Writing on the leading news site for New York City Parents, Leonie Haimson explains why about 20% of parents in New York State have refused to allow their children to take the state tests.
The most important reason is that the tests have no value for individual students. The test results are not retuned until the fall, when students have a different teacher. Knowing their score without being able to review right and wrong answers is useless.
Haimson writes:
“So what are the facts? The state exams have been shortened from three days to two, which is an improvement, and the state mandated that no child could be held back because of a low score on the exam, and no teacher judged on the results, as occurred during Mayor Bloomberg’s administration.
“But there are still many questions about the quality and usefulness of these exams. Here a third grade teacher points out how many of the reading passages continue to be far above grade level, and how the results fail to provide any useful diagnostic information to teachers about their students. Many other educators have pointed out how the state exams are replete with questions like “What is the main idea” of a reading passage, while offering multiple choice answers that are confusing and ambiguous.
“As Jeanette Deutermann of Long Island Opt Out points out, the overemphasis on high-stakes testing has caused schools to narrow the curriculum, focus on low-quality worksheets and eliminate project-based learning. The exams also widen inequities and are toxic for students, as Johanna Garcia explains. Chancellor Farina privately told a group of NYC parents two years ago that she herself would opt out of the test if she had an English Language Learner or special needs child — though she refused to admit this publicly.
“The Common Core standards and exams have also promoted other damaging practices in schools, such as “close reading” strategies in which teachers aren’t supposed to explain the larger context of passages, with students deprived of the background knowledge they need to fully comprehend assigned texts. For the best and most concise critique of how this impairs learning, see a one minute video from Nick Tampio, professor at Fordham University.
”Indeed, some Common Core proponents are now backtracking and renouncing the value of the current state exams, including Louisiana State Superintendent John White, (formerly Deputy Chancellor of NYC DOE) who now says that reading tests should be based instead on knowledge and a broad curriculum.”
it is a giant waste of student and teacher time, as well as many millions of dollars.
No other nation in the world tests every child every year from grades 3-8.
A few years ago, I spoke in Texas to administrators and school board members. One school board member got up and identified himself as an engineer. He said that his company samples its products. If they inspected every single item, he said, they would have no time to mpmanufacture the products. All their energy would be devoted to inspection.

I have a question. Is it a good thing that 70% of a students essay can be copied??? I have argued before the MDCPS board that the FSA encourages plagiarism. Is this really quality pedagogy?
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I permit my child to take the math test but not the ELA test. I made this decision based on the very poor quality of the commercially sourced ELA reading and question assignments sent home. The texts are abysmal and the questions are confusing. I simply assume the ELA test itself is basically two hours of this.
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Why permitting the math test? I tell you why: because you want to know the score. The test-makers know that parents like numbers too, especially when these are good numbers.
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Gruff,
The state tests are totally worthless. The feedback is skimpy and comes many months after the test was taken, and the student has a different teacher. They are given and taken because people are sheep and follow orders.
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No, Gruff. That’s not what’s happening. I never asked to have my children take this test and I could care less what their scores are. I know that this is a purely political exercise, which has everything to do with Governor Cuomo and his donors and nothing to do with my children, their teachers, or their school.
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I do agree that the state tests serve no purpose and I understand everyone’s explanation of why that is. Let me try to explain why, as I initially posted, I opt out of ELA but not Math.
I recognize I am partially against the grain on this thread but here goes:
When I was in school, I remember liking tests. However, they were good tests. Very different from these awful tests. When I was in school, they tested the material we had learned. The tests were well written rather than confusing. They were challenging but fair and that made them fun. I’m a geek, I know.
I have come to the opt out discussion late in the game because of my own positive experience with tests. My awakening came from my increasing dissatisfaction with the materials used to teach ELA which, as became quite apparent, were created to teach to the test. So now we have a horrible test and we create horrible materials to train kids to take that horrible test. And lots of money is being made by companies that write “train for the test” materials. I won’t support this system so no ELA tests for our household.
When it comes to math, I am finding the curriculum to be good (at least for my child) so I don’t mind permitting the test. However, I may change my mind after hearing my child’s view of the test. My child is good at, and loves, math so if the test was stressful or confusing, no more math state tests next year.
It is not a matter of test scores for me. I want to be clear about that.
I hope this better explains my point of view.
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Diane Ravitch, you said that students take the tests “because people are sheep and follow orders”. I sense your frustration but I don’t know if that’s really fair. There are many of us parents out there who engage with the issue and many, like me, who struggle with the issue. And many who are new to the conversation. It would be a shame if we were written off as sheep.
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I apologize for saying that everyone who takes the tests is acting like sheep. The reality is that most of the time, most people do what they are told. Most people follow orders. The testing regime is a failure. Why aren’t parents across the nation opting out?
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”Indeed, some Common Core proponents are now backtracking and renouncing the value of the current state exams, including Louisiana State Superintendent John White, (formerly Deputy Chancellor of NYC DOE) who now says that reading tests should be based instead on knowledge and a broad curriculum.”
Good catch. That DOES seem to contradict what we were told when they were selling the Common Core tests.
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Agree. I think too that the big opt-out #’s in NYS helped get issues about over-testing & the general value of stdzd tests into mainstream media, launching natl awareness. It used to be tough to find such articles outside the ed sector.
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Oops, meant as a comment to your next post below.
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It inspired this whole set of meetings in Ohio. Politicians here started questioning the tests. Up to that point they had presented them as definitive to parents- as a hard measure that people can and should rely on. That all changed as a result of opt out.
That can only benefit students. It never should have been swallowed whole to begin with.
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Opt out parents did a lot of good. They changed the whole debate in Ohio. It went from an ed-reform dominated debate to one that was much more inclusive and open.
When opt out started one couldn’t even question testing without being accused of “protecting the status quo” or “avoiding accountability”, or Duncan’s (sexist) smear, that is was about over-protective “moms” coddling their children.
Now we have whole open debates over the value of testing – people even question the validity of the tests, period- during the Rhee/Duncan era that was forbidden.
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I don’t think ed reformers COULD base the Common Core tests on “knowledge and a broad curriculum” because they specifically and vehemently denied they were telling anyone WHAT to teach.
That really would be a national curriculum.
The test HAS to measure “skill” at reading because it’s national and “content” is different everywhere.
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Seems to me the tests were designed to collect children’s psychometric data for companies like inBloom, which is why they test “skills” instead of content. Psychometric data can be used to affect credit ratings as they will in China starting in 2020. Thank the heavens inBloom failed (actually, thank Leonie Haimson), and that data fishing companies like Facebook and Google are finally being scrutinized.
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YES, OPT OUT. The OPT OUT Movement MUST continue. OPT OUT, OPT OUT, OPT OUT of those repressive, invalid tests.
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New York will have two days of testing? We are meeting this afternoon to discuss testing that will extend into May. We are mad as a hatter.
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Let’s see how ‘2 days of testing’ translates into elapsed time, once you shuffle everybody in & out of [limited] testing areas for am & pm testing sessions, not to mention make-ups & SpEd accommodations. Probably weeks, not days of interrupted teaching schedules & lack of access to gym & library…
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The entirety of fourth term at my school is taken up in testing. This includes the library, which also has a computer lab. So the library can’t be used for 1/4 of the year.
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At my school, English and math each lose two weeks. The month of May is set aside for testing.
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No mention was made about the detrimental effect the standardized tests have on children’s ego/ self-image. Standardized tests are designed so students won’t get hundred. If someone got all the questions right that student needs to take a more difficult test to reach his/her ceiling. Students don’t know the reasoning behind the test, some only feel stupid when there are so many questions they can’t answer. Once one’s self image has been eroded it is next to impossible to regain it. Remember Einstein’s saying: “Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.
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There is no proof that Einstein said this.
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It only took me a few seconds to discover with help from Google that Einstein did write something about exams.
“The teachers’ impression of a student derived during the school years, together with the usual numerous papers from assignments–which every student has to complete–are a succinctly complete and better basis on which to judge the student than any carefully executed examination,” he writes.
“Rather than pursuing their work in an intellectually curious, in-depth manner, they memorize and study for the sake of superficial knowledge. Which is great for acing the exam, but not so great for retaining the knowledge after the test. “Instead of an exclusively substance-oriented occupation with the individual subjects, one too often finds a lapse into shallow drilling of the students for the exam,” he writes.
https://www.inc.com/ilan-mochari/einstein-finals-nightmare.html
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I had kids get annoyed at a test that adjusted according to whether their answers were correct or not. If they answered correctly, they kept getting more questions, seemingly without end. More than one student started randomly choosing answers to end the test. Another problem that teachers who do diagnostic testing have noticed is that test protocols will arbitrarily stop testing after a certain number of wrong answers. That does not however represent the extent of the child’s knowledge. Quite frequently, kids will go on to get a string of answers correct if allowed to continue. These anecdotes just point to the absurdity of using standardized testing for anything other than helping to make diagnostic decisions as only one piece in a comprehensive process.
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Your scenario doesn’t apply to the NYSED tests—they are not adaptive, and it is possible for a child to answer every question correctly (indeed, in NYC alone there are hundreds of children who do so every year).
The big talking point this year seems to be that the test results arrive too late to inform instruction. This ignores the reality that my children’s test scores, along with subjective classroom grades and assessments of their behavior and character, are useful for next year’s teachers to use.
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No, they are not useful because the teacher next year will not be able to see which questions your child got right or wrong. The tests are worthless.
No other nation in the world tests every child every year from grades 3-8. We are still living on the fumes of George W. Bush’s non-existent Texas Miracle.
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When New York shortened the tests from three days to two, did they increase the hours of testing on those two days?
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The opt out parents should hear ed reformers now- all of a sudden they want “multiple measures” of quality and all sorts of nuance.
That happened right about the time it became clear that charters and private schools weren’t outscoring public schools 🙂
Test scores were fine as a measure until they came to be used to measure charters and vouchers. Then they magically became invalid.
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You are forgetting that states that receive federal funds from ESSA are required to continue annual tests of ELA and Math and required to develop other measures, including one for school quality. The opt-op movement helped with that slight change from NCLB requirements, but there are still ridiculous levels of accountability in the law, like rating teacher ed programs by the test scores produced by their graduates. See for example, today’s Vamboozled website.
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I think they made a real difference though.
Listen to any of the politicians currently running for office. They all (now) insist they reject testing as a measure of students and want multiple measures.
The lock-step march ended. Opt out started a real debate.
They did a great job. ALL public school students will benefit from the end of the 20 year dominance of the testing freaks.
It would have continued unabated forever. They would be testing these kids every minute of every day if they weren’t stopped. There were more tests EVERY YEAR and they were pushing them down to younger and younger grades. No one outside of the opt out activists even questioned it.
They’re still doing it in ed reform. Take a look at what they pass off as “blended learning”- it is test after test after test. They cannot stop themselves. They seem incapable of showing any kind of restraint or reason as far as testing. These people are absolutely nutty about testing children.
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Well, in case anyone needs a reason to take the STAAR in Texas, McDonald’s is happy to give you one. Apparently, students and teachers can choose a free, healthy breakfast item from the menu on testing days:
https://www.dallasnews.com/news/education/2018/04/09/mcdonalds-will-offer-free-meals-north-texas-teachers-students-taking-state-accountability-tests
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How about receiving a free, healthy meal, talking to the manager about adequately compensating McDonald’s employees, and then Opting Out.
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