Both Trump and Harris sought the endorsement of the International Brotherhood of Teamsters. Its board decided, no endorsement. This surprised many people, because the Biden administration was the most pro-union presidency in decades, and the Trump administration was loudly anti-union.
The Teamsters were set to endorse Biden, but withheld their endorsement from Kamala Harris. Why? Was it racism? One of the readers of the blog pointed to a story in The Guardian about Teamster leader Sean O’Brien paying $2.9 million for racial discrimination.
Teamsters in battleground states are endorsing Harris, ignoring the lead of their national union. The Washington Post reported Kamala endorsements by Teamsters in Michigan, Pennsylvania, New York, Nevada, and Wisconsin. And added: “As of Thursday, at least eight regional councils, covering active Teamsters members in some 14 states, as well as 10 union locals, had endorsed Harris. The regional councils alone represent more than 500,000 Teamsters members.
No regional or local Teamsters organizations have endorsed Trump.”
Harold Meyerson of The American Prospect has a different take.
Inside the boardroom, it was no endorsement. Outside, some of the board members endorsed Harris.
Yesterday’s headline, of course, was that the Teamsters had decided to make no endorsement in this year’s presidential race. That depended, however, on which Teamsters you’re talking about, and whether or not they were still in a meeting chaired by union president Sean O’Brien.
To be sure, the international’s general board voted by a 14-to-3 margin to affirm O’Brien’s clear preference for a position that would require the union to avoid having to campaign for Kamala Harris and against Donald Trump. O’Brien had previously given Trump a boost by delivering the prime-time address on the first night of the Republican National Convention.
But almost as soon as the general board adjourned, some of those 14, including New York’s Gregory Floyd and the West Coast region’s Chris Griswold made clear that their own regional bodies were endorsing Harris. Indeed, within 24 hours of the union proclaiming its neutrality, regions and locals representing more than 500,000 of the Teamsters’ 1.3 million members (of whom a little more than 100,000 are in Canada) announced that they were backing Harris.
Before yesterday’s meeting, the Teamsters General Board had met with Harris, Trump, and Robert Kennedy Jr. Commendably, a group of eight Teamster rank-and-filers also were allowed to attend all of those meetings, and asked questions of the candidates. After the last of those meetings, which was with Harris, those eight unanimously stated that they favored her. Their judgment, apparently, didn’t filter up to the General Board members (at least when convened as the General Board, though it was clearly in accord with a number of those members once they’d left the meeting).
In fairness, none of those eight rank-and-filers nor any General Board members save O’Brien attended his one-on-one meeting with Trump at Mar-a-Lago earlier this year.
What could have prompted the rank-and-filers and so many regional Teamster leaders to support Harris? Herewith, a few plausible reasons.
First, of course, is the general record of the Biden-Harris administration, which has been the most pro-union in American history. Both Biden and Harris have walked picket lines with striking union workers.
Second, Harris voted in favor of the PRO Act, which neither any Republican member of Congress, nor Trump himself, supported. The act would levy actual penalties on employers who illegally violate the National Labor Relations Act by routinely firing workers seeking to organize their workplace. It would also require a mediator to impose a first contract at companies where the workers have won union recognition but the employer refuses to come to terms on a contract—a very frequent occurrence, says John Palmer, one of the three General Board members who voted to endorse Harris rather than join the room’s no-endorsement majority, and has declared that he’ll run against O’Brien in the Teamsters’ next presidential election.
Third, last year, the Biden appointees on the National Labor Relations Board reinstated the “joint employer” rule, under which the major companies that employ contractors to do their core work are liable for those contractors’ labor law violations. Trump’s appointees on the NLRB had struck that rule down in 2020. Just last month, following the reinstated ruling of the Biden NLRB, an administrative judge ruled that Amazon was responsible for inflicting a host of illegal labor practices on its delivery drivers in Palmdale, California, even though those drivers (who were required to wear Amazon uniforms and drive Amazon trucks) were nominally employed by a company that had contracted with Amazon to deliver its goods. Such contractors, called Delivery Service Partners (DSPs), employ 280,000 Amazon drivers, according to a Teamster press release that hailed the administrative judge’s ruling. The release went on to note that the ruling would encourage other such drivers to vote to join the Teamsters, as the Palmdale drivers had.
And in the several weeks since then, hundreds of drivers in the New York area have done just that. Had the Trump appointees to the NLRB still constituted the majority on the Board (i.e., had Trump been re-elected), Amazon would be immune to such pressures. As O’Brien has repeatedly stated, Amazon is the union’s primary target of organizing, which might suggest that having a majority of NLRB members appointed by Harris rather than by Trump would be a matter of considerable concern to Teamsters who wanted their union and workers in their industry to thrive.
Perhaps surprisingly, one group that has not been heard from since the no-endorsement decision is Teamsters for a Democratic Union, a generally progressive group that has been around for nearly half a century. TDU first arose in opposition to the union’s then-mobbed-up leaders and has been a voice for a more democratic union since then. Well over a year before O’Brien ran and won an insurgent campaign for the Teamster presidency in 2022, he secured TDU’s endorsement, even though he had frequently attacked the group in previous years.
Since he took office, however, a number of TDU former leaders, including Tom Leedham, who was TDU’s candidate for the Teamster presidency in 1998, 2001, and 2006, and Dan La Botz, who was one of TDU’s founders in 1976, have expressed concern that TDU has become an O’Brien cheering section in return for having been given staff and secondary leadership positions. As Leedham and La Botz wrote in CounterPunch, they are “disturbed and concerned to see TDU’s recent change over the last few years as it has subordinated itself to Sean O’Brien’s administration.”
“Beyond that,” they added, “O’Brien’s gestures of support for Donald Trump and other MAGA Republicans, suggest a turning away from the democratic, egalitarian, and inclusive values that inspired TDU.”
In fairness, the current leaders of TDU have never claimed that their primary mission requires them to be Teamsters for a (small-d) democratic America.
~ HAROLD MEYERSON

That this blog’s host does not know why the Teamsters national leadership declined to endorse either Harris or Trump is yet more evidence she mentally resides in a left-wing bubble. Surveys of rank-and-file members showed that by solid majorities they prefer Trump over Harris. Left-wing media outlets have given this information little coverage, so unless people venture outside the left-wing media bubble they will be as uninformed as this blog is.
“Their poll showed that a majority of members, roughly 60%, supported Trump, while some 34% supported Harris.”
https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/elections/2024/09/19/teamsters-2024-endorsement/75283060007/
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Samantha,
Reputable sources have questioned why those polls. The poll was pro-Biden, then pro-Trump?
Watch what the locals do. In the battleground states, they are endorsing Harris.
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This is Dustin Guastella’s theory on why there was such a big difference between the in-person straw poll that showed support for Biden and the on-line and phone polls that showed support for Trump.
“This pattern itself — a wild swing from Biden to Trump — doesn’t actually tell us very much. In fact, it confirms a suspicion held among many demographers and pollsters: that engaged and active members of organizations lean to the left. Votes that take place in person self-select for the kind of people who have higher levels of institutional trust and a higher commitment to political action — that is, they select for people who seem more like Kamala Harris voters. The online vote does just the opposite.”
It makes sense to me that the more active members of the union would lean left, be more well-informed and be well aware of the pro union policies of the Biden/Harris admin.
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True. And obvious. But not to some people, evidently. Thanks for spelling it out.
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Diane: LIke when McCarthy went to Mara Lago after condemning Trump–something happens when they get alone with Trump. My guess is he threatens their children . . . but hay, that’s just me. CBK
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Never forget that he is a salesman. He could sell ice on the North Pole!
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Diane: Trump is a salesman for those who still think he’s legitimate and so wait to be suckered in.
But he is actually like the mob offering business insurance.
Like Trump tried to trade OUR U.S. military support (for Ukraine) to Zelensky for the quid quo pro of falsely digging up dirt on Hunter Biden (Trump’s political aim), Trump in fact deals in untenable trades–your soul for your life or for the lives of your family members or, at the very least, your political career.
If Trump wins, jail time or even death will be his political tool. CBK
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This condescending comment by Samanatha Johnson criticizing Diane Ravitch in such a nasty manner and attacking Diane’s credibility is exactly why it was important NOT to attack and silence people who questioned this completely non-transparent Teamster “poll” that is now regularly being cited to push the narrative that BY AN OVERWHELMING MAJORITY Teamster union members want Trump.
The “results” are simply 4 slides that tell nothing about how the poll was done, who were polled, etc.
Sean O’Brien used that poll to publicly attack and insult AOC, and O’Brien claimed that Teamster Union members in AOC’s district overwhelmingly endorsed Trump. O’Brien cited that non-transparent poll and sneeringly told AOC to “focus on her job instead of mine” to shut her up.
In another post, I linked to a 1988 LA Times story about the Teamsters endorsing George Bush over Dukakis. It ALSO cited a Teamster poll, but gave significant more information about that poll that made the results less reliable and made the Dukakis endorsements by local teamster unions far more credibly based on what members wanted.
It was interesting that one recent article did make some reference to disaffected, pro-Kamala Teamsters saying that the poll being cited about the overwhelming majority of Teamster members endorsing Trump was a poll of members who returned a ballot in their magazine, which I thought was highly unlikely, but apparently that IS how the poll was done in 1988. In 1988, the poll giving Bush a slight advantage over Dukakis, only 21,207 of the union’s 1.6 million members returned their ballot. Not reliable.
It would be nice if there was some pressure on the Teamsters to be AT LEAST as transparent about the 2024 poll as they were in 1988. It would be nice if journalists asked them questions.
And it would be nice if folks on our side didn’t help legitimize this non-transparent poll by citing their own anecdotal evidence (like the truck drivers they know are Trump supporters) and – even worse – implying that the leaders of the Teamsters in AOC’s NY district, and in Pennsylvania and Wisconsin are so corrupt that they are endorsing Kamala when an OVERWHELMING MAJORITY of the members of their local union want them to endorse Trump. Basically accepting Sean O’Brien’s word that is so because of a non-transparent poll.
It’s a sad time when it’s not possible to question the results of a non-transparent poll on this blog without being personally attacked as a stupid person who doesn’t know enough truck drivers and if they did, they would not question the poll.
My guess is that it is far more evenly divided. Not to mention that Teamsters are not all truck drivers.
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I will be thrilled to see a large proportion of Teamster locals backing Kamala, ignoring Sean O’Brien.
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Dealing with Blue Collar Trumptards frequently,I don’t doubt the results of that poll. The question aside from the legitimacy of any poll is whether leading by poll is good strategy. The question is and it is not limited to just union leadership but all in leadership positions: What should be the roll of elected leaders? In my view it is to do what they honestly feel is in the best interests of their members and for the future of the union or the Nation. It is not to bend to the whims of polling which can shift in a nanosecond. But to make the tough decisions and educate the members or citizenry as to why.
The members in turn have the option of either supporting that leadership or throwing them from office.
Imagine if Lincoln was swayed by polls or any war time president. Polls are a snapshot of a moment in time not a guide for good policy.
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Thank you, Joel, for that INFORMED reply. It’s always best to listen to someone who actually knows what the heck they are talking about.
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“I will be thrilled to see a large proportion of Teamster locals backing Kamala, ignoring Sean O’Brien.”
Diane, according to Sean O’Brien, they are not ignoring him — they are ignoring what the OVERWHELMING majority of the teamsters in their local union want, and the polls prove it.
That’s a very damaging narrative that we are conceding despite not having any transparent poll that confirms that the membership of those local unions that endorsed Kamala voted overwhelmingly to endorse Trump but union leaders are blowing them off.
Without a reliable poll, that narrative can’t be used, even if people speculate that 99% of the teamsters are pro-Trump.
Sean O’Brien’s press release and his media appearances are all about pushing the narrative that both candidates are anti-union, and an overwhelmingly majority of teamster union members want the union to endorse the anti-union Trump over the anti-union Kamala.
The “good guy” here is Sean O’Brien, standing up to pressure and saying his union will not endorse either of the anti-union candidates. He’s standing up for working people!
And the “bad guys” are those local union leaders thwarting the will of their members to endorse Kamala, the anti-union candidate their local union members have overwhelmingly voted NOT to endorse.
That’s why I don’t understand why folks are ready to concede that a poll that lacks even the most basic transparency is an accurate depiction of reality. It means that these local endorsements are spun to do more harm than good — just local union leaders thwarting the will of union members to endorse the anti-union candidate that their union members overwhelmingly oppose.
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Trump invited Sean O’Brien to Mar-a-Lago. Alone. Trump must have wowed him to betray workers.
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AFL-CIO: “Donald Trump’s Catastrophic and Devastating Anti-Labor Track Record”
https://aflcio.org/press/releases/donald-trumps-catastrophic-and-devastating-anti-labor-track-record
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Wow, Stephen. That rundown is perfect. It is exactly what is needed. Now, how to get that information out to working people across this country?
Proof that Trump is a Bullshit Artist who is NOT on the side of ordinary working people.
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Here is the existence proof. Trump is an anti-worker POS.
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Sean O’Brien is a sell-out and Trump tool, he’s a disgrace. Those teamsters who support Trump and the GOP are cutting their own throats, very sad. This is reminiscent of the union folks who supported Reagan who then fired all the air-traffic controllers.
from historydotcom: On August 5, 1981, President Ronald Reagan begins firing 11,359 air-traffic controllers striking in violation of his order for them to return to work. The executive action, regarded as extreme by many, significantly slowed air travel for months. end quote
Extreme is too mild a term, it was a vile and vicious act by an anti-union president.
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If it is true that 58 percent of teamsters support Trump, then an endorsement for Harris might cause a civil war within the union. Sean O’Brien might be a sell-out, but he might just be trying to avoid a civil war.
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Didn’t Sean O’Brien more or less risk causing a civil war by appearing at the GOP/RNC convention?
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“If it is true that 58 percent of teamsters support Trump, then an endorsement for Harris might cause a civil war within the union.”
Did an endorsement for Harris by the Teamsters Union in AOC’s district – a district that Sean O’Brien said on national tv voted “overwhelmingly” to endorse Trump – cause a civil war?
Are “civil wars” going on in any of the other local Teamster districts that endorsed Kamala?
If it is true that 58 percent of teamsters support Trump, then an endorsement for Trump by some of the local unions would be expected.
If it is true that 58 or 61 percent of teamsters support Trump, as Sean O’Brien keeps saying is true, then why would he not make the polls more transparent. We don’t even know if this poll was the mail-in ballots from the monthly news magazine, which is not a very good method of polling. We have no idea how many people were even polled or how they were chosen.
If it were true, there would be no reason to hide the way the polling was done.
Given the lack of any “civil war” when local chapters are endorsing Kamala, it seems just as plausible to assume that the polls favored Kamala or at least did in all the places that endorsed her.
Why no endorsements for Trump by these local unions where the membership is supposedly overwhelmingly in favor of endorsing Trump?
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O’Brien’s speech at the RNC was one of the best progressive speeches I’ve seen at any convention. It was not a speech of support for Trump, but rather an attack on corporations and their influence in politics. I would think he would have spoke at the DNC if they had invited him. Don’t know why they didn’t, but his speech at the RNC was so progressive that even the DNC would have been uncomfortable with it. I think it was good that the RNC heard the terms “corporate welfare” and corporatism at their convention.
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Sean O’Brien also said:
I also want to thank President Donald Trump for opening the RNC’s doors to the Teamsters Union and inviting me to speak before you tonight. [snip]
President Trump had the backbone to open the doors to this Republican convention, and that’s unprecedented. No other nominee in the race would have invited the Teamsters into this arena.
Now, you can have whatever opinion you want, but one thing is clear: President Trump is a candidate who is not afraid of hearing from new, loud, and often critical voices. And I think we all can agree, whether people like him or they don’t like him, in light of what happened to him on Saturday, he has proven to be one tough SOB. end quotes
Talk about kissing Trump’s rump.
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That’s what a trip to Mar-a-Lago did to O’Brien
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It is quite revealing that O’Brien not only insulted AOC and amplified how overwhelmingly popular Trump was among teamster union members in AOC’s own district, but he also WENT OUT OF HIS WAY in his press release to paint Kamala Harris as no friend to unions:
“neither major candidate was able to make serious commitments to our union to ensure the interests of working people are always put before Big Business”.
Huh? Really?
If this expected “civil war” doesn’t happen in the the local teamster union in AOC’s district – where Sean O’Brien says the members are are “overwhelmingly” pro-Trump but the local leadership blew them off to endorse Kamala, a candidate who won’t put the interests of working people above business – then will people believe that perhaps a poll that is one of the least transparent I have ever seen may not be quite accurate?
Or must we continue to believe that Sean O’Brien is an unbiased truth-teller? If only the Dems had put the interests of working people ahead of big business, but according to Sean O’Brien, they just won’t.
It seems pretty obvious to me that O’Brien wanted to help elect Trump even if he couldn’t come out and endorse him.
And while it would be nice to think O’Brien’s “progressive” speech at the RNC made a difference, shortly after the RNC Trump was congratulating Elon Musk for firing striking workers. Maybe that convinced Sean O’Brien that Trump was just as anti-worker as Kamala, and that’s why he didn’t endorse Trump.
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O’Brien is a liar. No more complicated than that. Anyone who doesn’t see a giant difference between R and D in 2024 is a liar. Or very stupid.
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If O’Brien is a liar, all the more reason to be concerned about the methodology used for that suspiciously opaque poll he keeps spinning that gives him credibility when he undermines Kamala and AOC. Trust, but verify.
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Is it possible that O’Brien and Traitor Trump have the same Mafia friends?
After all, the Teamsters union has had a history of ties to organized crime including the Mafia. That doesn’t mean the Mafia also has links to all the locals. Just the national.
“But the organisation in modern times has vacillated between becoming a byword for grift and gangsterism – or stagnation.”
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-60818241
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There’s no such thing as the mafia.
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LOL. Yes. And Donald Trump is a born-again Christian on the side of blue-collar working people, and Lindsey Graham is not a closeted gay guy and the Pope is not Catholic and the leaders of Canada and Europe are all shape-shifting Reptilians aliens from the planet Illuminatius in the Alpha Draconis star system and Apple isn’t selling your data and Kennedy and Elvis are still alive and plotting to rescue Americans from Marxists and Critical Race Theory, and Donald Trump is Mussolini’s grandson, and what the founders meant is that all WHITE MEN are created equal but soon sort themselves out into winners (Trump) and losers (teachers, people who die in military service, etc.), and chemtrails released by Obama are what has caused so many high-school kids to turn transgender.
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HAAAAA!!!! That’s awesome.
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It is encouraging to see regionals and locals endorsing Harris.
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Nate Silver is saying today that the race is pretty much tied and that Trump could well be president again.
What a nightmare.
Oh, and De Nile is a river in Egypt.
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It’s seemed like a coin flip the whole summer to me and I think it’ll feel like a coin flip on Election Day.
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I hope that we are wrong, Flerp.
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FLERP,
Politico says the election will be decided in three states: Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia.
Mark Robinson is likely to flip NC to Harris.
Given what we know with Trump, it should not be close. But it is.
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Take a look at what’s happening in Nebraska right now.
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had lunch with a former student who lives in Nashville. We talked politics some after birding. When she got home, several lawns in her yard had sprouted Harris/Walz signs. It strikes me that this election has produced more people even in red Tennessee who want to put up a sign. The intensity formerly reserved for Republicans seems to have been matched in places with enthusiasm for democrats.
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Teamsters Local 2010 has expressed its strong support for public educators. I wish that the NEA and AFT could successfully bargain for the benefits that Teamsters enjoy in retirement. It’s about time that unions were more loyal to workers than to corporate sponsored political parties. We need a pro-labor political party.
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NYC has the Working Families Party. But they actually look out for workers (which often means also endorsing Democrats) so you might not approve. The WFP is very different than the Teamsters, who – if polls are to be believed – would definitely sacrifice the right to form a union and the right not be fired if they strike and sacrifice their union pension fund because supporting a candidate who shares their Christian white supremacist values is more important than any union job, union benefits, or union pension. Sometimes its a dilemma as to whether a union should be loyal to the idea of a union, or to their union members who believe that Christian values are more important than any union continuing to exist.
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Teamsters 710 by Chicago endorced Kamala. My son works for UPS.
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Wonderful!
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