Margaret Sullivan was the ombudsman (public editor) for the New York Times. She writes a blog called American Crisis. There are so many amazing blogs these days that it’s hard to keep track. This one appeared in my email today, and it speaks to a debate among readers on this blog about whether the media, and most especially The New York Times, normalizes Trump’s behavior and ideas in an effort to be “fair.” I’m subscribing.
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I once asked Jill Abramson, the former top editor of the New York Times, to name the best reporters she had ever encountered.
I recall she mentioned her friend and co-author Jane Mayer — definitely on my list, too — and a few others. Mayer’s book, “Dark Money,” about the Koch Brothers, is a classic of investigative reporting.
Another one was James Risen, the renowned investigative reporter formerly of the New York Times, and later at the Intercept. I agreed again, particularly because of an investigation that Risen did during the George W. Bush administration about the government surveillance of American citizens through warrantless wiretapping. (There’s quite a backstory there, but suffice it to say that Times editors held back the investigation for many months after the administration claimed that publishing would threaten national security; Risen eventually forced the hand of his editors, resulting in the publication of the blockbuster co-authored with Eric Lichtblau — and it won a Pulitzer Prize.)
I heard from Risen a few days ago, as I do from time to time; I got to know him while I was the Times public editor or ombudswoman. He wrote to express his outrage at his former employer for a recent story. I pay particular attention to him as a former Timesman himself and a journalist of integrity.
“At first, I thought this was a parody,” Risen told me. Unfortunately, it wasn’t. Even more unfortunately, the lack of judgment it displays is all too common in the Times and throughout Big Journalism as mainstream media covers Donald Trump’s campaign for president.
“Harris and Trump Have Housing Ideas. Economists Have Doubts,” is the headline of the story he was angered by. If you pay attention to epidemic of “false equivalence” in the media — equalizing the unequal for the sake of looking fair — you might have had a sense of what was coming.
The story takes seriously Trump’s plan for the mass deportation of immigrants as part of his supposed “affordable housing” agenda.
Here’s some both-sidesing for you, as the paper of record describes Harris’s tax cuts to spur construction and grants to first-time home buyers, and Trump’s deportation scheme.
“Their two visions of how to solve America’s affordable housing shortage have little in common …But they do share one quality: Both have drawn skepticism from outside economists.” The story notes that experts are particularly skeptical about Trump’s idea, but the story’s framing and its headline certainly equate the two.
There’s only one reason I disagree with Risen’s reaction. He wrote: “This story is unbelievable.”
I wish.
Stories like this run rampant in the Times, and far beyond. It matters more in the Times because — even in this supposed “post-media era” — the country’s biggest newspaper still sets the tone and wields tremendous influence. And, of course, the Times has tremendous resources, a huge newsroom and the ability to hire the best in the business. Undeniably, it does a lot of excellent work.
But its politics coverage often seems broken and clueless — or even blatantly pro-Trump. There’s so much of this false-balance nonsense in the Times that there’s a Twitter (X) account devoted to mocking it, called New York Times Pitchbot.
Sometimes, sadly, it’s hard to tell the difference between the satire and the reality. Hence, Risen’s parody line.
At the same time, when Trump does something even more outrageous than usual, the mainstream press can’t seem to give it the right emphasis. Last week, NPR broke the news that Trump and his campaign staff apparently violated federal law — and every norm of decency — by trying to film a campaign video at Arlington National Cemetery and getting into a scuffle with a dutiful cemetery employee.
Of course, the story got picked up elsewhere and got significant attention. But did it get the huge and sustained treatment that — let’s just say — Hillary Clinton’s email practices did in 2016? Definitely not, as a former Marine, Ben Kesling, wrote in Columbia Journalism Review:
“Lumped together, the reporting this week left readers and listeners, especially with no knowledge of the military, at a loss to understand what actually happened — and crucially, why it mattered so much. The Trump campaign had successfully muddied the waters by alleging that the photographer had been invited to the event by family members of soldiers buried there.”
It came off, he wrote, “like a bureaucratic mix-up or some tedious violation of protocol,” not a deeply disrespectful moral failure, which it surely was. “The sacred had been profaned.”
The political cartoonist Darrin Bell, however, certainly got the point across in a time-lapse video cartoon. Check it out here. (Open the link to see this).
Why does this keep happening, not just in the Times but far beyond?
Nearly 10 years after Trump declared his candidacy in 2015, the media has not figured out how to cover him. (My last major piece in the Washington Post laid out how coverage should change if Trump decided to run again, and I’ve also written recommendations here from the Media and Democracy Project.)
And what’s more — what’s worse — they don’t seem to want to change. Editors and reporters, with a few exceptions, really don’t see the problem as they normalize Trump. Nor do they appear to listen to valid criticism. They may not even be aware of it, or may think, “well, when both sides are mad at us, we must be doing it right.” Maybe they simply fear being labeled liberal.
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All of this matters immensely as the extraordinarily important campaign for president heads into its last couple of months. I’ll be continuing to monitor coverage here, and trying to find ways to improve it.

The cottage industry of Democrats crying about the NY Times continues to expand.
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FYI to others — notice how this comment is so similar to the way that the NYT all too frequently reports true stories that reflect poorly on Trump.
Rather than to address the criticism, this comment instead simply attempts to discredit both Margaret Sullivan and James Risen as part of the “cottage industry of Democrats”. The careful, evidence-based points that media critics make are mischaracterized as “CRYING”. Thus implying that would be no need to even address the points made by Sullivan. Words like “Crying” and “Democrats” are shortcuts typical of Trump and his supporters to discredit an argument that one can’t discredit using facts and argument. For the record, I do not think this person is a Trump supporter. Just like I don’t think the NYT reporters rabidly support Trump. However, their thinking has been infected by the normalization of the Republican style of discourse, in which making character attacks on anyone who criticizes Trump (or the NYT) from the left is required so that readers may doubt their credibility, but a Republican’s long history of lying is almost always excluded when a Republican offers up their evidence-free smears that are treated as simply a different, plausible “other side”.
This article doesn’t even include the NYT’s story on Trump speaking total nonsense at the “Moms for Liberty” gathering in which negative information about “Moms for Liberty” that would discredit it in the mind of readers is excluded from the NYT narrative of Trump speaking to a grassroots organization made up of over 100,000 conservative suburban non-political moms who organized because they really care about these issues that only the Republicans are responding to.
Shockingly, Trump said this outrageous nonsense about gender-affirming surgery at that Moms for Liberty appearance: “Think of it, your kid goes to school and comes home a few days later with an operation…”
But that comment was missing from the NYT article. However, it did talk about how Trump had the roomful of women “charmed” when he talked about his mother.
Discrediting every criticism of Trump’s inappropriate, unethical and dishonest actions by characterizing all criticism as a partisan Democrat attack (with the implication that everyone who isn’t a partisan has no problem with these “normal” actions by Trump) is now considered to be excellent “unbiased” reporting by NYT reporters who pat themselves on the back for being so fair and balanced.
Discrediting Margaret Sullivan and James Risen as part of the “cottage industry of Democrats crying about the NYT” is simply right wing propaganda, regardless of whether the person offering it does so knowingly or unknowingly.
Unfortunately, this kind of insulting comment substitutes for rational argument all too often in our discourse. Instead of being called out, it is enabled.
Some people seem to miss out on why this is a problem. Because why shouldn’t we simply attack and insult those who disagree to belittle them and discredit them? What’s the big deal? It works for Trump. It works for the Republicans.
This is a distraction. Now we are supposed to “debate” the question of whether Margaret Sullivan is crying or not crying here. We are supposed to “debate” whether or not Sullivan is or is not a Democrat and a partisan.
We are NOT supposed to discuss the points being made and give them any credibility at all, or make those facts part of the discourse. That would be “too biased” against Trump. It’s more fair and balanced to discuss whether Margaret Sullivan is “crying” or a “Democrat” as that is certainly a “both sides have valid points” discussion to have, right?
I hope most readers here realize that this is exactly how the NYT often treats Diane Ravitch. She is dismissed as a partisan teachers’ union shill, and thus her careful fact-based analyses have little value – either ignored or presented as partisan. Unlike the opinions of the ed reform folks which are always presented as having the most credibility because they care about kids.
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I’ve responded many times to the nonstop complaining among many Democrats that the New York Times is failing to cover the Harris campaign fairly and that it is “normalizing” Trump’s bad behavior. I’ll do so again when the mood strikes me, this topic is really well into “broken record” territory. The same thing over and over and over again.
Sure, the Times sometimes gets things wrong.
Sure, the Times writes articles that some of its readers wish it would have written differently. This is a truism and will always be the case.
In the case of this article, I read it completely differently than Sullivan did. To me, the juxtaposition of Harris’s housing policy proposal with Trump’s proposal to lower housing prices through mass deportations was hilarious. It doesn’t have the effect of “normalizing” mass deportation as a legitimate housing policy. It has the effect of throwing into relief the ridiculousness of considering mass deportation as a housing policy, as Trump asks voters to do.
The Times could have done this article differently. It could have just focused on Harris’s proposals. But then people would have complained that it was unfairly picking on Harris alone.
Or it could have ignored Trump’s suggestion that mass deportation is a viable housing proposal and instead focused on his other vague proposals, like lowering inflation (how?), opening up federal lands (where? how much?) for new home construction, tax incentives, and reducing regulations that raise housing costs. But then people probably would have complained that the Times was treating Harris and Trump the same (which would have been . . . bad?).
In my view, highlighting mass deportation as one of Trump’s main housing proposals is a fairly slick way of mocking him. I could imagine Trump’s people reading that article and being very angry that it was emphasizing mass deportations over any of the other things Trump has (kind of) proposed.
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All of those support one narrative which is also embraced by the NYT: It is correct to treat both candidates the same in terms of their policies instead of looking at their character. Which is ironic since the NYT will always look at things other than policies when it wants to undermine Dems — Biden’s “cognitive unfitness” (which is NOT a story with Trump) and the 2016 Dem’s “dishonesty and corruption” (which was NOT a story with Trump).
One candidate is entirely unfit for office because of HIS OWN ACTIONS AND WORDS. If that is treated as an “opinion” – in contrast to how Biden’s unfitness was treated as “fact” – then we have a problem.
And then the reporters naval gaze and are mystified as to how so many Americans think Trump is normal.
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Sorry if it’s disrespectful but to me this just sounds like more crying about how the NYtimes isn’t fair. The Times constantly reports critically on the GOP and Trump, even if you’re blind to it.
What’s your source as to the percentage of Americans who think Trump is “normal”?
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“The Times constantly reports critically on the GOP and Trump”
No, it doesn’t. It reports the worst things that the GOP and Trump does in a way that normalizes it and then quotes some “partisan Democrat” to offer a partisan opinion.
In fact, their normalization of the Supreme Court immunity decision in their NEWS stories written by the usual suspects was astonishing. It presented the “both sides” argument for why this immunity decision might or might not be valid.
You almost always offer up a slew of OPINION pieces to counter the normalization of Republican talking points that their political NEWS coverage has turned into.
And you often do what you just did here and and insult and belittle any critic of the NYT and imply they are a member of some partisan cabal. It really seems as if it is YOU that has some personal stake in this. Why not just ignore Diane’s posts (or anyone’s posts) critical of the NYT instead of posting ONLY to insult and discredit the messenger?
As I remind people, my first interaction with you came when you constantly belittled me personally whenever I wrote anything critical of Eva Moskowitz and Success Academy. You professed to have no opinion, but seemed oddly determined to belittle and insult me after I posted something negative. Often that negative was about how the NYT was misreporting on the charter network and presenting them as miracle workers achieving the results with the students who public schools had supposedly “failed.”
You obviously feel very strongly that the NYT and Eva Moskowitz should not be criticized. But instead of making good arguments for why they are honest and truthful purveyors of reality, you seem to insult the messengers instead. Usually it’s me, but now you are actually dismissing and belittling Margaret Sullivan and James Risen?
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Yes, the Times constantly reports critically on the GOP and Trump. It is astonishing that someone could fail to see that.
You have tunnel vision. You only see what you want to see. When it suits you, you oddly discount the importance of opinion pieces which are often the most-read stories on the site. Yet when there’s an opinion piece that is hostile to Harris, you produce that as evidence of pro-Trump bias.
I now christen this syndrome as “TDS,” for Times Derangement Syndrome.
The Times is not a perfect newspaper. There are things that appear in its pages that I disagree with, just as there are things that you disagree with. Often those may not be the same things. None of that is reason to obsess over those disagreements, nor to assign blame to the NYT for the fact that many, many people see things differently than you do.
And again with the Eva Moskowitz?? You need to let that go. I don’t even know what you’re referring to at this point.
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flerp!
So now you are insinuating that Margaret Sullivan and James Risen have “Trump Derangement Syndrome” and THAT is why you needed to immediately chime in to discredit them because Diane Ravitch posted something critical of the NYT?
Do you really think that is a convincing justification for your gratuitously belittling Sullivan and Risen? You were the very first reply! Is discrediting media critics who say anything negative about the NYT that important to you?
If anyone is acting deranged, it is your obsession with making personal attacks at anyone who is critical of the NYT. Maybe you could get away with it when you just directed your invective at me – despite my quoting respected media critics.
But you’ve become so obsessed that you are trying to smear Margaret Sullivan as suffering from this fake “syndrome” too.
Who exactly supports YOUR view that requires you to belittle anyone critical of the NYT for writing their false equivalency stories? The right wing Republicans?
Please take a chill pill. Calm down. The NYT is a powerful institution and if criticism makes them better journalists, that would be a good thing.
And for the record, how would I even know you were an Eva Moskowitz/Success Academy defender if you had not criticized and belittled me frequently if I posted something negative about them or critical about the NYT coverage of them? If you have changed your mind, feel free to state that for the record. But you always were more determine to discredit and belittle critics of Success Academy just like you reacted to Diane’s post by making a sneeringly condescending remark about Margaret Sullivan because you become unreasonably defensive and angry whenever anyone criticizes certain sacred cows.
You could prove me wrong in one second — just express some criticism of Eva Moskowitz that you believe is valid. (And please don’t do what our resident Putin/Trump defender does and say she has a bad personality or say some derogatory about her hair color.) Does Success Academy dump kids who they can’t teach and then blame the kid so they can brag about working miracles? Do you finally agree that Gary Rubinstein is correct in the criticisms he makes about the charter network that clearly does not want to teach “all” the kids supposedly trapped in failing schools?
I think it is great if you want to defend the NYT or Success Academy with FACTS. Just stop making personal attacks on people who criticize them.
Trump Derangement Syndrome? Calling names isn’t a defense. It’s a lack of one.
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^^^Correction:
flerp! writes: “I now christen this syndrome as “TDS,” for Times Derangement Syndrome.”
Please excuse my error as I wrote “Trump Derangement Syndrome” in the above paragraph instead of using the correct name (as per flerp!) of this new “syndrome” flerp! has identified: the “TIMES Derangement Syndrome”. TDS.
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I would not call Margaret Sullivan part of the “cottage industry of Democrats crying about The NY Times.” She was the Times’ ombudsman. Read her article on her website about the Times changing a headline three times because their first one was deceptive.
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I think it’s good when the Times fixes headlines (which are written by copy editors) when they’re inaccurate.
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Or maybe the journalists are giving facts without opinion and allowing the readers to “put on their thinking caps” to make sense of what has happened? Let’s face it, the news industry is hanging on by a thread and journalists know it. My guess is that anyone reading the NYT is a well educated, middle>upper middle class individual, capable of sorting the “chaff from the wheat”. Most normal, working, blue collar folks don’t have the time or energy to even read a paper anymore.
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The results of the popular vote in 2016 and 2020, show me that more voters know the difference between what’s normal and what isn’t.
The majority knows that Trump is a malignant narcissist, a liar, a cheat, a convicted rapist, fraud and felon, and the other candidate is not any of those things. She’s more normal while Trump is as abnormal as they come.
Traitor Trump is so far out there, he isn’t even human, let alone normal in any way. Maybe that’s why Trump seems obsessed with Hannibal Lecter, a print and film character that has more in common with Trump than a normal person.
Still, is Trump a normal crime family boss, a normal businessman, a normal cheater, a normal liar, a normal rapist, a normal fraud, a normal felon?
Is it normal to be in love with dictators?
Is it normal to say in public that you want to date and seduce your oldest daughter?
Is it normal to steal classified documents as you are moving out of the White House?
Is it normal to hold a rally a few blocks from the Caplital building the day the 2020 vote becomes official, January 6, 2021, and then verbally send a mob to the Caplital — to hang your VP and stop the steal?
Is it normal to refuse to accept the results of elections, unless he, Trump wins, anyway possible, even by cheating and having people threatened that do not do what Trump wants?
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Lloyd,
Trump accepts election results only if he wins. If he loses, the election was rigged.
He is a spoiled brat, a very bad 2-year-old.
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Lloyd: This morning’s Joe showed an interview with
Trump where he says he lost the election “by a whisker.”
I doubt it will matter to those who have so much invested in The Lie, however, e.g., all of that “stop the steal” stuff, including the attack on the Capitol. If any of them are still sane, then they are probably trying to get away from that awful dog: embarrassment.
I do wish the press would emphasize the CHEATING issue. (You mention it above, but nor is it normal to like a cheat.) CBK
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CBK: if he admitted he lost, that’s news.
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Diane: The Trump interview where he admitted that he lost “by a whisker,” was yesterday on the Lex Fridman Podcast shown about 28 minutes into the hour on Morning Joe. (I doubt it was AI generated.) CBK
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Trump says that his life was better before he became president, but wasn’t everybody’s?
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Trump did have a better life before he became President. No one called attention to his sexual assaults on women. No one took him to court for defamation. No court fined him millions of dollars for his frauds. He could cheat on his wife, and no one cared.
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Diane: Interesting comments about Trump’s “better life.” So the normalization of those ways of being a (male?) human being has been in the works with Trump for a very long time. CBK
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I watched Jake Tapper interview John McCain’s son today and he asked if Trump apologized would everything be ok, Really? This while the network was playing back the campaign ad made out of Trump’s visit where Trump claimed no soldiers died the last 18 months of his term in office. Actually 12 servicemen died in that period with 63 dying through his four years yet no one in the press brings this up. Trump claims he was a “peace time President.” He wasn’t. He claims to have run the best economy in our history. He didn’t. Trump claims that crime was down during his time in office where Biden’s crime statistics are well below Trump’s. Biden’s current border crossings are below where they were when Trump left office. Yet, this is rarely reported by the “legacy media.” Today I was glad to see the Times report on what actually happened during Trump’s four years in office. They need to report on this every day.
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Diane: I think one of the root problems with the NYTimes and other (legitimate) news organizations is the conflict between legal objectivity and truths, and cultural objectivity and truths.
First, we are a secular culture, which does not endorse any religion, but nor does it deny what, as a culture, we choose as sacred spaces, like cemeteries. Culturally, cemeteries are sacred spaces, however you define “sacred.” And in a broader sense, though the law does not cover the religious affiliations of “the people,” that fact does not mean that sacred reverence has left the building.
Second, apparently national cemeteries have more than mere policy but also a legal order. But still, we endorse freedom of speech under the law, which leaves the Trumpian denigration of sacred spaces as repugnant, not to mention of heroes like John McCain . . . but still OKAY under the objective truth of the law, save for National cemeteries . . . but NOT OKAY as an objective cultural truth. And though one’s personal integrity is still tied to the rule of law in this culture, it is more so on the plane of socio-cultural realities.
It is profane to USE cemeteries as a means for one’s own personal gain (as means to one’s ends).
In my view, the New York Times has forgotten its responsibility to cultural objectivities and greater-than-legal truths, while apparently thinking that: if it doesn’t break the law, it’s normal, or in Trump’s case, even if it DOES break the law. In these cases (in the article), the NYTimes, rather than being responsible reporters of the news, they are not even good stenographers, or political hacks, for that matter.
And speaking of sacred, what about Trump’s having taken an OATH OF OFFICE, to uphold the Constitution, for one, and then pines about wanting to get rid of it, assaults it, and break that oath every day in so many ways. Apparently, and by its absence in the conversation, the Oath of Office has neither legal nor cultural sway and so is neither objective nor demanding of truth or of responsibility for holding to it. CBK
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ALL the “mainstream media” are minions of corporate overlords who favor keeping the tax cuts they got from Trump. If Trump is elected, they will not only keep those tax cuts, but get even more. Just look at the way the mainstream media are ignoring Trump’s mental decline. After each of his rambling, disjointed, and often bizarre (Hannibal Lecter!?!) speeches, the mainstream media write headlines that manage to make it sound like Trump not only made sense, but even made great points. In contrast, the mainstream media go out of their way to nitpick speeches by Harris and Walz.
There’s a great deal of the Fox News disease in all of the mainstream media…and it’s all about money.
On Tue, Sep 3, 2024 at 7:01 AM Diane Ravitch’s blog < comment-reply@wordpress.com> wrote:
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