Anthony Cody is confused by the contradictions of the corporate reform movement. “On the one hand, we have a seemingly utopian project with bold pronouncements about the boundless capacity of all students – even those with serious learning disabilities – to succeed on ever more difficult tests. On the other hand, we have tests that are apparently intentionally designed to fail in the realm of two thirds of our students.”
Cody considers the views of Bill Gates, who has finally admitted that student motivation plays a role in whether students learn.
Cody points out that student motivation is affected by their sense of their own future. Yet as Gates himself admits:
“Well, technology in general will make capital more attractive than labor over time. Software substitution, you know, whether it’s for drivers or waiters or nurses… It’s progressing. And that’s going to force us to rethink how these tax structures work in order to maximize employment, you know, given that, you know, capitalism in general, over time, will create more inequality and technology, over time, will reduce demand for jobs particularly at the lower end of the skill set. And so, you know, we have to adjust, and these things are coming fast. Twenty years from now, labor demand for lots of skill sets will be substantially lower, and I don’t think people have that in their mental model.”
So if there are fewer jobs, a shrinking middle class, and fewer opportunities for social mobility, students face a bleak future. How can they be motivated in an economy where their prospects are dim?
Cody writes:
“Gates is suggesting we increase taxes on consumption by the wealthy, and use those revenues to provide a sort of subsistence level payment to the poor. He opposes an increase in the minimum wage because it might raise employer costs, which they would then try to cut by laying people off.
“Gates is unconcerned about income inequality as an issue. He defines poverty as abject starvation and homelessness, and hopes employers can be convinced to keep on employees because they do not cost very much.
“The motivation of 50 million K12 students in the US is directly related to the degree to which their education leads to a brighter future. We have a big disconnect here when the future does not, in fact, offer much chance at access to college or productive employment. And as Wilkinson and Pickett established in their book The Spirit Level, the level of inequality societies tolerate has a dramatic effect on the mental state and wellbeing of its citizens…..
“As I wrote earlier in the week, there seems to be an attempt to use ever more difficult Common Core aligned tests to certify as many as two thirds of our students as unworthy of such opportunities.
“This brings to mind a dystopian future where an underclass of Common Core test rejects is allowed to subsist with the bare minimum payments required to keep starvation at bay, while a shrinking cadre of insecure workers maintain the machinery that keep the lights on and the crops harvested.
“The fundamental problem of the current economy is that we have not figured out a means by which the top 1% can be persuaded to share the prodigious profits that have flowed from technological advances…
“I cannot reconcile how this future of growing inequality and a shrinking workforce intersects with the grand utopian vision of the Common Core. So then I go back and have to question the validity of the promises made for the Common Core, since the economic projections Gates is making here seem sound….
“These economic problems will not be addressed by Common Core, by charter schools or any other educational reforms. They will not even be addressed in a significant way by what we might praise as authentic education reforms, such as smaller class sizes or more time for teacher collaboration – though these are worthwhile and humane things.
Imperfect as they have been, public schools have been an institution under mostly democratic control, funded by taxpayers, governed by elected school boards, and run by career educators. Market-driven education reform is bringing the cruelty of commerce into what was part of the public sphere, attempting to use test scores to open and close schools like shoe stores, and pay teachers on test score commissions as if we were salesmen.
“The rhetoric of the corporate reform project draws on the modern movement for civil rights, and even Bill Gates asserts that his goal is to fight inequity. But elites have rarely, if ever, designed solutions that diminish their privilege, and this is no exception. It appears that corporate education reform has devised a means to affix blame for inequity on classroom teachers, even as technological advances make it possible to transfer even more wealth into its sponsors’ bank accounts, with fewer people being paid for the work that remains necessary. The promise that the Common Core will prepare everyone for the American dream is made a lie by the intentionally engineered failure rates on Common Core aligned tests.”

“Twenty years from now, labor demand for lots of skill sets will be substantially lower, and I don’t think people have that in their mental model.”
One of the skill sets that Bill has in mind is teaching. His view: “Teaching, there’s an app for that.”
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Bob, you’re pointing out the flaw in Gates’ whole model of economic development. According to Gates,
Technology = inevitable death march of human working class into obsolescence as overseer profits soar.
He literally projects the destruction of all empowered, connected human labor. Cody quotes him directly,
“Well, technology in general will make capital more attractive than labor over time. Software substitution, you know, whether it’s for drivers or waiters or nurses…”
NURSES will be replaced by software! That’s why their supposed STEM education cuts resources for actual science instruction.
These words come out of Gates’ own mouth, around minute 46 of the chilling American Enterprise Institute interview tape, which Cody posted in its entirety.
Here’s the link to Cody’s whole post, which is well worth a visit.
http://blogs.edweek.org/teachers/living-in-dialogue/2014/07/a_question_for_bill_gates_how_.html
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chemtchr:
Loved your observation that:
“NURSES will be replaced by software!”
This morning I watched a line crew cut down a tree that had fallen on the power line overnight, reattach the power line to the transformer, and then, using a long fiberglass pole on a high-voltage line, turn the electricity back on so that I can utilize the software on my computer via a high-tech fiber optic cable connecting it to a sophisticated computer network.
Had the lineman in the bucket made one mistake . . .
Oh nuts, I forgot to check to see whether he had graduated from a reputable college. It is hard to imagine him or his crew replaced by software that could have done the same skilled and dangerous work.
Maybe a Google drone . . .
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“Gates is suggesting we increase taxes on consumption by the wealthy, and use those revenues to provide a sort of subsistence level payment to the poor.
This reminds me of a bleak sci-fi novel (by Asimov?)where the masses received a nutrient pill every day and trudged around meaninglessly. Maybe we should follow Bhutan and adopt a happiness index as the most important ,erasure of how the country is doing.
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How can anyone allow themselves to be influenced by guidance from Bill Gates? The man is a robot. No offense to those with Aspergers Syndrome, but his deficit of human emotions does not allow him to connect with others. He cannot empathize with human suffering, nor can he experience guilt. Bill Gates is a Charlatan leading many passive people in this country to a doomsday.
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Guilt and empathy are two different things. One does not necessarily involve the other.
I wouldn’t be surprised if Bill Gates were somewhat “Aspergery” but probably not sufficently to be diagnosed with Asperger’s Syndrome.
People like him are not so good at understanding other people but they may be very good at tasks such as computer programming requiring a great attention to detail.
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Another brilliant Cody piece! The problem is … who beyond educators is listening? I want each and every person throughout America to reflect on so many worthy writings in this blog and Cody’s piece is a definite read. BUT WHO IS LISTENING? I have no doubt that blog readers like myself try to spread the word. But how can this be done on a mass scale if our government officials are either part of the 1 percent or are being placated by money and power that the one percent is willing to share to ensure that the policy and profits “share the same bed”???
Cody’s words ring so true. I always get drawn into reading those “yahoo” news blurbs regarding “best jobs” or “job prospects” as it addresses what “ed reform” types are PR ing! It seems like EVERYONE is “supposed” to get a degree in something related to computers or management in order to make his/her college degree “worthwhile”! A Gate’s world of the future will be one without any arts (if arts are not connected to computers)… It will be a world devoid of beauty that truly keeps the human spirit healthy. And the one percent will have nobody to teach their children how to play the flute, to dance or sculpt. These endeavors cannot be sought or honed via computerized data oriented “teaching”.
These words of Cody are haunting, “Market-driven education reform is bringing the cruelty of commerce into what was part of the public sphere, attempting to use test scores to open and close schools like shoe stores, and pay teachers on test score commissions as if we were salesmen…” I would add that salesmen get fired if they do not earn enough commission – henceforth teachers are like marionette puppets with Gates and gang controlling our movements and deciding when to cut our strings.
Thank you Anthony Cody for such wise reflections… now the word must be spread. We need to clone Bill Moyer and Jon Stewart perhaps. There are very few in this “brave new Gates world” who are allowed to speak out to the public via media.
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artseagal: No one is listening….that is the problem!
Narcissist do not listen to others. They perceive themselves as superior and always right. Anything that does not fit their faux front is avoided and denied.
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I picked up the same lines. Brilliant writing.
Market-driven education reform is bringing the cruelty of commerce into what was part of the public sphere, attempting to use test scores to open and close schools like shoe stores, and pay teachers on test score commissions as if we were salesmen.
Just finished downloading an IES report that is STILL promoting VAM, the Danielson protocol (no validity studies since 2011), and the Tripod student survey to evaluate teachers developed by an economist who thinks homework is great–all recycling and giving undeserved credibility to the flawed MET project that Gates spent $64 million on, using economists as if they are educational experts.
This report is all about Pittsburgh. The limitations are worth reading.
Chaplin, D., Gill, B,. Thompkins, A., & Miller, H. (2014). Professional practice, student surveys, and value- added: Multiple measures of teacher effectiveness in the Pittsburgh Public School (REL2014-024) Washington, DCU.S. Department of Education, Institute of Education Sciences, National Center for Education Evaluation and Regional Assistance, Regional Educational Laboratory Mid-Atlantic. Retrieved from http://ies.ed.gov/ncee/edlabs/regions/midatlantic/pdf/REL_2014024.pdf
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However well-intended, though naive and destructive, Bill Gates’ “initiatives” may have been, they have opened the door to the corporate reformers exploiting Naomi Klein’s Shock Doctrine
http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine
and Wendy Lecker’s “disruptive innovation”.
http://www.naomiklein.org/shock-doctrine
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Sorry – that second link to Wender Lecker’s ‘Disruptive innovation’ policies hurting state’s children should have been”
http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Lecker-Disruptive-innovation-policies-hurting-5585477.php
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GE2L2R… “trending” at the Harvard Coop in Cambridge (at the front of the store where all the Harvard prof/authors are showcased,,, is a whole selection of Christensen books lest we not know what the new “hot” branded term – disruptive innovation – is!
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Thank you, GEL2R. That kind of intelligent writing and analysis we need to support. It offers some answers to the question Artsegal posed in his previous comment. How do we raise the awareness of our general public about these issues?
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Yes, chilling is definitely the word…I don’t know what is more sobering, realizing that technology really is reducing the need for human jobs or that people are oblivious to what is going on around them….
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What if technology isn’t really reducing the NEED for human jobs? There are so many outrages of human deprivation on every level we could end.
How can we organize so that human labor itself to will regain its dignity and connectedness?
Gates decrees that the profit of the few should set the value for all human activities, and then has the hubris to call that charity.
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Here again one ought to consider the fact that kids in the private schools to which Reformers send their own children are filled with hope about their own futures, because they are the children of presidents, secretaries of state, governors, venture capital firms, investment bankers. They travel to the Faroe islands during vacations; they take music lessons from the first violinists and clarinet players of the great orchestras in the country. They prepare for SATs with the help of $500/hour tutors. Their uncles and aunts are trustees of Ivy League universities. These kids know full well the advantages they have in getting into the best colleges and getting the best jobs.
Common Core testing is the means to identify the “worthy poor,” who will be allowed in to the “magic circle” of the national elite. Take a look at the breakdown of public v private school in freshman classes at Ivy League schools. Nearly half the freshmen at Harvard went to private schools–while these schools educate perhaps 5-10% of all children in the nation. (And of all these private schools, a handful send as many as half of their graduates to Ivy League colleges.) So simply going to an elite private school means you’re in a feeder school to the Ivies. Then, among public schools, there are the very successful public schools, such as Scarsdale and Great Neck, that send most of their graduates to good colleges, if not most to the Ivies. But these public schools are but a fraction of all public schools in the nation.
Between 1950 and 1970, many, pehaps most, graduates of both public and private schools had confidence that they would find good jobs. Few cared about the advantages that private school students had, because public school graduates also had a good shot of landing meaningful work. But now that the economy is so unforgiving to recent graduates, the fact that private school students “come first” becomes a serious political problem in a nation in which everyone has the right to vote.
Crony capitalism begins in the crib.
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Steve Cohen: what you wrote.
As one typical example from a host of others, this snippet from Harpeth Hall, which Michelle Rhee’s children attend.
[start quote]
For several years, Harpeth Hall has offered an international exchange program for our students with schools in China, France, Germany, New Zealand, and South Africa. Through these exchanges, our students are immersed in the language and culture of the countries. They live with host families and attend our partner schools. Likewise, Harpeth Hall hosts young women from these countries. This cross-culture interaction provides our students with awareness, understanding, and appreciation of others and how they live.
[end quote]
Link: http://www.harpethhall.org/podium/default.aspx?t=151835
And just one other, from Lakeside School, which Bill Gates attended and where his children now go.
[start quote]
The Lakeside Educational Enrichment Program (LEEP) is designed to stimulate the intellectual curiosity of the participants, show them how enjoyable learning can be, and help them understand they can achieve more than they ever thought possible. The program’s aim is to boost students to higher achievement during the summer and later in their school life. The goal is to have them bond together as a community of learners who share some common values.
Beginning in 2014, the LEEP experience starts with a six-week summer program and continues into the school year with monthly meetings (ten Saturday sessions). LEEP is funded through private and corporate donations; thus, there is no cost to participants.
The LEEP summer program has five components:
1) Academics (math, English, and geography)
2) Athletics (field sports and rowing)
3) Stand and Deliver (a three-to-five minute presentation before the entire LEEP assemblage)
4) Outdoor Experience (3-day field/service learning experience with local nonprofit organizations)
5) Graduation (an official and heartwarming graduation ceremony attended by families and supporters)
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Link: http://www.lakesideschool.org/LEEP
And just how do the educational opportunities the self-styled “education reformers” ensure for THEIR OWN CHILDREN compare to those they mandate for OTHER PEOPLE’S CHILDREN?
“It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question.” [Ionesco]
Thank you for your comments.
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And reflecting on the title of the Cody article as to how we can motivate students with bleak futures… it should read…”How can we motivate students who cannot even focus on how bleak their futures will be because they are too worn down by the daily pitfalls of chronic poverty to even focus on anything beyond one day at a time… A child who just dodged bullets to get to his/her school does not see significance in sitting down to do some algebra problems!
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I don’t know what’s so confusing. Capitalizers are doing what capitalizers have always done. Max Weber explained it all a long time ago. If you can capitalize Christmas you can capitalize anything. Bleak futures are the very engines of capitalism. You can’t keep the wheels of continuous production and destructive consumption going if the people ever know a moment of contentment — if there is ever a time when the people know peace.
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Let’s look at it from the production side, instead of consumption. Will Johnson describes the application of “Lean Production” labor management to the field of education.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2012/09/lean-production-whats-really-hurting-public-education/
Here’s my proposal. We will all read and discuss these writings which the Chicago CORE caucus assembled. Then we’ll talk about how we have the agency to build a labor movement and take back the very definition of human labor, in the organization of our production process.
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“Gates is unconcerned about income inequality as an issue. He defines poverty as abject starvation and homelessness, and hopes employers can be convinced to keep on employees because they do not cost very much.”
That observation should give us all pause whenever Gates and his fellow technology moguls complain about our “STEM crisis” and warn us, sans evidence, that we are not producing enough STEM graduates and need to flood the market with more majors and with more H1B visas.
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Bill Gates is a robot. No offense to those with Aspergers Syndrome, but his deficit of human emotions does not allow him to connect with others. He cannot empathize with human suffering, nor can he experience guilt. Bill Gates is a Charlatan leading many passive people in this country to a potential doomsday.
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Thanks Madison in Dallas for that brilliant observation that deserved repeating!
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The masses really need to watch this:
“Park Avenue: money, power and the American dream – Why Poverty?”
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It’s shocking to see Gates admit this. I think that some of our students sense this, and I know that I sometimes feel that I’m lying to them as I try to convince them that education will lead to a better life. I’ve been listening to Richard Wolff”s ideas on democracy in the workplace, and I’m intrigued. He suggests that if workers owned and ran companies, they would make very different decisions. They would be less likely to close down a factory to move it elsewhere since they would be destroying their own jobs. They might also think twice about replacing people with robots, The problem is, how do we get there?
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Yes, I feel this too. My kids have parents, or uncles out of work and they sense the truth. I am trying to get them to play the “game” and many of the brighter ones know the game is rigged against them. Unless they come from wealth, have lots of connections, there is very little hope that they will emulate their parents’ lifestyles. I think this goes on both consciously and subconsciously. I feel like a a fraud telling all students to “go to college!” Education will just allow them to understand what is happening to them, but absolutely powerless to do anything about it. That is recipe for disaster as well. Many of the intellectuals I know suffer from various degrees of depression. Seeing the “truth” doesn’t make one happier.
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Replacing people with robots is already happening. The CCSS environment of authoritarian behaviorism is changing children into robots…..! Breaking the will of a child was used by the Germans for generations leading up to WWII.
Have we learned anything from History yet?
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“The rhetoric of the corporate reform project draws on the modern movement for civil rights, and even Bill Gates asserts that his goal is to fight inequity. But elites have rarely, if ever, designed solutions that diminish their privilege, and this is no exception. It appears that corporate education reform has devised a means to affix blame for inequity on classroom teachers, even as technological advances make it possible to transfer even more wealth into its sponsors’ bank accounts, with fewer people being paid for the work that remains necessary. The promise that the Common Core will prepare everyone for the American dream is made a lie by the intentionally engineered failure rates on Common Core aligned tests.”
This is nothing new. You should read how Dewey and the other big Progressive reformers defined “Democracy”. He and Gates would be like two peas in a pod in this regard.
I’ve come to conclude that Common Core is not a bug, but a feature, of the Progressive education philosophy. Once you create a technocracy, and the Progressives were certainly technocrats and designed a technocratic education “system”, then the questions move to efficiency of technique and not quality of result. As writers like Jacques Ellul have pointed out, in technolocial societies the means and ends converge.
So, we need to return to a liberal education and a view of education that supports our democracy not our economy. In order to save education, we may well have to abandon much of the original reforms. But let’s do that for sound reasons.
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This is an interesting post. No, the elite actually want “less” kids to go to college. That is why they are pulling their money from colleges and making school as expensive as possible. In America, you have to see what they do and not what they “say.” They don’t want 80% of the kids going to college and then getting depressed, angry, etc. They would rather have an elite go to college (more likely to get good jobs) and the rest of society ready for low wages, and no benefits, etc. Now we see the real reason behind all of this. My prediction is that many colleges will go out of business as tuition rises through the stratosphere, especially those with small endowments. There are simply very “few” good jobs left, and the elites know what is coming down the road. We have 310 million people in America, billions of “excess” people around the world. The competition for those few good jobs in America, and Europe will be fierce. In simple terms: “everyone in America wants to be a “chief” and no one wants to be an “indian.” This mentality is way out of sync with reality. Also why make people who are going to do low paid service jobs (or worse) educated, critical thinkers. This will just make them angry at the system. This does not benefit the elite at all, quite the contrary. They will now make sure that most Americans “know their place” and ready to accept economic slavery whether they like it or not. There will be no more pretending that 70% of the population is smart at all. Parents will have to accept that their kids are not smart, as Arne Duncan alluded to earlier. Then if little Johnny ends up working at Target, so be it. It’s all coming together now.
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80% of the US population getting college degrees would mean people with IQ’s as low as 87 getting such degrees. That is utter fantasy. At that IQ level reading a bus schedule is a great challenge.
I agree that the higher education bubble will probably burst in the near future.
Yet we continue to allow our country to be inundated with millions of low-skilled workers from Mexico.
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Jim, you need not worry, those low I.Q. folks will know enough to form and join gangs that will happily pillage your neighborhood since they will understand they have no other real options.
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So, what is YOUR IQ, Jim?
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They won’t actually be that well-organized but you will get something like the difference between Iceland, where people may not bother to lock their doors and Brazil where people do not stop and wait at red lights because it is too dangerous.
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“Brazil where people do not stop and wait at red lights because it is too dangerous.”
Really, Jimbo. Got any proof whatsoever of that statement. Sources, don’t tell me to “google it”.
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Here’s the evidence behind Gates’s observation. We are experiencing what Erik Brynjolfsson of the MIT Sloan School of Management calls the “great decoupling” of productivity and employment:
This is what a sociopolitical catastrophe looks like.
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Yeah – remember Matt’s mom is a teacher!
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It’s very interesting that this has become a common theme in our popular culture, isn’t it?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Em8Sh-tmSw
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http://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/gadgets-and-tech/computer-becomes-first-to-pass-turing-test-in-artificial-intelligence-milestone-but-academics-warn-of-dangerous-future-9508370.html
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Not sure about this one. I think if anything, it shows how the Turing test isn’t worth much in terms of demonstrating AI. Plus it seems like this guy was gaming the test a bit by suggesting to the judges that knowledge gaps and other quirks might be explained by the youth (and perhaps culture?) of the putative person on the other end of the chat.
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Agreed on both counts. I wrote an essay twenty-something years ago about why the Turing test was a lousy test of artificial intelligence.
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You’re always twenty-something steps ahead of me, Bob.
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Hardly, FLERP. I treasure your comments on this blog, which are always thoughtful and frequently very funny to boot.
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Once upon a time, forward-looking people believed that increasing productivity without needing additional labor, or even reducing the need for labor, was the essence of progress. More stuff with less work meant more free time for human beings to “develop” their powers. The bitterness of this moment is that we are close to solving the technical problem of scarcity but far from achieving the political conditions of genuine democracy. Mastery over material want is being used to smother human freedom.
Contrary to what our technocratic rulers claim, we don’t need more STEM. We need more HUMAN.
The political in political economy will come roaring back as young people realize that much of elite culture and leadership is basically fraud.
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Basic hierarchy of needs stuff.
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The worst part of all this is that, as indicated in the Park Avenue video, a campaign has been made by the rich to convince the middle class that poverty should be blamed on the poor. This is why we have so many workers who are struggling but who still believe in the American dream and don’t point fingers at the wealthy:
The rich have “managed to take the resentment of the middle class, which has actually been quite economically squeezed over the last couple decades, and turn their resentment against the people beneath them…”
“It’s really like a magician trying to point people in a different direction so that they won’t notice what’s really going on.”
“If you can take the resentment of the middle class and point it downward, rather than having it point upward to the people on the top of the 1% who are really walking away richer than ever, then you can succeed politically, and I think they’ve been very good at that.”
“You know, the poor are not very well represented in our system of government…”
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Excellent article. However, forget college and career ready and any aspirations for employment, What about all those who will not receive a high school diploma given the arbitrary cut-off grades to qualify for a diploma, e.g. NY and LA. Too many in the workforce, set a higher cut-off. What are the choices for someone without a high school diploma? Accelerated polarization?
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No, bigger, larger, more profitable private prisons.
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Especially, as in the state of Arizona, with its guarantee of at least 90% occupancy. Just scoop up some unemployed teenagers, no problem. They aren’t doing anything anyway, not going anywhere.
I consider prison reform as one more dimension in winning the fight for public education. When I was a superintendent we honored the responsibility to do everything we could for every child, every teenager in this urban district and that included working with law enforcement, Fortunately I also had some very good principals who shared that commitment and the teachers responded in kind.
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En Arizona, especialmente si hablan español o son negros, eh.
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It would help to change that bleak future if we had laws limiting automation in industry so there were human jobs available on the assembly lines that paid a livable wage.
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great piece. here’s my favorite quote:
“These economic problems will not be addressed by Common Core, by charter schools or any other educational reforms. They will not even be addressed in a significant way by what we might praise as authentic education reforms…”
Cody reminds us here that it’s time we faced up to the reality that schools won’t solve our most pressing social problems, unless we restructure them to directly address the economic, social, and political problems that undermine the work we try to do in our public schools. in other words, the problem is not that we need better teachers, better curriculum, better data, or better assessment. the problem is we need just, equitable, and sustainable communities, if we want our schools to do better. that is, we need schools that address community concerns, and where community concerns help shape curriculum. this would mean making our schools sites for our collective struggles:
http://jolle.coe.uga.edu/393-2/
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Well, before you can implement smash-and-grab, which is the real dynamic behind so-called education reform, you need bait-and-switch: that’s what all the faux “civil-rights-issue-of-our-time” rhetoric is there for.
As for Gates proposing “subsistence-level payments for the poor,” that will play out, at best, with the Gates/Monsanto partnership producing GMO-based food-like substances for the global riff-raff, while the 1/10 of 1% eats organic kale grown in their robocop-guarded gated communities and space pods.
That’s the optimistic outlook; the more realistic outcome of Gates’ malanthropic vision will be “Soylent Green Is People!!!”
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What!? – No Lobster Newberg?
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This is a pretty serious problem that I don’t think anyone has come up with good solutions for. A few centuries ago 90% of the population was involved in fairly low-skill agricultural production, now only a relatively small percentage is so involved. Even long ago when I was a kid there were still jobs operating elevators or pumping gas. In the not so distant future we may get our Big Macs at stores with a couple human workers and lots of robots.
Perhaps if we can’t find a long-term solution to our energy problems we may return in the future to an economy with a large demand for low-skilled labor.
Even if it’s possible for one percent of the population to support the other 99 percent I can’t imagine that such a society will be stable.
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The big internet retailers’ distribution centers have been a great boon the economies of a number of rural areas of the United States. Now, those retailers are investing heavily in automated stock-picking systems.
When I was a kid, on every street corner in every major city, there was a cobbler. There was a person who made his (sometimes, but rarely, her) living mending shoes.
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There were also people selling newspapers.
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Average age of a cobbler today seems to be about 80.
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Of course I’m basing that on the two cobblers I’ve been to in the last 15 years and the one cobbler I’ve been considering going to for the last two years. And of course with customers like me, why would anyone go into the cobbling business.
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Perhaps in the long run genetic engineering may contribute something to helping with these problems but not I think in the near future.
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In the not very long run, genetic engineering is going to change everything, utterly. It’s consequences are entirely unpredictable because we haven’t the intelligence to do the predicting. It seems highly likely that humans will speciate in various ways.
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Based on what I’ve read and what I’ve considered, one of the uncertainties is the degree to which access to genetic enhancement (which isn’t the same thing as genetic engineering, but the same principle might apply to that as well) becomes a new, perhaps much, much more substantial, means of social divisions. I think the children’s movie “Robots” basically covered this.
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And all this is happening at a time when an American presidential candidate and his running mate can get enormous applause running around the country giving speeches on wasteful government research on fruit flies–completely oblivious of their role in genetic research to date.
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It’s already been attempted, Jim. It’s called Eugenics. It wasn’t at the molecular level, but people were encouraged or forbidden to have children, depending on so-called characteristics. People were forcibly sterilized into the 1970s. It’s NOT something to look forward to. I can’t believe I’m even having this conversation.
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Controlling or more modestly attempting to influence breeding is not the same as direct manipulation of the genome. The first is how we got all domesticated animals and plants. Traditional eugenics (such as encouraging greater reproduction of the higher IQ segment of the population) can have small but significant effects over a few centuries.
As Bob says genetic engineering is a whole new ball game.
Something in between is selective abortion based on genetic screening. This is already here. One effect of this may be to result in a very unbalanced sex ratio.
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Threatened out West – Reality has some very uncomfortable aspects. They don’t go way away because we refuse to talk about them. In traditional Comanche culture death was a taboo subject. The dead were never referred to and the names of surviving children were changed in the hope that it would help them forget their deceased parents. Nevertheless Comanches still died.
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While I don’t think that vocational education is a panacea I think it would probably help to make more efforts in this direction, focusing on jobs that cannot be easily outsourced such as plumbers or auto mechanics.
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Agreed!
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Has it occurred to anybody else that we can STOP “outsourcing” and win a decent right livelihood for our own children, and also those in the colonized working class of the non-emerging economies?
Why do we even allow the oligarchy to export our jobs to countries without worker or environmental protections?
The import law we need would require the outsourcer to document that his production process met US legal standards for worker rights and protections, environmental safety, and regulatory oversight for goods manufactured elsewhere under contract to a multinational corporation.
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Female infanticide in some primitive hunter-gatherer societies leads to a shortage of women and violent conflict between males over sexual access to the remaining women. A curious thing about this is that males in such societies often complain about the scarcity of women but seem surprised when anthropologists point out to them the connection between this scarcity and their practive of female infanticide.
Although this practive of female infanticide seems dysfunctional remember that in harsher hunter environments such as found in the north the supply of food particularly in winter is almost soely dependent of the number of able-bodied males. So a group with proportionately more males has a better chance of survival. So there may be evolutionary reasons for the tendency to female infanticide.
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So racist Jim is also a misogynist and pro-infanticide. No surprise. There are probably many more groups this hater seeks to justify eliminating as well.
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“Twenty years from now, labor demand for lots of skill sets will be substantially lower. . .
That right there shows Billy the Gates doesn’t understand the need for those “lower” skills, plumbers, electricians, heavy equipment operators, machinists, laborers, mechanics, etc. . . and is blinded by his own view of his “techno” world.
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Yes, as Duane says, Gates is “blinded by his own view of his “techno” world.” We have to make sure we aren’t. I’m cross-posting the comment I put on Cody’s blog.
Yesterday, I went to the MFA and as I was standing there, in front of one of the 4 remaining original copies of the Magna Carta (1215) … it occurred to me … It struck me that WE can write, duh.
We don’t have to accept the doom Bill Gates and his tiny class have wished upon all humanity. His vision of a grim death march toward hopeless obsolescence doesn’t come from OUR technology, it’s caused by HIS obscene profits and his resulting delusions of dictatorial powers.
Humanity can unite against the global oligarchy, and enforce our birthright to the dignity and wholeness of human labor. Yes, we will have teachers and nurses. Our minds and judgement and mission will be present in our workplaces. And also, the minds and bodies of our production workers won’t be used up and broken by “lean production” managers, as though their individual human worth and dignity wasn’t even part of the pay plan.
And also, our air, our water, and our soil will be protected as part of the production process.
And the integrity of our political process and judiciary will be guarded against them, and will belong to the people.
The 800-year-old piece of parchment is closely written in Latin. It isn’t introduced by a flourish of rhetoric, or carefully edited, like the 238-year-old document in a nearby case. It’s a laundry list of ancient rights, raised against a despot. The Barons didn’t come to Runnymede for a place at his table, and didn’t negotiate a single demand. The Great Charter is specific, and therein lies it’s power, authenticity, and universality.
http://news.rapgenius.com/Barons-of-king-john-of-england-the-magna-carta-annotated#note-1997758
All fish-weirs shall be removed from the Thames, the Medway, and throughout the whole of England, except on the sea coast.
Their people were starving, even their food sources diverted to the despot’s treasury, and taxed to desperation for a war of aggression in the Middle East. Just sayin’…
Occupy the planet. Start everywhere, and teachers can start by fighting the imposition of “lean production” management and stack ranking on our schools.
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This is the link to the Will johnson’s “Lean Production” article I’ve been posting everywhere.
https://www.jacobinmag.com/2012/09/lean-production-whats-really-hurting-public-education/
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