Nicole Hannah-Jones, a staff writer for the New York Times magazine, aptly describes the perilous condition of public education, as the privatization movement moves in to kill public education. The very idea that schools should operate like businesses and that families are “consumers,” eats away at the promise of public education.
In the days leading up to and after Betsy DeVos’s confirmation as secretary of education, a hashtag spread across Twitter: #publicschoolproud. Parents and teachers tweeted photos of their kids studying, performing, eating lunch together. People of all races tweeted about how public schools changed them, saved them, helped them succeed. The hashtag and storytelling was a rebuttal to DeVos, who called traditional public schools a “dead end” and who bankrolled efforts to pass reforms in Michigan, her home state, that would funnel public funds in the form of vouchers into religious and privately operated schools and encouraged the proliferation of for-profit charter schools. The tweets railed against DeVos’s labeling of public schools as an industry that needed to adopt the free-market principles of competition and choice. #Publicschoolproud was seen as an effort to show that public schools still mattered.
But the enthusiastic defense obscured a larger truth: We began moving away from the “public” in public education a long time ago. In fact, treating public schools like a business these days is largely a matter of fact in many places. Parents have pushed for school-choice policies that encourage shopping for public schools that they hope will give their children an advantage and for the expansion of charter schools that are run by private organizations with public funds. Large numbers of public schools have selective admissions policies that keep most kids out. And parents pay top dollar to buy into neighborhoods zoned to “good” public schools that can be as exclusive as private ones. The glaring reality is, whether we are talking about schools or other institutions, it seems as if we have forgotten what “public” really means.
Public schools were supported by all, because they were for the benefit of all, whether or not they used the schools themselves, whether or not they had children.
Early on, it was this investment in public institutions that set America apart from other countries. Public hospitals ensured that even the indigent received good medical care — health problems for some could turn into epidemics for us all. Public parks gave access to the great outdoors not just to the wealthy who could retreat to their country estates but to the masses in the nation’s cities. Every state invested in public universities. Public schools became widespread in the 1800s, not to provide an advantage for particular individuals but with the understanding that shuffling the wealthy and working class together (though not black Americans and other racial minorities) would create a common sense of citizenship and national identity, that it would tie together the fates of the haves and the have-nots and that doing so benefited the nation. A sense of the public good was a unifying force because it meant that the rich and the poor, the powerful and the meek, shared the spoils — as well as the burdens — of this messy democracy.
The New Deal fostered a strong public sector, but it also was ridiculed and condemned by a small minority who resented the effort to include everyone in good works. This minority sowed the seeds of the libertarian, free-market, anti-government movement that is now controlling the federal government and many states.
She reminds us that the movement away from public schools began with segregationists who wanted to keep their all-white schools. Betsy DeVos speaks for them when she lauds school choice.
Even when they fail, the guiding values of public institutions, of the public good, are equality and justice. The guiding value of the free market is profit. The for-profit charters DeVos helped expand have not provided an appreciably better education for Detroit’s children, yet they’ve continued to expand because they are profitable — or as Tom Watkins, Michigan’s former education superintendent, said, “In a number of cases, people are making a boatload of money, and the kids aren’t getting educated.”
Democracy works only if those who have the money or the power to opt out of public things choose instead to opt in for the common good. It’s called a social contract, and we’ve seen what happens in cities where the social contract is broken: White residents vote against tax hikes to fund schools where they don’t send their children, parks go untended and libraries shutter because affluent people feel no obligation to help pay for things they don’t need. “The existence of public things — to meet each other, to fight about, to pay for together, to enjoy, to complain about — this is absolutely indispensable to democratic life,” Honig says.
If there is hope for a renewal of our belief in public institutions and a common good, it may reside in the public schools. Nine of 10 children attend one, a rate of participation that few, if any, other public bodies can claim, and schools, as segregated as many are, remain one of the few institutions where Americans of different classes and races mix. The vast multiracial, socioeconomically diverse defense of public schools that DeVos set off may show that we have not yet given up on the ideals of the public — and on ourselves.
Make no mistake: Betsy DeVos is a dedicated enemy of public schools. She threatens to destroy the educational system that produced the most powerful economy on earth. She must be resisted at every turn.

The whole cabal has to be rejected .
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Indeed. Our unions our professional organizations are all sending alerts. We must contact members of the education committee and reject the voucher proposals. I can post the link to all members on the committee. Spread the word. Post on social media.
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This is one of the best perspectives I have seen about vouchers. It was posted under the comment section in the above article. “You’re absolutely right; the misconception being sold to the masses is that vouchers will give parents this incredible school choice. Yes, if you have the means. This whole scheme is nothing more than welfare for the 1% to offset the price of private school and corporate welfare for those private institutions who will profit directly from the public’s coffers and without any accountability or oversight.” This is a powerful message about vochers that we need to share with the public. Plain and simple I see vouchers as the ruination of the public school system.
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This is a very insightful article, especially where it points out that some public schools are exclusive in the way they do things. While I heartily agree that vouchers and charters have undermined the notion of the public good in education, I have always maintained that those who move to the isolated suburb so their children will be “in a good school” and then support the low tax government hands off approach to modern politics are doing the same thing.
In Tennessee, some years ago, a conservative republican pointed out the need for revenue from an income tax for the proper funding of higher education. He was vilified by a group which joined rural conservatives and suburban low tax advocates in a rush toward more regressive taxation and the underfunding of government. Almost two decades later, a Republician far to the right cannot even get a republican legislature to fund roads for a state that is rapidly expanding.
Strong traditions of private education have existed in this country along side strong public schools. Vouchers that blur the lines between public and private will hurt both these traditions.
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“. . . for a state that is rapidly expanding.”
Hmmm, I wonder what Kentucky, Alabama and all the other states bordering Tennessee think about that??
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Nice joke, Duane. If your consider all the roll tide bumper stickers, you might think Alabama was trying to take over.
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Just having a little fun with ya. Nothing more. We all make those kind of simple errors.
I actually have a bit of a fond spot for TN as I’ve visited my brother and his wife in Jackson quite a few times.
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All educators and patients must become much more vocal and demand a strong public education for all students.
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AND those willing to take on political positions as absolute, no gimmicks public school supporters must be found and encouraged to run.
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This past Tuesday I spoke to my local school board with a list of recent items at the state and federal level that, taken together and is successfully implemented, will kill public education as we know it. I requested that the school board act as a convener to explain these issues to the voters in our district as well as to reach out to surrounding school boards to engage in a variety of public education efforts to explain the threats to public education (didn’t mean to be should repetitive). Of course, the local community weekly newspaper mischaracterized my remarks as being about one specific piece of state legislation—which was one tenth of my remarks. Wrote a letter to them with the full scope of my remarks and will report back should they publish it.
Everyone who participates in this blog should at a minimum: reach out to their local school boards and neighbors to explain the threats to public education and what must be done to counter them. If we don’t act locally and just kvetch among ourselves about national issues, we will surely lose.
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if successfully implemented
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didn’t meat to be repetitive
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Our public schools are a cornerstone of democracy that must be protected for future generations. I went back and reread Steven Singer’s post about the founding fathers opposing “choice.” Washington saw common schools as a way to educate members of society so they may fully participate in a democracy. He states:
This mission of public education is as important today as it was in Washington’s day. In a nation of immigrants, it is important that all those that live here understand the responsibilities of participating in government. The future of a democratic government depends on it. We are losing sight of this important mission. With our current income inequality, the 1% are trying to disinvest in all things public. The fact is they have no need for the common good or democracy. The rich have no need for the rest of us other than to use us a consumers to enrich themselves. Wealth equals power, and they are buying our representatives to circumvent democracy. Unless the many stand up and fight for our right to authentic public education, the oligarchs will control most of our public assets and our children and grandchildren’s future.
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Great quote from Washington. Teach “the science of government”, he says. This is a “species of knowledge”, he says. Amen. Let us teach this knowledge far more thoroughly and indelibly that we’re doing now.
Ed school fake pedagogy notwithstanding, education is about imbuing key knowledge indelibly.
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I think the privatizers are winning because of their rhetoric: “School choice” and “student-centered” etc. I wrote a letter to Sen.Toomey about my hope that he would vote against Betsy DeVos and the response he emailed me was all about what’s best for children, etc. Nothing about privatization. For advocates of public education, even the term “public education” may not work anymore. “Neighborhood schools” or “local schools” may help, I don’t know. We have to tell the story more effectively than the other side. And, it should not be hard, with 90 percent of students attending public schools, but the attacks on public education are just relentless. I’m so frustrated! The irony is that some people who think they want vouchers also want the back-up of their neighborhood public schools. They want the freedom to go between the two worlds but don’t realize if you de-fund schools, the neighborhood school may cease to exist.
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There is a great deal of confusion surrounding privatization. Since I cross post on social media, I often have people challenge my statements. When I discussed that charters cause public schools to lose money, one woman stated that charters are free because she pays nothing. The public does not understand much because the corporate vandals and the 1% don’t want the public to understand the full impact of charters or vouchers. Since these privateers have so much money, all we hear is the wonders of “choice.”
Rhetoric has impact. Instead of charters, we should call them “corporate schools.” Instead of “choice,” we should call it privatization, and we should point out that most public schools offer more options or choice than charters where it is often the school that does the choosing. We do need to get information out to the public as the privateers keep trying to stack the deck against public education.
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Corporate schools has a ring of accuracy. Profiteering of our children’s education (just like profiteering off our prisons) is something most can relate to. Here in Ohio we have the failed, corrupt ECOT online “schools” plundering public coffers. It is owned by K12. This graphic gets people to notice what is going on: http://insiders.morningstar.com/trading/executive-compensation.action?t=LRN
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Support and transform, do not denigrate and destroy.
The business model, privatization and data-based punitive learning are all dead ends and excuses for giving up on public education as we know it. They in fact represent ways of giving up on our humanity. There must be a substantial buffer between the realm of education and personal growth and business, especially business politics, which can often lack any sort of moral or even just center. Look at the position we’re in now. Look how dangerously stupid our business politics have gotten.
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Public schools can build immunity to the voucher virus by:
Ditching half-baked, ill-conceived initiatives like Common Core/NGSS and returning to the time-honored practice of teaching well about the world we live in.
Dealing more effectively with disruptive students.
Instituting limited tracking –e.g. a “challenge” track that any ambitious student can opt into. This will tamp down professional parents from wanting to withdraw from public schools. Let’s not make the perfect the enemy of the good.
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What you describe sounds a lot like my former district, a diverse suburban district, where I worked before the CCSS were introduced. This district has about 30% free lunch students, and about half of the 30% is poor ELLs. We had a very active NAACP and a civil rights lawyer board member that watched us like hawks. I say this as a good thing because we made conscious decision to be more inclusive. We ran a summer program in middle school to encourage minority students to take Regents and AP courses, and we detracked the high school. We also ran in school suspension for disruptors. The policy helped the “just annoying” to stop being annoying because they hated the in school isolation and seat work. Parents loved it too. I don’t know if other schools have tried it, but it worked well for us. The district has a high graduation and college attendance rate.
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I believe that Ms. DeVoss may not be the appropriate person in the position of power that has been suggested she equate herself with. However, I believe it is too simplistic to suggest that public education is working, thus no person should not “attack” or as some people who have come to disagree, STRONGLY by use of violence and ignorance toward our current president, like him or not (I did not vote for our current president). I believe our Founding Fathers wrote in much of the freedoms we bask in because of many people who have sacrificed their own life and their own standing to give you and I the audacious right to sanctimoniously ridicule and verbally dismember our great nation.
The attack on Ms. DeVoss may indeed be worthy of a voice however, isn’t it always in ALL our best interest to use the democratic constraints and privileges we have been afforded to deal with such issues with as Tavis Smiley likes to say “integrity”. If we are so hateful and disillusioned by how things are, I believe it is all our responsibility as CITIZENS of the great nation we live. I believe apologizing for America for being America and for working on behalf that all American children should have the privilege to a Free and Appropriate Public Education is not only ludicrous it is preposterous.
I believe there are things Ms. DeVoss needs to have a grasp of in the realm of educational understanding that she doesn’t, because she never taught. I agree with the assertion, the person in her position should understand how and what teachers go through to make appropriate decisions.
However, lambasting her because of vouchers is not the way to change the system. If you don’t want vouchers your state delegates need to be told that. Laws can be put into place that detour or eliminate “for profit” schools. Charter schools can be a very realistic option for students and families if the public schools cannot or WILL NOT meet their child’s needs. Vouchers for private religious schools is crazy. Why a private Christian school would want to take federal funds just to have the federal gov’t stick their proverbial noses in their business is beyond comprehension to me. It is very counterproductive in a manner that is out of this world, literally and figuratively.
However, to say that a lifelong so called politician who has been voted in to SERVE his/her constituents and is a known legal criminal is anymore qualified to run our great nation than Ms. DeVoss just because she didn’t teach is a judgement call with or without basis or facts to back up that assertion.
Does a president have to have political experience to be a great president? We will see. Our current president is not what I would call a typical politician, however, isn’t that what many millions of Americans both liberal and conservative have been complaining about for decades. Do we trust politicians? Most polls say “no” on a larger scale.
Maybe, Ms. DeVoss will do a great job. Maybe she won’t but to unilaterally rake someone over the proverbial coals without giving them a chance seems kind of “childish, immature and shortsighted” in the way I was taught to look at life. How is the judgment going without being the actual judge?
I would say I don’t agree with the appointment of Ms. DeVoss based on the fact that I believe teachers need unions, I don’t like “for profit” schools ( I think they are detrimental to children’s lives) and I believe anyone who is in that position needs to have first walked in the shoes of those they claim to serve. She has never been a teacher, therefore, dare I say, “yes” I agree that she is not the right choice. However, it is what it is and if we don’t like it than laws need to change to deter or eliminate “for profit” schools for kids in the K-12 system.
I believe public education can be and has been great and very beneficial for me and millions of other children however, we don’t know do we, what kind of job she will do. Maybe your hateful thoughts toward her come to fruition maybe not. However, we still live in the USA the greatest country in the world. And this country historically has respected those that might think outside the box.
I have taught in public, private and a charter school. All teachers that I have worked with
as far as I know want the best for their students.
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“Teacher,”
Neither I nor anyone else says that public schools are all they should be or might be. Please read “Reign of Error.” Our public schools are working remarkably well, however, in dealing with underinvestment and a startling level of poverty, as well as the need to help children of all types. Unlike voucher schools and charter schools, public schools can’t choose whom they educate. We are now confronting a crisis of our society, i.e. its tolerance of high levels of poverty, which leads to a multitude of very expensive social problems. Betsy DeVos is entirely unaware of any of this. She seems to think that if everyone gets Christianized, the world will be well.
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I am often astounded by people who comment on this blog who have not read “The Death and Life…” and “Reign of Error.” Whether one agrees with the arguments in them or not, reading them does give us a common vocabulary and framework within which we can express ideas. I am open, as I am sure you are, Diane, to disagreements as long as they can be expressed with a knowledge of the arguments in those books. I just haven’t read or heard of any that lead me question them.
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Thanks, GregB.
Everything in those two books was documented. If people want to disagree, they are welcome to, preferably with better documentation.
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Teacher, did the private schools and charter schools you have taught in accept all students? Children with severe behavioral and emotional problems? Children who are ELL’s? Children with special educational needs, especially severe disabilities?
Because most charters and private schools do not, except for those who have been set up specifically for those students. (And that’s not all that many of them.)
The public schools, on the other hand, must take “all comers.” They don’t have a choice, they must take them and do the best they can to educate them. All the while their funding keeps getting cut because that funding is going to non-publicly-accountable charter and private schools.
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“I believe our Founding Fathers wrote in much of the freedoms we bask in because of many people who have sacrificed their own life and their own standing to give you and I the audacious right to sanctimoniously ridicule and verbally dismember our great nation.”
We all have our “beliefs” and opinions. Those beliefs often clash with other’s beliefs. May I assume that those to whom you say as having sacrificed so much are those Native Americans, African American Slaves, white indentured servants, women who weren’t afforded the vote by those Founding Fathers to name just a few of the groups???
I doubt that is to whom you refer.
Yes, I am one who “sanctimoniously ridicule and verbally dismember our great (sic) nation. I do so because I can see and recognize that American Exceptionalism is a crock of night waste.
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Duane, I agree.
This nation has a lot that we should be sorry for, and continue to be sorry for.
It drives me crazy when people cannot recognize that the USA has problems that desperately need to be fixed, but instead are all about “We are the greatest country in the world!”
They need to travel more, read more, and start thinking for themselves.
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In my anecdotal experience, those who beat their chests most vehemently about “we still live in the USA the greatest country in the world” have rarely, if ever, traveled outside the country (indeed, they have traveled very little WITHIN the country). According to State Dept. statistics, about 36% of Americans even own a passport. Of those the vast majority have taken one trip in their lives, mostly as a part of a guided/escorted/planned tour. So like Americans who travel to all-inclusive resorts in the Caribbean, hardly any of them actually spend time with real people where they actually live. Many reputable sources estimate that less than 5% of Americans travel overseas per year, and again, for most of them it’s a once twice in a lifetime trip.
These nationalist jingoists not only know anything about the rest of the world, they are as likely to be woefully ignorant of their own nation’s history, culture, or current events. So it’s pretty easy for them to claim and justify that they “we still live in the USA the greatest country in the world.” The less you know, the more likely you are to be pleased with your limited views.
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Well stated GregB!
“mostly as a part of a guided/escorted/planned tour.” Or for some a stint in the military on a base in a foreign country.
Having studied and live abroad (Mexico and Peru) and being part of the daily life of ordinary citizens I can attest that it is inherently different than a tour or tour of duty. To live that daily life one has to know the language which is probably the single biggest thing that most Americans lack-that intimate understanding of the “other” through language.
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Our public schools are somewhat adrift in part because they’ve lost sight of their true mission: to dispel ignorance. Let us teach! Let us tell, lucidly, about the world! Instead we’re having students “do work” (how often do students hear that phrase –“you need to do your work”?) in the vain hope that mental exercise is the royal road to intelligence. It’s not. Knowledge is. The fact that all facts are on Google does not obviate the need to install knowledge in brains. Installed essential knowledge is the only way to enable people to use Google intelligently and fruitfully. Without it, Google teaches that the world is flat and that contrails are “chemtrails” (government spaying poison on the populace) and that Fox is really fair and balanced.
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Ponderosa,
I think you are far too hard on the schools. They are doing their best under difficult circumstances, what with legislators telling them what to do, what to teach, even how to teach. I know you are a follower of E.D. Hirsch Jr. I have read everything Don Hirsch has written, and I once served on his board (until he sold the rights to Rupert Murdoch). Not even Core Knowledge is enough to cure the effects of poverty and inequality. That’s the insight I had that Don Hirsch did not. As the song in 3Penny Opera says, “First feed the face, and then teach right and wrong.”
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Yes, Diane, I agree.
When schools and teachers get punished if their students do not get higher and higher scores each year on the standardized tests, when public schools get their funding cut every year because some of their funding goes to charter schools (or private schools in those states who allow vouchers), when those charters and private schools can dump any kids with problems back to the increasingly poorly resourced public schools, what the he!! can we expect?
“Common Core” and all the testing do nothing to address poverty and inequality.
The schools in the districts where the majority of the parents are middle class, upper middle class, and well-educated do well, for the most part. (Surprise!) and the schools in poverty-stricken neighborhoods do not, for the most part. (Again, surprise!)
Until this country makes a true commitment to do something about poverty and inequality, all the testing and charter schools and private schools and Common Core standards in the world are not going to solve any educational problems.
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Diane,
I absolutely agree that teaching core knowledge is not sufficient to close the achievement gap, but it is necessary. And that’s what most of my colleagues, sadly, do not understand. This thought-error is positively harmful. We need to fix this thought-error. I see it as akin to Ptolemy vs. Copernicus: does the sun revolve around the earth or vice versa. Should teaching knowledge revolve around exercising skills or vice versa? It’s vice versa –exercising skills must revolve around teaching knowledge — and refusing to see this has huge implications on the efficacy of what we’re trying to do ESPECIALLY for the poor. I’d like to add that the thought-error is not at all confined to public schools –most charters and many private schools make the same mistake. I’m just urging that public schools fix this error because I care about them more than the others. I truly feel that if we fix this error, we’ll have a much easier time vanquishing the privatizers. It’s a needless self-inflicted injury.
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I’ll compliment her. I love Betsy DeVos. She is great for public education because her extremist views and inexperience based gaffes expose the injustice of privatization to the voting public, and make school “choice” the object of widespread derision it should be. She is a wolf in wolf clothing. Finally!
The Times article cited in this post was well written truthfulness and insight.
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This New York Times piece tells me it’s time to bring out mine of years ago, “One Radical Idea to Fix Public Schools.” It appeared in many TABs in the Boston area and again in Education News in 2011.
http://www.educationnews.org/education-policy-and-politics/miriam-k-freedman-one-radical-idea-to-fix-public-schools/.
The Times piece argues that the Betsy Devos confirmation and push for vouchers and what’s called “privatization” underscores an erosion of public education. It asserts, “We began moving away from the “public” in public education a long time ago.” The article then traces the history of this trend—starting with the 1960’s desegregation orders—to today’s push for charters, vouchers for private or public schools, and parental choice. It concludes with this, “Democracy works only if those who have the money or the power to opt out of public things choose instead to opt in for the common good.”
Alas, that’s not what the haves and have nots are doing.
In “One Radical Idea to Fix Public Schools,” I wrote that, after much thought and agony, the only way to “fix” public schools is to close all private schools. Imagine that. While I’m not naïve to think that it’ll happen—and the trends are certainly in the other direction–so long as it doesn ‘t happen, we continue to deal with two groups of children: our children and other people’s children. How can that sustain o ur country? I don’t believe it can. In dreaming big, were it to happen (that is, only public schools were available, I predict that policies and practices for the good of ALL children—not separated by different special interest groups— would quickly return to public schools. We would all be in the same boat—and either float or drown together.
The piece predicted that within a year, “our schools would be fixed—kids would learn, discipline would be in place, teachers would have time to teach, and the sun would shine upon all of us.”
Check it out! It’s as timely as ever. What do you think?
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Public Education is already dead. It is just that most people have not noticed. The rich liberal elites (Clinton/Obama/Franken etc) send their children to exclusive private schools, while fighting school choice for the remainder of the citizens. Rich people move to neighborhoods, where the public schools are terrific. Poor people, live in areas where the tax base is eroded or gone, and thence there is no money to provide decent schools.
School choice and vouchers, will provide other parents, who are not rich, with SOME of the choices, which are already possessed by the rich liberal elites, who claim they are for public schools (while sending their own kids to private schools).
The battle for school choice/vouchers will be carried on in the states, not at the federal level, because 92% of the money is already state/municipal. Going after the new EdSec is just a waste of time, and tilting at windmills.
“Fight the battles you can win”- Sun-Tzu in “The Art of War”
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Charles,
Nearly 90% of American school children go to public schools and you declare them dead? Why don’t you and DeVos go float away to a desert island and mumble these incantations to yourselves.
Public education is central to democracy. It is now and will always be, long after people like you are gone.
Are you Betsy DeVos in drag?
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Perhaps a more accurate expression, would be to say that public education, as we have known it, is dead, or at least on life support.
Secretary DeVos, and people like me, who support school choice, are a fact of life. Republicans now control the Presidency, both houses of Congress, and 32 state legislatures and 33 governorships. see http://www.dailykos.com/story/2016/11/14/1598918/-Republicans-now-dominate-state-government-with-32-legislatures-and-33-governors
After many years in the political wilderness, our time has come.
No one is asserting that citizen should not be educated, in order to sustain a democracy. The only is debate, is to how they should be educated, and who should control the public education purse.
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Charles, let’s pretend that your child has been harassed for several years by a ruthless gang in the neighborhood. They rob him, they beat him up, they take his money. You report it to the police but the father of the worst bully is chief of police. You love your child. You don’t want to move. Do you throw up your hands and say, “well, he is as good as dead, no use resisting the gang.” I say no.
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Q No one is asserting that citizen should not be educated, in order to sustain a democracy. The only is debate, is to how they should be educated, and who should control the public education purse.END Q
My grammatical mistakes!
Here is the corrected version:
No one is asserting that citizens should not be educated, in order to sustain a democracy. The only debate is how they should be educated, and who should control the public education purse.
Of course, a properly educated citizenry is absolutely necessary for self-government.
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The only question legislatures should consider is how to fund the public schools their state constitutions require, and vouchers fund private religious entities not public schools . The public should be asked by the legislature whether the public taxes should be given to subsidize no public schools. So far, the public has always voted NO
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Who said Clinton and Obama were liberal? They weren’t.
Betsy DeVos in drag… Good one, Diane. Additionally, as an English teacher, I am opposed to the repeated use of misplaced commas by Betsy in Male Drag, and to the sophomoric understanding of intellectual subject matter it suggests of the writer. I’m sorry, Male Betsy, was that too cold? Oops! I will have to try harder to maintain a modicum of decorum in the future, even when my profession is being ridiculously insulted without just cause. Public education is a public good, Charlie.
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I say Clinton/Obama are liberals. Also, many political observers, including the left-center National Review see http://www.nationalreview.com/article/442105/hillary-clinton-democrats-obamas-charm-great-his-coattails-short
After many decades of observing education issues in the USA (and abroad), I have a good understanding of the subject. Also, I went to public schools (except for the 4th grade), and graduated a public university.
I have never insulted teachers. My grandmother was a public school teacher in a one-room school in Grant county KY. My sister was certified to teach in public schools in KY. I myself, was accepted to be a substitute teacher in Fairfax county public schools.
I fully understand that necessity, for an educated citizenry. I have lived in a communist dictatorship, where the literacy rate was about 12%. And I have lived in an Islamic kingdom, where being educated, meant you could recite verses from the Holy Koran.
The government monopoly of K-12 education in the USA, is coming to an end. Instead of constantly bashing the new SecEd, I believe that educators and citizens, should adapt themselves to the new realities.
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I don’t suffer fools gladly, Charles, although I have allowed you to say many foolish things on a blog dedicated to public education and to fighting privatization. Trump won’t be president forever and DeVos is a tourists. They will be gone and public education will survive them.
If you could offer any evidence for the superiority of nonpublic schools, it might help your case. I haven’t seen any.
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In what universe other that Charles’s is the National Review considered “left-center”? You need to take hallucinogenics in order to make any sense of his views of political spectrum. And no, Charles, Obama and Clinton are by any rational measure very much centrist, even arguably center-right. Even Obama’s “government takeover” of health care is based in its entirety on a far right proposal of the Heritage Foundation from the 1990s. (But I’m assuming in your world the Heritage Foundation is just another group of hippie idealists.) Our political spectrum goes from center-left to far right. We have no far left in this nation. Wish we did.
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Charles,
School choice is like unregulated health insurance. It’s fine if you are rich and don’t need health insurance at all because you plan to pay for every hospitalization and doctor with some of the millions in your bank account. It’s fine if you are healthy and insurance companies are happy to pay for whatever minor medical treatment you need.
It’s only problem if you are seriously ill or have a child with cancer. Then the health insurance companies don’t want to see you. And the choice-mongers like you, Charles remind me of the insurance company in the John Grisham novel “The Rainmaker”. They could not care any less about the children who will cost them money and if a privatized school figures out a way to push them out (or in the book, deny them treatment), well that’s just “business”.
It mystifies me that people like you lack any empathy or compassion. But then again, I guess your passion is all about “business” and making money and if so, the kids who don’t profit you are as expendable as the boy with leukemia in The Rainmaker.
Charles, if you are able to convince most Americans that only their kids matter and the rest are expendable, then your view will prevail and we can throw out those high needs kids the way we see them thrown out of charters now. If I am correct that most Americans who rejected Trump and your own notion that money trumps any kind of concern for the most vulnerable Americans, then your view will lose. I hope most Americans have more empathy and compassion for the kids you don’t care about because they don’t provide a profit to the schools that teach them. It doesn’t mean we should throw them out, even if throwing them out is good “business”.
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The attempt to end our public schools, in my opinion, exacerbates the inequalities of education that we experienced before Brown vs. Board of Education and the Civil Rights era.
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Yes! Choice is a facade for segregation.
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Thank you for considering my views, and posting what you wish. I feel it is important to consider all points of view. For the record, I have never criticized teachers. There are many fine teachers in America’s schools, who are doing a terrific job. I also have never asserted that non-public schools (and I include home-schooling), are inherently superior to government-financed public schools.
Q The only question legislatures should consider is how to fund the public schools their state constitutions require, and vouchers fund private religious entities not public schools . The public should be asked by the legislature whether the public taxes should be given to subsidize no public schools. So far, the public has always voted NO END Q
I believe sincerely, that the responsibility of state/municipal governments, which hold the responsibility for administering public schools, should do more than just provide funding. The people’s elected representatives should be providing the guidance and instructions to ensure that public schools provide a quality education for all of the children. I especially wish that states would provide additional funding for the gifted and talented children, who (generally) are not getting served properly in most public schools.
To be fair, school vouchers provide parents with the choice to send their children to the school of their choice. And, this includes public schools. Consider Indiana, the largest school voucher program in the USA. Parents have choices, but the overwhelming majority continue to choose public schools. Not all voucher-recipient families choose to redeem the vouchers at religiously-operated schools. Vouchers are also redeemed at non-sectarian private schools.
I agree, that no state referendum offering a school choice/voucher program, has ever been passed. This indicates, that in the states which have these referenda, the majority of the voters choose to decline school choice. But, it is also true, that no state which has adopted a school choice/voucher plan, has ever voted to repeal their plan. Referenda are pure democracy.
Now, the battle for school choice/vouchers is going to be presented to the states again, this time (possibly) with a federal block grant. This is going to be interesting.
“May you live in interesting times” – Chinese curse
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Charles,
You say the same thing over and over again. You have become a bore. You are the guy at the dinner table that everyone wishes would shut up or go home. Think about it.
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Reblogged this on Lifelong Quest.
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Most monopolies collapse under their own weight. This seems to be what has happened to many public schools. The competition for the funds that are available are making some schools better and that trend will continue for those public school systems that embrace this new reality.
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