Teachers who worked at Chicago’s leading charter chain spoke out to NPR and described their discomfort with the strict disciplinary code. Some called it “dehumanizing.”
“The trend toward school choice has educators across the country looking at Chicago’s Noble Charter Schools — an award-winning network of mostly high schools that specializes in helping inner-city kids achieve the kind of SAT scores that propel them into four-year universities. But despite its prestigious reputation, Noble has a peculiarly high teacher turnover rate.
“And some of those teachers are speaking up about policies they describe as “dehumanizing.”
“Noble’s handbook lists more than 20 behaviors that can elicit demerits. The dress code, for example, requires students to wear light khakis, plain black leather belts,
“Kerease Epps, who taught at Noble’s Hansberry College Prep, made sure to arrive by seven o’clock every day to help students with curved lines in their hair avoid punishment.
”“Every morning, I would color in two of my boys’ parts,” she says. ”I had a hefty amount of eyeliner at my desk, so I’d just color in with black or brown eyeliner.”
“Ann Baltzer taught chemistry at Hansberry. When one of her female students showed up with braids that included strands of maroon — the school color — the girl was told she couldn’t attend class. So she asked Baltzer to use a black marker to obliterate the maroon in each braid. The teacher looks back on that as not only unnecessary, but racist.
“To have a system that results in a white woman having to color on a black woman’s hair, and if I don’t, she’s excluded from education, there’s something wrong with that,” Baltzer says…”
Some teachers like the strict discipline and the culture change it promotes.
But turnover among teachers is high, in part because of the culture of the schools.
“It’s a completely dehumanizing system, both for teachers and students,” Baltzer says.
“One of the policies that made her most uncomfortable was demanding “level zero,” or complete silence, in the hallways during passing period, which she says teachers could activate by yelling “hands up.”
“Teachers were applauded if you had the ability to shut down the hallway,” Baltzer says. “We had no awareness that it would be inappropriate to shout ‘hands up’ at a hallway full of black children. And so we had white teachers shouting ‘Hands up’ and kids putting their hands up and going silent. That is insane.”

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“Students who get 26 detentions have to attend two character development classes. Students who receive more than 36 detentions in a year are automatically ineligible for promotion to the next grade. Consequently, a significant percentage of students opt to transfer out of Noble rather than repeat a grade. ”
It seems like this would be the bigger concern. They’re not dropping off the face of the earth when they “transfer out”- they’re going to another public school.
The “culture” training, as a practical matter, is a method for creaming students.
Let’s see a study on the missing students – where do they go? Why focus exclusively on the students who fit in? It’s part of a public system.
Public schools could do this too. They could start with 100 students, graduate 25 after 4 years and claim success. But if no one is accounting for the 75 who left then they’re not really part of a public system. They’re actually reliant on the public system taking the students who wash out to keep their reputation. Who decided that was okay? That the public schools should be the “default” for the “choice” system? I don’t think anyone in the public affirmatively signed on to that.
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It’s our Politicians and BIG $$$$$ folks who need NO EXCUSE DISCIPLINE for ALL the BAD THINGS they have foisted on our young, our Public School Teachers, and our Public Schools.
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Ed reformers are fond of saying “all means all”. Except these schemes they set up don’t reflect that.
There’s this whole missing group of students who wash out and no one seems at all concerned that they’re landing back in the public schools ed reformers disdain. THOSE students are never studied. We’re only getting half this story. There’s this silent and ignored public system operating in the background that is really essential to the “choice” system, and no one wants to talk about it.
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Chiara: you are quite right, as others have done and do, that the peddlers, enablers and enforcers of privatization use words in ways that obscure, mislead and deceive.
The Noble Charter Schools can rightly be considered one of the successes of the corporate education reform movement.
They just neglect to mention that they define “success” as failing (literally and symbolically) so many of their own students [not to mention those that they don’t even let in to begin with].
And, in the spirit of Ionesco—“It is not the answer that enlightens, but the question”—
Just what kind of graduates do the Noble Charter Schools produce? Have they learned, in deep internalized ways, the behaviors, attitudes and expectations of citizens of a democracy? Or have they learned how to be part of societies that are anything but democratic?
Thank you for you comments here and elsewhere on this thread.
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Rahm-BOO!
I would like to USE ‘NO EXCUSE” discipline re: Politicians and BIG $$$$$?
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“Myisha Shields is happy with Noble. She even traveled to the state capitol with Noble’s lobbyist to tell lawmakers how much her daughter Astazia enjoys being a sophomore at Noble’s newest campus, Mansueto College Prep.
“She says, ‘Mom, it’s a whole other environment! We can’t get away with the little things. The little things matter! Like when you sit with your head on your hand, you get a demerit,’” Shields says. “And I was like ‘Ok that’s good! It’s just teaching you how to sit up and stop being slouchy.’””
OMG. Words fail. I am seriously concerned for Ms. Shields’ mental health. What kid is happy to get a demerit for something so stupid?
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I think the mom is grateful that kids actually get consequences. In my experience many (not all) black parents want schools to dole out more consequences, not fewer. Their style of behavior management at home is much stricter than what most public schools deliver.
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So you are implying that many (not all) white parents DON’T want the school to dole out more consequences and want kids to be able to act out violently as much as they want with no consequences?
But somehow their schools work anyway?
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About 20 years ago the small Catholic school here advertised that “all” of their 8th grade graduates went on to be top 10% in the (public) high school. That was true, as far as it went. What they didn’t say though is that they were shedding students every year between kindergarten and 8th grade, so they would end up with 8th grade classes of 6 children.
We finally had a public school superintendent who pointed this out to them and they stopped using the stat in their ads. Because it’s misleading. “All” of their graduates went on to be top 10% because by the time they got to 8th grade all of the non-top ten percenters had been washed out to the public school. We got those students, which is fine- it’s a public school, but it was in no way a fair comparison and it was mathematically misleading. “All” often doesn’t mean “all.
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Sounds like the charters who graduate all 11 12th grade students.
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Exactly. No excuses is about having lots of impossible to follow 100% rules on the books that you can use to target, punish, and humiliate low-performing students and ignore when students who are doing fine academically “break” one.
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https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/perspectives-on-politics/article/testing-theories-of-american-politics-elites-interest-groups-and-average-citizens/62327F513959D0A304D4893B382B992B/core-reader
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“Some teachers like the strict discipline and the culture change it promotes.”
I’d like to know more about the ‘culture change it promotes”. The best qualities of mankind involve experiencing and seeing beauty, love, compassion, creativity and joy. Being in an environment that is oblivious to those qualities has to be promoting something ugly. Can kids grow while becoming unthinking robots whose lives are dominated by such strictness? How can anyone thrive in such harshness?
What kind of teachers like this strict discipline? I would not get along very well with them. Our goals for humanity clash.
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Doncha know, stuff like “Hands up!” Teaches African American children how to behave when white people address them on the street.
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“Hands up”?
Of course, that’s also what the police shout when they have just caught a bank robber.
Just a coincidence, I am sure.
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I am reminded that the schools for American Indian kids tried in a similar fashion to drive the culture out of their students. These schools were expressly for this purpose, just as the communist schools in Stalin’s Soviet system were for driving out any suggestion that Stalin was anything but God-like. Fascist systems did the same.
Modern proponents of these systems point to the culture of poverty needing to be changed. There is some truth in this, for deeply ingrained resistance to learning is often embedded in subcultures of lower socioeconomic classes. Unfortunately, the discipline systems that pick at tiny behaviors exist only to remove those who cannot do it.
Ed McGaa, a Souix writer, pointed out that young men who elected to go through the traditional Souix cleansing ritual were much more likely to be good members of modern Souix communities. These rigorous rituals of pain and self-deprivation would naturally predict that. Basic training washes recruits out of every branch of military service. Famously, Michael Jordan failed to make the basketball team until he was older. Do all successful programs have to be based on the idea that achievement is based on exclusion on someone?
The answer is a resounding NO! where education is concerned. We are not in the business of determining who wins or loses. We are in the process of attempting to create a fertile pool of people who can grow future generations of contributing citizens. In order to add to this pool, we need all types of people. We need not to exclude those who do not happen to fit our perfect picture of humanity, for the excluded ones will be our next generation of parents.
Perhaps there is a place for exclusive clubs, but it is not in our public education system.
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If there was a resistance to learning among Native Americans, it was only a resistance to learning the white man’s ways because education ( in hunting and in tribal culture) was always very important among Native Americans.
Native Americans might have been poor by the standards of whites, but they had what they needed before the Europeans came and were rich culturally and spiritually.
That so many are living in poverty today is largely due to the fact that, long ago, they were given an either or choice: either reject their own culture and adopt the consumptive, materialistic culture of white Europeans or stay confined to the reservation where there were few opportunities — few opportunities even to continue their previous lifestyle, since in many cases the land they got was very poor and I some cases far away from their original home.
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“There is some truth in this, for deeply ingrained resistance to learning is often embedded in subcultures of lower socioeconomic classes.”
Um, well….
Not resistance to learning. Learning is inherent in the human species (and, actually, all species). The resistance is resistance to being annihilated both personally and culturally, which is what happens when oppressed people are forced to learn the dominant culture and only the dominant culture, which is what school often represents to oppressed people. It’s actually a very healthy reaction psychologically speaking, even if it’s not adaptive to living in the dominant culture. It’s kind of a Catch-22 – should oppressed people deny their cultural identity to be able to survive in the dominant culture, or should they reject the dominant culture and thereby marginalize themselves in that culture? The former leads to mental health crisis, the latter to generational poverty for which they are blamed for making “bad” choices. Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.
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I was actually thinking about some families in which being successful and moving somewhere to get a job means you are persona non grata within the family. I see what you are saying about the cultural thing.
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‘Aha Pūnana Leo: Overcoming Policy Barriers
Considering the violent history of America’s education system towards Native Americans, it is perhaps unsurprising that policy barriers continue to hinder contemporary language revitalization schools.
Federal policies are often misaligned with the reality of tribal communities and language revitalization schools. Leslie Harper, president of the advocacy group National Coalition of Native American Language Schools and Programs, says schools often risk losing funding because they lack qualified teachers who meet federal standards. But these standards are paternalistic, notes Harper, who says that fluent language teachers at Native schools are often trained outside of accredited teaching colleges, which don’t offer relevant Native language teaching programs. These teaching colleges don’t “respond to our needs for teachers in Indian communities,” she says.
In Hawai’i, ‘Aha Pūnana Leo schools have had some success in overcoming policy barriers like these. The schools have led the way for statewide and national policy change in Native language education.
When the first preschool was founded in 1984, activists estimated that fewer than 50 children spoke Hawaiian statewide. Today, ‘Aha Pūnana Leo runs 21 language medium schools serving thousands of students throughout the state, from preschool through high school. Because of this success, emerging revitalization schools and researchers alike look to ‘Aha Pūnana Leo as a model.
Nāmaka Rawlins is the director of strategic collaborations at ‘Aha Pūnana Leo. Like Harper, she says that required academic credentialing burdened the language preschools, which relied on fluent elders. This became an issue in 2012 when kindergarten was made compulsory in Hawai’i, and teachers and directors of preschools were required to be accredited. But she, along with other Hawaiian language advocates, advocated for changes to these state regulations to exclude Hawaiian preschools from the requirement and instead accredit their own teachers as local, indigenous experts. And they succeeded. “We got a lot of flack from the preschool community,” she says. “Today, we provide our own training and professional development.”
One of the early successes of ‘Aha Pūnana Leo was removing the ban on the use of Hawaiian language in schools, which had been illegal for nearly a century. Four years later, in 1990, the passage of the Native American Language Act affirmed that Native American children across the nation have the right to be educated, express themselves, and be assessed in their tribal language.
But according to Harper, progress still needs to be made before NALA is fully implemented by the Education Department. Since 2016, Native American language medium schools have been able to assess students in their language. This took years of advocacy by people like Harper, who served on the US Department of Education’s Every Student Succeeds Act Implementation Committee and pushed for the change.
While this is an important first step, Harper is concerned that because language medium school assessments must be peer reviewed, low capacity schools — or those that lack the technical expertise of developing assessments that align with federal standards — will be burdened. And the exemption doesn’t apply to high schools.
Studies from multiple language revitalization schools have found that students who attend these schools have greater academic achievement than those who attend English-speaking schools, including scoring significantly higher on standardized tests. “We are beginning to see the long-term benefits of language revitalization and language-medium education in our kids,” Harper says. “But the public education system and laws are still reticent about us developing programs of instruction for our students.
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Surprised, but pleased, to see NPR do something other than uncritically promote these racist sweatshops, since that’s what they’ve been doing for years now.
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It is my belief that high teacher turnover rate is always a smoke signal, so to speak. In this case, it sounds as if cultural competency training is in order. Culturally insensitive teachers can potentially inflict long term damage on students’ educational goals.
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A great connection: teach turnover a signal something like the canary in the coal mine
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Anyone who believes this nonsense should just look at what happens when a charter network that specializes in “no excuses” tries to use it on the children whose parents are middle class, often white, and college educated:
https://nycpublicschoolparents.blogspot.com/2017/10/hudson-yards-success-charter-parents-to.html
“HYSA faculty broke our children’s spirit and erased their self confidence in less than 3 weeks. Our children who once loved the SA, who were proud of being a part of a great school, rallied in Albany and other events, now simply no longer want to go to school.
Some of our children are getting physically sick, experiencing meltdowns, vomiting, having nightmares and/or having sleepless nights and are unable to concentrate etc.
…….Since school started most of the scholars were detained at least once for reasons that can hardly justify such an extreme measure. Examples:
• Not locking their hands….”
This no-excuses discipline is used for ONE reason — to give these no excuses schools the very excuse they need to target the children they don’t want in their charters and to overlook it when they children are high performing and inexpensive to teach.
Needless to say, I suspect that Success Academy Hudson Yards’ principal — who was trained in one of their schools with virtually no white children and was simply giving the affluent children the same type of “no excuses” treatment that he was required to give to low-income non-white students — was given his marching orders. That naive principal did not realize that if an affluent student performs fine academically, small transgressions shall be tolerated, but if a poor student has academic struggles, then the most severe discipline shall be meted out to him or her. As we saw their “model” teacher practice when she was caught on video demonstrating how you target a low-income student who isn’t wanted while the more affluent and higher performing students are treated with the kindness their value to the charter network requires.
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“No excuses” discipline is based on the assumption that black and brown children are incapable of self control and being responsible. This belief is racist at its core. I worked with black and brown students that lacked typical social skills for many years. What they respond to is consistency, consequences and TLC, very much the same as white students. They also need academic challenge to establish that learning is expected in the relationship. These students can present a challenge for a teacher at the start, and classes size should be limited to no more than twenty as these students have much to learn and no time to waste. They need support, not domination. I am white, and I found the vast majority of my black and brown students can be taught responsibility and find the joy of learning.
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“IgNoble Network”
The network is IgNoble
That tells the kids “Hands up!”
Considers them a trouble
And wants them all to “Stop!”
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What are “curved lines in their hair”? And why is it particularly racist for a White woman to color in a Black woman’s hair? I feel like I’m missing a LOT here.
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