Glenn Youngkin, the Republican who won the race for governor in Virginia, centered his campaign on education, specifically on his insistence that parents should have the right to determine what their children learn and on his promise to ban “critical race theory” in the state’s public schools.
The second part of the promise should be easy, because Virginia public schools do not teach “critical race theory.”
Youngkin ran a commercial on his behalf that showed a mother complaining that her son was compelled to read Toni Morrison’s Beloved, which upset him.
What the mother did not say was that her son was a senior in an AP English class where he should have been expected to read the work of a Nobel-Prize winning author.
What the mother did not say was that her son’s discomforting experience occurred a decade ago.
What the mother did not say was that her son went on to have a successful career in the federal government.
A recent article by an African American columnist at the Washington Post contrasts this young man’s experience of Beloved with her own. She too was deeply disturbed by the book.
“Having read it, I can confirm that “Beloved” is an intense, at times frightening book.
“Toni Morrison’s Pulitzer Prize-winning novel has sex, violence, mention of bestiality. It centers on the story of a mother who kills her own child, desperate to ensure the infant won’t have to experience the horrors of slavery as she did. It’s visceral, and haunting, and deeply sad.
“But then again, imagine how enslaved people must have felt to live it.
“This exercise in empathy is, presumably, what is meant to be taught in an Advanced Placement English Literature course for 17- and 18-year-olds — which is where it was situated in the Virginia curriculum when Laura Murphy, the Fairfax County mother prominently featured in a viral campaign ad for Republican gubernatorial candidate Glenn Youngkin, began to complain about it.
“In the ad, Murphy describes being horrified by the “explicit material” after looking at her child’s reading assignment. And indeed, in 2013, her son — who was by then a 19-year-old college freshman — told The Post that the book was “gross” and hard for him to handle. “I gave up on it,” he said.
“His mother tried to have the novel banned from county schools. Having escaped the hardship of thinking about slavery, the younger Murphy went on to clerk in the Office of the White House Counsel during the Trump administration and is now a lawyer for the National Republican Congressional Committee.
“I was also asked to read “Beloved” in a high school English class, also in Virginia — Richmond, to be precise. It was a hard read. You felt bad. It was also an illuminating corrective, studied against the Virginia backdrop of Robert E. Lee worship, Stonewall Jackson fetishization, and the plantations where enslaved people, we heard in our history classes, worked mostly happily for noble, caring masters.
“The novel taught me the power of literature, how words could transmit deep emotion. It did keep me up at night, because I was grappling with the pain of another person, wondering how someone could get to such a place, how people could do these things to one another. The gory details of the book fled my mind in the ensuing years. But the feeling — I never forgot it.”
Isn’t that what great literature is supposed to do?
So, now we know that Mrs. Murphy’s son couldn’t bear to read Beloved, but it didn’t cause him any harm. Other students, however, learned from it, experienced it, and treasured their experience.

People who want a cover for their racism will always find one.
I don’t think it’s necessary to get over-analytic about it.
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CRT Is The New Willie Horton
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Beloved was one of the most impactful books I read about slavery during my teens. Like many literary masterpieces it is unsettling. But as you said great literature is supposed to be unsettling. It is supposed unsettle your predispositions, unsettle and change your knowledge, unsettle your mind to create change. In my high school, I was lucky enough to have teachers that fought against and around the curriculum and “banned books” to ensure that students still read books like Beloved, I Know why the Caged Bird Sings, and more.
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Great literature is supposed to make people think and feel. That’s one reason it is great literature. People cannot always be comfortable, and sometimes the discomfort is the path to growth and understanding. The media are claiming Youngkin won because people are concerned about their schools. The force behind the storm has nothing to do with the schools. It is the billionaire dollars behind the disruption that spread lies and disinformation to uninformed voters. Attack parents are the pawns of the 1%.
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Virginia was disgusting and so is the following. Texas School Board Hijackers.
“Several school board candidates in the Houston region won their races decrying so-called “critical race theory” and touting conservative and religious values for positions that are traditionally nonpartisan.
The winning challengers, backed by right-wing political action committees, in Cypress Fairbanks ISD ousted longtime incumbents. One candidate in Klein ISD won a six-person race with the same strategy. In the HISD race, at least one candidate who has expressed dissatisfaction with HISD’s mask mandate and “CRT” forced a runoff.”
https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/Conservative-Houston-area-school-board-candidates-16590322.php
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Peter Greene has an excellent, insightful post on the propaganda campaign against public education. http://curmudgucation.blogspot.com/2021/11/more-rough-days-ahead-for-public-ed.html
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“Maurice Cunningham, a political scientist who studies dark money’s influence on education policy, wrote on about groups pushing attacks on critical race theory on education activist Diane Ravitch’s July 31 blog. Cunningham examined the creation, funding, and promotion of supposedly grassroots parents’ groups like Parents Defending Education, No Left Turn in Education, and Moms for Liberty, which count on right-wing media outlets to amplify their allegations. The groups are targeting K-12 educators with tactics honed by attacks on college professors. Parents Defending Education, for example, encourages activists to create websites designed to encourage anonymous complaints about “woke” educators.
The Leadership Institute, which is offering trainings on taking over school boards, runs a project called Campus Reform, which encourages conservative students to “expose the leftist abuses on your campus.” Campus Reform’s website currently features a map tracking state-level efforts to “purge their education systems of critical race theory.”
The Leadership Institute’s funders include a who’s who of deep-pocketed foundations that have helped build the nation’s massive right-wing political and policy infrastructure at state and local levels, including the Ed Uihlein Family Foundation and the Bradley Foundation.”
https://flux.community/peter-montgomery/2021/08/right-wing-groups-training-activists-take-over-school-boards-part-critical
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I think, however correct the analysis above is, that we’re missing the forest for the trees by focusing on CRT. It is, for the Right, a rhetorical political device intended hold on to power by dividing people in perpetuity. If it were not CRT, it would be something else (see Willie Horton, national education standards, gays in the military, terrorists around every corner, gay marriage, transgender bathrooms, and all lives matter for further proof). It is a tactical tool intended to occupy time and energy to distract the opposition.
The real story, in my view, is the refinement of the Duke Effect. Here are some preliminary numbers that should be sobering: the turnout in Virginia was higher than 2020 and McAuliffe sounded a lot like the idiot when he said Dems got 60k (or was it 600k? It’s irrelevant either way to this argument). The point is, many, many, many white voters–and probably many black and Latinx–used the excuse of “the economy” to vote for fascism. They don’t need much, any excuse that gives them an out they will take. They will bemoan the state of the world, kinda blame the Idiot, and once the curtain closes, then they vote right down the line to support that which they profess in pulbic–or more often than not, “I don’t pay attention to politics.” This is about solidifying racism as official government policy, rigging the rules so that the winners have no chance at losing and the losers have no chance at winning.
So what’s the end game here? It’s pretty easy to see. It’s China. Political repression, a police state, political favoritism with economic benefits–pretty much like the U.S. now but on deadly (for minorities, political and racial) steroids–but with a “free, untethered economy,” which in reality is a rigged game for the few. CRT is just another issue filled with misinformation, designed to distract. And they’re so close now. They’ve been winning on their interim goal through the refinement of subliminal (or at least what the true believers want to claim it as being subliminal to “outsiders”) messages of racism : the virtual rebuilding of congressional leadership so that it only rests in the hands of a few and then causing gridlock, getting voters to blame Democrats for it, and then sit back, come up with more stupid stuff that distracts enough people, and continue to rewarded for it. The results in Virginia are further proof of that for me.
I think about that the few times I’ve driven through Prince William County with its spread out gated communities, with no threats of criminality whatsoever. They pay a lot to live in large, comfortable houses behind fences and walls with private security guards. What are they afraid of? They tell us the truths they’ve been trying to hide when they step behind the curtain to vote. To vote in elections that they will claim are surely rigged if their position loses. One more bit of distraction.
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Well stated .
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Precisely. CRT is an issue that will last until another distraction arises. Just like Communism was an issue for Joe McCarthy.
“…the virtual rebuilding of congressional leadership so that it only rests in the hands of a few and then causing gridlock, getting voters to blame Democrats for it, and then sit back, come up with more stupid stuff that distracts enough people,”
Case in point: Cruz is blocking almost all staff appointments so that the Biden administration cannot send diplomats into the proper places to develop policy.
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“This is about solidifying racism as official government policy, rigging the rules so that the winners have no chance at losing and the losers have no chance at winning.”
Thank you.
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GregB,
Excellent points. But are you sure that the turnout was higher than in 2020?
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^^sorry, just checked and over 1 million more Virginians voted in 2020 than this year. I think the lack of turnout was also an issue.
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Thanks, I should have checked. My wobbly source was hearing McAuliffe claim he got more votes than any Democrat ever. Perhaps it was turnout compared to the last gubernatorial race.
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GregB
He got more votes than Northam in 13. But that is not the issue .
Republican turn out in this off year election was 85% of the Presidential race in 2020 . A race that saw record turn out for both parties. Democratic turnout was 66% . The fact that these turn outs are at record levels reflects who was more motivated . That is it end story.
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Make that 17 not 13
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Shhh…don’t tell this mother that Mother Goose Nursery Rhymes are really political commentaries of the time. She and the GOP would work towards having Mother Goose Nursery Rhymes banned, too.
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Fights over reading lists and curriculum are nothing new, but this is more than that. What we’re seeing is a multi-coalition backlash against politicization of education that has been going on for decades but has accelerated in the last few years. Covid lit the fuse. If you think this is about racist parents not wanting their kids to read Toni Morrison, or about Trump, you’re missing the forest.
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Flerp
The forest is full of racist trees and that is exactly what this is about.
You think this is about people who would take horse dewormer rather than a vaccine. You think this is about moral values in people who vote for Pedophile rapists and wife beaters repeatedly(Trump , Moore ,Gates …. ) . You think this is about abortion for people who care about the unborn but not the infant .
I missed nothing . I think this election was about 85% of Trump voters motivated by hate turning out to reverse the defeat in the election of 2020 and only 66% of Biden voters. As the election of Jones in Alabama and the 2018 mid terms was about energized democrats . There was no ground swell shift in the electorate. 7% more white women Republicans and independents did not vote for Youngkin than voted for Trump . 7% more White Female Trump voters voted . There was a shift in who turned out .Driven by the Democrats failing on every front from rescuing Democracy with prosecutions of insurrectionist terrorists, to passing voting rights, to providing popular economic programs .
This election was about Pizza Gate, Pedophile Democratic rapists funded by Jewish money from George Soros chasing the good people of Virginia with space lasers as much as it was about a book that was never read or a trans rape that would not have been defined as a rape
by the the last education secretary.
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Where does Chris Rufio and Fox News fit into this “multi-coalition blacklash?”
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Roy,
And do you have a clue about what flerp! is talking about? Because I don’t. What is this backlash that includes Chris Rufio and Fox News against?
Typical right wing propaganda that means nothing — “politicizing education”. How outraged are you that teachers and public schools have been doing nothing but “politicizing” education? It’s just appalling how much education has been “politicized” by bad people who don’t understand that white people who say they aren’t racist are never racist – they just know when a book like Beloved must be banned from high school AP classrooms because they are smarter than the rest of us.
Whatever it is that flerp! means by “politicization of education”, I’m sure it’s very important and flerp! is much too busy to have to explain to little minds like ours.
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FLERP is right. Those who insist there’s nothing to this infusion of Kendi-ism into public schools are either ignorant or disingenuous. Here in CA teacher conferences are full of CRT inspired equity sessions. I attended one put on by three LA teachers who were very open about how they were using their history classes to create social justice activists. Ubiquitous diversity trainings are dripping with CRT. Our district is currently being forced by woke state bureaucrats to give teachers five whole days of diversity training because we’ve “overidentified” African American kids for special education (it doesn’t seem to matter that this only involved a small handful of our staff; the whole district must receive this reeducation). And it doesn’t seem to matter that special education means a lot of extra help –which is what I thought equity advocates actually want. It also doesn’t matter that many of us, myself included, already discriminate in favor of black students by giving them more attention and extra help. No, we’re all guilty of “implicit bias” —because Ibrham X. Kendi said so. The trainings, developed by a Berkeley outfit that is an ardent advocate of CRT (it’s all over their website), The trainings include questions such as “What are the challenges of leading yourself/colleagues/organization to the 4th level of social action?”. Yep, we’re all supposed to be activists. Another question: “How do you define yourself racially or ethnically? How do you think this aspect of your identity informs where you are on your equity journey?” Yes, teachers have to be on an “equity journey”. It’s not enough to be good teachers who are sensitive to minority students’ needs and to avoid discrimination. We must be activists committed to the equity project.
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Wow, how dare a school district not simply take the word of teachers that they are so sensitive to minority students’ needs that they are absolutely outraged at the very thought that they could have any implicit bias at all!
How dare anyone accuse them of implicit bias when they know what they know and anyone who tries to make them consider their own implicit biases needs to be banned from school forever.
We all have implicit biases and the people who deny this are most in need of training. Sadly, I do agree with you that when you have a lot of teachers who are positive that everything they do in the classroom is perfect because they are “sensitive to minority students’ needs”, then it is clearly a waste of money and we should just let those teachers continue on their own person journeys to sainthood.
Just like police are also perfect because they tell us they have no biases at all.
Fortunately, I think the younger generation isn’t afraid to admit to implicit biases and try to address them, instead of insisting that as white liberals they are perfect and should be treated that way.
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NYC psp, so you do not think Ponderosa brought up a valid issue about yet some more extra training for our less than perfect teachers?
These trainings, in which more and more we have to go through at universities, remind me very much of the Marxist-Leninist trainings we had to undergo during communism.
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Sure, I may have implicit biases, but how do the state bureaucrats know that? What if I’m biased IN FAVOR of black students? Wouldn’t it then be absurd for me to be ordered to undergo five days of training designed to root out invidious biases?
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Perhaps on aggregate those who consider themselves to be “good teachers and sensitive to minority needs” may not be who they think they are. Thus programs are designed for the aggregate not the individual
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Ponderosa says: “Sure, I may have implicit biases, but how do the state bureaucrats know that?”
How do they know you don’t?
Since when is education about you as a teacher deciding what each student has not yet learned and then telling all the students before each lesson who you believe know the material that they can take out a book and read or play a game instead?
On the contrary, you assume that just because they know some parts of the lessons, that if they come with an open mind instead of having the attitude of “I already know American history, there is no need to listen to anything Ponderosa says in the classroom”, they will get something out of your class.
And the students who come in being certain that they already know American history who have a closed mind will learn very little. Just like white teachers who are certain they are “sensitive to minority students’ needs” and don’t need to stinkin’ bias training will get very little from it.
That’s not to say that there are likely flaws in some of the ways that some diversity sessions are taught, just like some history teachers don’t teach history very well. But people who don’t want students to learn history and are looking for an excuse to stop kids learning history use examples of teachers doing a bad job teaching history as a reason to stop teaching history in high school.
The people who actually value the teaching of history, and the value of diversity training, start with the premise that having it is a good idea and try to make it better. They don’t use the fact that there are times that the teaching of history is poorly done as a reason to ban the teaching of history. Same goes for diversity training.
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The DEI industry is an infinite-power conveyor belt of horsesh!t. It’s Human Resources masquerading as professional development. I was very interested in “implicit association tests” when I first learned of them in the late 90s, and I took a bunch of them. The results were all over the map. The psychologists who came up with the concept have stated that it has no use in predicting real-world bias. But the horsesh!t will march on, because (1) there is an industry whose continued employment depends in part on pretending it’s useful and important and (2) there are legions of idiots predisposed to gobble it up.
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Just guessing here – you’re a white guy?
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Flerp
Just how big is the DEI industry ? How does it compare to the Right Wing Oligarchs their Think Tanks. The media complex they own that pedals the culture of White rage .
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Trying to figure out why a lawyer assumes that bias training for TEACHERS who spend their days teaching children of different races should be a “human resources” issue (because children are apparently now “employees”???) and not professional development.
Students in public schools are not “employees” and educating teachers to think about implicit biases they may have when they teach children is not a “human resources” issue.
I took a boring college history class in the 1990s, so I say the study of history is useless! Useless! But this history crap will keep marching on because (1) there is an industry whose continued employment depends in part on pretending it’s useful and important and (2) there are legions of idiots predisposed to gobble it up.
Do I sound smart now?
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And what the heck does “predicting” bias mean? Kendi isn’t about “predicting” whether someone will be biased or not. It is about getting students and teachers to think about their own implicit racism.
But I bow to those who are absolutely certain there isn’t a racist bone in their body, just like the police say after they accidentally (but justifiably in their mind) kill an unarmed black man who just happened to look more dangerous than the unarmed white man they didn’t kill when that unarmed white man went to reach for his drivers’ license when the policeman asked to see his license and registration.
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NYC psp, how much sensitivity, racial bias and other training is appropriate for a teacher?
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Joel –perhaps. But who knows? Do the state bureaucrats and diversity consultants have special powers of insight into our souls? It seems we’ve been found guilty without a fair trial. This may be “social justice” but it doesn’t seem like justice to me.
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Mate asked: “NYC psp, how much sensitivity, racial bias and other training is appropriate for a teacher?”
I give up. How much sensitivity, racial bias and other training is appropriate for a teacher?
All I can say for sure is that I don’t think the answer is “zero” over the 20 or 30 years of their careers, because teachers have already explained that none of them have any biases that need to be addressed.
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Ponderosa,
I find it very odd that you seem to equate Kendi and diversity training with “It seems we’ve been found guilty without a fair trial.”
This is what the young people get that you don’t. Acknowledging that you have implicit biases doesn’t mean you have been “found guilty”.
Do teachers assume that teachers who participate in professional development are clearly subpar and inept teachers?
The best teachers I knew liked professional development (if it was done well) because they wanted to become even better teachers than they were.
Doctors do professional development and we don’t assume that it’s because they are all “guilty” of being lousy doctors.
But I can’t say I have the greatest perception of doctors who say that they are far too good to ever have to learn anything else about medicine once they finish medical school. On the contrary, that is exactly the type of doctor I want to stay away from.
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“Acknowledging that you have implicit biases doesn’t mean you have been “found guilty”.”
Well, yes, and the punishment is training. These trainings are tools of bureaucrats, so that they can say “we did our part, we offered these trainings”. Otherwise, they are useless—and they make everybody participate.
You, on the other hand, talk about trainings as if they were the solution to problems, and you assume every single teacher has this problem, such as Ponderosa somewhere in California, a few thousand miles from you.
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By the way, I am sympathetic to the idea that some of the diversity training is lousy and useless. But I wish this discussion was about how best to approach diversity training and good ways of educating teachers about implicit bias, rather than rejecting wholesale the very idea.
I think Kendi is right about how we all need to unlearn some of the biases we have. I wish this conversation started from that premise, and discussed some good ways to address that.
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“I think Kendi is right about how we all need to unlearn some of the biases we have.”
It cannot start with the assumption that every teacher has these biases, and hence whatever solution to this “problem” you come up with, everybody has to participate in it. Such solution is both brainwashing and punishment, neither of which is acceptable.
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Mate,
I did not say every teacher has these biases. I said every person does. Kendi talks about how he has them.
But your argument is what? Do nothing? “Test” for biases and send the teachers who have them for training? Do teachers “test” for reading and once a kid can read, stop teaching?
This is about education. Educating teachers to understand how we all have implicit biases and how that might affect students. Thinking about expanding the curriculum because what I learned in my history class 40 years ago was insufficient. Not necessary, you say?
If you can’t even acknowledge there is a problem, and that schools would be better if teachers understood that their own implicit biases and the implicit (and explicit) biases in the choice of textbooks and literature that they might be reading, then no point in continuing this conversation.
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I understood what you were saying: send all teachers to training so that they see the light in something you find important. My point: don’t do that, since training is a punishment and a large number of innocent people get punished; in fact, they have been punished for many years.
You got on Ponderosa’s case without knowing anything about her views. My suggestion: calm down, and stop making general statements about teachers and what they all need to do to clean their souls.
If you still want to continue, review my opinion above about what you are doing, and then, hopefully, you realize, there is no point.
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Mate,
Your defensiveness does make me think less of teachers. I have been quite open to a discussion and you are responding in the manner that has turned parents off of unions. Do you even realize that?
We’re perfect, we don’t need to change. Got it.
I responded to Ponderosa’s mischaracterization of Kendi.
I asked how to make teachers more aware of their own biases to be better teachers and you sounded just like the police who say they don’t have to change. It’s just a few “bad apples” in the teaching ranks who are biased, right?
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“We’re perfect, we don’t need to change. Got it.”
I doubt I used the word perfect anywhere. We are talking about overworked many times over. Stop suggesting more work, more space for improvement. Your lecturing is received with the same enthusiasm as a lecture given to people stranded on an island about the importance of eating according to the food pyramid and brushing their teeth twice a day.
Parents demand teachers to refine their empathy down to the last particle without practicing the elements of empathy themselves.
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“training is a punishment”
There is something off about a teacher presenting education as a “punishment”.
My only perspective is from a parent, but the best teachers my kid had always wanted to get better. They didn’t view that as a “punishment”.
The worst ones were certain that they were perfect and never changed and were protected by the union so that they didn’t have to.
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You are not listening. Trainings are not education, they are tools of bureaucracy. They solve no problems whatsoever, they just enable managers to show the public “we did everything you told us to do”. I work at a university where I must go through about a dozen training every year. Each training is designed by some company which then make good money off of these programs.
While you are in the mood of training teachers to death, do you have statistics of the teachers who actually need the training? How many innocent teachers are you willing to send to unnecessary training? Is Ponderosa innocent or guilty? Does it matter to you?
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I am listening. I asked you to tell me how to address this, and your reply was that teachers who already knew they were perfect had no need for this, and the other ones would be fine as long as every teacher’s classroom hours were cut and they were all left to their own devices.
I think that any teacher that is certain that they have no biases is likely to have just as many biases as any policeman that says they have no biases.
We all have biases. I am sure there is lousy teacher development to address those biases, but there is also good ones.
But you are absolutely right that it is a huge waste of time and effort to give any education to a person who already is certain that they know it all and nothing will convince them otherwise. I assume you have had those students in your class.
I just don’t want those people teaching my kids. Sorry. Because the best teachers my kids had did not believe they were perfect – on the contrary, they were confident and secure enough to understand that trying to become even better was not an admission that they were bad teachers. It was a sign that they were excellent teachers.
The worst teachers believed they knew it all and wanted to teach the same way and the same curriculum that they taught 30 years ago and listened to no one but their own ego.
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And your use of “innocent” to describe teachers who don’t need any knowledge of implicit racism and “guilty” to describe teachers who do is shocking.
Teachers who want to learn more about their implicit biases are not “guilty”, they are excellent.
Teachers who insist that they have no implicit biases and refuse to even consider them because they already know that they don’t are not more “innocent” than teachers who want to become better teachers.
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” Is Ponderosa innocent or guilty? Does it matter to you?”
Innocent? Guilty? What are you talking about?
This framing is shocking.
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OK, ding-ding-ding! Time for my opinion. Caveat: I’ve read enough secondary sources to get the gist of CRT, but no primary scholarship. What I’ve read, when I can find it [not universally available], is actual schdistr policy, training description, handbook guidance. So far, I don’t recognize CRT there (regardless of what CA pubschs think they’re doing). I see ancient, warmed-over HR training for corp/non-profit supervisory level & above. Nor is E&I about studying the realities of American history (tho many showing up angry at schbd mtgs seem to think so)– it’s pop-psych. Like SEL. And kinda like the obsolete pop-economic cr*p visited on pubschs for decades now.
It’s irking but not surprising that admins have imported this stuff via corporate consultants who know zippo about kids in classrooms– but what else is new. I understand that this is a fledgling program in many districts, brought in swiftly after Floyd BLM marches, & perhaps slapped together with little vetting. OTOH, this is a pattern: ticking off a box at admin level [Here supt, you fix this social issue: that’s what pubschs are for]—who dump the hot potato in teachers laps. With neither staffing/ pay/ time in the day to implement—yet complete with monitoring/ follow-up reqts. [Didn’t we all just discuss the Jennifer González post 3 days ago?]
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bethree,
Aren’t you confusing material that is part of continuing education for teachers and what is taught to students in school?
Because the entire Youngkin campaign was based on the lie that our kids are being taught terrible (anti-white) ideas in school.
You really think that voters in Virginia – or anywhere else – care about whether teachers are getting mediocre professional training – just like those teachers have been getting mediocre professional training for the last 4 decades.
The scaremongering is like what LisaM posted in which she claimed that STUDENTS were getting some kind of dangerous CRT education. I posted a reply asking her to elaborate because despite living in supposedly woke Brooklyn, I have never once seen an example of this supposedly dangerous and horrifying curriculum.
And crickets from LisaM.
There was an anti-CRT troll who tried to get parents riled up because he wanted to ban what sounded like a fascinating and worthwhile elective ethnic studies class for high school juniors and seniors because it correctly incorporated important ideas from CRT into an excellent curriculum.
So why does this elective ethnic studies class that sounded quite rigorous and interesting need to banned?
Because some of the professional development for teachers that happens to also be about helping teachers think about their own implicit racism is mediocre?
I’m not a teacher, so maybe I am unaware of a halcyon time in the past when teachers believed that every professional development they ever encountered was fantastic.
But whether or not some schools offer mediocre canned professional development and other schools offer excellent professional development is not what this issue is about.
It is about what is being taught to students.
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flerp!,
You use buzzwords like “politicization of education” without defining them.
Should we all assume that when FLERP! says “politicization of education”, FLERP! is referring to the outrage against right wing billionaires lobbying for more charter schools taking money from public schools?
Should we all assume that when FLERP! says “politicization of education”, FLERP! is referring to the outrage that students have to take standardized tests and have their data sold to companies?
After all, what else could FLERP! be talking about when he says “politicization of education” and says it has nothing to do with white parents who want to ban Beloved from all high school classrooms, and especially classrooms where high school seniors take AP classes?
Anyone have any idea what FLERP! is talking about when he insists that the fact that a Virginia Governor campaigned on removing Beloved from AP classes for seniors in high school has nothing to do with racism at all, but is all about a buzzword that outrages parents like FLERP! — the “politicization of education”.
Is FLERP! now anti-testing and anti-charter because of how much those have been politicized?
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I love it when there is some actual disagreement and debate on this blog. Let it thrive.
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Flerp, I respect you, but I’ve tangled previously with you here. I urge you, in these fora, to be careful, indeed circumspect, about telling people they are missing the trees or the forest. It is at the very least offensive, and much closer to just plain wrong.
I’m just sayin’, you know?
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Mark, I can only say what I believe to be true.
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As long as you understand that what you believe is “true” is highly subjective–and therefore prone to error, I have no problem with that.
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“I can only say what I believe is true”.
markstextterminal,
That is the kind of response that is a red flag.
What ethical people say is “I want to defend what I believe is true by offering a fact-base argument as to why I believe it”.
Just look at how AOC offers intelligent, fact-based defenses of what she believes. But Marjorie Taylor Greene just gives the right winger’s excuse that they just say what they believe it true.
Like Trump or Tucker Carlson, flerp doesn’t defend what he says with argument. flerp just wants to post something that, as you point out, is at the very least offensive and (much closer to?) just plain wrong.
If AOC can intelligently defend her views, those on the right should be expected to do so, too, or be marginalized. And “it’s what I believe to be true” is a worthless argument. As any lawyer knows.
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My goodness, I can’t help but wonder why great writers would write if they did not write to evoke powerful emotions! It is those powerful emotions that help us, the readers, clarify our values, understand our humanity, help us make sense of our world. I once read a book aloud to my second graders and was mortified when I burst into tears. Some years later, I met one of my students who told me that experience was the first time she realized a book could make you cry. It may be the most lasting lesson I taught!! It’s unfortunate that the woman in the ad didn’t realize her son’s response to Beloved was a meaningful sign of empathy. That is a wonderful outcome in any person’s education.
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And . . . Youngkin’s kids went to private schools. I’d like to see him barge into a board meeting to insist on his curricula. St. Albans and National Cathedral School have explicit Diversity, Equity and Inclusion programs and send students and faculty to the People of Color Conference and other training addressing white privilege and systemic racism..
It is astounding – simply astounding – that a rich, white man would be such a hypocrite. Who knew?
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What are Batman’s superpowers? Well, he is rich, white, and male.
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He can also give people COVID-19.
Or is that just Bat Woman?
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LOL. You are thinking of Pangolin Man.
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But rich, white, male Batman is added by his trusty constant companion, Robbin[g].
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Batman and Robin were probably gay.
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Well, Superman is transgender!
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Superman is not transgender. In his latest iteration, he is bisexual. To be transgender, he would been born a biological female. How about the Lone Ranger and Tonto? Have you ever seen either of them with a girl?
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Ah, I didn’t read the story. Just saw a headline. Thanks for the correction! Bert and Ernie, for sure.
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So, Clark Kent and Jimmy Olsen? Now, I am curious.
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Isn’t Bat Woman married to Pangolin Man?
Or is that Civet Man?
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As you can tell. I have trouble keeping all these superheroes straight.
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Or is she married to Wetmarket Man??
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Or is her husband Cave Man?
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And all this time I thought Bat Man was saying “penguin”.
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She’s a Denisovan Woman in love with a Cromagnon Man
She loves him in spite of his great sloping forehead and the hair on the back of his hands
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Well, Roy is a poet who has been secretly passing as a mild-mannered history teacher!
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Batman and Robin were probably gay.”
Yes, very likely.
But don’t tell that to all the Evangelical Christians who let their kids watch the Batman movies.
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Q. What do you call people who are Not Actually ®acist™ but who exploit the racism in others to win elections?
A. Racists
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bingo
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Where’s the bizarro Jeff Foxworthy when you need him?
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If you think CRT is a thing, you might be a racist!
If you voted for the Idiot because of his economic plan, you might be a racist!
If you clutch your purse/check your wallet when you see a Black man, you might be a racist!
If you say you don’t see race when you meet people, you are definitely a racist.
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“Toni Morrison’s Pulitzer Prize-winning novel has sex, violence, mention of bestiality. ”
So does the Old Testament. Very upsetting reading, Imo. Ban the darn thing.
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Very good point
“If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal. If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it, you shall kill the woman and the animal; they shall surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.” — Leviticus
Whoever lies with an animal shall be put to death.” — Exodus
Presumably that means if you let your dog or cat sleep on the couch with you or (God forbid) in your bed, you (and your dog/cat) should be put down.
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Also, aren’t humans actually animals?
Does that mean only lying with God(s) is OK?
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Probably lying with robots is OK too
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Or lying with plants, or inanimate objects like rocks and boards.
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“If a woman approaches any animal and lies with it…”
Whoever wrote that must have had a pretty active imagination. I can’t even imagine what that might involve: a candle light dinner with a cat?
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Yeah, but if you lie down with dogs, you get the bonus of fleas!
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Does that mean the fleas should be put to death too?
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But if fleas are found on me, it would mean, I lied with them, so I need to be put to death.
As for plants: wasn’t it an apple which caused our banishment from Paradise? Any other danger from plants? Can my bed be made from applewood?
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It wasn’t really their fault that the human chose to lie with the dog or dog chose to lie with human.
It’s kinda like the hitchhiker who hitches a ride with a serial killer on a rampage.
The hitchhiker can’t be held responsible, can they?
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“if you let your dog or cat sleep on the couch with you or (God forbid) in your bed, you (and your dog/cat) should be put down.”
SDP, what you write upsets me very much; I don’t even wanna speculate how much it would upset my kids or my future grandkids. This kind of stuff should not be allowed to be said, written or even thought about anywhere. I am gonna contact my governor and probably Folrida’s governor as well to see what they can do about this.
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You make a good point appoint about the apple, but if we are to believe the story Adam ate the apple and wasn’t lying with it, although he might have laid (lied? lain?) under the apple tree when he ate the apple, which would probably have at least violated the spirit of the Biblical text, if you will forgive the pun.
As far as the comments about sleeping with dogs on couches and beds, I am just following Blogic (Bible logic) to it’s inevitable end.
Even though the Bible never actually mentions couches or even beds, it is certainly implied and necessarily follows from the reference to “lying” with an animal.
But I am glad you brought up these very important points.
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By the way
Who is Folrida’s current governor?
And what is his address that I might also contact him.
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There is still one remaining question regarding God’s warnings about lying with animals.
Why must the animal also be put to death as made clear by “If a man lies with an animal, he shall surely be put to death, and you shall kill the animal”
Is the logic similar to putting down bears after they eat human flesh because they have become habituated and likely will seek out humans in the future to repeat such behavior?
That would seem to be a logical conclusion, but it might be worthy of discussion to clarify God’s thinking on this matter.
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I am sure there are many lengthy theological doctorates written on this subject, as on the puzzling description of creation, almost all of which contradicts the findings of science.
I also would like to know what is supposed to be the method of putting a person or animal down. Is it supposed to be “humane” or rough to match the crime?
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Btw, on which day did God create logic?
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“Lying with animals” must have occurred frequently to merit the death penalty and to justify it by putting the warning into the Bible.
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Thanks, SomeDAM. I used to let my dog Larry jump into bed with me in the morning when our apartment was chilly. I’m doomed.
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Most people believe that Adam’s eating the apple from the tree of knowledge was the original sin, but actually it was lying with lions and other animals in the Garden of Eden.
That’s precisely why God created Eve, cuz Adam was spending all his time lying with animals, which was doing nothing nothing for the propagation of either the human species or the other animal species for that matter (lions, tigers, elephants, lizards, birds, snakes etc) .
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There may be an exception for lying with animals out of necessity.
(Eg, for Noah)
But, unfortunately I doubt “chilly mornings” qualifies .
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And Moses may also have been granted an exception for lying with camels during those long years in desert exile.
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Probably that’s the story behind blankets made of camel wool and any other wool. The history of everything is similarly sinful hence shouldn’t be taught in school or kids and their parents will feel uncomfortable.
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Something about humping comes to mind.
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Steve, now you made that word sound even more uncomfortable.
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Doing my best.
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And , incidentally, it is not well known, but the name for Camel cigarettes derives from lying with camels.
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There goes now all the books in the school library which have the word cigarette or tobacco in them.
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And that concludes today’s Bible lesson.
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It indeed was an online Bible basecamp. Thx for all the history, science, poetry, not to mention theology, you put into it. I wish all the teacher trainings were this thorough and impactful.
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Next week’s Bible Lesson
Miracles
The physics of walking on water using the Jesus Christ Lizard as exhibit A
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Spiders, even non-specialized ones like the wolf spider, can walk on water; they don’t have to run to stay afloat—they can even rest and contemplate. Very sacred animals, or at least they should be, these misunderstood and misunderestimated creatures.
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Lying in the Garden of Eden
Adam lay with monkeys
And Adam lay with sheep
And Adam lay with donkeys
Cuz Adam was a creep
So God said “All this lying
Has really got to end!”
There’s really no denying
That lying does offend”
But Adam paid no mind
To all of God’s requests
And Adam lay with swine
And never took a rest
So Adam’s misbehavior
Inspired God to act
He sent the world a Savior
And that is just a fact
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Here it is, in easily teachable and preachable four stanzas, the source of all our misery. If only we could turn back the wheels of time by 5000 years, when Adam was still flirting with all living creatures, we could perhaps persuade him to only pay attention to his own species.
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The unvarnished truth about Adam (which is related in Triple Exodus) has long been censored by mainstream religions, for obvious reasons. The Word (made flesh) has it that the original actually had full color illustrations.
(and yes, I know. I’m going to Hell.)
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Jepthtah swore an oath that led to the death of his own daughter (Judges 11 : 30-31)
This troubles me.
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The pronunciation of that name troubles me
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If it troubles you to the point of causing discomfort, consider replacing the English spelling with the Hungarian one, which is simply Jefte and pronounced as “Yefte”.
A good step in the right direction might be to replace the Bible in US schools with their Hungarian versions.
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An even better step in the right direction would be to replace the Bible with a Brief History of Time.
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The Republican Party has had decades to learn how to mislead people about abortion, about owning firearms, and now they’ve added Critical Race Theory to the list of lies and misinformation they use to fool just enough voters to win elections.
For abortion, the GOP coined the phrase “killing babies” even if what’s growing in the womb is not a baby.
“The first two weeks after conception are known as the germinal stage, the third through the eighth week is known as the embryonic period, and the time from the ninth week until birth is known as the fetal period.”
https://www.verywellmind.com/stages-of-prenatal-development-2795073
At the end of the first trimester, the fetus is as large as a lemon and is about 2.9 inches long. There is no functioning brain, nervous system, or heart yet.
“British researchers analyzed scans of the hearts of healthy fetuses in the womb and found that the heart has four clearly defined chambers in the eighth week of pregnancy, but does not have fully organized muscle tissue until the 20th week.”
“The very beginnings of our higher brain structures only start to appear between weeks 12 and 16. Crucially, the co-ordinated brain activity required for consciousness does not occur until 24-25 weeks of pregnancy.”
But what did the lying, GOP misinformation machine do? It ignored all of the facts and focused on this message: “abortions murder babies”.
They used the same technique to turn the fear of not being able to buy a firearm into the same weaponized lies and misinformation. When Democrats try to pass gun control bills that do not ban owning firearms, what does the GOP do? It OP focuses on another BIG LIE that the liberals (that are socialists and communsits, another one of the GOP’s big lies) want to take your firearms away from you and you will be defenseless against big government.
The GOP’s BIG LIES that help them win elections are based on hate/fear.
The oldest BIG LIES are:
Hate/fear of abortion
Hate/fear of someone coming to take away your firearms
The newest BIG LIES are:
Trump’s Big Lie about election fraud.
And now CRT.
When will the Democrats learn how to fight the GOP’s BIG LIES instead of floundering around in a panic, drowning, making one mistake after another?
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What about the daily content that is at the fingertips of students throughout the internet? There are countless real life stories that are horrific. Should we ban the internet in the public school system?
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Look, the Youngkin “model” – used in Virginia – is nothing new. Republicans have been doing this — lying and playing the race card — for fifty years. Nixon did it with his so-called Southern strategy of directing his “law and order” campaign at Black protesters. Ronald Reagan made up a lie about a Black “welfare queen” ripping off everyone else, and them gave big taxpayer subsidies to corporations and the rich. George H.W. Bush used the Willie Horton ad to gin up racial fear and animosity, and Glenn Youngkin lied repeatedly and egregiously about Critical Race Theory and “parents rights” – though to be fair, he did in in multi-colored fleece vests. The ginned-up racial fear worked, especially among low-education whites.
Exit polls showed that Youngkin won 62 percent of white voters, and 76 percent of non-college graduate whites. And Youngkin got way more of the non-college white women votes (75 percent) than McAuliffe.
As Larry Sabato, UVa government professor and political analyst put it in describing the Youngkin “model”:
“The operative word is…race. That is what matters…There’s a lot of…white backlash, white resistance, whatever you want to call it…We live in a post-factual era.”
We live in a world where a racist and a proven seditious traitor is the leader of the Republican Party, where members of that party reject science and medical expertise and complain of being “victims,” and in a world where lots of “very fine people” pledge their allegiance to fear and hatred and authoritarianism, and call themselves “patriots.”
We live in a democratic republic whose very health is threatened by these “very fine people.”
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“The second part of the promise should be easy, because Virginia public schools do not teach “critical race theory.”
The MSNBC talking point… that unfortunately isn’t true.
It’s on the their website: https://www.yahoo.com/now/virginia-dept-education-website-promotes-212129317.html
And in memos:
https://christopherrufo.com/mcaullifes-crt-lie/
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The next time people complain that a school is “teaching creationism,” they should be totally satisfied when they’re shown the syllabus and there’s no course called Creationism 101.
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This is absurd. If you and flerp are too ignorant to understand the difference between ideas that inform teaching and subject matter taught to students, that speaks for itself.
The next time parents complain that a school is “teaching Creationism” because there was a memo sent out years ago that talked about including discussions of the various religions in American history, our resident CRT scaremongers here can express their outrage that Creationism is being taught and flerp will make his usual argument that the only evidence he needs to support this parent’s outrage about Creationism being taught in his child’s class is this old memo. Given how much weight flerp gives to such evidence, he would want that teacher fired because of the memo.
I’m trying to imagine how right wing someone has to be to believe the lie that there are parents who complain of their children learning “Creationism” who cannot give a single example of their child learning “Creationism” but do have a memo from years ago. I cannot imagine how right wing someone has to be to amplify the lie that a parent who found an administrative memo that talked about including a discussion of what the various religions are and insisted that meant that schools are “teaching Creationism” would be taken seriously.
On the contrary, those parents would be marginalized, just like these two right wing anti-intellectual commenters should be.
You both must think that first and second graders in public schools are taking Algebra and Geometry classes because you found an old memo somewhere on a district website about how to incorporate some ideas from algebra and geometry into early math lessons.
I realize that you both believe that the snowflake white children you know suffer severely from white fragility in which learning anything about racism in America harms them forever.
The irony is that it isn’t the students who are snowflakes, but their parents are.
Ban Toni Morrison from high school AP classes to make flerp happy. Maybe you will get your wish, flerp.
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Why would Matt Metzgar repeat lies?
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A more complicated and multi-layered analysis by Matt Taibbi. https://taibbi.substack.com/p/the-red-pilling-of-loudoun-county
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Any argument or program which aims to tell teachers what more they need to do is completely misguided. Teachers in this country are way overworked, underappreciated, controlled. Cut teaching load by 40%, think about how to meaningfully value work in education, give educators the freedom in the classroom, and things will automatically (some might say, miraculously) will workout in schools, most problems will disappear.
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You have some spot-on comments above, especially this one: “Trainings are not education, they are tools of bureaucracy.”
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Since you are a lawyer who is so strongly opposed to continuing education, are you also fighting against these horrible and burdensome requirements for lawyers? And are you outraged when the NY State Bar mentions “skills” because using the word “skills” is bureaucratic?
From the NY State Bar Association website:
New York CLE Requirements
Experienced attorneys must complete a total of 24 accredited CLE credit hours during each biennial reporting cycle (the two-year period between your attorney registrations).
Are you also fighting to end CLE training in the legal establishment, or just in public schools, flerp?
I think you could help Mate a lot by explaining how the NY State Bar identifies the “guilty” lawyers who must attend this training and the “innocent” ones who don’t have to because they are “innocent” of needing any further education or training.
Or maybe you agree with Mate’s position that if lawyers just worked a lot fewer hours, they would be more ethical.
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Is “professional development” tools of bureaucracy, too?
Police in this country are way overworked, underappreciated, controlled. Give police the freedom to police and things will automatically (some might say, miraculously) work out in communities, most problems will disappear.
No doubt you would stay far away from any doctor who thought so poorly of his own abilities that he wanted more professional education.
I stay far away from any doctor who said whatever he learned in medical school was enough for him.
Things change. They change in policing. They change in medicine. They change in education.
“Training” “Education” What is with those semantics? Is professional development “training” or is it “education”?
When a hospital learns that doctors are giving a lot less pain medicine to their non-white patients than they are to their white patients because of their implicit biases, they can either do something to address this, or decide that since it isn’t hurting white patients one bit, they should just cut the hours that doctors work because that will help them actually treat patients who aren’t white the same way they treat patients who are.
It is shocking that a few days training is considered too burdensome for teachers!
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Teachers are not lawyers, policemen, and not even pilots. False equivalences are meaningless.
Trainings could be useful for some professionals, but in my experience, those for educators are usually a waste of time. When teachers are not overworked, they voluntarily spend considerable amount of their free time to update their knowledge in their subject and in teaching methods. People, in general, do not get into teaching for the money.
The value of the sort of training you are advocating has questionable value even for well rested teachers.
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I hope you read the comment in a different post by one of your kindred spirits — an outraged teacher who clearly agrees with everything you say:
“I was told by my principal that the Joy Hakim”series of American History books, “A History of US”, didn’t meet the district’s diversity, equity, and inclusion standards…I was also told that the chapters were nationalistic and were too slanted towards American exceptionalism. To me, this series gives a voice to all, and among other great qualities, shows how America has made mistakes but is striving to make ‘a more perfect union”. Talk about attacking your allies….”
FYI – there are quite a few offensive passages in those books that this white non-racist teacher was either obvious to or decided that because she wasn’t bothered by them, they shouldn’t bother anyone else.
That teacher badly needs some kind of “training” or “teaching” or whatever you want to call it. But if you agree with this teacher’s POV, then that speaks for itself.
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“That teacher badly needs some kind of “training” or “teaching” or whatever you want to call it. ”
So let’s send all teachers to training—training you know nothing about. If this won’t work, let’s send them all to prison, because that’s know to work in every situation and for everybody. Just a bit. Those guilty closet racists. I mean something needs to be done because I am very upset now.
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^^”oblivious” (not obvious)
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Mate,
Let’s do it your way. Let’s do nothing.
That has worked really well to address the implicit biases in policing.
Why even waste taxpayer dollars on any professional education?
Now that teachers have informed parents of how worthless it is, I will oppose all teachers unions that aren’t fighting to eliminate all professional education.
Any union that keeps professional education and pays teachers to waste their time laughing through a useless course is corrupt and must be eliminated.
Is that good for you?
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If Toni Morrison must go, it seems to me William Faulkner should follow. And hell, while we’re at it, let’s just proscribe modernism altogether. If we’re going to be stupid, then let’s go whole hog; no point in half-measures. In fact, let’s just have kids read Hallmark cards all day.
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Well, the concerned states could pick a cut-off date for “unacceptable” literature, say, 1900.
But there would still be problematic books, including the Bible.
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Well, there goes Sophie’s Choice …
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