Peter Greene read an NPR article about Jason Zimba, one of the principal writers of the Common Core math standards, and he uses it to dig deep into what Zimba understands about the rocky reception of the Common Core. Zimba wrote them, with the assistance of William McCallum and Phil Daro. They don’t really get the reason for the resistance to them.
Referring to the article, Greene writes:
We do get the inspiring story of Zimba and McCallum working long hours, slaving over the standards in the garage (just like Bill Gates starting Microsoft). She notes again that he was human, with a life and a family and a day job, spiced up with a story of some colleague telling him to stop texting about standards stuff while his second daughter was being born.
And yet, despite their good intentions and hard work, there is so much pushback against the standards. They created something really good, but the implementation is not working out as they expected.
Yes, the problem is that we didn’t build a powerful enough bomb. If we built a bigger bomb, then it would be used the correct way.
It is hard not to see these guys as hopelessly naive about How Things Work, about the implications of the work they were doing. I sympathize in part– when he claims that publishers are mucking up the works by using CCSS to market any old crap lying around the warehouse, I don’t disagree, but at the same time, dude, what did you think they were going to do with the bomb once you had finished building it?? You may have thought you were building an instrument of peace and wisdom and growth, but you should have paid better attention to the people who were signing your checks and collecting your work, because this is exactly what they wanted it for.
All three are trying to fix it. McCallum has some little start-up you’ve never heard of to make math apps. Daro is writing a complete math curriculum for Pearson, presumably because, you know, the politics and business are not his problem. Zimba’s trying to work on it, too. None of them seem to see their own hand in the mess that is now choking public education. Granted, I see all of these characters through the smudgy lens of various journalists, but I keep feeling as if Coleman knows exactly what he’s doing, but The Other Guys don’t really get it. They don’t see the battlefield because they are only focused on the bomb.
Zimba does not pick up the lesson that he now realizes that he was wrong back when he thought the standards would fix everything, so maybe he’s wrong again now that he thinks national curriculum is the answer. And he doesn’t seem to have any sense of the moral or ethical implications of trying to rewrite the education system for everybody part time in his garage– did nobody at any point say, “Gee, for a project this massive, maybe there’s a better way and other people who should be involved.” While he seems to lack the strutting ballsiness of Coleman, he still must have the hubris required to think, “Yeah, I could write the math guidelines for every student in the country.”

Let’s remember that the CCSS math standards and practices essentially grew out of the NCTM standards.the only opposition to the standards themselves (not the implementation) comes from the lets go back to the 1950s folks like Milgram.
The NCTM has supported the actual standards in Principles to Action. The position of NCTM is antithetical to the test prep curriculum and standardized testing done in the name of CCSS.
So Zimba and the gang didn’t start from scratch at all.
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Tools are not cognizant of their use.
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Zimba quickly blames teachers and math education for his own daughters’ need for Saturday morning tutoring. His little ones are probably developmentally where they should be, but CCSS-Creator Dad must force the issue because it could not possibly be the Math standards and skills required at such a young age. It must be the teachers.
What does Zimba know about pedagogie or teaching math to children? He has much to learn.
The arrogance of these folks still blows me away! Their degrees qualify them to dictate EVERYTHING IN EDUCATION? In their thinking…of course.
Apparently, Zimba got his college job via Coleman’s mother who works at the college. Sweet!?
The $M-$B spent, the abuse of our children and teachers will go down in history as the worst time for education, EVER! It must stop and we must protect our children.
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Who is Coleman?
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Nevermind, he’s the supposed architect of cc.
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Yes, these testing “experts” are arrogant. Without any significant experience or time spent with children in early childhood classroom, and perfunctory online (!) contact with actual early childhood teachers, these people presented standards for common core testing with no discernible merit. Meanwhile, countless children have completed their only time around these grades with useless, time-wasting busy work.
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Kris,
Coleman is David Coleman, architect of Common Core and now President of the College Board
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The guy that made my camping stove, light, cooler, tent, etc. . . .
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It’s exactly what the testing people say, right?
The concept was good and well-intentioned but the product developers (profit motive) and the end users (schools and teachers) screwed it up.
This is a mind-set. What they’ll try to do next is “dummy proof” the Common Core. That’s what he’s doing now. It’s a trajectory, a track, and it starts with how they approached it to begin with.
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Let me get this straight. Please correct me if I’m wrong. We have two corporate employees who are alleged to have started in their garage like Bill Gates started Microsoft—-and we know how that worked out (how many times a week do we have to do updates to patch problems with Microsoft?—-who are then hired by Pearson, a for-profit corporation that makes money from kids taking tests, and these two men are deciding what works best for about 4 million teachers and 50 million children. (and maybe many more children, because I understand Pearson wants their testing to go global).
Was Zimba and this other guy ever classroom teachers who worked in the underfunded and under supported public schools with students who live in poverty and/or have challenges to learning?
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Zimba has accomplished the impossible. He took the most ineffective and mis-taught discipline and actually managed to make it even worse. When will these math experts realize that trying to teach the “why” of math to 8 and 9 year olds is an epic fail waiting to happen. The “how” is tough enough for all but the most disciplined young learners. For most kids, math concepts don’t begin to click until sophomore or junior year. Teaching abstract math concepts to10 year old concrete thinkers should have been stopped in its tracks before we wasted untold billions of hours and dollars chasing our tails.
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Some of the stupidities and fallacies enshrined now in the Common Core and the circular arguments going around and around and around on behalf of so-called “standards” are as old as Aristotelian logic. Some are as new as Big Big and the other 1945 atomic bombs. But probably there is a basic arrogance in people who are given power (Arne Duncan, most of those leading corporate “reform”) without having earned it in the area they are now overseeing.
Serious corporations, the military, the Vatican, and many other long-term and crucial institutions know that the best way to train people for jobs at the “top” is from the “bottom.”
As Chicago pioneered each of the stupidities we are now facing across the nation, one thing that glowed in the dark about the basic fallacy was the idea, pioneered here in 1995, that the best person to lead a complex system like Chicago’s public schools was a clueless outsider with lots of arrogance and the mindless support of the corporate media. Hence, Richard M. Daley (our mayor) was given dictatorial control over the Chicago public schools in 1995 and appointed Paul G. Vallas, a political hack who had spent his life massaging budgets for state and local Democratic Party hacks, to head the school system. Etc. (to Arne Duncan). Etc. (to Ron Huberman). … etc etc. etc.
And so on with “Common Core” — and the so-called “standards” that Ken Goodman warned were the fundamental problem 20 years ago and which have remained so through the corrupt debate we had at last July’s AFT convention (where Michael Mulgrew and the New York crew defeated our work against Common Core with their own bombastic bombings about “standards”)…
Of course we need curricula (plural). During the years before I was purged (by Paul Vallas) from Chicago’s classrooms, I followed the basic curricular outlines we had in Chicago with variations (because those curricula were based on the wisdom of those of us in the classrooms). When I was asked to write curriculum for CPS (two: journalism and AP English literature), I did so with the idea that we would build in flexibility.
An example was teaching prose fiction. Despite David Coleman’s arrogant nonsense, children (and the rest of us) learn a lot from fiction. Always has been and always will be. No one with temporary dictatorial power can change that.
But how to teach long proses fiction (which usually take the form since the 18th Century as a novel or ten thousand novels…)?
One solution (the dumb one) is to teach something called THE NOVEL. When you make that the “standard,” you get mindlessly numbing generic questions like “The main character in a novel is called the (a) protagonist (b) antagonist (c) hero (d) Rahmian…. etc.
Or we could teach, with humility, any novel from To Kill a Mockinbird to Native Son to Anna Karenina (all of which I taught) and examine the children’s learning based on what they HAD READ IN THE CLASSROOM. No abtract nonsense (or as little as possible: Scout Finch is the narrator of Harper Lee’s novel; who is the protagonist? And WTF does it matter?)…
My students read those works and discussed them. As times evolved, insights into the works did, too. Always a joy. My students, most of whom were African American, wrote to Oprah Winfrey after watching her insipid version of “Native Son” demanding to know why she had turned Bigger Thomas into a simpering wimp…
That was showing a deeper understanding of that novel than any abstract “Common Core” nonsense.
Of course, Orpah never answer any of them. And at least 30 of them wrote to her after (a) Reading Richard Wright’s masterpiece and (b) watching her movie at least once…
It didn’t surprise me when she opted for charter schools and then opened one for girls in Africa under the direction of a person who “loved the children…” — a little too much…
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Oppenheimer had a “moral conflict” when he built the bomb, but it didn’t stop him from cashing his checks.
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HUBRIS! It’s revolting.
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“All three are trying to
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“The Common Lore”
The Common Lore
Says Common Core
Was built in a garage
But Common Myth
Like Common Math
Is really a mirage
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🙂
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WHAT EXACTLY were his credentials for beIng given this duty? Does he know anything other than mathematics? What does he know of the brain, child development, strategies for developing concepts and their match with the development of the brain? Is he a cognitive psychologist with a mathematics knowledge base? Is he an educational researcher familiar with Singapore’s strategies? Just why do these people think they have a deep understanding of the task?
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Math – undergrad & PhD in Physics – 2001.
No Education coursework.
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Are you guys are saying, these Certified Common Core Creators never taught in K-12?
I have a few more questions,
Is it true that most of the profs in college education departments have never taught in K-12?
Is it true that the vast majority of college profs have never learnt how to teach?
If it’s absolutely necessary to declare a winner, aren’t kids more affected by how they are taught than what they are taught?
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“The Blame Game”
Everyone’s to blame
Except the ones who are
The finger-pointing game
Will really get you far
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