Joe Biden just signed the most sweeping economic relief package since the New Deal. He has addressed poverty and inequality directly and fearlessly. Trump could boast of a massive tax cut for the rich. Biden can boast of putting money in the pockets of most Americans at a time of dire need. The number of children in poverty, by most estimates, will be cut in half.
A significant and permanent decline in the child poverty rate—currently higher in the U.S. than in other industrialized nations—will improve the lives of not only children, but families and communities. Children will have better nutrition, better child care, better access to medical care, and more stable lives, as the economic prospects of their families improve.
The plan establishes the benefit for a single year. But if it becomes permanent, as Democrats intend, it will greatly enlarge the safety net for the poor and the middle class at a time when the volatile modern economy often leaves families moving between those groups. More than 93 percent of children — 69 million — would receive benefits under the plan, at a one-year cost of more than $100 billion.
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The bill, which is likely to pass the House and be signed by Mr. Biden this week, raises the maximum benefit most families will receive by up to 80 percent per child and extends it to millions of families whose earnings are too low to fully qualify under existing law. Currently, a quarter of children get a partial benefit, and the poorest 10 percent get nothing.
Robert Kuttner of The American Prospect calls this “a watershed moment” that could demonstrate to working people that government is on their side. He writes:
With the passage of the American Rescue Plan, people who voted for Donald Trump grasped that the government, under a Democratic president, is sending each of their kids at least $3,000 a year, paying for their health coverage if they lose their jobs, topping up their unemployment compensation, keeping their local governments from cutting services, and a great deal more.
Government, in friendly hands, just might be on the side of the people—in a way that is simple, direct, and not filtered through private profiteers. Imagine that. Reprogram some tax breaks for the very rich that do nothing for anyone else, and government might deliver even more.
All of this public outlay will boost the economy so much that conservatives, who once emphasized the need for fiscal discipline and business tax breaks, are now warning that direct government help to regular people might cause the economy to grow too fast. What a nice problem to have.
Activist government has been demonized for more than a generation. A great many working-class people, who saw government under both parties getting into bed with elites rather than providing practical help, joined in the demonizing. Now, they just may give government and the Democrats a second look.
The New York Times said that the rescue plan’s direct income support for children amounts to “a policy revolution.”
Obscured by other parts of President Biden’s $1.9 trillion stimuluspackage, which won Senate approval on Saturday, the child benefit has the makings of a policy revolution. Though framed in technocratic terms as an expansion of an existing tax credit, it is essentially a guaranteed income for families with children, akin to children’s allowances that are common in other rich countries.
The plan establishes the benefit for a single year. But if it becomes permanent, as Democrats intend, it will greatly enlarge the safety net for the poor and the middle class at a time when the volatile modern economy often leaves families moving between those groups. More than 93 percent of children — 69 million — would receive benefits under the plan, at a one-year cost of more than $100 billion.
The bill…raises the maximum benefit most families will receive by up to 80 percent per child and extends it to millions of families whose earnings are too low to fully qualify under existing law. Currently, a quarter of children get a partial benefit, and the poorest 10 percent get nothing.
Joe Biden has staked his presidency on policies that echo FDR. He is the right leader for the moment. I have and will criticize his education policies. Mandating testing in the middle of a pandemic is thoughtless and cruel. But in confronting a once in a century pandemic and economic peril, his leadership has been peerless. And as Robert Kuttner wrote, Biden may even persuade working people to vote in their own interest and not to be swayed by the endless culture wars (e.g., trans bathrooms, cancel culture, Colin K’s knee) that Republicans use to mask their lack of any economic policy that benefits the vast majority of Americans.

Biden and Harris will also embark on a “Help Is Here” tour of the US. These are not rallies.They are an attempt to reach out to the American people, which has been a huge failure of past Democrats. When Obama saved the economy in 2008, he chose to keep the victory low key. Biden and Harris want to reach out to the people so people will remember that Democrats rescued them while not a single Republican voted for the relief package.
This rescue plan may be Biden’s biggest achievement. He was smart to roll several issues into the package so he does not have to go back and fight over every small issue with Democrats like Manchin undermining the vote. If Biden does not reverse the testing plan this spring, my hope is that students will walk out and refuse to play the testing game by opting out! Beyond Covid Biden’s next biggest hurdle is immigration reform. We have a very volatile situation on the southern border. The right wing is already screaming “open borders,” and there are no simple solutions to the problem.
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Very well stated, retired! Reading many of the comments below kind of turns the glass half full/half empty metaphor perversely. Using their logic, if it’s not overflowingly full, it must be dry as dust. Truly weird. All or nothing griping really doesn’t make any sense at all in a democratic republic. FDR would have had a tough time with this crowd.
As for the “I don’t stimulus check” commentators, they also miss the point. The logic behind it is built on the Scandinavian/social democratic model they all profess to support. Broad-based policies that affect everyone equally, regardless of income, are the foundation of their social welfare programs. If there is any gripe to voice, it might be that there was not a repeal of the Idiot and Bush tax cuts, but I digress. Realistic pragmatism is just another “stab in the back” theory for this crowd. I guess the next gripe is that the Biden administration didn’t snap its collective fingers to instantly vaccinate everyone at once.
And if you don’t think you need, then get out and spend it. Give 30-40% tips if you go to a restaurant or have food delivered. Donate it an abused women’s shelter in your community. Money has to flow in this economy. Do your part. And quit griping about anything you don’t consider to be perfect. I’ll take the direction we’re moving in over anything that happened prior to January 6. Get a grip, folks.
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Thank you, Greg.
Common sense matters.
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Meanwhile, Ted Cruz is steaking out territory in response to Biden’s promise that we could celebrate on the 4th of July. Deplorable doesn’t begin to describe it.
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Speaking of Ted Cruz (UGH!): Quote – PRINCETON, NJ — Princeton University’s politics and debate society, the oldest in the country, has voted to strip Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) of its highest honor for his role in trying to overturn the Presidential elections.
The American Whig-Cliosophic Society voted to rescind the James Madison Award for Distinguished Public Service (JMA) on March 4.
This is the first time the society has voted to take back an award, said the Daily Princetonian, who first reported the story.
Cruz was given the JMA in 2016.
During the 90-minute assembly, 37 members voted in favor of rescinding the award, 32 voted against, and five people abstained.
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My question is who in their right mind would think it a good idea to give Cruz any kind of award in the first place. What were they smoking and what took them so long to rescind the award?!
https://patch.com/new-jersey/princeton/princeton-s-political-society-votes-rescinds-award-ted-cruz
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Zero support but maximum willful obstruction from the vile GOP. The GOP is more concerned about a “stolen election,” gun rights, the deficits (ha,ha,ha,ha,ha), Dr. Seuss, etc., ad nauseam. If it wasn’t so tragic, it would be laughable. We are truly fortunate that Trump didn’t get a 2nd shot at destroying our democracy.
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While I do not begrudge those who are in need their stimulus checks, I think that too many of us who are not truly needy (myself included) are receiving them. While I have lost income(salary cut and a furlough) during the pandemic, my family has been able to cut back on spending and weather our financial losses. I would rather see those who have lost jobs (as a number of my colleagues did) receive greater benefits and those of us who are getting though without major losses receive either none or less. I just wish more thought was put into how the money is apportioned.
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I agree with you….BUT….that would take too much time. We need to stop “the bleed” now before it gets so out of control that it can’t be reversed. The fraud/grift that happened with the last rounds of payouts was disappointing, but there were a lot of people who needed help immediately and they got some help. Just think of all the time it would take for numerous government agencies (who have been slowly defunded over the years) to produce that kind of data?
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Then take that money and donate it to a worthy cause or spend it at a local struggling business or buy enough meals at a local restaurant to distribute at your area soup kitchen.
We are supposed to put the money back into the economy which will help us all. I’m using mine so my dentist can repair some troublesome teeth so they don’t have to be pulled (something I’ve been putting off during the pandemic – $2200 repair).
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Exactly what I was going to say. Spend it. Schedule a home improvement or spring landscaping. Get take out or food delivery – and tip your server/driver generously. Put the money back into the local economy and it will be doing what it was intended for.
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Oh, it’s just $2 trillion. Republicans don’t care about deficits when they’re caused by tax cuts, so it naturally follows that there are no laws of economics.
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Much of the impact from the movie relief bill will be one time and short term.
A much long lasting impact could have been had if Biden had directed Harris to simply overrule the Senate parliamentarian and thereby allow the proposedd minimumm wage increase to be part of the relief bill under reconciliation.
Biden certainly could have easily done that and as Sanders and others have pointed out, it was absurd to allow an unelected official to effectively timely decide the fate of millions of Americans
It sure looks like Biden actually did not want the minimum wage increase to go through — despite his rhetoric to the contrary.
Ahttps://www.commondreams.org/news/2021/03/12/15-minimum-wage-would-lift-millions-out-poverty-says-wall-street-giant-morgan
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Covid relief
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Biden has effectively ceded his power and decisions to an unelected “Roberts Rules of Order” flunky.
It’s actually pathetic.
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It seems Biden was just giving lip service to the $15 minimum wage. Now we have Joe Manchin who wants to enact a permanent, poverty-level minimum wage of $11, which would be indexed to inflation, so that, in Joe Manchin’s own words, “… it should be indexed so it never becomes a political football again.”
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I don’t want a stimulus check because I do not need one. I am not impressed. We can well afford to wipe out childhood poverty 5x over. 50% being wiped out is like saying the surgeon repaired only half of a functioning heart valve. Not buying it.
https://imgflip.com/i/4djbnk
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The stimulus checkk will have a very short term effect.
It’s more for buying votes then anything else.
And effectively killing the minimum wage increase by allowing TG be Senate parliamentarian rulingbto stand is going to cost Democrats far more votes in the midterms than they will gain from the stimulus checks.
A recent analysis indicated that she increase in the minimum wage to $15 would impact 32 million workers.
The Democrats do such stupid things.
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And then they wonder why they have such a hard time against the worst Republican candidates possible.
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The Republican game plan is to stick to “culture war” issues and to avoid explaining why they have no plan whatever to help people out of work, people who can’t pay the rent or buy food.
The Republicans prefer to talk about Colin K’s knee, Dr. Seuss’s books, cancel culture, free speech for QAnon conspiracists, and transgender bathrooms.
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Actually, the stimulus check is not even for buyingg future votes.
It’s o pay for votes already bought.
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I wouldn’t discount the minimum wage just yet. Bernie Sanders is one stubborn, persistent old man. He just happens to also chair the Budget Committee.
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Not allowing it to be part of budget reconciliation guaranteed that passage wI’ll be exponentially harder.
it was basically a done deal if Biden had simply done what any president who was actually interested in increasing the min wage would have done: instructed his VP go overrule the parliamentarian, who was quite clearly not ruling on the facts, at any rate. Anyone who believes that a policy that increases the wages for 32 million Americans will have no significant impact on the federal budget is clueless.
the parliamentarian ruling is just incredibly lame. And everyone hiding behind her knows it.
I don’t believe Biden actually wants the minimum wage increased, which means he won’t allow it, no matter what Bernie does. The mere fact that Sanders is trying to get it passed actually decreases the chances that Biden will support it.
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SDM,
The Democrats do NOT do stupid things. They in general simply are not oriented to be progressive and leftist enough to truly make some paradigm shifts. Everything is about wishy-washy, safe-feeling (for them as politicinas) granular gradualism, and that does nothing except hold back progress, oppress people, and drive the sheeple to vote for the wrong candidates.
Nope. The Democrats are corporate most of the way. They’re just nicer and more polite about it.
Yeah, I know. They are better than Trump. I agree, but I am over that honeymoon.
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I consider it stupid to do things that will ensure you lose future elections and that is pre wisely what denying 32 million Americans a wage increase will do, especially when the Democrats ran on the promise of a $15 minimum wage.
Democrats obviously do a lot of things for their campaign contributors, but they also do lots of dumb things.
This is definitely one of the dumbest.
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And no one will ever accuse Biden of being a genius who plays eleven (or even 2) dimensional chess against his opponents.
Maybe eleven dementianal.
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Speaking of some Democrats who are among the worst people to still be breathing:
Yeah, I still will not even look at the GOP or Trump, who are stylistically different.
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Robert
It’s not necessary to say “but the Republicans and Trump are worse” every time you criticize the Democrats.
I fact, the very ideaa that criticizing the Democrats is tantamount to agreeing with and supporting the Republicans is just absurd.
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Or worse than absurd when it is done to keep people in line.
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Though such efforts to keep people in line were commonplace during the last election.
If you said anything critical of Biden, you were tarred and feathered and labeled a Trump troll.
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Thanks, SDM. I appreciate the analysis. I try to be careful and sensitive to those here who are not really into my lamenting about the Democrats. I speak to 8 people in French and Italian every week, three days a week, and it’s hard to listen to what they have accomplished there, all to see it spun here as “communism and socialism and big government talking away our liberties”. If Biden’s administration had anything right, they would follow Bernie’s lead. We need not just an FDR or LBJ moment, we need an FDR and LBJ movement.
I don’t appreciate Randi blowing with the wind and being the usual and predictable hypocrite she is. SHE is a true shonda for justice and democracy. But worse than her is the power structure that she has arranged for her to stay in power for far too long. She puts the lack of term limits in Congress on steroids when it comes to the AFT.
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Wait, now I’m supposed to demonize the teachers’ union because Randi Weingarten worked to give money to private schools?
What is wrong with the teachers union that they support this? As this article demonstrates, the union is corrupt and doesn’t care one bit about the most vulnerable students in public schools, they care about pleasing their corporate masters. How can anyone support the teachers union at all?
And please don’t tar and feather me and label me as a Trump troll just because I am saying something critical about the teachers union. The very idea that criticizing the teachers union means that I agree with and support the Republicans is just absurd. I’m just giving some “honest” criticism about how simply awful the teachers union is and making sure to characterize the very worst actions of Randi Weingarten as if that action reflects the entirety of what the teachers’ union is all about. And if such “honest” criticism of the teachers union just happens to convince the public that the entire teachers union is a corrupt and greedy institution that has no redeeming qualities at all, and gets the public to stop supporting the teachers union, well it’s not my fault at all and the union has only itself to blame. So I know I have both your support as I turn any wrong move by Randi Weingarten into a sweeping condemnation of the entire teachers union. If you don’t like it, blame the union.
I happen to find this action by Schumer and Weingarten reprehensible. But it is possible to strongly criticize them without turning the criticism into a wholesale bashing of the Democrats or a wholesale bashing of the teachers union. Imagine some public school parent in anti-union Texas or Florida reading the article and thinking “oh yeah, figures the union is corrupt, glad my public school’s teachers aren’t forced to join that corrupt union.”
I wrote the above paragraph in the hopes that it might make you think about why people objected to the tone of your criticism. If I turned criticism of Randi Weingarten for this action into a wholesale (and dishonest) condemnation of the entire teachers union in a way that would make readers believe there is nothing good at all about the union, wouldn’t you object, too? And wouldn’t you question my motives?
Schumer and Weingarten were absolutely wrong to do this. They deserve to be criticized for their actions. But that is very different than turning that criticism into a wholesale attack on the teachers’ union or the Democrats, both of which ALSO do many good things that cannot be ignored because the good things don’t fit the false narrative of “Democrats and teachers unions are just corporate shills.”
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Interesting take. I remember how you and one other person on these comments section treated critics of Mr. Biden when we provided factual information about him.
Mt. Biden has proven to be who his critics on the left pointed him out to be: he punted on the $15 minimum wage and his campaign promise to provide relief for student debt has withered away. His stated pledge to give $2,000 stimulus checks (easily verified and repeated by several Democrats) was whittled down to $1,400.
First-world nations have been providing between 60 to 80 percent of lost wages to workers during the pandemic. Here, we have Democrats, whittling away an extra $600.
And how can we forget his promise to end high-stakes testing? Even Cruella DeVos did away with testing last year!
Joe Biden is an expert at portraying empathy, while denying and delaying permanent, meaningful reform.
This is the third term of Bill Clinton/Barack Obama. We will lose the WH in 2024, but at least the DNC’s donors will be happy.
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You nailed it, Eleanor!!
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NYCPSP,
Take David Coleman’s advice (blecchhhhh!) and do a close reading. I understand what you are saying and don’t necessarily disagree with all of it, but I did use the phrase “SOME DEMOCRATS” . . . and the “teachers’ union” has to be parsed out with differences between those who govern it with power and those who are dues paying members. The two are not the same politically, mark my words. The Democrats must do better. Where there’s a will . . .
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Democrats must do better. I agree. That is why I am also very critical of Schumer, just like I’m critical of Randi Weingarten.
There is a difference between being critical and demonizing.
AOC is very critical of Democrats. But she doesn’t demonize them and push the false narrative that there is absolutely nothing good about them and they are entirely the tools of Wall Street.
I often see very good criticism of Randi Weingarten here, but like AOC’s criticism of the Democrats, it isn’t about demonization and there is no underlying message that the entire union is corrupt and useless, just like the Democrats are corrupt and useless.
Pushing a false narrative to demonize a flawed institution that also does some good doesn’t make that flawed institution better — it helps to undermine and destroy it. AOC knows that and so do most people here when it comes to talking about the teachers union and Randi.
I support the union electing better leaders than Randi and she needs to be strongly criticized in order to make that happen. And I support the democrats electing better leaders than Schumer and he needs to be strongly criticized in order to make that happen. I almost always agree with AOC’s criticism because of how it is done.
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Eleanor and RRendo: This link tracks Biden on student loans https://www.nerdwallet.com/article/loans/student-loans/joe-biden-student-loans. Doesn’t translate to a ‘withered away’ campaign promise. $1400 chex as a backpedal on campaign promise is a red herring, sounds like a Rep talking point https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/biden-ossoff-warnock-checks-2000/ We can argue about whether Biden should have directed Harris to override parliamentarian on min wage: that was clearly a political decision [I’m 50-50 on it]. Meanwhile you’ve decided to ignore the $350 billion for state/ localities fought tooth & nail by Reps, not to mention the first expansion to ACA in a decade, and revolutionary childcare assistance.
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I’m with you, Bethree. Biden’s plan was opposed by every Republican. $1.9 trillion to help the nation recover is extraordinary. Give Biden credit. Why nitpick?
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bethree,
Have you noticed how frequently the very few critics here who seem over the top in their “democrats are just like Republicans” attacks repeat right wing talking points?
I never hear AOC repeat them, nor do I hear Bernie Sanders repeating that dishonest propaganda.
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Okay to all here . . . Diane, et al.
The glass is more filled when it comes to Biden. Yes, it’s better than what the GOP wanted, although I read that the Trump’s proposed language would not allow the tax man AND the credit card companies to garnish anyone’s $1,400 check, unlike Biden’s plan, which does.
That said, I agree that we are not getting “nothing” out of this Biden administration (well, we ARE compared to Western European and Scandinavians). Yet, Biden should have instructed arris to override parliamentarian on the minimum wage.
But Diane et al, when you want to change the paradigm as FDR and LBJ did, I don’t know how anyone can choose the word “nitpick” consciously . . .
Baffled, flummoxed, and confused . . . .
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If Biden had the 2/3 majority control of Congress, he could certainly accomplish far more. But he has a 50-50 tie in the Senate, with VP Harris needed to break a tie.
One dissident Senator like Manchin, who is not liberal, can block legislation.
And his margin in the House is a handful of votes.
If FDR had the same margins, there would have been no New Deal.
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Harry S Truman was a champion of Medicare in the late 1940s. LBJ even honored him and gave him credit when he was able to sign it into law more than 15 years after Truman. But Harry Truman didn’t get it done. I suppose if we were judging Truman by today’s standards, Truman was a fraud who only pretended to support Medicare when he secretly was doing what corporations and the medical lobby wanted.
Does anyone remember that FDR had to remove an extensive health care benefit from the legislation that became his important 1935 Social Security Act? Traitor! Capitalist! FDR only did that because he did whatever big money told him to do. If FDR had been subject to those attacks, no doubt he would have been soundly (and the left would say correctly) defeated in 1936 because FDR was not to be trusted and had already sold out progressives.
Give Biden a chance. He won’t get it all done. But he will get some of it done, which will require some compromises.
Look at how the Republicans have been so successful in pushing this country to the far right by ignoring what their candidates have failed to do (is all abortion illegal in America yet?) and emphasizing what they did do (“we got some more judges”) It was a decades long process that turned this country to the far right from where it was under LBJ.
The right wingers put a lot of pressure on the Republican Party. They even had their own candidates – “Tea Party” – that didn’t run as 3rd party but in the primary. They lost at first. And then they won. Because those pushing the far right narrative didn’t try to damage the Republican “brand”. They just worked to change the people who carried the mantle. Notice Trump won’t start a 3rd party because the people who back him understand that isn’t the way to get what they want.
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Diane, then Biden should use Harris accordingly! You said that you support $15/hr and that employers can pay more if they want to. When was the last time you lived on $15/hr? I am privileged, but I would not want to wish a non-living wage upon anyone. $15 and hour is not a living wage unless basics like rent, public transpiration, childcare, and healthcare have their pricing regulated. Good luck with that. Or am I too leftist for this forum? Or too European?
And NYCPSP, FDR removed the healthcare system because he feared all the rest of the package he pushed for would create a backlash. I agree that it should have been included.
I don’t know that capitalism was at FDR’s motivational base or if he felt he finally got the plutocrats good and scared (which they should have been, given what happened to Czar Nicolas and his family!) and he did not want to make them think twice. The Czar, his children and wife were murdered brutally. I will never underestimate the danger of ignoring history, which is here for us to learn from, hopefully not to repeat terrible mistakes. I fear greatly misplaced anger and civil strife, if not war, and now is not the time to not change the paradigm based on what people want and need, plain and simple. I don’t find the child tax credit revolutionary in the sense that there is no regulation for child care facility fees. It’s more money to spend on a free market system. Combine the tax credit with such regulations, and then we can use the adjective “revolutionary” as one reader here posed.
About AOC et al: Yes, she does not speak out the way I do about the Democrats, but I am NOT a Senator or Congressman . . . . If I decide to run for either, you can be my campaign manager . . . You’re hired. How much do you cost . . .
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Robert, I would support $20 an hour as a minimum wage, but right now the Senate is unwilling to endorse an increase from $7.25 an hour to $15 an hour.
$15 is a start, especially if you are being paid $7.25.
No, I could not live on $15 an hour, and I don’t think people should have to do so.
That’s why the rebirth of unions is absolutely necessary, so they can negotiate better wages, healthcare, and a pension.
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Robert,
AOC doesn’t talk like that because she is honest. It has nothing to do with her being a politician – she stands up loud and clear for things she believes in, but she doesn’t exaggerate or mislead. She speaks the truth.
You may speak your truth, but I don’t agree with your truth because it does not match the reality I see. I do happen to also support many of the same policies that you support, but that is not enough to make me your campaign manager at any price because I’d do a lousy job trying to justify why anyone should support a candidate whose vision of reality does not match my own. I like my candidates who see the same reality that I see.
We agree that we need a $15/hour federal minimum wage, if not more. We don’t agree on the world view of the vast democratic conspiracy in which the Democratic party has conspired to prevent that (and any progressive legislation) from happening because the Democratic party is the embodiment of corruption, greed, and evil. But hey, that is certainly the same world view of most Trump voters and D-77 so maybe one of them can be your campaign manager.
In your reality, I suspect you are now are certain that I do not condone any criticism of the Democrats and that I believe that everything the Democrats do is perfect. That isn’t my reality, but our issue is not disagreement on policy (as we agree on much policy) but our disagreement on reality. I don’t think the Dems are perfect and I like criticism of the kind that comes from AOC which is truth-based, evidence-based because AOC and I have the same reality even when we disagree on policy. You and I seem to have different realities even when we agree on policy.
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“Biden’s Rescue Plan Will Cut Child Poverty in Half!”
No it won’t! Who believes that BS? I’ve seen that repeated over and over in the last couple of days! Horse Manure it is.
It will help a lot of people, myself included, no doubt! But the structural inequalities built into the capitalist system as is obtained in the USofA will need addressing at the most fundamental level. . . and that won’t happen with the Dims nor with the Rethugs being bought off by those who are on the top end of the SES ladder.
The first order of business should be a progressive tax structure that has those with the most paying the vast majority back to the rest of us from whom they stole it. The second order of business should be to cut the MIC back to a semi-sane level, maybe 1/10 of what it is now-a true peace dividend. Third is universal healthcare for all eliminating the profit taking that occurs in the current health care mode. Fourth properly fund and staff with certified personnel to reduce class size to under 15 in K-8 and to under 20 for high school, and to maintain facilities properly providing a safe learning environment. Fifth, rank order voting in all elections. Sixth massive investment from the MIC to national infrastructure repair, maintenance and upgrade.
I can go on with more, but this temporary plan will not cut child poverty in half.
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Oh, and the minimum wage should be at least $20/hour.
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At least $20 is at least $15, right?
the Democrats have FAR more respect for the “parliamentarian” (who gets paid $ 170k, by the way) than they have for minimum wage earners.
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Yes – absolutely…. let’s increase the minimum wage for all (including high schoolers) to $20. Let’s slowly cause all small businesses go under and Amazon and Walmart can take over everything. Their prices will just go up to absorb the cost of wage increase….. causing massive inflation with less choice….. and we will be back to square one – except there will be no local businesses.
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Ha ha!
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I believe there should be a minimum wage hike, but I think it needs to be closely examined. I am glad that it got taken out of the Relief Bill. A $15 minimum wage would likely help those who live in more poverty stricken states (the South, Appalachia etc), but it would do little to help those living in NYC or other northern urban areas. I believe that a State’s Minimum wage should relate to the cost of living in the state/area.
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The federal minimum wage is $7.25. That is not a living wage. It is way below the poverty line in every state. I am for $15 an hour nationally, with employers able to pay more if they want.
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I am all for an increase . . . but it’s complex and I don’t think 16 yr olds should be making the same as 30 yr workers. Someone who has difficulty finding high wage jobs and must take a minimum wage job at the age of 30, is different than a 16 year old getting their first job. When I started working the min wage for students was about $3.20 an hour. I can’t imagine having earned the same as someone who is a low skilled worker but in their 20’s and 30’s.
Brining back manufacturing jobs would be another big step. Losing manufacturing jobs in the 80’s (which paid well because they were skilled jobs – but ones that didn’t require a college degree and provided on the job training) was devastating to many communities. Fast food jobs and customer service can’t capture all that is needed to provide good incomes for a wide range of people.
As long as companies can produce goods cheaper out of the country – a minimum wage increase in the U.S. is not going to be enough.
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Many, many families depend on the wages earned by their teenage members in order to keep their heads above water. Paying teenagers the same minimum wage as everyone else might allow those kids to work fewer hours, leaving more time for their studies and pursuing activities like sports and the arts. A fair minimum wage should also increase parents’ wages and reduce their dependence on the wages of their kids.
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https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2019/home.htm
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The claim that increasing the minimum wage to even $15 will cause all small businesses to go under is little more than a Republican talking point.
It’s not supported by any evidence.
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Increasing the minimum wage too high, too fast could lead to inflation and job loss. All small businesses may not fold….. but they may have to reduce staff or increase prices to absorb the cost of the increase.
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absorb the cost = less profit for the profiteers/capitalists, oops I mean owners.
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And by the way, Walmart is one of the employees that benefits handsomely from the current low minimum wage.
If the minimum were raised go $15, they would have to pay their employees a lot more — and not just the ones making minimum wage.
Among other things, that would mean a lot of Walmart workers who are now reliant on governnent help would no longer be. Which. Ask a?my puts the lie to the parliamentarians idiotic argument that raising the minimum wage has no budgetary impact.
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https://www.commondreams.org/newswire/2020/11/18/taxpayers-subsidize-poverty-wages-walmart-mcdonalds-other-large-corporations-gao
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Where is the evidence?
Links please.
I do appreciate your honesty, however.
Lots of people — including Biden — claim they support the $15 minimum wage but act in ways that indicate just the opposite.
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To pass a minimum wage, Biden needs a majority of votes in Congress.
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You may be right.
But Walmart will ultimately pass absorb the increase to the price of their products. Or they will decrease staff….. less employment. They are not going to decrease their profits to make way for an increase in employee $$.
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If you don’t already BOYCOTT WALMART!
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If a 16 year old works the same hours as an adult and is doing the work properly, then he/she should get the minimum wage (adjusting for experience and years spent on the job). Most teens only work part time any how. In Denmark, workers at fast food places get $22/hour and above and the food prices are not any higher than in the US.
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Whoops, correction on Denmark from USA Today Jan. 2, 2021:
But Denmark lacks a federally mandated minimum wage, according to Investopedia. However, trade unions work to ensure that workers are paid a reasonable rate and try to keep the average minimum wage at $20 per hour. As of 2020, minimum wages in the country hover around $16.60 per hour, according to Check In Price.
Minimum-wage.org, says Denmark’s average minimum wage is $18 per hour and annual minimum wage is $44,252.00. A November 2020 article from Market Watch says wages in Scandinavia are among the highest in the world at $17.69 per hour. end quote
These minimum wage earners don’t have to worry about heath care costs or student debt.
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Folks might be interested in reading the symposium on the minimum wage in the latest Journal of Economic Perspectives. The articles in this journal are not very technical and can be downloaded without charge. Here is the link: https://www.aeaweb.org/issues/623?to=13998
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“To pass a minimum wage, Biden needs a majority of votes in Congress.”
He needs more than a majority as things currently stand to end a potential filibuster.
But it’s not as if the President has no influence in the matter of votes.
And it’s not a matter of changing a lot of Democratic minds in Congress.
By most reckonings, Biden is extremely close (within just 2 recalcitrant Democratic Senate votes?) to having the simple majority required to throw out the filibuster AND pass the minimum wage increase along with all his other policy plans.
Sometimes, you have to recognize the opportunity and go after it.
From my experience as an engineer I learned that there are always people who say “it can’t be done”.
I don’t believe it in this case.
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SDP, I don’t think Biden is passing up the chance to enact his agenda. He wants to make a mark in history. FDR is his model. FDR and LBJ both had large majorities in Congress. At the next election in 2022, we need a blue wave to sweep out the GQP Titans.
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Instead of increasing the minimum wage the federal government could subsidize employment of low salary workers. Basically run the social security tax collecting system in reverse, similar to the earned income tax credit. This should 1) cause employers to want to increase the number of people hired because they cost the employer less and 2) cause employers and employees to want to formally employ the the workers in order to qualify for the subsidy. A minimum wage pushes in the opposite direction, 1) discouraging employers from hiring workers and 2) encouraging employers to hire people illegally off the books.
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The Democrats a!ways seem to be waiting for something.
Exactly what, I’m not sure.
But Biden does not need to wait for a Blue wave in 2022.
He could have easily gotten a minimum wage increase simply by ibstructing his VP to overrule the Senate parliamentarian and then twisting a few recalcitrant Senators arms to get the 50 votes plus Harris tiebreaker needed in the Senate.
And he could still get it without waiting by getting the Democratic Senate to throw out the filibuster.
If Biden wants to be FDR 2, he needs to act like FDR.
Would FDR have let an unelected “Senate parliamentarian” stand in the way of one of his policy goals?
Based on what I know about him, I’d just say ” Ha ha ha . Good one!
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FDR won in a landslide in 1932 and had a 2/3 majority in both houses of Congress.
To compare Biden, who has a razor-thin majority, to FDR, who had the votes to pass anything, is unfair.
During the long administration of President Franklin D. Roosevelt (1933 to 1945), the Democratic Party controlled both houses of Congress. As a result, the Democrats obtained 60 of the 96 existing Senate seats and 318 of the existing 435 House seats; hence the party controlled two-thirds of Congress.
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I was not the one who first brought up FDR and invited the comparison.
And I’d just have to say there are a lot of people who can’t wait two more years for an increase in their wages.
The just don’t have the luxury.
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I support an immediate increase in the minimum wage but one or two Democratic senators do not. Biden can’t pass a bill without a majority.
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For people worried about raising the minimum wage causing inflation, I have a few different suggestions that wouldn’t cause inflation:
Worker ownership of the means of production. If we all have to buy the products that we are making for the companies we own, we would have incentive not to raise prices beyond what we can afford. Socialism is really the only way out of this mess.
But if you’re not ready for that, how about tying maximum executive compensation (total, including things like stock options) to minimum wage. No executive should be able to make more in a month than their lowest paid employee makes in a year. That would give employers incentive to keep employee wages as high as possible so their own wages can be high.
Allow certain smaller, newer businesses just trying to get off the ground that can’t afford minimum wage to offer ownership percentage to their workers in lieu of a minimum wage. Then workers would be free to take the gamble on accepting low wages in the short term in exchange for the possibility of owning a piece of something that could be big. It would also motivate employees to work extra hard to make the business successful.
Anyone who opposes minimum wage and all the alternatives above simply wants workers to suffer with poverty wages, presumably because they think they are superior and “deserve” to get paid more than those “lowly” broom pushers and burger flippers.
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Way to damn common sensical, Dienne. We can be having our freedumbs trampled on by not being able to be avaricious bastards.
Workers cooperatives for all! See Mondragon for a working viable example.
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I spent time on a kibbutz and have relatives who were born on them and lived their entire lives there (now in their 70s and 80s).
It was very interesting to see the devolution of the socialist ideal as it was confronted with reality. The values remain, but there were quite a few adjustments made over the decades and even with those, some people left.
I think there is a middle ground that is more similar to western European countries. I think naming that system causes unnecessary problems — call it democratic socialism and some people get turned off. Call it capitalism and other people get turned off. There isn’t a huge gulf between Elizabeth Warren (“capitalist”) and Bernie Sanders (“socialist) but there is a huge gulf between Elizabeth Warren (“capitalist”) and Milton Friedman (“capitalist”). Bernie and Warren know that they share the same values and can work together to make a better system, which is probably not exactly what either believes is perfect but nothing is. There isn’t a perfect system. But there is a BETTER system.
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Joe Jersey, you’ve also nailed it!
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The plan establishes the benefit for a single year. But if it becomes permanent, as Democrats intend”
If that is really what Democrats intend, then they — and, critically, this includes Biden — MUST also not only intend to get rid of the filibuste but actually do it.
But right now, at least two Democrats in the Senate are adamantly opposed to getting rid of the filibuster and we have not heard a peep from Biden on the issue, who will almost certainly have to apply public pressure on those two Senators to get them to “change their mind” (if that’s what he wants, he can do it)
The fact is, unless the Democrats get rid of the filibuster, pretty much nothing else that they “intend” is going to get done.
That’s the reality, So the proof of their intentions is in whether they show the will to get rid of filibuster.
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And not incidentally, if they get rid of filibuster, the Dems can also follow through with their proclaimed intention to raise the miinimum wage go $15.
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Wow all the naysaying on here surprises me. The clock can’t be turned back 40 yrs by one admin in its first month.
The argument against stimulus checks especially— ‘I don’t need it’, ‘just for buying votes.’ Have you forgotten that the fed suppt to unempl ins expired 7/31? My instrument-teaching millennial sons’ barely-working-class incomes took huge hits when lessons went online, and have been slowly recovering since. Obviously Biden’s $300 suppt going forward is much more significant: it will get them through building back up to pre-covid hours, getting vaccinated, gradually going back to all in-person. But $1400 is hardly nothing. It’s equivalent to adding another month to the unempl ins suppt for them, the 30million unemployed, and the 50+ million at and below their income level.
The $15 minimum wage is more complex. But not exactly revolutionary. Already, 29 states plus DC peg min wage above the fed rate. 9 of those are between $10-$15 now. FL started a 5-yr path to $15/hr last year. A number of large cities are at or above $15/hr [DC, NYC, LA], plus Seattle and a dozen other CA cities incl SF. Biden never specified a timeline for implementation, nor would he comment on the House-passed ‘Raise the Wage Act’ 6-yr plan.
Meanwhile is it smart to pass it during pandemic? Pre-covid, only 2% of US’ 82million hrly workers earned at or below fed min wage. They are almost entirely in restaurant and travel/ tourism, arguably hardest hit by pandemic. Doubling their wages over a 5-yr period should/ must be done, but how is it practical to start until post-covid recovery of those sectors?
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I agree. Some people never take yes for an answer. The stimulus package is historic and intended to revive the economy—not by giving tax cuts to the rich (trickle down) but by direct payments the those in need and those likeliest to spend the money and create jobs.
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“Pre-covid, only 2% of US’ 82million hrly workers earned at or below fed min wage.”
That implies that raising the wage to $15 would only impact a relatively small number.
That is very far from the reality.
Raising the federal minimum wage to $15 by 2025 would lift the pay of 32 million workers: A demographic breakdown of affected workers and the impact on poverty”
https://www.epi.org/publication/raising-the-federal-minimum-wage-to-15-by-2025-would-lift-the-pay-of-32-million-workers/
And, by the way, naysayers are not those who say we can and should do something (Be, “we can and should raise the federal min to $15 an hour”)
They are those who say we can’t and should not.
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That’s a good link, thanks, SDP, much better than my attempts to analyze BLS figures. I didn’t actually think only the 2% would be helped, my concern there illustrates my floating worry about making this change during pandemic, with so many low-wage businesses struggling/ closed and 30million out of work.
However, I see I can use my “hardly revolutionary” concept for reassurance: 62% of the states are already on this path. And they’re much closer than I realized, using a link showing state min wages for 2021: 22 states (not 9) are already between $10-$15 this year. Another 3 are already at the level ‘Raise the Wage Act’ set for 2021—so that’s 50% of the nation that would not have to raise wages during what’s hopefully our last pandemic-hobbled year. Another 6 would only need under a dollar raise to get there.
This link supports what you say about parliamentarian vs VP decision: https://www.peoplespolicyproject.org/2021/03/02/the-parliamentarian-does-not-decide-byrd-rule-questions/
Therefore clearly a political decision. I reserve judgment on that. There are 18 states which would have to raise min wage 30+% just in the first year– and GA, the outlier, 84%.
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There is also the report just released by a Morgan Stanley Research
$15 minimum wage would lift millions out of poverty with ‘limited negative effects’ on aggregate income, Morgan Stanley says
https://www.businessinsider.com/15-minimum-wage-lift-millions-out-of-poverty-morgan-stanley-2021-3
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Some of the criticisms here remind me of that old joke: Friend 1: The food in this restaurant is awful. Friend 2: I know and the portions are much too small.
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Is that a bastardized Yogiism?
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