armchair dilettantes.
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They are both little lapdogs for their fabulously wealthy neoliberal masters. Like good little lapdogs, they prance about under the table while their masters eat, panting with energy and constantly scanning their faces for cues on what to say and do — even when they are whining obscenely and licking their hands, abasing and degrading themselves as much as possible in hopes of being thrown a table scrap.
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Obama has long been up to his eyeballs in education “reform.” He was on the board of the “reformist” Joyce Foundation back in the 1990s.
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HAHAHA…good on the Dunce.
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Arne Duncan is the Hoopster who has a great jump shot, but who has as much credibility as an educational consultant as has Diane Ravitch as a basketball analyst. The difference is Diane Ravitch does not pretend to understand the nuances of coaching basketball.
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If he was such a great basketball player then he would be involved with playing/coaching in the NCAA or the NBA. He wasn’t that great and now we are stuck with Obama’s hoop buddy, just another well connected flunky.
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Of course he’s not a great basketball player. If he were, he would never be Obama’s hoop buddy. Cardinal rule: never beat the king, but never make it obvious you’re intentionally losing either.
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Connected flunky. That about sums it up. His only talent is the low cunning of the professional sycophant and toadie. His picture should be next to apparatchik in the dictionary.
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He’s a 2-handed dribbler.
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double entendre meant
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Well said… and as far as the Duncan/Obama buddy talk; throw in Rahm Emmanuel in the Chicago Buds Club.
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I had the other-worldly experience of seeing Mr. Duncan in his own “bubble” the other day, when he addressed the grand-opening of the U. of C. Lab Schools’ multimillion dollar early childhood center, the Earl Shapiro Hall. This 3-story, state-of-the-art facility for ages 3-7 embodies every parent’s dream: brand new books and computers in every classroom; a music room equipped with instruments; classrooms opening into lush outdoor spaces where kids can garden, frolic, and explore. Mr. Duncan said — without a hint of irony — that what these kids were getting (at a cost of $25,000 per kid per year) every child in the nation should have : the nurturing of critical thinking, creativity, and independence. Talk about denial. Did he bother to check out the public grade school a few blocks away where exploration, curiosity, and critical thinking had been supplanted by test-prep?
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SM: he has proven himself quite capable of entertaining completely contradictory ideas and behaviors.
For example, he is for, against, and somewhat for/somewhat against high-stakes standardized testing.
See his recent speech to the American Educational Research Association—
Link: http://www.ed.gov/news/speeches/choosing-right-battles-remarks-and-conversation
Yet when CA wanted to briefly suspend—in a time of severe budget problems—costly counterproductive high-stakes testing for a short while in preparation for the next round of EduHazing, he suddenly became Mr. Standardized Testing-in-Chief of the entire US of A.
Link: http://www.latimes.com/local/la-me-state-tests-20130911,0,6328045.story
But remember, he’s a man of principles even when they don’t agree with each other:
“Those are my principles, and if you don’t like them… well, I have others.”
Wish he would just stop strictly adhering to Marxist dogma.
¿? Groucho, of course.
🙂
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Is he in denial? Is he stupid? Or does he realize what a disgusting hypocrite he is, but just doesn’t care?
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Pundit: “an expert in a particular subject or field who is frequently called on to give opinions about it to the public.”
So if “armchair pundit” is meant pejoratively, as in someone who pretends to be an expert but in fact has no CLUE what s/he is talking about…..
….what does that make Arne Duncan besides a PAID armchair pundit?
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The cabana boy for Gates.
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🙂
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I doubt Dianne does much sitting, in any kind of chair, but she definitely knows what she is talking about. Come to think of it, I haven’t seen too many teachers in armchairs either… I wonder who Arne is referring to?
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The following sums it all up rather well:
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President Obama is presently lamenting that congress is holding the budget “hostage” in order to defund and invalidate the Affordable C are Act. I couldn’t agree more. However, he has supported these same tactics through his front-man, Secretary of Education Arne Duncan, when they held education hostage by withholding federal funding to school districts across the country if they did not play by their rules by implementing Race To The T op policies. What are impoverished, cash-strapped districts to do? What can they do? Before RTT , there was real choice by allocating funds and allowing districts to decide how best to use the funding for real choice. Democrat or Republican, the powers- that- be and furthest from the classrooms are making everyone cry uncle. It is a very sad state of affairs.
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It is sad.
That is the only word for it.
And I hope it gets better before too much longer.
I am tired of feeling sad about it.
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I can think of a lot of words besides “sad”. Evil is the first that comes to mind.
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excellent point, holfitrosey!!!
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“They’re not questioning” Nope, wouldn’t want that. Just be like Gordon the Goat and follow the lead goat into a tornado.
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I really think it takes being in touch with being in the classroom, or the rare perceptive qualities some have (perhaps by instinct or a better sense of history) to understand that Duncan’s reforms don’t work. He’s like an out of touch aunt, uncle or estranged parent who does not understand why the mother of a child he sent a gift to is not pleased with the motorcycle that revs like a real engine, but eats batteries, is loud, and robs the child of the creative and physical strengths of riding a tricycle instead.
He doesn’t get it.
I read about the decisions made by folks in office and I think to myself “Lord, I hope I would have had more sense than them.” But when you are in an office all day, dealing only with adults, thinking about money and politics and the adult world while protecting your image, eating lunch out, wearing dry cleaned clothing, going from meeting to meeting, how can you be in touch with what is best for children? Of course, it’s not like they couldn’t ask those of us who are in classrooms all day, thinking about children and learning in a child’s world while maintaining accountability and safety of the children, eating lunch in a cafeteria, wearing machine washable clothing, going from activity to activity with and for the children.
Oh how I wish they would have. And I pray to God I will remember this if I am ever in a position of decision making.
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Joanna,
They don’t care what we think. They do not respect our profession. They are not educators. Kids are data. Kids are props…we are human capital. This is business to them.
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“. . . if I am ever in a position of decision making.”
Something tells me that you are too wise to put yourself in that position.
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What makes you think he doesn’t get it? Did you read SM’s comment above, about his talk at the opening of the new early childhood center at the Lab School (where, incidentally, he sent his own kids when he lived in Chicago)? He gets it. He just doesn’t care, except for his own kids and those of his elite buddies. Your kids, on the other hand, can go suck eggs.
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Maybe Secretary Duncan can find “pundits” who say no to all testing, standards and improvements in teacher evaluation. I doubt that he can find anyone who says nothing should be done to improve teaching until we “fix” poverty. However, he is dismissing his most serious critics. Among them, who have written books recently, are Diane Ravitch, Michael Fullan, Andy Hargreaves, Dennis Shirley, Linda Darling Hammond. None of them say that current conditions are acceptable. None of them say that testing, standards and improvement in teacher evaluation could not be a part of a systemic improvement strategy. What they do say, is that the current use of test-based accountability, expansion of charter schools, and merit pay are not the most effective levers for improvement. In fact, they all articulate a host of different improvement strategies that have been shown in the US and around the world to produce systemic improvement. He and Diane Ravitch appear to agree on one thing– fixing schools first or fixing poverty first is a false choice. However, his critique of folks in a “bubble” notwithstanding, he appears to have taken an either you agree with my policies or you against improvement stance. Meanwhile, it is not the debate about education reform between the Secretary and his critics in a “bubble” that is distracting to teachers, but rather the pressure to worry more about bubbled answers than the strategies that at more likely produce deeper learning and real improvements in teaching.
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“None of them say that testing, standards and improvement in teacher evaluation could not be a part of a systemic improvement strategy. ”
THEY SHOULD as standards and testing are just tools for sorting and separating students according to some preconceived notion of educational “quality”.
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Can someone please print Mr. Duncan’s credentials for being Secretary of Education?
Thank you.
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He tutored in an after-school program for a while. And then he shut down that school a couple years later. Isn’t that enough?
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well said, Dienne
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Let’s see. Uh. He played basketball. He worked for his mother. And then his buddy gave him a job as Chief Executive Officer of the Chicago schools because he couldn’t be named Superintendent because he didn’t have the credential.
Arne Duncan knows about as much about education as Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church knows about quantum chromodynamics.
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Can someone please post Mr. Duncan’s educational experience and qualifications for being the national leader of things educational? Thank you.
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No! Because there are none. It’s a logical impossibility to provide something that doesn’t exist.
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You’ll be waiting for Godot if you wait for someone to post that.
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lol
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He worked for his mom for a while.
He plays basketball with Barry.
Uh. . . .
Well, that’s about it.
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And another thing . . . Now that Diane Ravitch has informed us that “the emperor has no clothes”, he is claiming that she is the one that has the vision problem!
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“I would like Secretary Duncan to explain why he thinks. . . ”
Wind up dolls only “think” when the string is pulled.
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yup
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ge2/2r (if that is your real name) you are very naive! In Germany a principal of a high school (Gymnasium) has to have a PhD in a serious academic discipline. In America the principal was a shop teacher for two years, didn’t like it, and then got type 75 at a degree mill. What is the difference? Get with the program! This isn’t Europe. This is America! We don’t worry about credentials here in this country. Duncan has a hell of a jump shot, and all Americans know that this is more important than credentials. This is why the basketball coach of a college makes ten times more than the professors. Think about it. Your values seem all mixed up. No, he never taught a day in his life. Why would he want to? That doesn’t have anything to do with being head of education does it? Don’t try to change our culture. If you want qualified people, go to Europe. If you want attitude, swagger, Facebook, and ability to bounce and throw a ball, stay in America! We can bounce those balls better than anyone else! Duncan could dribble with the best of them! He was quite the dribbler in his day. He spent a lot of time dribbling and shooting that basketball during college. Isn’t that what college is for?
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LOL
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DUNCAN is the armchair pundit! WE (educators) are in the trenches. We must be getting to him. That makes me happy 🙂 Keep the pressure on!
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SM, thanks for your report about Duncan at the opening at the new wing at the Lab school. He sends his children to a very well funded school based on the latest research showing (surprise, surprise) children thrive with play. Meanwhile, he pushes stifling no excuses charter schools for children with less means. Amazing he can not see the irony.
Do you have your own blog. If not, maybe someone with one can have you do a guest blog post on what you saw.
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Diane, I think the short answer to your question about why Duncan is doing these things is due to self-interest: All of his actions have to be seen essentially as “Resume Builders” to impress his next employer—the one he can make ultra big bucks with, “cashing in” his government time for a big ROI for the “poverty wages” he’s been getting since heading the DOE.
Will he go to work for Broad, or Gates, or Walmart or ? Who knows? But, we all know that wherever Arne goes, the bidding will start at a million or two a year, and could go much, much higher, as he undoubtedly hopes.
That revolving door of corruption in DC continues to turn and churn…
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With any luck, his future employment will involve making license plates.
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If there is any justice, Dienne. . . .
Seriously, when all this comes crashing down, and it will, one would hope that this man would be held accountable, but looking at what has happened to the war criminals who faked the excuses for going into Iraq. . . . I am not holding my breath.
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I must say–who cares what Arne thinks?
For that matter, he doesn’t–think, that is.
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Mr. Duncan is DEEPLY CONFUSED about this whole standards-and-testing approach. He doesn’t understand the details of it, and the devil is in the details. He has a very simplistic notion that one can improve outcomes by creating standards and testing achievement of them. He doesn’t understand why the new ELA standards will not improve outcomes; why the tests are invalid as measurements of outcomes in reading, writing, speaking, and listening; and the many reasons why VAM based on those tests is also invalid. All his talk about these matters takes place at a very high level of abstraction. Unfortunately, the amateurish new standards in ELA are going to have precisely the opposite effect that Duncan and his fellow “reformers” think that they are going to have. They will lead–are now leading–to the creation of incoherent curricula and ineffective pedagogical strategies that will have extremely negative effects on outcomes in English language arts education. The reasons why that is so, however, are complex. To understand them, one has to come down off the distant perch and actually grapple with how learning takes place in the various domains that the standards cover. Duncan, Achieve, the Chiefs for Change, etc., have shown no interest in doing that. They think that this is all much simpler than it is, and they have been indulging in group think so long on these matters and are so far down the path of their implementation that they cannot reverse track now. What we are going to end up with, unfortunately, is a disaster. Some actual expert vetting of the standards and of the tests would have prevented this. But we’ve had a heedless rush to implement these policies, and now we are going to have to watch as they do a great deal of damage, and then, once that’s done, everyone will be shocked, and the current “reformers” will be desperately trying to disassociate themselves from the positions that they took.
The new standards-and-testing regime is the result of a toxic combination of arrogance and ignorance.
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Pope summed up the problem well. “A little knowledge,” he said, “is a dangerous thing.” The whole standards-and-testing approach that is being implemented is based on too little knowledge of how learning actually occurs in the domains that the new standards [sic] cover and that are being tested by the new assessments, as well as too little knowledge of how these standards [sic] end up affecting, negatively and extremely, curricular development and pedagogical practices. It’s extremely ironic that Duncan would refer to critics of this mess as “armchair pundits.” The criticisms come from people who are actually informed about these matters.
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With the government shutdown, will there be enough money to recharge the robot’s battery?
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What I would really like to see is Arnie Duncan in a seventh period class, of whatever subject he could be certified in, implementing his signature policies. Only someone who have never taught in a public school could with a straight face implement race to the top. Should add, it would be a good idea if he took a tests and measurement class that might help understand the fundamental problems with ranking teachers, ranking schools, or ranking of any kind. I would add, it is extremely difficult to have a intelligent conversation with someone who lacks a fundamental knowledge of the theories, concepts, principles, of a domain they are in charge of — he is the secretary of education, not the secretary of commerce. Mr. Duncan’s elevation, both in Chicago and then to Washington speaks to how powerless the educational profession is. Our profession has been successfully colonized by business goals, vocabulary, and methods. It will take years, maybe decades to recover from the mess Bush and Obama have generated in our schools.
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Walk the talk would be good.
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colonized. precisely, sort of like what the Belgians did in the Congo
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This might not be news to Diane’s readers, but I wanted to mention that her September 30 interview on KQED’s Forum with Michael Krasny is well worth a listen. You can find it on the NPR smart phone app or listen here: http://www.kqed.org/a/forum/R201309300900
I liked this one especially because in addition to the powerful indictment of “reform” the world needs to hear, there were some fairly nuanced questions and answers.
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That interview is wonderful. I entirely concur, Randal!
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“This is not the time for armchair isolationism. This is not the time to be spectators to a slaughter.” John Kerry Syria quote from about a month ago.
Is “armchair” Duncan’s new “game-changer” buzzword for evidence-free derision of his critics? How creative!
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Good point, Greg! Your comment has me thinking that there needs to be a forum in which English teachers call politicians to account for their abuses of the language.
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Remember the first Obama campaign, the one about Hope and Change? Well, we got change alright, we got A LOT MORE of everything that the Bush administration was doing. No more NCLB. No, we got NCLB on steroids. We got inept national “standards” to replace the inept state ones. We got privatization plus. We got handing the education of our children over to a few big box providers. We got national online charters. We got the federal government as enforcement arm of the Gates Foundation’s insane “give a guy a KPI” approach to education. And don’t get me started on what has happened to civil liberties under this administration. Noam Chomsky recently gave an interview, sitting in a chair in his backyard (one of those armchair pundits, I guess) in which he said that Barack Obama was the worst thing that has ever happened to civil liberties in this country. I entirely concur.
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Mussolini defined fascism as partnership between the central government and corporate interests. Well, we have “partnership” under the Obama administration, that’s for sure. Duncan typifies this administration. They are all wind-up toys for a few business interests. What does Duncan’s office say is the justification for the new national standards?
“TO CREATE A NATIONAL MARKET FOR PRODUCTS THAT CAN BE BROUGHT TO SCALE.”
In other words, Duncan’s office is doing all that it can to further the Walmartization of U.S. education.
One thing you can say about the Obama administration, and this just about sums it up, they know who writes the non-obligatory checks to politicians. What a bunch of criminals!
That, folks, is The Story of O.
And when O retires from the presidency, he will go to his 36-million-dollar mansion in Hawaii bought for him by his new Commerce Secretary and her wealthy pals. These people have turned the United States into a banana republic.
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This is NOT capitalism, BTW. This is crony capitalism. BIG difference.
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from The Chalkface. Just about sums it up:
http://atthechalkface.com/2013/10/03/secretary-duncan-answers-critics-an-alternate-universe-edition/
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