Gwen Frisbie-Fulton writes here about her neighbors, who were white supremacists. She moved away so her son would not be exposed to their hatefulness.
There were ten thousand personal reasons why I packed up that house and sold it, but there was also one troublesome thing that had been on my mind. A few years earlier the Vinlanders — a white power hate group — had set up a clubhouse only a few blocks away. They were disruptive, violent, and scary and they were recruiting the neighborhood’s poor white kids who they hoped had no other offers or chances in life. As a young, poor single mom of a white son, I knew he could eventually be a target.
She was shocked to see that the Indianapolis Star interviewed one of these men after the riot at the U.S. Capitol.
Then, the day after the attack on the Capitol, the Indianapolis Star — the reputable, award-winning paper — ran a run-of-the-mill story including an interview with a man named Brien James. It was reported that James had joined about one hundred other Trump supporters and Proud Boys at the Indiana statehouse to oppose the Electoral College count and he spoke to the Star as the assault was occurring in Washington. The Star then also quoted James again the next day, documenting him as just another voice in this moment in history. It read like a benign human interest story: Some men, who you may or may not agree with politically, holding a protest at the statehouse — as we do and will continue to do in our American democracy.
But I know plenty about Brien James. He was my old neighbor.
Brien James was the founder of the Vinlanders Social Club — he is one of the ones I would see goosestepping outside the local bars in steel-toed boots ready to fight. He was the one who selected my neighborhood as a place for his hate group to target. It is documented that James created the Vinlanders after he was kicked out of the Outlaw Hammerskins for being too violent — he apparently nearly stomped someone to death for refusing to do a Sieg heil in the early 2000s. He later founded the Hoosier State Skinheads. For anyone who doesn’t know or doesn’t remember, “skins” are neo-Nazis. That’s not hyperbole, that’s what they call themselves.
She wondered why the IndyStar would fail to check out who they were interviewing.
Diane Ravitch's blog 
As a member of the mainstream media, I do have to respond a bit to the view that the Indy Star treated this as a “benign human interest story.” These paragraphs don’t show that. **According to the Southern Poverty Law Center, James follows a racist skinhead ideology and is one of the founders of the Vinlanders Social Club. Formed in 2003, the club developed a reputation for “drinking, brawling and following a racist version of Odinism, a form of ancient paganism once practiced by Vikings.”
James is accused of being involved in a number of racist attacks, playing a role in feuds among rival skinhead groups and boasting about having a Joint Terrorism Task Force file on him that is “a mile long,” according to the SPLC.**
The article is prefaced by the following
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Corrections & Clarifications: This story has been updated to provide more context on Brien James. ”
Were the parts you quoted added as part of the “update?”
It matters a great deal because it is very possible that they were only added in response to complaints from people like Frisbie-Fulton. The readers need to know if that was the case.
Unfortunately,the newspaper doesn’t make clear which parts of the story were “updated”, something which news organizations should ALWAYS do.
It should never be left to the reader to try to figure out which parts were changed or added.
Even calling additions to a story an “update” James it sound like new information appeared that was not previously available when the story was written, which would not be an honest and accurate representation in this case.
The latter should really be called a “correction”.
True, we don’t know that. If so, basically the reporter fcked up and the newspaper recognized it as a fckup. If Frisbie-Fulton’s complaint led to that correction, at least they realize they blew it.
There are Vindlanders in central Ohio, too. They are not afraid to openly display their nazi tattoos and wear their shirts with nazi related imagery. I’ve had parent/teacher conferences where fathers show up wearing 3 percenter(or worse) apparel. We’ve given these types way too much space. We’ve got ourselves a big problem.
I had a job just out of college working in the sewers. We traveled all over the east running TV cameras through sewer pipes. Another part of the company did sewer rehab. That part of the company was run by a man who was rumored to be part of the KKK. Being a guy who did not believe in listening to rumors, I discounted this as a vicious rumor. Besides, the guy had given me a compliment by specifically requesting me as the technician who had to TV a line in St Petersburg before he slip-lined it.
Then one day, I was given the job of taking this man to the airport. He began to ask me what I thought about the prospect of a coming race war. I was, as you might imagine, guarded in my reply. It was bracing to get so close to a person who condoned the type of violence my family had taught me to abhor.
Nightmare. How do you even sell a house like that.
Through Nazis R Us Realty.
That was funny! Will have to check out film.
The scariest thing is that these people have been so normalized in the media.
I am old enough to remember a time where those who espoused those views were marginalized, not taken seriously by a media who decided that their view of the world should be characterized as being just as legitimate and truthful as those who oppose them.
I never thought this country would return to a time when these views are normalized the way they were over 100 years ago. No wonder our democracy was in so much danger, and continues to be so.
Because they look “normal”. No longer do they have to hide behind a white robe with a hood. No longer do they have to commune in the dark on some outlying tract of farmland. They are bold and they are smart and they rebranded to stay relevant in society.
Although these guys in particular don’t exactly “look normal” to my eye.
“Hoover” looks just like the QAnon Shaman, perhaps not incidentally.
I have a cousin, a Trumpie in Kentucky, who posts with approval propaganda from the 3 percenters. Last year, a 20-year-old neighbor kid tried to “explain” to me that the Holocaust was a Jewish lie, that Hitler survived and lived on in Argentina, was the savior of Germany, and was brought down by Communists in the US Government. I told him the story of the mother of an old girlfriend of mine, who was as a girl at the Theresienstadt concentration camp (her entire family, except for her, became smoke and ashes at Auschwitz) and about my uncle who was one of the solders who liberated Buchenwald and what he saw there and about a friend from Belarus whose grandfather and grandmother escaped the massacred by the Nazis of everyone in his village and lived on stolen potatoes through a winter in a hole they had dug in the ground in the forest.
None of this had any effect on him.
Trump ushered in an era in which alternative, manufactured realities. And he and his Propaganda Minister, Stephen “Goebbels” Miller, invited the skinheads out of the woodwork, into the public square, and ultimately into the Captol for an attempted insurrection.
Trump described himself as a “wartime president,” fighting Covid, which was a hoax that would disappear any day now, by suggesting that we take a drug for treating malaria and lupus and inject ourselves with disinfectants. He didn’t even make an attempt to be consistent in his lying.
And his base base ate it up. Reality became “fake news.” No evidence mattered. There could be only absolute belief in and obedience to the Great Leader.
And the Republican Party let this happen.
Please pardon the typos in that post. Rushing.
Terrific commentary, Bob, thanks. Far right scored a symbolic victory Jan in trashing the Capitol even though it was a military defeat. The symbolic gains of having forced the most powerful govt. to run for its life will fuel its recruiting, rearming, and return, while the GOP right-winger are a solid bloc going nowhere and prepping for midterms in ’22. We’ll see how determined the FBI is in ferreting out and incarcerating the mob.
Ira and Bob My guess is that we’ll be hearing about what we know . . that Trump let it happen, instigated it with his rhetoric, and was delighted when it was occurring, . . .l but also that there is some question about his directing “his people” in the Pentagon and at other junctures of power, to avoid responding to calls for protection of the Capitol and those who were there that day, e.g., from the National Guard and the Pentagon.
The whole scenario makes we wonder: if they had actually harmed or killed a legislator, or Pence, whether Republicans would vote to convict Trump . . . no matter what. CBK
Throughout the Trump Limbo Dance Party, I have wondered, “Well, is this it? Is this the low that is too low?” There doesn’t seem to be such a thing.
This young neo-Nazi had ambitions to become a police officer. He said that he had had “the scales lifted from” his eyes by “studying up” on the Internet. Welcome to Post-Truth Trump World.
In early February, the Republican Party will have a fateful decision to make. Will it break with Trump, will it atone for having acquiesced in his venality and racism and continual lying, leading to an actual insurrection against our government? Will it decide to draw the line and make it clear that Trump will no longer be accepted as kingmaker in the GOP? Or will it remain the party of groveling sycophancy up to and inclusive of treason?
The Trump trial in the Senate is a crossroads. History will remember those who failed in their duty to the country, to democracy.
Will enough Senators in the GOP show some spine? Or will they show that no low, even treason, is too low.
We now know the answer: Only five GOP senators voted to continue with the impeachment. The other 45 are so afraid of Trump that they will let him go scot-free after publicly promoting a terrorist siege of the U.S. Capitol. Trump now owns the GOP. Forty five senators gave it away.
Amen, Bob.
America is at a crossroads. I pray for sanity and justice.
You and me both, Yvonne!!!
Unfortunately there are too many who prey on sanity and justice.
So it looks like we have our answer. GOP largely votes against holding Trump impeachment trial
https://apnews.com/article/trump-impeachment-senate-eeff16bd40a4fe3b65b5efc9f1582289
Inciting an attack on the U.S. Capitol is no big deal, right?
Having armed insurrectionists hunting for the leaders of Congress and the VP is no big deal.
Bob Even McConnell, who wouldn’t cross the line (apparently), is now dancing around that same line. He’s a company man, to be sure. CBK
I think of these people like McConnell and am reminded of the Zimbardo and Milgram experiments. Look around you in a crowd: 60 percent of these people would collaborate.
We live in a country where THIS PERSON can be elected to the House: https://www.cnn.com/2021/01/26/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-democrats-violence/index.html
Great minds think alike.
They sold their souls at the crossroads
And they still can’t even play guitar like Robert Johnson
Things as they are become quite bizarre
upon the Republican air guitar.
Alternative facts become quite acceptable;
treason won’t keep you from being electable.
Don struts on the stage, strumming the air,
and tossing his troll-doll-like, comb-over hair.
My tune is the best! Clapton’s fake news!
Oh yes, nothing like it, say Hawley and Cruz.
“It’s blue lives that matter!” chime in the insurgents,
while beating police with various implements.
“For reality itself our Great Orange czar
can bend any which way on his air guitar.”
And what of the riots? “Well, on with the show!”
say Senators for whom no low is too low.
Well, to be fair, SDP, no one could. But that’s a far as I’m willing to go with my fairness on this issue.
We bought our first home from a German woman whose husband had disappeared. The man was a lawyer that liquidated closed supermarkets, and he had embezzled money. The German woman went back to Germany and left a number of pictures behind including one in which the ex-husband was wearing an SS uniform. This was back in 1974.
The neighbor who watched my kids for me sometimes–a recent immigrant from Germany–once brought her family photo album over. “Oh, and there’s Uncle Herman,” she said. In his Waffen-SS uniform.
This stuff is still in living memory. It must never be forgotten.
Looks like Trump is once again being held unaccountable for exciting a riotous group to storm the Capitol building. Slithering con man escapes once more.
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The Hill:
Just five GOP senators vote Trump impeachment trial is constitutional
The Senate sent a strong signal Tuesday that there are not nearly enough votes to convict President Trump in an impeachment trial when only five GOP senators rejected an effort by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) to declare the looming trial unconstitutional.
The Senate voted 55-45 to set aside Paul’s motion, with all but five GOP senators siding with Paul. GOP Sens. Mitt Romney (Utah), Ben Sasse (Neb.), Susan Collins (Maine), Lisa Murkowski (Alaska) and Pat Toomey (Pa.) voted with Democrats to table Paul’s point of order.
The vote is the clearest sign yet that Trump is heading toward a second acquittal and offers an early insight into which Republicans are lining up behind an argument that his second impeachment trial isn’t constitutional.
Our country really has a serious white supremacist/neoNazi/other right wingers problem. Hopefully the new administration will take it just as seriously. The sooner the better.
Yes. The KKK and white supremacists came out in public with Trump’s endorsement.
Yup. Did you read the story today about Marjorie Taylor Greene’s comments on Facebook? Horrific!
Thank you all for your stories. I was raised by evangelical Christians who are now knee deep in conspiracy theories (911 were actors, George Floyd died of an overdose, chemtrails). They got into the conspiracy space, in my mind, by the teaching of other races one day overtaking the white race (by such and such a date we will be a minority). This was linked by references to us being a Christian nation (our roots) and how we needed to take it back foe God (and subtly for the white race). It has led them down a dark road and today I find many more people have joined them espousing soft racist theories, threatened by losing their identity, the “Christian heritage”. I cannot speak to them without my mom becoming very heated on these topics or my dad calmly intellectually insinuating them into conversation. I feel I’ve lost them and many other in the evangelical community to a radicalized movement. It has destroyed our relationship. It saddens me deeply.
Thank you. Any signs of significant evangelical folks like you who challenge the right-wing evangelicals? Every religion has a left and a right—Jews, muslims, Catholics, etc. The right-wing is on the warpath. organized, enabled by govt. and private funding, and aggressive. Left-wing religious folks have an historic role to play in the democratic opposition to them.
Ira, I have a good, kind, compassionate, brilliant friend–perhaps the best copyeditor I’ve ever known–who is a lifelong evangelical Christian raised in a missionary family that worked overseas. She detests Trump and rightly sees that he abundantly exemplifies everything that Yeshua of Nazareth stood against. She would be the first to say that Donnie the Vile exhibits in abundance the seven deadly sins that the Church always claimed to stand against: lust, gluttony, greed, sloth, wrath, envy, and pridefulness.
Oh yes, indeed. I have a strong conviction that inaction and quiet around this sort of think leads to it being normalized. I have learned to very respectfully challenge the ideas of politics and religion being a dangerous link (in the sense of being pressured to vote for a party or a candidate). I regularly challenge (very respectfully) the notion that the black community has no issues with racism (blue lives matter, all lives matter) and why we need to address inequality. I regularly have discussions on the danger of authoritarian nationalism and its links to religion and white power. I refuse to engage in name calling and disrespect but try to treat those people with dignity. Many in mother’s family see this the same, so there is a lot of conversation and I am involved in a church where my beliefs on these topics are in the minority. We shall see for how long I stay there. However, I have yet no one whom has moved on any of this and I do nothing think reason has worked for me in debating these topics. Yet, I want them to have pushback and not be social acceptable to say without someone speaking up. Maybe someone will think, hmm or someone else will overhear a dissenting view.
Col poet: I stand in your shoes in a mainstream church.
Good for you! It’s hard!
This is heartbreaking, Colorado Poet. You are not alone. There are times, however, when decency and honor and integrity require that one take a stand, however painful–times when to do otherwise would be blasphemy against one’s Self.
The oldest surviving poem in the English language that isn’t just a fragment on a runestone, is “Caedmon’s Hymn.” A monk named Bede wrote about the composition of this poem in his History of the English Church, composed around AD 731. Caedmon, an illiterate herder, longed to have the poetic skills of the bards in the mead hall. One evening, an angel appeared to him and bade him sing. “What shall I sing?” asked Caedmon. “Sing me creation (in Anglo Saxon, the word is frumsceaft),” the Angel said, and Caedmon’s Hymn was such a song, in praise of creation–the first in our language. And a beautiful thing it is, well worthy of being the first poem in our great language.
As an Existentialist, I believe that the Self is largely frumsceaft, a creation. Authenticity was traditionally defined as being “true to one’s Self,” but the Existentialist argues that there is not pre-existing, given Self to be true to. As Sartre put it, we are not like letter openers, designed beforehand for a specific purpose. We must decide what our purposes will be. That freedom is liberating and exciting!
So, what, then, is authenticity to the Existentialist? Well, it is taking responsibility for one’s created Self and remaining true to that creation. We are artists of ourselves, and authenticity is artistic integrity. No, we say, I cannot do that, think that. Agree with you about the racist, sexist, treasonous, vile, corrupt, criminal Trump. To do so would compromise the Self that I have, that I am, that I will be creating, as a cliche compromises a poem, as a stylistically inconsistent motif compromises any work of art–a sculpture, dance, painting, drama, film, or piece of music.
The Word person comes from the Latin persona–originally, the mask worn by an actor in a play. But there is nothing phony about the Self we create IF we are true to that creation.
Thank you for your words:)
Existentialism in five minutes: an overview
Hi Bob,
Ahhh…existentialism. Does my Ego create itself or is my Ego part of a greater consciousness or maybe a nothingness/somethingness of which the Ego is just a part? And if my Ego creates itself, from what does it do this? Thanks, Bob!
But, Mamie,whose who believe that each of us is just a chip off the One (Yeshua of Nazareth was clearly one such–see John 10:34 and Emerson’s exposition of that in his Divinity School Address),distinguish between the self that participates in divinity and the Ego, which, they conventionally say, is illusory. It’s magical thinking (in the sense of tricks, or fake magic). The ancient Greeks had one word for the mind and soul: psyche. They didn’t distinguish between these (Much of Plato is explicable only if one groks that that’s what he thought). Later Western thinkers divided us up into three parts, mind, body, and soul. But most of the ancient Hindus saw the soul as participating in the One–the Atman. Go in far enough, through off the illusions (like the Ego Self), and that’s what you find. The indigenous religions of the Americas and Australia didn’t for the most part put things together in that way, until, that is, their thinking was corrupted by Western missionaries. They were monists–the world and the spirit were one thing, not separate realms, one thing seen from different perspectives–the later in states of vision.
Thanks, Colorado Poet. I have an older sister who has fallen into that rabbit hole. We don’t speak often, especially these past four years, because she is a zealous Trump cult member. We spoke last night and she told me crazy things about Biden, and when I tried to correct her, she wouldn’t listen. I don’t think she will ever be deprogrammed. She lives in a bubble where she never reads anything except what she already believes. It is very sad.
It is so sad. It bring me some comfort to know other people, like yourself, understand the heartache of family who have fallen under this indoctrination. My parents are also Trump
Zealots, and I think the history I shared led them their. I appreciate you sharing this with me.
Reading your work right now, Colorado Poet, and very pleased to have discovered it! Many treasures there! Your WordPress name is well chosen.
Thank you kindly, sir! I really appreciate that!
Horrible, coloradopoet, thanks for sharing. Normalizing these people is truly insidious. I posted a story from the Akron Beacon Journal on Jan 7 that also whitewashed a member of the terrorist mob:
Summit County Trump supporter in Washington says rally was ‘overwhelmingly peaceful.’ She blames agitators for riots
From the top of a scaffold at the Capitol building in Washington, D.C., New Franklin resident Kristi Evans watched U.S. history unfold Wednesday.
She didn’t like what she saw.
From her perch, she watched as amity between police and protesters devolved into confrontation. She had gone there in the afternoon to help pressure Congress as it certified the Electoral College vote in the Nov. 3 presidential election. She planned to stay until a 6 p.m. curfew took effect.
Confrontation with law enforcement
Law enforcement officers “started firing tear gas, and they were small tear gas bombs,” Evans said. “We were mystified. The cops were standing there looking at us….”
As the confrontation progressed, Evans said larger tear gas canisters were launched into the crowd, which was dispersing.
Evans, who is an avid Trump supporter, said she arrived in Washington on Tuesday, along with others planning to go to a rally on Wednesday that featured a speech by the president. On Tuesday, the rallies were dominated by prayers and hymns.
She had reserved a room at the Trump International Hotel, where she could watch the crowds from her eighth-floor room when she wasn’t among them.
As she joined thousands of others marching to the Capitol on Wednesday, she said she didn’t expect riots to break out.
“People were actually in a good mood going to the Capitol building,” she said. “We were all peaceful — all of us. We were chanting, ‘USA, USA.’ ”
On the way, she learned that a woman had been shot and killed at the Capitol building. The 35-year-old woman was later identified as a San Diego resident and U.S. Air Force veteran shot by Capitol Police as she climbed into a broken window in the building.
Evans said the news shocked her, because she hadn’t experienced or observed any violence in the two days she’d been in Washington.
“The National Guard came in and they were laughing at how peaceful we were,” Evans said.
She said the Capitol Police and other law enforcement were aware that marchers were headed to the Capitol Building, where Congress was certifying the election results. After a delay caused by the riots and a breach of the Capitol building, President-elect Joe Biden was certified as the victor. He takes office on Jan. 20.
Evans told her story in a phone call interview late Wednesday night, still shocked at what transpired. She said that until Wednesday afternoon, hundreds of thousands of people had gathered for the rally before it became a riot.
“My overwhelming feeling was depression”
Evans said that she watched the speech by the president on a jumbotron screen and was disheartened. That was before she went to the Capitol building.
“My overwhelming feeling was depression,” she said. “We all looked at each other and we were saying: ‘He’s letting go. Trump is letting go.’ ”
Evans said that the people she talked to wanted to go to the Capitol to show support for Trump, even though she suspected Congress would go through with certification and Vice President Mike Pence would not dispute the results, as Trump urged.
The mood on the march down to the building was positive, she said. Many thought a show of numbers would demonstrate support for Trump and sway lawmakers, even though she thought the protest might fail.
“People still had hope; people weren’t going down to the Capitol building angry,” she said.
As she walked, her doubts grew about an election she believes was marred by fraud, despite reports that it wasn’t.
“I’m starting to get really scared that the government is going to let this happen,” she said.
Evans said that she didn’t see any of the rioting, but had experienced it at past rallies. While at Trump Tower rally in 2016 in New York, Evans said a tense standoff between opposing protests became violent when several buses of protesters arrived.
“We saw some white buses roll up and young people, college-age, get out,” she said. “They immediately started getting violent and protesting. … the cops had to escort us out of there.”
She said her group at the Capitol on Wednesday didn’t riot.
“They were knocking on the door with rubber [object],” she said. The object was a piece taken from a garbage container. Another person banged on the Capitol doors with an aluminum flag. Those who banged too hard were cited by police and left, she said.
“It was overwhelmingly peaceful,” she said. “There was never a riot at any point.”
Then the tear gas began as the 6 p.m. curfew was approaching and police chased out those who weren’t moving fast enough, she said. She made her way back to her hotel room.
Alleges Antifa was involved
Evans said she is convinced that professional agitators helped instigate what violence there was on Wednesday, alleging that members of Antifa were involved. However, most news media have discounted such reports.
Evans said the experience has left her with a bitter taste in her mouth and a desire to leave the nation’s capital.
She previously lived in Arlington, Virginia, for a time and was familiar with the Capitol. She used to walk her dogs there, she said.
“Twenty-four hours of rallies culminated in this abortion at the Capitol building,” she said.
She said she still believes the election was fraudulent and is disappointed that the Washington establishment accepts the results as valid.
“I’ve got to get the hell out of D.C.,” she said. “I just can’t stand the sight of the city. I spent a lot of time in D.C. [and] the sight of it makes me sick knowing they are OK with this.”
Leave a message for Alan Ashworth at 330-996-3859 or email him at aashworth@gannett.com. Follow him on Twitter at @newsalanbeaconj.
The paper didn’t have the guts or integrity to publish my LTE, which was written and sent immediately after reading this tripe.
To the editor:
I realize newspapers and journalism are dying throughout the U.S., but the press release for neo-fascist thugs who took part in one of the most shameful days in American history masquerading as a news story helps explain why.
The lead itself was telling: “From the top of a scaffold at the Capitol…” Shouldn’t an actual reporter, which it seems Alan Ashworth and the Beacon Journal editors seem to believe he is, be prompted to immediately ask, “What were you doing on top of a scaffold at the Capitol?”
Is it journalism when reporters puppet lunatic fringe conspiracies “alleging that members of Antifa were involved”?
This “story” was not news, it was rosy propaganda. It inflicted another wound from the terror we witnessed on January 6, 2021.
Oh yes, my parents say the violence was Antifa (as well as other family members). However, oddly she says that the woman who was killed (Bobitt?) should be given a state funeral. Not sure how both those things can be true at the same time. I’ve seen an article through epochtimes on a cousins page with the same story as above; peaceful gathering full of hope and patriotism, no riot. The news sources are terrible… The one above is run by a very suspect organization. And recently these relatives and friends have gone underground since Parler was shut to WeWom (?) forgive, can’t remember. I keep seeing invitations to join. Frightening.
I have heard the same sentiments from my right wing relatives who claim it was Antifa doing the violence and the rallies were peaceful.
Yes, we saw that “peaceful” rally at the U.S. Capitol on Jan 6.
I have read about many arrests.
None of those arrested were Antifa.
Colorado Poet, if you are a newcomer to the blog, be aware that I am a proud anti-fascist.
Our nation fought a war against fascism from 1942-1945.
Yes, I am aware. It’s all gas-lighting (the Antifa blaming). I’m not sure why the Trump supporters and Trump himself kept going on about Antifa?! I never could understand it, except if there is a violent wing? Anyhow, that’s above my pay grade! All I know is that it’s a bunch of blame shifting by those that caused the violence as well as the ugly rhetoric that has played out in so many families such as mine.
And one more for the pile of stories about how pointing out Nazi behavior is punished:
https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-55704932
Wow.
Most of those who were identified and arrested for invading the US Capitol have been released and sent home to await trial.
One in particular, a judge said, presented “no threat,” even though the local police released a photo of his personal arsenal of about 15 guns and assault weapons.
Are we sliding into dystopia?
coloradopoet It was years ago that I heard that same evangelical story from a relative of mine . . . “WE are a Christian nation and WE are being taken over by black people.” It’s the same confusion of Christianity with Whiteness, with them today. <–the whole thing reeks with irony; for instance, if you want to witness devoted Christians, you won’t find better beyond the Black Church — all over this country and beyond. But that’s not even the point.
In my view, the right wing in every kind of church in the land has hijacked Christianity. It’s way beyond just another version or cultural expression of it . . . they’ve twisted it around so much that it can legitimately be called a hate group. CBK
Yes, agreed, it’s very insidious. My parents were very concerned about the Hispanic and other populations overtaking the white population, and Spanish taking over English; changing our national identity. The Intermarriage between races was also talked about with a negative bent. It was all couched in nationalism. Honestly, a part of me is happy that the ugliness of people has surfaced and as you say we can see that this Christian white nationalism is a hate group.
https://www.vox.com/21506029/trump-violence-tweets-racist-hate-speech?fbclid=IwAR0xHqZr8-DQlkTV9bVyMVoxcsgrxE-kKKhoGM78R3yUwQwneJkij9-uxvA
History of Trump’s Racist Actions
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Racial_views_of_Donald_Trump
An Oral History of Trump’s racism:
https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2019/06/trump-racism-comments/588067/
Sexual Predation Allegations against Donald Trump:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Trump_sexual_misconduct_allegations
Trump, the Teflon Don v2.0, as Criminal, an Overview (or, how, if you have the money, you can just throw some crooked lawyers at it):
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Legal_affairs_of_Donald_Trump
But wasn’t it just last week we were cheering on a neo-Nazi?
No, last week you were cheering on racist and authoritarian Putin arresting anyone who opposed him and normalizing racist and authoritarian Trump’s most reprehensible racist actions. Did you forget so soon?
It is an odd comment coming from someone who has consistently tried to normalize the world’s most powerful neo-Nazi over the past four-plus years.
I will continue to cheer on opposition to the thug Putin.
While you seem to know more about Navalny than I do and willing to label him a Nazi, I hope you will take the time to watch this documentary narrated by Navalny.
Putin is a well known murderer of journalists and dissidents.
Navalny was warned that he would be arrested if he returned to Russia.
He did, and he was immediately arrested.
Somehow I don’t think you should be the definer of this courageous man.
It is pretty amazing to stand up and be counted when your enemy is the dictator of Russia.
You seem to dislike anyone who criticizes either Trump or Putin, which is puzzling.
From what I saw. Dienne, people here cheered on neither Navalny’s nationalism nor his anti-immigrant positions. However, many commenters here, and the host of this blog, were troubled by yet another example of Putin’s cracking down hard on all dissent and on people, like Navalny, who expose corruption in the Russian government. People who disagree with Putin or expose the corruption have this odd habit of getting themselves poisoned and jumping out of windows. Are we supposed to be thankful that our resident Kremlin kleptocracy apologist checked in today with the United Russia propaganda line? I suppose that it’s always good to know what the opposition is thinking and saying.
We are going to be dealing with the legacy of Trump/Miller racism for a long, long time. A Trump-appointed federal “judge” in Texas just blocked Biden’s halt on deportations nationwide.
It would be an insult to swine to call these people swine.
Yep. Saw an example of this at the grocery store a few days ago. And we have it here in the comments as well. Thankfully not too much.
And I would never call them swine. It would take the pleasure out of my ribs, pulled pork, tonkatsu, and shu mei! Or the fabulous fried chicken from Barberton, OH, which, as food writer John T. Edge noted, gets its signature flavor from being fried in “liquid swine.”
Like all people, I have my pet hypocrisies. To paraphrase the line from Brokeback Mountain, “I can’t quit pork!”
It’s kind of like a James Taylor song.
‘whenever I see your nazi face, I can not smile myself, because I dislike you’
lol
I’m thinking I should start an “I ❤ Jen Psaki club!” I’m sure that many millions feel as I do, enormous relief to have this bright, incredibly competent, and, especially, HONEST professional in this important job!
Amen to that. Nice to have an actual, professional press secretary.
GregB and Bob I hear reddish hair dye is flying off the shelves. CBK
Jen Psaki is a professional liar and you libs are fine with lying as long as it’s you side doing it, like with the $2000 checks.
Oh, my goodness, after 30,000 lies by Donald Trump, Psaki is a breath of fresh air.
She holds press conferences.
She answers questions without hostility.
She does not hate the First Amendment.
What a nice change!
This A-Hole needs to be in prison. Here’s to him being completely involved with lawsuits from the states. He’s creating an alternative presidency. How much damage can he do from his fake ‘administration’ in Florida? How far will the Republicans in Congress go before declaring that he is mentally incapacitated?
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What’s Next For Trump? His Plans As Impeachment Article Hits Senate
01/26/21 AT 8:26 AM
Former President Donald Trump is opening a new office in Florida on Monday that will carry on his admininstration’s administration, an announcement he made as the House delivered a single article of impeachment to the Senate.
Trump left Washington for Florida hours before his successor, Joe Biden. was sworn in Jan. 20. Late Monday, he laid out the responsibilities of his new office, Reuters reported.
“The Office will be responsible for managing President Trump’s correspondence, public statements, appearances, and official activities to advance the interests of the United States and to carry on the agenda of the Trump Administration through advocacy, organizing, and public activism,” the statement read.
Twitter, Trump’s preferred way to communicate, banned the former president earlier this month because of “the risk of further incitement of violence.”
Trump’s message, put out with the help of former campaign manager Brad Parscale, coincided with the delivery of the article of impeachment to the Senate. Trump is accused of inciting an insurrection on the Capitol three weeks ago, on Jan. 6, when lawmakers were certifying the Electoral College results.
The former president is the first to be impeached twice while in office.
https://www.ibtimes.com/whats-next-trump-his-plans-impeachment-article-hits-senate-3130886
Finally, some good news:
The Hill:
Tens of thousands of voters drop Republican affiliation after Capitol riot
More than 30,000 voters who had been registered members of the Republican Party have changed their voter registration in the weeks after a mob of pro-Trump supporters attacked the Capitol — an issue that led the House to impeach the former president for inciting the violence.
The massive wave of defections is a virtually unprecedented exodus that could spell trouble for a party that is trying to find its way after losing the presidential race and the Senate majority.
carolmalaysia I guess being a chameleon is hard work. CBK
I wonder how many of those are able to exit the group for good. Christian Picciolini, an ex-neo Nazi punk rock, is one of the few individuals who are trying to prevent extremism by these racist/terrorist thugs.
https://news.wttw.com/2020/07/07/former-neo-nazi-christian-picciolini-combating-rise-extremism
The matter MIGHT be discussed? Looks like the Orange Goon is going to get away with something once again.
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Palm Beach weighs options with Trump at Mar-a-Lago
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. — Former President Donald Trump has been living at his Mar-a-Lago club since leaving office more than a week ago — a possible violation of a 1993 agreement he made with the town of Palm Beach that limits stays to seven consecutive days.
Town Manager Kirk Blouin said in an email Thursday that Palm Beach is examining its options and the matter might be discussed at the town council’s February meeting.
The South Florida town last month received a letter from an attorney representing a Mar-a-Lago neighbor demanding it enforce the agreement’s residency clause — something it rarely, if ever, did when Trump was president or before. The unnamed neighbor believes Trump’s residency would decrease property values, according to Reginald Stambaugh’s letter.
Stambaugh did not return a call or email Thursday asking whether he has received a response.
Trump and former first lady Melania Trump changed their residency from New York City to Mar-a-Lago in 2019. His newly founded Office of the Former President forwarded emailed questions Thursday to the Trump Organization, the family’s business entity, which did not respond.
Last month, it issued a statement saying, “There is no document or agreement in place that prohibits President Trump from using Mar-A-Lago as his residence.” Trump owns two other homes near Mar-a-Lago…
http://digitaledition.chicagotribune.com/infinity/article_share.aspx?guid=8a536191-386d-469d-b8f6-bf42254306dc
I see a lot of pearl clutching up in neoliberal land in this post. Joe Biden, a Democrat, is 100% backing Navalny, an extremist right wing Russian politician with strong ties to the neo-Nazi movement in Russia. He’s on video tape mock executing muslim immigrants who he refers to as cockroaches. He is also a holocaust denier. That’s who you liberal morons support.
Do you support Vladimir Putin? You must, because he is Trump’s best friend and Trump always deferred to whatever Vlad wanted.
LibsGetItToo I thought the point of Biden “supporting” Navalny was to protest Putin’s thugs from poisoning and then jailing one’s political opponents on trumped-up charges, regardless of who they are . . . .
Perhaps you forgot . . . we don’t support that sort of thing . . . even if what you say about Navalny were true, . . .(and I don’t take it for truth because you wrote it here), the criteria for supporting him still holds. Also, if it were true, Biden’s support would fly-in-the-face of the criticism in other threads here that “we” only support those who agree with us. CBK