Let’s say for the moment that you are the President. Let’s say you are addressing the national convention of the Boy Scouts.
What would you say to them? I would talk about the value of their organization in teaching character: integrity, hard work, kindness, and other virtues. I would talk about Boy Scouts who grew up to make great contributions to our society.
With Trump, it is always about Trump. Trump family values. Me first.
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WOW! That DUMP can really LIE. Too bad the Boy Scouts is a captive audience. I would have walked out. Actually, I would have NEVER attended. I would have told my parents, “Please keep me home.”
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He bashed Obama for never attending a Jamboree, when that was because of Boy Scouts anti-gay policies. Leave it to Drumpf to turn a Boy Scout Jamboree into something akin to a Nazi youth rally. And how about Secretary of HHS, Dr. Tom Price, that devout Christian, laughing like the useful idiot he is, along with the President. And meanwhile our supposedly responsible civic leaders, both Republican and Democrat, remain largely silent. Sad.
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As usual, Trump made a fool of himself. The Scouts deserved better.
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He can’t lower the bar any further without renting a back hoe.
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Loyality “he needs loyality”
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How disgusting. He certainly doesn’t have a clue on how to relate to Boy Scouts. But then, who does he relate to in any meaningful way? People who are impressed with his flashy show of money are the ones who put up a false show of being loyal.
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Seriously, he’s talking to boy scouts?! This is alarming and here’s just one small “gem” from his vomit load of word garbage: “And he [William Levitt] went out and bought a big yacht and he had a very interesting life. I won’t go any more than that because you’re Boy Scouts, I’m not going to tell you what he did – should I tell you? Should I tell you? Oh, you’re Boy Scouts, but you know life, you know life. So, look at you, who would think this is the Boy Scouts, right?” Someone needs to put a net over this psycho and cart him off to the nearest padded cell.
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Joe, yes!
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How does Donald Trump relate to teens?
One of Don Jr’s college classmates says his father slapped him to the ground in front of others st College because Sr did not like the way he was dressed:
https://www.google.com/amp/amp.www.complex.com/life/2016/11/donald-trump-jr-college-classmate-claims-trump-knocked-son-ground-in-front-friends-once
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These Scouts are representative of the whole country—not the insulated beltway. The President thought enough of these boys to accept their invitation. It was a thrill to them to even see the president and it was motivational. The kids loved him! Don’t start with the Nazi garbage and the gay issue—that is not what it is all about. The boys are not interested in that. It is love of country, respect, service, doing what you love and striving to reach a goal that inspires these kids. My son was there in the late 90s and an experience he would never trade. Don’t sully a moment because you don’t like the man.
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Quote: “It is love of country, respect, service, doing what you love and striving to reach a goal that inspires these kids.”
I agree. That isn’t what Trump said to these boys.
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Here’s just one of the stupid comments he made to the boy scouts: “By the way, are you [Tom Price] going to get the votes? He [Tom Price] better get them. He better get them. Oh, he better – otherwise I’ll say, Tom, you’re fired. I’ll get somebody. He better get Senator Capito [Republican West Virginia senator Shelley Moore Capito] to vote for it. You got to get the other senators to vote for it. It’s time. After seven years of saying repeal and replace Obamacare, we have a chance to now do it. They better do it.”
What the hell does that have to do with boy scouts? And that’s just one of the stupid non sequiturs that he made at the gathering.
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Trump is beneath contempt.
For the first time in my life, I am ashamed to be an American.
We will come through this tragedy.
But we must keep our bearings.
We must remember what America is supposed to be.
Trump=bigotry, stupidity, ignorance, egotism, narcissism.
We are better than that.
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Those of us who are criticizing our Dear Leader for his behavior in front of the Boy Scouts are not “sully[ing] the moment” because we “don’t like the man.” Our Dear Leader did that completely on his own. And to call him a “man” is really stretching it.
This was another example of our Dear Leader striving to create an American policy of Gleichschaltung…just like Hitler did with the German Boy Scouts.
My youngest son just earned the rank of Tenderfoot. He figured out that what our Dear Leader did was wrong completely on his own.
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“The boys are not interested in that.”
Perhaps, but therein lies the problem.
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I have to disagree. The guy sullies himself and the scouts by his raunchy and self-centered language–the exact opposite of the updated Boy Scout ethic
The President of the United States is absolutely promoting the “boys will be boys” code as if that is a badge of honor for the Boy Scouts, the youngest of these 13. The moment should be regarded as anything but inspiring and unworthy of praise, admiration. If the Scouts wanted a role model, a real hero and motivational speaker they should NOT have asked TRUMP. I hope the scouts and scountmasters and parents of scouts are not as “it’s ok” as you are.
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Very well stated, Laura!
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April, the man I don’t like has already sullied the moment. Regardless of my input or that of others he made the thrill of a lifetime into something disgusting. While the nation and the world watched. Now, a don’t for you……don’t tell others how they should react. You choose your position, to defend trump and you look in your mirror and tell yourself you chose the correct action. I have to look myself in the eye in every mirror and I must react on the basis of my values and world view. The president used the BSA leadership and membership yesterday to carry out a corrupt mission, while calling our government a cesspool. He is a bizarre predator and that is what this is all about. If anyone feels the urge to bring up Nazi or homosexual issues then so be it. At this particular time that is our right as it is yours to defend the trumpty dumpty who dove off of his ledge yesterday and whose minions just put him back together again. Any parent who takes the position of being offended and appalled has my support. As for those who pretend this was an honor……I wish you well with your delusion.
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Are you outside of your mind, April? This was the most disgusting display this slimeball has ever done! You don’t a problem with him ranting, swearing, and speaking in double entendres to 12-17 year old boys? You have bought into his slimy behavior hook, line, and sinker. I weep for this country with people like you in it.
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Too bad Trump doesn’t share those values. If
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April,
What a humiliation to the Boy Scouts to be addressed by this fool.
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I agree that in every other instance, with every other president, it was inspirational for Boy Scouts to see the President, whether the Scouts were on the same side of the aisle or not. I’m sure they were very excited to see President Trump. Which makes his handling of the situation – the only president in the history of talking to BSA to be blatantly partisan and to basically break half of the Boy Scout laws during his speech – all the worse.
I have not spoken to any boys about this yet, but I have spoken to several leaders – men who have devoted decades of their lives to boys well after their own have grown. Men who are the epitome of service and honor. They come from many different backgrounds and political points of view, but all were saddened or horrified by the remarks at this event.
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What would I say to the Boy Scouts? Well, since you asked, I’d tell them to end their discrimination against gays – for real this time. Yeah, yeah, I know, they did (for scouts in 2013 and for leaders in 2015), but there are still exemptions based on “religious beliefs”, so individual troops can still discriminate to their hearts’ content. Sure, if you’re gay in Oak Park, Illinois, you can now be a Boy Scout and even a leader. Bully for you. But if you’re gay in Owen County, Indiana? Well, better luck next life. Until the BSA makes a blanket statement of inclusion (as the Girl Scouts do, incidentally), rather than just well, we don’t really exclude (uncross fingers here), then the organization is still bigoted.
As for what Trump actually said, who cares? What was anyone expecting him to say? What genius allowed him the opportunity anyway?
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This AH needs to be impeached yesterday, not tomorrow.
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He’s a fool!
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I always like to read what BBC has to say. Looks like Trump’s message to the Boy Scouts didn’t go over very well. (Gee, I wonder why?)
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BBC:
Trump boy scout Jamboree speech angers parents
…But in a rambling 35-minute speech, Mr Trump whipped up a response of boos, cheers, chants and jeers as he lambasted fake news, Hillary Clinton’s election campaign and President Obama’s failure to address a Jamboree in person…
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-40715185
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Drumpf and the BSA – Hitler Youth, anyone?
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Be Prepared.
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An interesting lesson from history: Hans Scholl, who was summarily executed with his sister and his best friends from the university in Munich for their resistance activities against the Nazis, was drawn to the Nazi movement as a youth. He was active and a leader in his local chapter of the German Boy Scouts. His opposition and resistance to the Nazis grew out of his resentment over the Hitler Youth’s absorption of the Boy Scouts. He was even detained and served time in a youth jail for his open opposition to the Gleichschaltung of the Boy Scouts into the Hitler Youth. After he was released, he continued to try to keep his troop together outside of the Hitler Youth.
Let us hope that future leaders of the resistance against American fascism will someday point to our Dear Leader’s “speech” in West Virginia as the inspiration and motivation to their activities to restore respect for constitutional principles, decency and civic virtue to our nation. Perhaps he has sown the seeds of his movement’s demise.
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Awesome response and so well-informed! Danke schön
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Trump makes me sick.
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He basically proved that he can have his way with thousands of thirteen year olds in plain view and NOBODY will do anything about it. His minions Sec Perry and Sec Price stood there grinning and guffawing and heehawing and clapping. The BSA left the mics on and the boys clapped, cheered and practiced for their future in his reich. What more can he do to show that he will molest our values and corrupt our youth? He is in it to win it and unless upstanding men circumvent he is taking us down. He is the source of the cesspool. His putrid verbal vomit, 24/7 emitting from his mouth and thumbs tells us continuously who he is and what he is about and his minions just carry on aiding and abetting. We all stand around wringing hands, typing posts, keeping an eye on the news that we wish were fake.
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Salon has an article about how “stunned” the Boy Scouts are by Trump’s speech: http://www.salon.com/2017/07/25/the-boy-scouts-are-stunned-by-donald-trumps-jaw-dropping-speech/
You make a good point, though. They controlled the mics. Why didn’t they simply turn him off?
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I already called the BSA main office in Texas and told them exactly that. The BSA officials should have vetted the speech in advance, and insist that he followed it. Since they didn’t vet it, they should have stopped him during the speech. At the very least, they should have spoken to all of the assembled boys afterwards about how that speech did NOT represent Scouting. They did NONE of those things. I come from a Scouting family (husband, both sons, brother, three nephews, and 2 brothers in law are all Eagle Scouts), and I am even a merit badge counselor at school, and I am seriously considering dropping my financial donations and support to the BSA.
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Shame on the BSA for inviting this liar, cheat, scoundrel and hater to address the boys. They deserved better than to used by this man
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Trump’s Mistake at the Boy Scout Jamboree…The Atlantic
The president addressed the quadrennial gathering like a campaign rally—talking to a group devoted to service as if it valued self-interest.
…His closest prior association with the group appears to have come in 1989, when his charitable foundation made the smallest donation it ever gave—$7—to the Boy Scouts of America, as David Fahrenthold has reported. His son, Donald Trump Jr., turned 11 that year; $7 was then the cost of registering a new Scout….
Read More:
http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/07/trumps-mistake-at-the-boy-scout-jamboree/534774/?utm_source=eb
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#FakePresident Donald Trump has no clue what integrity, hard work, kindness, and virtues are because no one ever exposed him to what those words mean. He thinks hard work is having someone that works for him hire immigrants and paying them poverty wages and then cheating them out of what they earned.
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Trump’s Mar-A-Lago applied to import 70 immigrant workers as cooks, maids, and waiters because no American workers were available.
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Has anyone actually listened to the speech? I heard parts of it on the radio and did not find his words objectionable. I do not believe anything that comes from the media these days so I probably would not trust a written text. The media has its own agenda.
Thank you for all the kind comments—-not. Generally I do not return to read the rants because I expect to be vilified. I was a Cub Scout leader and assistant scoutmaster and committee chair and had my share of the” battle ribbons” My eagle scout son took his own son out of BS of which he was a leader because he could not handle the course the organization had chosen to take. The sustained cheers that I heard on the radio indicated that the president was very popular among the boys. Yes, the tapes could have been doctored—but you have to believe sometimes. How much he financially supports the organization is immaterial…the United Way, public schools and some churches will not support the Boy Scouts in many places in this country. Baden-Powell would not recognize the Boy Scouts of today
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Pity me if you wish…I support the president I just wish he could be given a chance. He is being criticized for things that have not happened. It is no wonder why he takes to those ridiculous tweets to get his thoughts out correctly. Washington must be cleaned up. Greed and power corrupts. Fear strangles progress. Government does not have all the answers and should not be expected to save us. I believe in capitalism and the American people. WE will develop the science and innovations of this country. We can remain the city on hill and a beacon to the world, if government backs off. Have a little faith and don’t believe what you read or hear from opinion news.
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Quote: “I support the president I just wish he could be given a chance.”
What goals do you want him to achieve? Ex: expulsion of immigrants entails the breaking up of families and deporting many innocents who have lived in the US for years; repeal of Obamacare means millions with no insurance; loosening of gun control means more guns and more killings; deregulation of corporate restrictions means society being controlled by companies who want to get more for themselves; dirtying of our water and air due to dismantling of the EPA; militarism of the police departments means more killing; vilification of Muslims; increase in military spending which necessitates the cutting of societal safety networks; etc.
I’m sure you could list other achievements he wants to accomplish. Please list them. If you disagree with the list I’ve made, please make your own. I’d like to know what he can do to help this country since what he has achieved so far is an increase in hate crimes. Vulgar behavior is now more acceptable and political correctness no longer matters.
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April,
R Baden-Powell wouldn’t recognize the US President of today, either.
Re Give DJT a chance: While many of us hoped he would increase jobs with “shovel ready” projects to improve infrastructure, he’s spending early morning hours thinking about Spicer’s ratings or insulting Mika B. I must admit, his administration does seem to be increasing work for lawyers.
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I don’t pity anyone foolish and ignorant enough to support #FakePresident Donald Trump.
I see them as an enemy of the U.S. Constitution and what it represents. However, I forgive those who wake up and see their mistakes and then joins the resistance to fight this fraud, this serial liar, this con man, this traitor, this racist, this puddle of purple and orange puke.
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April,
Your leader Trump has a Republican Congress and can do anything he wants.
If he isn’t getting anything done it is HIS fault. He owns Congress.
The fact that you thought the speech he made to young teen boys was perfectly fine makes me doubt you are an American at all.
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April, you seem very unprepared to engage in conversation here. You ask if “anyone” has even seen the speech and connect that with yourself having only listened to parts of it on radio. Then you remark that what we (? you?) saw may be “doctored”? Folks who comment here tend to engage in reality and have some concept of what they are talking about. I suggest that you find some coverage of the speech that you trust to be legitimate and not part of media “agenda” and view it. Then, actually think about what you saw and heard. Go to the BSA websites and see what they posted. Read some newspaper coverage. Once you have a better grasp of what took place then reengage without making accusations that others don’t have adequate information, aren’t giving trump a chance and lack faith. If you are looking for kind words in response to your admonishment and false claims then this is not the forum. Topics here are about the real world and contributions should have some connection to actual events. It’s not clear to me why you generally don’t return to read rants or be vilified. Perhaps this is indication that you post views that tend to incite others to rant or vilify? If that happens so frequently that you now have tendencies with the occurence perhaps there is something you are saying that induces the “rants” and “vilification”. If you have a habit of going into a conversation and telling others what perspective they should convey and how they should engage with media or give someone chances there could be a connection. Addressing well informed adults as if they are clueless children whose sources are bogus may be a factor in being the recipient of rants and vilification. Maybe.
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Yes, I have listened to the speech. I have also talked to a REPUBLICAN Scoutmaster who is attending. He was appalled at much of the speech. He did say that many of the troops had prepped for this speech and stood there quietly. He also said that leaders worked to quiet the boys when they were booing and that it was a “teachable moment” that leaders are spending a lot of time following up on later.
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Our President Needs The Validation Of Boy Scouts
The Late Show with Stephen Colbert
Published on Jul 26, 2017
The President had a great opportunity to inspire a large audience of youngsters… and instead spent his entire speech discussing politics, crowd sizes and his rich friend’s boating escapades.
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Girl Scouts Obtain Restraining Order Against Trump
By Andy Borowitz, The New Yorker
25 July 17
The article below is satire. Andy Borowitz is an American comedian and New York Times-bestselling author who satirizes the news for his column, “The Borowitz Report.”
in an extraordinary rebuke of the President of the United States, the Girl Scouts of the U.S.A. have obtained a restraining order against Donald J. Trump.
The order, which the Girls Scouts were granted on Monday night, prevents Trump from coming within three hundred feet of any gathering of the Scouts’ organization.
Carol Foyler, a Girl Scouts spokesperson, said that while the G.S.U.S.A. sought the restraining order “out of an abundance of caution,” the girls themselves were “in no way, shape or form” afraid of President Trump.
“They’re prepared to deal with bobcats and bears,” she said. “They can handle a malignant narcissist.”
Trump wasted little time responding to the Girl Scouts’ action, lashing out at the organization in a blistering early-morning tweet storm.
“Failing Girl Scouts bad (or sick) guys,” Trump wrote. “Mints, cookies terrible. Sad!”
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Here’s another way to make America Great Again…more discrimination. Notice the Buffoon’s turn around from bashing Hillary to his real agenda concerning transgender people.
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Trump Says Transgender People Can’t Serve In Military
July 26, 20179:25 AM ET…NPR
“After consultation with my Generals and military experts, please be advised that the United States Government will not accept or allow … Transgender individuals to serve in any capacity in the U.S. Military. Our military must be focused on decisive and overwhelming … victory and cannot be burdened with the tremendous medical costs and disruption that transgender in the military would entail. Thank you”
Transgender people already serve in the military. It’s not immediately clear how Trump intends to implement the ban, but the Pentagon announced Wednesday it will defer enlistments by transgender applicants…
The move was an acknowledgement of the transgender people already in the military. Carter said RAND researchers estimated that “about 25,000 people out of approximately 825,000 reserve servicemembers are transgender, with the upper end of their range of estimates of around 7,000 in the active component and 4,000 in the reserves.”
Trump’s announcement will likely be seen as running counter to a tweet Trump posted in 2016, in which he thanked the LGBT community. “I will fight for you while Hillary brings in more people that will threaten your freedoms and beliefs,” he pledged.
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Today’s Acronym — LAGTAC
“Let’s All Give Trump A Chance”
— Gad Meiry • The Journey From Essen
After All … What Have You Got To Lose!?
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Give him a chance to have total power to do what he wants!
What could go wrong?
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Context
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LOL
What have we got to low? Everything – a lot more than Germany and the millions that died in World War II.
Trumpism spells an end of our, not only our Constitutional Republic in the United States, but also species and most life on Earth as we know it.
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April,
For starters, Trump wants to rid his administration of the AG he chose. Sessions properly recused himself from the Russia investigation due to his Trump campaign involvement. It would be hard to find a more right wing AG. Then, Trump is unhappy with Rothenstein for appointing Mueller as special counsel. Trump fired Comey. Manafort, Trump, Jr. and Kushner are testifying on a previously undisclosed meeting with Russians. Doe this look kosher to you?
Secondly, Trump and his AG have implemented immigration and tourist visa policies that are clearly discriminatory in intent.
Lastly, Trump appointed DeVos whose main qualification is being a billionaire wanting to dismantle the public school system brick by brick.
For your benefit, April, I will end my rant here. I will not utter a word about the real possibility of millions Americans losing their health insurance. Nor will I comment on the decisions of the Departments of Justice and Education to scale back investigations of civil rights violations. I will also say nothing about climate change, or protection of the environment. Support for Planned Parenthood is the final issue I will not discuss.
I gave Trump a chance and he blew it.
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Just how stupid is Trump? He’s so dumb he doesn’t know what he doesn’t know. And he’s not interested in learning anything.
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Trump Ranks Himself Just Behind Lincoln. Seriously…HuffPost
“Hey look ― great schools, smart guy ― it’s so easy to act presidential.”
By Rebecca Shapiro
President Donald Trump told supporters in Youngstown, Ohio, on Tuesday night that “it’s so easy” for him to act presidential ― it’s just not what’s required for him to accomplish his goals.
In fact, he said, he could act more presidential than any other former U.S. president, except for “the late, great Abraham Lincoln.”
“Sometimes, they say, ‘He doesn’t act presidential,’” Trump said of his critics. “And I say, ’Hey look ― great schools, smart guy ― it’s so easy to act presidential. But that’s not going to get it done. … With the exception of the late, great Abraham Lincoln, I can be more presidential than any president that’s ever held this office. That I can tell you. It’s real easy.”…
Read the entire article here: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/trump-lincoln-presidential_us_597803ace4b0e201d5797384
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What a fool.
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Thomas Frank made the best description of Donald Trump:”He is a big Human Middle Finger.”
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