John Thompson, historian and former teacher, describes in this post the latest trampling of the rights of students and teachers by Ryan Walters, the state’s Secretary of Education. Secretary Walters wants to eject “indoctrination” from the schools but replace it with his own brand of introdoctrination. True MAGA!
Thompson:
Somethings Happening Here; What Is, Never Is Clear.
In July, State Superintendent Ryan Walters announced that an executive committee would overhaul Oklahoma’s standards in order to eliminate DEI and “indoctrination,” and highlight “American exceptionalism.” It would feature prominent conservatives, including Dennis Prager of PragerU, David Barton of the Christian Nationalist organization, Wallbuilders, and the president of the Heritage Foundation, Kevin Roberts.”
In an interview with NBC News, Walters then threatened, “Oklahoma educators who refuse to teach students about the Bible could lose their teaching license.”
And Roberts, a sponsor of Project 2025, has further explained, “We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.” Roberts also told the New York Times that “he views Heritage’s role today as ‘institutionalizing Trumpism.’”
According to FOX 25, in early September, the entire Social Studies Standards Committee met “to discuss what they thought would be a final review.” Instead, an undisclosed draft of their standards, was presented by the executive committee. Moreover FOX News was told that committee members “had to sign non-disclosure agreements not to share what was being discussed and were reminded of the NDAs at the end of the session.”
FOX’s sources also said, “what happened Tuesday left them ‘disheartened.’” One source said, “I want to throw up.”
Moreover, State Rep. Forrest Bennett described the meeting as, “essentially getting them into a room today and saying ‘Thanks for all your work. We don’t care. We’re deleting, copy-pasting … [and imposing] right-wing, out-of-state, out-of-touch, standards.'”
The same week, new information was disclosed in regard to revoking the teaching license of Summer Boismier. In 2022, her district, “fearing the grave risk of an HB 1775 complaint required teachers to remove their classroom libraries until they could read every book or provide multiple sources to confirm each title was age appropriate.” So, Boismier, “covered the shelves of her classroom library with red butcher paper on which she wrote ‘books the state doesn’t want you to read.’” She also “posted a QR code in her classroom that linked to an online library containing banned books.” (HB 1775 basically banned eight concepts in a confusing way; essentially it was an attack on what the state called Critical Race Theory, which wasn’t actually being taught in schools.)
In 2023, “an administrative law judge found [that] the Education Department failed to prove that Boismier’s conduct justified revocation of her teaching certificate.” But in August of 2024, Board of Education issued their revocation order without revealing what it said. We now know that Boismier was accused of “’circumventing’ HB 1775, but not of teaching any of its banned concepts.”
And now Boismier’s attorney says, “It should be an easy call for the courts to overturn it, since Walters chose to throw out the actual facts and law in the case to get the results he wanted and campaigned on.”
In other cases during that week, Edmond teacher, Regan Killackey, is fighting in court against Walters’ effort to revoke his teaching license for “goofing around with his son and daughter in a party supply store in September 2019, snapping photos. His daughter put on a mask of Donald Trump. His son held up a silver plastic sword, and Killackey grimaced.”
And, Republican Rep. Kevin Wallace announced:
That the Legislative Office of Fiscal Transparency (LOFT) would begin an investigation into spending concerns regarding the Oklahoma State Department of Education (OSDE). This investigation, approved by Speaker Charles McCall, R-Atoka, and spearheaded by Wallace in his capacity as Chairman of LOFT, will focus on issues raised by both legislators and private citizens regarding alleged OSDE funding disbursement issues.
Moreover, all relevant information will be shared “with Attorney General Gentner Drummond regarding any potential violations of the Open Records or Open Meeting Acts by OSDE.”
So, what’s happening here in Oklahoma “ain’t exactly clear,” but we know that more Republican legislators are resisting Walters and it seems unlikely that Walters’ overreach will hold up in court. What I hear from legislators is that the effort to impose Project 2025 on history standards has prompted a serious tumult behind closed doors. It’s also clear that Walters and the Heritage Foundation will continue their assaults on public education. But, I’m confident that Walters, at least, his heading for a fall.

Whats interesting is the comparison of Hamas indoctrinating the children of Palestine to the evils of Israel. And Oklahoma indoctrination of children to the evils of democracy. It is clear the structures of Project 2025 is what the goal is for education in Oklahoma.
If we thought this couldn’t happen here, in the US, we were wrong. Project 2025 is here, now. The children of OK, will be taught this and it won’t be long before we have an entire state of kids that know no better.
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The GOP is one sick party!
Trump has taken the GOP to it’s depth of depravity. Can the GOP sink even lower? I say, “Watch!”
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“…refuse to teach students about the Bible could lose their teaching license.”
I think they would enjoy the story of Jepthah”s daughter See Judges 12. She either gets sacrificed literally or symbolically.
Or perhaps the head of John the Baptist on a platter?
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I doubt that the Superintendent of Schools of the State of Oklahoma would want me giving students a brief course in Hebrew mythology.
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Bob, I would pull my children out of the Oklahoma Public Schools and figure out how for them to attend a private school that actually teaches what students to think with an open mind about how to live ones life, be successful, and a contributing member of society.
I would know put up with this Nazis form of education.
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Same here
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Prager U? Educational malpractice on steroids.
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Replacing the teaching of history with the teaching of Nationalist Myth. That’s the purpose of the Praeger instructional videos.
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“We are in the process of the second American Revolution, which will remain bloodless if the left allows it to be.”
If this veiled threat does not inspire people to vote, they are incapable of seeing what is at stake. The idea of institutionalizing MAGA should send chills down the spine of all Americans that believe in the ideals of this country.
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Ah, all part of the GOP trifecta: indoctrination + privatization + tax credits scheme.
I’d be watching for the proliferation of new private schools that tout they do not brainwash, er, teach this warped view of America and erased American history.
Why? Oklahoma has vouchers available to any family with no income cap. So if you don’t want your kid brainwashed, grab a voucher and send him (ok, her too) to a private school that teaches a good old traditional back to the basics curriculum.
Everybody wins – parents who want their kids immersed in right-wing propaganda, parents who want to escape the radical right, and wealthy predators of tax credits.
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Sheesh, what a bunch of knuckle draggers….
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Bob Shepherd teaches the Bible to Oklahoma School Children
Lesson 1: Ancient Middle Eastern Cosmology: Borrowings in the Genesis Accounts (Note the plural.) of Creation from Other Contemporary Religions (Babylonian, Sumerian, Akkadian, Assyrian, and Egyptian).
Takeaway: Syncretism in new, emerging religions. There’s nothing new under the sun. New religions are derivative of older ones.
Teaser fact: The word in the Hebrew, Tehom, that is translated as “the deep, as in “and darkness was on the face of the deep,” is cognate with the name of the primordial Serpent/Ocean Goddess Tiamat from the Babylonian epic Enūma Eliš. It’s a borrowing from the creation myth of neighboring peoples. In this lesson we are going to look at some 25 such borrowings in the Genesis creation accounts, which are a pastiche of material from other, preexisting religions.
Please let the Oklahoma Sup know that I am ready and willing to instruct the state’s students in this stuff.
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Because, of course, Hebrew Mythology is endlessly fascinating.
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You have obviously omitted the turtle upon which we all reside. I am no longer going to listen to you.
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Akupara, the world turtle, is from Hindu mythology. Four elephants stand on the back of Akupara and support the Earth.
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Interesting, Bob. You should offer an adult ed. class on world mythologies. I assume you’re OK if you are not bailing out your home.
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Thanks, Bob. Back to listening. The turtle lurched s bit today here. Or was that the Hurricane going by?
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We were completely flooded in. Impassable water on all sides. No sewage or potable water. Five deaths in our county, according to the Sheriff’s office. Everything returning, now, to normal. My son and I rode it out. No major damage to our place.
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Bob, so glad to hear that you got through this terrible hurricane without major damage. My sister lives in northern Florida and took a direct hit. A large tree fell on her house destroying a new roof. Fortunately no one was injured.
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Horrible. Sorry to hear that, Diane!
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“[I]nstitutionalizing Trumpism”? I’d be happy to merely institutionalize trump.
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Could a group of parents sue the state for interfering with their children’s right to a quality education?
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WHOSE VERSION OF THE BIBLE WILL BE TAUGHT? WHOSE TEN COMMANDMENTS? WILL CATHOLICS BE HUMILIATED?
Protestants and Catholics each have their own version of the Ten Commandments and their own version of the Bible. Whose version of the Commandments and whose version of the Bible would be posted and taught in public schools?
In the Protestant version of the Commandments, the Second Commandment says that it is sinful to make “graven images”, such as statues — the Catholic version of the Commandments says nothing about graven images, so Catholic churches contain many statues of Mary and the saints. Will Catholic children in public schools be shamed by their classmates as sinful because Catholic churches contain statues of Mary and the saints? Will Catholics again be viewed as untrustworthy “papists”?
Catholic parents of children in public schools will arise to protest in the courts that the Protestant Ten Commandments violate the religious rights of Catholic students.
Also, the Catholic Church and many mainstream Protestant denominations have accepted evolution and rejected the literal interpretation of Genesis; here are their official statements, some of which are very militant in urging their members to reject “creationism”:
The CATHOLIC CHURCH: Half of all Christians in the world are Catholic, and in the 1950 Papal Encyclical “Humani Generis,” Pope Pius XII declared that the human body came “from pre-existent and living matter” that evolved through a sequence of stages before God instilled a spiritual soul into the human body. Catholics accept that Genesis is not literal and are only bound by faith to believe that the natural evolution of the human body was a God-guided process, and that the spiritual human soul that inhabits the physical human body didn’t evolve, but is created by God.
The EPISCOPAL CHURCH declared in its 67th General Assembly:
“Whereas, the state legislatures of several states have recently passed so-called ‘balanced treatment’ laws requiring the teaching of ‘Creation Science’ whenever evolutionary models are taught; and
Whereas, in many other states political pressures are developing for such “balanced treatment” laws; and
“Whereas, the dogma of ‘Creationism’ and ‘Creation Science’ as understood in the above contexts has been discredited by scientific and theologic studies and rejected in the statements of many church leaders; and
“Whereas, ‘Creationism’ and ‘Creation Science’ is not limited to just the origin of life, but intends to monitor public school courses, such as biology, life science, anthropology, sociology, and often also English, physics, chemistry, world history, philosophy, and social studies; therefore be it
“Resolved: that the 67th General Convention affirm the glorious ability of God to create in any manner, whether men understand it or not, and in this affirmation reject the limited insight and rigid dogmatism of the ‘Creationist’ movement, and be it further
“Resolved: by 67th General Convention of the Episcopal Church, 1982, that the Presiding Bishop appoint a Committee to organize Episcopalians and to cooperate with all Episcopalians to encourage actively urge their state legislators not to be persuaded by arguments and pressures of the ‘Creationists’ into legislating any form of ‘balanced treatment’ laws or any law requiring the teaching of ‘Creation Science’.”
The LUTHERAN WORLD FEDERATION declared in its Encyclopedia of the Lutheran Church, Vol. I, 1965, that: “An assessment of the prevailing situation makes it clear that evolution’s assumptions are as much around us as the air we breathe and no more escapable. At the same time theology’s affirmations are being made as responsibly as ever. In this sense both science and religion are here to stay, and the demands of either are great enough to keep most (if not all) from daring to profess competence in both. To preserve their own integrity both science and religion need to remain in a healthful tension of respect toward one another and to engage in a searching debate which no more permits theologians to pose as scientists than it permits scientists to pose as theologians.”
The UNITED METHODIST CHURCH declared at its 1984 Annual Conference that:
“Whereas, ‘Scientific’ creationism seeks to prove that natural history conforms absolutely to the Genesis account of origins; and,
“Whereas, adherence to immutable theories is fundamentally antithetical to the nature of science; and,
“Whereas, ‘Scientific’ creationism seeks covertly to promote a particular religious dogma; and,
“Whereas, the promulgation of religious dogma in public schools is contrary to the First Amendment to the United States Constitution; therefore,
“Be it resolved that The Iowa Annual Conference opposes efforts to introduce ‘scientific’ creationism into the science curriculum of the public schools.”
The UNITED PRESBYTERIAN CHURCH in the USA declared at its 1982 General Assembly that:
“Whereas, the dispute is not really over biology or faith, but is essentially about Biblical interpretation, particularly over two irreconcilable viewpoints regarding the characteristics of Biblical literature and the nature of Biblical authority:
“Therefore, the United Presbyterian Church in the U.S.A. General Assembly: Affirms that, despite efforts to establish ‘creationism’ or creation science’ as a valid science, it is teaching based upon a particular religious dogma; and,
“Calls upon Presbyterians, and upon legislators and school board members, to resist all efforts to establish any requirements upon teachers and schools to teach ‘creationism’ or ‘creation science’.”
So, whose dogmas about the Book of Genesis are going to be taught in public schools? Fights are going to arise and courts will likely rule that all views must be taught. Fundamentalists won’t like that, just as Catholics and most mainstream denominations will bitterly oppose teaching that Genesis must be taken literally.
Such disagreements between Christian churches caused generations of war in Europe, and relatives of our Founding Fathers died in such wars, which is why our Founding Fathers wrote our Constitution to keep religion out of any part of our government, including schools.
So, whose version of the Bible, whose Ten Commandments, and whose dogma on the Book of Genesis will teachers be required to teach? Or will teachers be allowed to teach all versions of the Bible, different sets of the Ten Commandments, and all the different Christian views of Genesis, from the literal interpretation, to the acceptance of evolution which says that Genesis is an allegory?
In order to avoid trampling the religious rights of the different denominations, ALL the versions of the Bible and ALL views and dogmas will have to be taught — and that could have the effect of causing children to just shrug at all religious belief because they will see the conflicting views…not what the Christian Nationalists intended.
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interesting summation. Dogma if I know.
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